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nation." 22 days until the first presidential contest in iowa and anything goes on the campaign trail. who you're married to anythingall, the attacks are coming fast and furious on the campaign trail. >> very clear but he goes out says i'm a natural born citizen. the point is, >> dickerson: on social media. >> women's rights are human rights. >> dickerson: and on the ai would bomb the [bleep] out of them. >> carpet bomb them into oblivion. >> actually the president. >> sit down and shut up.ocratic front
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we'll check in with republican candidates rand paul and chris christie. plus, house speaker paul ryanight on the issue of poverty. one party takes group of people for granted, another party has not paid attention to them. face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs to "face we're going to get right to our lead guest, former secretary of state hillary clinton who is in chappaqua, new york, this morning. good morning, secretary clinton i want to start with politics, a lot today but start with politics the new nbc "wall street journal" poll in iowa it's 48-45. you overnce way ahead. what's happening? >> oh, john, you know these polls go up, they go down. i stay pretty focused as ihould on what we have to do to build on the progress of
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even further that's why i'vey significant agenda to raise wages and to take on the gun lobby and fobry way that i can those are some of the differences that i have with my primary opponents, certainly ll the republicans running. >> dickerson: this week another batch of e-mails were released by the state department. one of them is back and forth between you and a staffer about that won't come through. you directed him to, quote, turn into non-paper with no identifying heading and send nonsecure.ering him to violate the laws on handling >> no. not at all. as the state department saidt did not happen. it never would have happened because that's just not the way i treated classified information. headings are notn notices and so oftentimes we're trying to get the best
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obviously what i'm asking for is whatever can be it doesn't come through secure to be transmitted on the unclassified system. no, there is nothing to that like so much else that has beenbout in the last year. >> dickerson: so, in no instance -- what is striking about that particular e-mail suggests you were very -- howss you knew the instructions how to get around the restrictions for sending classified information. so you're saying there was never an in tans, any other instance >> no. and it wasn't sent. i think this is another instance where what is common practice, need information, i have points to make i was looking for secure fax that could give me the whole picture. lot of information that isn't at all classified.
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appropriately transmittedas, that's true for every agency in the government and everybody does business with the government. but the important point here is, i had great confidence because ilivan for years. he is the most meticulous, careful person you could possibly do business with. and he knew exactly what was andiate. in fact the state department has said there was no transmission of any classified information. it'seople looking for something tootle against the wall as you said in the beginning of the program to, see what sticks. but there's nothing there.ne is a little different since fbi is investigating this specific question of whether a classification was muddled with. about another e-mail which you seem ex there's surprise that somebody e-mailed on non-state department personal e-mail. which is what you were doing. why was that a surprise to you?, i e-mailed two people
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because i knew that all of that would be part of the government system. indeed the vast majority of all my e-mails are inem. that's how i conducted the business. i was very clear about e-mailing anything having to do with business to people on theirnt accounts. >> dickerson: on gun control this week, you've been pretty tough on bernie sanders, specifically on the question of legal protection to gun manufacturers. he has now said that he would beed in to changing the law to allow -- to go after gun manufacturers who actthat what you want? >> no. that's not what i want. that's not what the country wants, that's not what president obama called for. i think he has been refusing to say that he would vote to repeal this absolute immunity from any kind ofiability. it's the only industry in our
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kind of carte blanche to do whatever you want to do with noquences. you know, president obama and i and senator sanders were all in the senate at the same time. two of us voted against what the nra sat important piece of legislation in 20 years for the gun lobby. senator sanders voted with them, through this morning has beenoin the president and me in saying that this should be repealed. that has to be the effort that we all are behind.ays, well, look, i'm from vermont and it's different. it's not like being in new york city. well, in fact the other senator from vermont senator leahy voted obama and myself. i think that the excuses and efforts by senator sanders to avoid vote which the nra hailed as the most important in 0 years,
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it's a difference that democratic voters in our primary account who is going to really stand up to the gun lobby, try to deal with the scourge of gun violence that takes 90 people's lives a day. i'm pretty clear on do. and i support and will work hard to implement what the president has been advocating. >> dickerson: on senatorhis idea that he represents a state which there are lot of gun owners, you were a senator, aren't you sympathetic to that? you said you represented wall what shaped your views on certain wall street policy you suggested that as president you'd be different than did you as senator when youith a constituency. why isn't it fair for bernie sanders to say as president i would be different than i would as a senator representing a state with a lot of gun owners? >> well, you you've really mixed up two important issues here. i've been consistent on gun lobby restrictions. the brady
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against it five times. so, there is a very clear difference. and when it comes to wall street, yes, i represented i was proud to do so. and i took on wall street, i'm the person who came out against derivatives, i'm the person who came out calling for ceo pay which thankfully got into the dodd frank bill. i'm the person who went to wall street actually confronted them in 2007, i called them out on playing in the mortgage market. i do have a history of taking on what i consider to be the abusesany industry, including wall street. and i will continue to do so as president and the proposal that i've put forth about how weign in to face what we did in 2008 has been judged as being more comprehensive. tougher, more effective by barney ohio who
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senate and by paul krugman i have plan that will go after not just the big banks because dodd the tools to do a lot of that. but to go after the so-called shadow bank can industry. i think i'm well prepared, i know what needs to be done, like china, john. >> dickerson: let me ask you about a general election opponent you may face that is donald trump you got into a pretty ugly exchange you charged that sexism then he put out instagram video of your husband and monica lewinsky, your reaction to that? >> well, if he wants tosonal attacks from the past, that's his prerogative. so be it. i'm going to draw the i stand and where he stands when it comes to equal pay for women. raising the minimum wage which affects two-thirds of the women who are the ones receiving the wage. protecting a woman's right to make the most personal healthcare decisions, that's why
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endorsement of the plannedund that i received today in new hampshire, because i'm going to fight as hard as i can against any efforts to defund planned he supports. there are very clear distinctions, he can say whatever he wants to about me. let the voters judge that. i am not going to let him or any of the other away the progress that women have made, it's been too hard fought for and i'm going to stand up and make it clear there's a huge difference between us.sect clinton what do you say to those in your own party who say that is discussion that have portion of your husband's career is fair game to talk about in an election. >>air game going back to the republicans for some years. they can do it again if they want to. that can be their choice as to how to run in this campaign. it won't work again. because it is what people are focused on not for the past but for the future.o do to get wages rising. what are we going to do to
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what are we going to do to make sure that the supreme court has people on it who wills rights. who will defend marriage equality. who will defend voters rights. so, i can't run anybody else'say whatever they want, more power to them. i think it's a dead end, blind alley for them, let them go. i'm going to talk about thecause i think that's what americans compare about. >> dickerson: i'm going -- we're add dead end ourselves thanks fob being with us. >> thanks, let's continue the >> dickerson: see you out there. we caught up with republican presidential candidate chris christie jed in columbia, south carolina. wen with president obama's use of executive action to expand background checks. why isn't this leadership? he's using every possi can to get what he wants. you've talked a lot about leadership. >> dictatorship is not leadership. he's act can like a dictator andld.
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with it all. huge majority in the house. filibuster proof majority in the senate.ublicans had 21 governors. since that time 31 republican governors big majority in the house, majority in the senate, his policies have been rejected by the american people but heo hear that. >> dickerson: gun control question, donald trump has suggested getting rid of gun free zones in schools and military bases would you agree think for the military, i've said this before for attacks earlier in tennessee. that it seems ridiculous thatarry a weapon with them. they're trained to do it. the best trained people. i would certainly be in favor of our military folks being able to carry weapons in those on the gun free school zones they should be able to look on its own. >> dickerson: your record on assault weapons. you said that originally you wanted to keep an assault weapons ban,
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it. ine still supporter of the assault weapons ban that was after you'd been a prosecutor. >> what i said at the time that i was not interested in debating or changing because i knew iersey's gun laws for democratic legislature. of if i had my choice apply much more easily and received muchermit in our state. we should be a state to defend themselves. you're in that race with john in 2009, he said christie stands with the nra your pam campaign put out fact check called that a lie. said this, chris christie supports assault weapons ban and all current gun laws. he opposes attempts to permitaws in new jersey. hardly the nra position. that seems different. >> it is. again, john, you learn about these things over time. i learned about this over tomb.ersey i have grown up in
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very vigorous anti-gun laws. i travel the country as arned great deal about this. my actions as governor of new jersey had been exactly where i think they need to be. theselic safety, i'm for public safety if the laws are going to make legislative and governors feel better they shouldn't be put in place and infringemed rights it's revolution over time, absolutely. >> dickerson: would you say you stand with the nra? >> i stand with anybody who believes in protecting the second amendment andblic safety whether it's the nra or other organizations like new jersey pistol club or others i stand with organizations who want to make sense between and our second amendment rights. >> dickerson: just going back to that, you stand with the nra? >> well, the fact is, that if the nra but onake them down issue by issue i'll be
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i'm not going to say i stand with any particular with a blankt leadership is. >> dickerson: you are -- is ted cruz legally eligible to be president in your view? >> it appears to me he is. gave speech this week saying that you understand voters are angry, but that it's time for them to pickhey shouldn't just pick somebody out of anger. >> that's not what i said. i said anger alone is not solution to our nation's problems. we have to channel thatting ahere we pick someone who can actually fix the problems that are making us angry. and so part of the speech was calling our republican party tos and to stop emphasizing our differences. that we need to bring ourselves together in order to beat hillary clinton. every time we dividet easier for her to defeat our nominee. >> dickerson: show time is over but you put on pretty good show. >> game time is on now.
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show time is a time where everybody gets to judge you and look and your prancing around the stage. now it's game time. >> dhas gotten tougher between you and some of your rivals. you said marco rubio trying to slime his way to the whiteer pac running ad said, that you supported common core you once supported assault weapons ban that you donated to planned parenthood.s wrong? >> i never donated to planned parenthood that's wrong. secondly, for him to be trying to characterize myrecord in that way is contrary to what marco said. marco himself has said that i was conservative reformer in new jersey. here is the thing, i'm not going toking about marco rubio. if marco wants to think that this is guy who stood up, one told you that by criticizing me it helps you.
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i'm not going to fall for. that you saw my response to marco. i about him, fact is focus on defeating hillary clinton. i'm happy to stand by my record of having made decisions.just on planned parenthood never donated or supported. >> no. j governor christie, thanks very much. >> thanks, john.tion. marco rubio has said chris kiss tee donated to planned parenthood but not part of the super pac's ad. we'll be back in one minute withryan. you. right down to your skin. aveeno daily moisturizing lotion with 5 vital nutrients ing skin in just one day. aveeno .
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respect the second amendment and gub ownership. then you said, quote, he had never respected that right so do you think he's not telling thenk he'd like to go whole lot farther than he is going right now. point number two, there isn't au are in the business of buying and selling firearms license. if you have a federal firearms license you have to do background checks. so, i think this is basicallylooking for an issue to exploit in some ways because these so-called solutions that he's talking about they would not have stopped any of these shootings.u think he respects the second amendment? >> , no i actually don't. i think he would like to go much fur that you are than what the second amountment allows. >> dickerson: you want an alternative to the president, one of the first things did you this year was offer that repeal. how is that an alternative? >> it's not.o come up with an alternative. you're right about that.
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>> i don't know how far it willhat we have filibuster and guy named obama. but my goal is that we as republicans if we don't like the direction the country is going, i think we have to be more than just opposition party. we have to be a propositionn't like this we ha to have show how we'll do things differently. we think obama fair is failing, whether it's premiums, restricted access, higher losing insurance that they want and keep that's happening all across the country. people are hurting and we need to offer a solution. yes, yes, this and many other alternatives. >> dickerson: you want to help define republican party -- >> there's going to be nominee the one who kind of is the face of the republican party? fall. we don't have time to wait until the fall. 2012 with milt myth romney if you wait until late summer roll out what you believe in what your agenda is
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one of the reasons we did this poverty summit today here in columbia, south carolina, is we want to showcase our principles, our ideas, we want to show better ideas for getting people out of poverty, root causes of poverty for getting ica. >> dickerson: also night i was at a donald trump rally in rock hill, south carolina, there were 7,000 people. the crowd reaction was very loud on the follo donald trump's opposition to the asian trade deal which you support. his opposition to last year's budget at the end of the year budget which you support. his opposition to undocumented any pathway to legal status or citizenship. and also to any tinkering with entitlement. crowd didn't just clap how does republican party get together when you have set of ideas that are totally opposite to those people.
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what we believe, where we want to lead. and let the people decide. that's the way i see this thing. i really think the country is in a bad path, a dangerous we can lose what so unique about our country. this american idea, the condition of your birth doesn't determine the outcome of your growth and prosperity and security. all those things are in real deep jeopardy. so, do i agree or disagree with various candidates on various do. we're individuals. but can we offer the country a really clear and compelling choice, it's not divisive but inclusive,rational, that's pro growth. i think we can do that. >> dickerson: does the campaign makes it harder? >> this is primary season. what's happen can right now distinguish themselves from the same party, from over same voters. primaries inevitably have thision, once you get to the primary i think we unify conservative movement.
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we go out and we try to winry to get the country a clear choice. >> dickerson: will you support donald trump if he -- >> of course i will. dickerson: and ted cruz if he's the nominee? carolina to deal with poverty and opportunity. there was time in is the 67 the ghettos.k kemp in 1996 when he went to all these hard hit neighborhoods. why doesn't ha happen in campaigns any more? >> i've been doing it the last campaigns. >> it's really good question. i think we need to do that. it's a mistake that's been made. i think that's exactly right. we have got to go and compete and hearts and votes of everybody in this country no matter who they are. and what i think we've had one party takes group of people forher party has not paid attention to them. that's exactly why we're having this summit here, hosted by the
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who taught me this about upper, fighting poverty and restoring opportunity, so, yes, i think our presidential candidates need to do this. one thing i haven't done like i wanted to in 2012.the appreciate thursday kept from you doing it in 2012 do they still exist? >> yes, resist that pressure. typically what the consultants tell you, this is where our voters are, this is the counties that we have to there. then go there. you go there. you go there. this is national election. election are highest in our generation. and everybody needs to be involved in this election, we need to go and compete for thehe votes of everybody no matter if we get 2% of the vote, we should be there showing that our ideas are better.have more on our conversation with the speaker in our next half hour. when down a point, you serve an ace 5.8 times more than other top players. you sound like a coach.
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