>> the marriage is one thing i do protect in a way on the show. it's because my husband is a basketball player. that's where his priority lies. i would never want someone to say, oh, he's too busy filming a reality show, he's not focused on bringing the knicks a championship. when you see melo on the show, it's a treat for the audience to see him. i never wanted people to think they were getting a newlywed kind of show. you see him because he's in my life. the focus isn't on our marriage or us together. it's more about a woman juggling mom, wife, career, moving to new york and still living in l.a. and the craziness that goes on in my every day life. >> basketball wives that people say you were invited to be a part of and you declined. what was the reason for that? >> at that time i didn't feel like it fit into everything going on in my life.

the show "basketball wives," hats off to shawney o'neill. >> i'm going to try to see if everybody can get along. why are you on twitter tweeting my soon to be ex-husband. >> i have nothing against eric at all. >> i think the show is entertaining. i watch it. my friends watch it. it's fun. my show brings something different to television. but i don't think it makes one show better than the other. i don't think a person has to like one and not like the other. i think what's great about television is it's a balance. there's something for everybody in any show that you watch. >> it's funny because when people were talking about "basketball wives" in particular, they gave all the reasons why you don't want to be on the show from a personal beef to something else. i'm glad you set the record straight. >> yeah. >> how do you handle rumors constantly? how does it feel? >> it comes with the territory. it doesn't bother me. i'm so secure in who i am as a

woman that i don't let that stuff bother me. most of it is not true anyway. when you're secure, you can laugh at it and not feed into it. as long as you know my family is fine and we're happy, that's all that really matters. >> there's a million girls out there who want to be like you. what kind of advice would you get to them? >> work hard. i didn't just wake up and be in this position. it took a lot of hard work. i started as an intern with lewd krus where we were told to wash cars and get people coffee and getting treated like we weren't even there. we just consistently worked hard. you obviouslyee where it got him and you see where i'm at now. >> what's the next big thing for lala? >> if i could settle into a cool acting place, whether on a tv series or continue to do cool movies. that is my ultimate goal. the reality stuff is amazing and there's talks of another

possible season of "lala's full court life." to me, if i'm happy in my marriage and as a parent, my family life, all these other things fall into place. that's first for me. >> sounds like you're on the right path. >> thank you, thank you. >> thanks for spending time with me. >> so nice talking to you. when we come back, we take a closer look at the reality of reality tv. in the realm of reality shows, there's a lot of diversity. the great thing about reality shows, we realize we're all the great thing about reality shows, we realize we're all trashy and tawdry.

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joining me are social media socialite, i love that title, debbie smith. journalist clay cane and global entertainment editor for the associated press, alicia karls. i don't watch a lot of tv. when i turn it on is reality show, scripted shows, reality shows. when is too much? >> i think the public is going to be -- we'll determine when it's too much. right now we have this insatiable need to pry into pseudocelebrities' lives. >> i like that, pseudocelebrities. when i look on the "tv guide," most people with shows aren't famous except for the fact that they have this show. >> if you look up something like "basketball wives," it started in miami, it became a runaway hit. reality shows are cheap to produce. these are people's dramas playing out.

it's very voyeuristic. >> i spoke to lala earlier about how she rejected an appearance to be part of the show because it didn't fit her brand. she thought it was too trashy. she gave a dignified response. >> she's a perfect example that has used her reality show. she comes off in a positive light. she's on broadway and getting endorsement deals. she shows how it can be done right. >> they were already famous. i'm not talking about those people. i'm talking about people that are famous for nothing other than being on a reality show, fighting, throwing drinks on each other and talking about other folks' business. that's different from lala. >> reality shows are the new soap operas. they've helped kill soap operas. why watch "all my children" and "general hospital" when you can see "atlanta housewives?"

they're an over dramatized version of live. they or not real. they're fun to watch, "jersey shore," all trashy and tawdry and over the top. the further you take it, the bigger your brand can be. >> that's my thing. that's not a brand. >> it is a brand. >> it's a brand. >> no. a brand has staying power. a brand is procter & gamble, a brand is mcdonald's. >> or "black enterprise." >> exactly. those are not brands. those are -- >> those might be respectable brands. >> this is called "black enterprise." let's go back to the black reality star and tell me about their endorsement. >> look at nene leaks. >> she has an endorsement deal. >> she's still making money and still a brand. it's not anything that will work for the next 30 years. >> exactly. >> it's working for now.

>> one of the biggest shows, a reality show. >> why do you have this insane need to be seen. >> let me push you on that. you can say the reality stars have an insane need to be seen. aren't we all obsessed with being pseudocelebrities? >> no. i don't think so. when oprah ended her show, she said it was a platform. i use twitter about a platform for me. >> not all reality tv has to be in the gutter. >> it seems like if you're already famous, you're okay. >> reality tv is like any scripted show. if you want to watch a drama tv, reality tv is the same way. >> what does it do about representations of black people? >> this is why i can't sign off on what you guys are saying, it's okay. no, it's not okay. >> i'm not saying it's okay. the reality is if people didn't watch these shows, they wouldn't be made. the ratings are coming from

somewhere. >> i have a different opinion in the reality shows and the way it represents african-americans. what i hear black folks say is those kind of people shouldn't be on tv, those kind of black folks shouldn't be there. i always wonder what does that mean? it almost has a bit of elitist tone to it. they're too loud, too ghetto, to black. are we trying to have positive representation on reality shows? that's not really what it's for. i think it's odd when i hear that. >> i think part of@.hat people are saying is there aren't that many black shows period. we're only going to have four, do we want them to be "tanya and toy yeah," "basketball wives." >> white people can have "jersey shore" because they have the news. >> i have to challenge you. in the realm of reality shows is there's a lot of diversity. the great thing about reality shows, we all realize we're all trashy and tawdry.

>> if we're the primary audience and we know 7.7 million of us will watch the game which is a much more positive representation than "basketball wives," why are we making more shows like that? >> it's cheaper to do reality tv. >> this may not be the most intellectual thing to say, but i prefer reality tv over scripted television. i just do. it's escapism. it's fun, silly, like soap operas. >> does that mean we or obsessed with other people's business? >> it's not that. it's escapism. >> i work in a newsroom all day. you're surrounded by death, destruction and it's nice to go home and escape for a little bit. >> here is the problem. when you're watching those shows, it's very glam rouse. these women are wearing lieu bib tons, traveling the world, seemingly successful, rich husbands or boyfriends. as we know in our community, the bling, the surface flash, that's

what people are really attracted to. now we have girls in the inner city are like, they getting it, i want to get it, too. >> i understand every generation has its stuff. in the '80s, there was "cosby show," "a different world." >> when you watch those shows, you see how much we're lacking. >> now there's "basketball wives." >> in the 0s, black folks had an issue with ""the cosby show."" they felt this is not a real represent stakes of how african-americans are. to some degree when it comes to black folks and media and television, it's hard to make everybody happy. >> this goes back to my point. aren't we obsessed with other people's business. >> some people are obsessed with putting their business out there. that's the difference. >> it seems to me we all love other people's business and it's a matter of where we're going to get it from. my only hope is at some point the representation goes up and the quality of tv stops going down. >> i agree. >> thanks so much for being here. up next, an athlete

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welcome back to "our world with black enterprise." soccer is the most popular sport in the world. yet many inner city youth never get a chance to play. one woman is trying to change all that. key anna martin is our "slice of life." every time i chase the ball, every time i attempted to score,

it was -- i felt so much joy in playing. >> she started playing soccer as a child in south carolina, the only girl on a youth team. >> of course it made me a lot tougher. it forced me to be able to develop my abilities in running and keeping up with the boys. >> that toughness has helped her make her mark in pro sports. as an international athlete, a global soccer ambassador and the owner of east soccer. >> the company's mission is to introduce to underexposed communities the sport of soccer and also inspire participants of soccer and fans of the game. >> to follow her dream took great courage because martin began her career not in a soccer field, but a law firm in atlanta. >> it was a great opportunity and position with a secure paycheck sand a predictable schedule. however, my heart yearned to go towards my dream of aspiring to play soccer in the olympics. >> at the start, there was tough times, particularly in south

america. >> it was a very hard experience for me just because of so many of the preconceived notions that people all over the world have about americans. over the course of the five months, we were able to realize, oh, we're morale like than we are different. >> now she's using what she learned to open up new worlds for inner city kids. >> introducing this ball alone is going to open up their eyes to being able to exercise their creativity. build confidence and develop new friendships. it's important for me to spread and share this tool with as many youth as possible. >> that's just what she's doing, beginning with children at the martin luther king recreational center in atlanta. >> one of the greatest things that i think ms. martin has taught our children is you must be persistent in the pursuit of your goals. >> athletically speaking, soccer is the universal language. so many people play the sport, watch the sport, love the sport. for those americans, especially kids in the inner city and

adults not familiar with the spore, they're being left out of a very important dialogue. >> for the kids, the dialogue begins with the opportunity to have a good time. >> get set. go! run, run, run. >> you can work on your foot work. it's not a one-man show. you have to pass it to other people like in basketball. >> hoping to change perceptions is something kiana martin is doing as a modelor the sportswear company fila. >> i'm able to show women it's possible to pursue your dreams, to achieve great things in agent lett lettics. >> i know many of us when we pursue a dream, we start working on it and get frustrated. >> she has some advice. >> if you start taking one step, one action, it builds momentum. before you know it you're at your dreams and many times you

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