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day on "face the nation," we're in greenville, south carolina. morning after what turned into a very raucous republican debate. >> let me just tell you this, jeb is so wrong. jeb is absolutely so wrong. >> great negotiator in -- this is a man who -- >> it was political slug fest at some point. you lie? >> donald adults learn not to interrupt. >> i know. >> the lines are very, very clear.w supports citizenship for 12 million people here illegally. >> for number of weeks now ted
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marriage. he's lying about -- now he makes things up. >> dickerson: as six remaining south carolina primary. >> i got to tell you this is just crazy. this is just nuts.ar from two of those candidates donald trump and marco rubio about the debate and the political fall out calling the death of supreme court conservative antoninrday at the age of 79. then we'll check win bernie sanders on the latest development in the democratic brand new cbs battleground tracker poll numbers and plenty of analysis. all ahead on "face the nation." nsored by cbs good mornings, welcome to "face the nation" from the center here in greenville, south carolina. at last night's republican debate was anything butthe reputation for brass knuckle candidates they took their brawling primary on to the stage.
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offensive attackingar in iraq. >> obviously the war in iraq is a big, fat mistake george bush made a mistake.. but that one was a beauty. we should have never been in iraq. we have destabilized the middle east.l think he should be impeached. >> do whatever you want you call it whatever you want i want to tell you they lied. they said there were weapons of mass destruction. there were none. none. there were no weapons of mass destruction. >> dickerson: okay. all right. >> i am sick and tired of him going after myile donald trump is building a reality tv show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. i'm proud of what he did. the gal to go -- >> world trade center came down during your brother's dash. >> dickerson: our cbs battleground tracker shows donald trump with a big leadweek before
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carolina. 4%. ted cruz follows at 20%. marco rubio is at 15.rest of the field john kasich has 9% support. jeb bush and ben carson are tied at 6. poll was conducted before last night's debate. we satump last night immediately after the debate asked him how it looked from his end. >> it was interesting. i mean, they were shooting at meing by a lot i found it to be an amazing evening, i thought it was fascinating, actually. i actually liked it as they say, i one many of the debate this my best performance. interesting thing as i was being hit from the sides, here, there, but i think it was probably my best performance. seems, though, in some of the things in your campaign moderated you seem to recognize the fact that people might be turned off by constant i do. i went to ivy league school, i
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i can be so politically correct you would be bored to tears, john. but ihat but at the same time when somebody comes at you with lies, lot of lies out there, when you look at what cruz did in iowa with theif you saw it voter violation, made up the fraudulent -- came to a government demanding that people go out and vote for cruz. when you look at what he did to ben carson.to be called out. these are dishonest people. >> dickerson: you mentioned that the world trade center came down during george w. bush's watch. are you blaming him for --him. the cia and other groups, the cia said there was lot of information that something like that was going to happen. not blaming anybody. horrible. worst in our country's history, worse than pearl harbor, talking about civilians not military.illeda horror show. now, could he have done something about it?
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happening, you could have said, his brother. his brother got us into the war in iraq which is one of the worst catastrophes ever.struction. the world trade center came down during his reign. you cannot say we were safe happen. >> dickerson: when you say that he lied as you did, weapons weren't there --ns of mass destruction. >> dickerson: this is the democratic partyline. >> look. i'm a businessman, i built ai'm funding my campaign, people in the audience most were special interests, it was all these people which is really not appropriate. but the people in the audience were lobbyists and special interest people. i don't have any of those people because i'm putting up my owne truth. there were no weapons of mass destruction.
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saying he went in there, here weapons of mass destruction, maybe or maybe he didn't, okay? but he thought -- there weren't. i'm telling the truth. >> d that's -- >> but 23 he knew there weren't weapons of mass destruction and he used that as an excuse to go in and try to make up for some sins for previous years, then it would be a lie.ink -- maybe that's true, maybe it isn't >> dickerson: impeached. you wouldn't own that any more. you would want -- in 2008 you thought they were --mething. the war in iraq is a disaster. it started the chain of events that leads now to the migration, maybe the destruction of europe.ar in iraq, am i supposed to be a big fan? i'm a republican, i'm a conservative, but the truth is, the war in iraq. we spent $2 trillion on that war. we lost thousands of lives.
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over the place.e started. would have been so much better off. if you had saddam hussein who is bading terrorists, now, if you want to become a tourist you go to iraq that's like the harvard of terrorism, okay? so, look, it was not a great job. people can say he'st know why he's popular also have economic collapse at the end of his term. that economic collapse gave us barack obama, without thatave had barack obama. >> dickerson: let me ask you about politics, now. you had a tough ad hitting senator cruz saying he couldn'td it down, but i just watched it on tv. >> no, i pulled it down because i wanted to be nice, i wanted to be a very nice person. do negative ad, i put it back up. it's honorable ad, he's a nasty guy. people don't like him. think of it, united statese a lot of friends that are in the senate, in this case he doesn't have any friends. doesn't have one endorsement from one u.s. senator these are
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how can that be possible? >> questioned his christianity. is that a christian thing to do? >> i say. the bible. okay? what he did to ben carson was a disgrace. what he did with the voter violation, which is a fraud. is a disgrace. you can't do that, you can't hold up all of and hold up the bible and then lie. >> dickerson: speaking of holding up the bible you promised not to use profanitye always done it just as way of emphasis and had fun doing it. running politics we can't do it. i get standing ovations the other night, i got standing lot of times i don't use -- i didn't use the word. i explained that tonight, i hope. >> dickerson: you used a few other words. >> not big deal. you know, jeb bush goes on, he to rip down his pants and moon everybody on the street. moon everybody. nobody writes about it. it's in couple of papers butit.
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going to rip down his pants and moon everybody? this is a presidential candidate. >> dickerson: seems like race to the bottom to me. >> it's terrible. i think it's terrible. it he did. >> dickerson: he won new hampshire. give me your sense of the campaign right now? >> i think we're doing great. i just don't people to do robo calls like aneal with manhattan real estate. these people are babies compared to the politics. robo calls put out.lot as you know. robo calls put out by we think cruz it was one of his top people. saying donald trump is not going to be vote for ted cruz. that's a fraud. what i have is because i have a little bit of microphone out i have is i'm able to explain to people that it's a lie. a lot of people couldn't do it. ben carson wasn't able to do that, they hit him very quickly. of votes. >> dickerson: your tax returns, when are you going to see them? >> we're working on it very
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they will be very good. after the nominations. >> i'm the first one to put my financial statement out. i put out financial statement with no extensions, with no one the world's most complicated tax returns, it's a massive return. but i will get it done as soon as i can. remember this, when i did myuch more important, when i did my financials everybody thought it would take a year to put them out. i put them out in 30 days everybody was very impressed with them.y that you raised what is the status that have? >> giving away a lot of it. much is given away. >> dickerson: how much? >> i don't know. i can tell you -- i don't know.the people that made it directly to the veterans groups. but much of it is -- millions have been given out already i'm very proud of it.um, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> cbs news conducted overnight poll of what republicans and independents to gauge their reaction to the debate.arco rubio was the winner with 32%. donald trump was in second with 24%.
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19%uz behind him at 12%. ben carson at 8%. jeb bush at 5. joining us this morning is winner that have debate at least according to our poll. marco rubio, what was it like on the stage for you? seemed raucous. >> it was interesting debate. i think it's the smallest stage ith six people. more time for everyone to speak, it happened on the night that justice scalia left us and passed away i thought that addedess to the beginning of the debate. then get into some of the differences. when donald and jeb going at it a little bit, jeb and donald and as well it was a little different from the other debates i think. the crowd was pretty involved, too. >> dickerson: you called senator cruz a liar. >> well, he's lying. last couple weeks he has really exhibited this very troubling tendency to say things that aren't true, just making things up.
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truth about my position about sank could you ware cities. lied about my position on parenthood. he's not being honest about previous position on immigration. he tried to portray as some sort of purist his record isnt. these things are being exposed now. it's really a troubling trend. >> dickerson: what do you think that means in terms of the presidency, though? >> i think it means someone is willing to say or do anything to win an if it's not true. i think it's going to trouble people deeply. we all want to win but you can't just make things up.mpaign that's willing to do things like what he did to ben carson in iowa, what he apparently is doing here now according toobo calls, i don't know. but donald mentioned that. i think it seeks to how you conduct yourself especially in highns. i think it's very troubling. i hope he'll stop doing it. >> dickerson: you are here in the debate and chris christie wasn't you had quite an exchange fact that you survived he didn't, what
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>> ultimately debate wasn't the reason why chris is not in the race now, he'll have to answerke chris christie i think he has a future in public service i don't think we've heard the last of his service, it was veryother year chris christie would be front runner but we had all these people running, just worked out the way it did. i wish him the best.you think of john kasich's point that the bickering is going to help >> ultimately. they had pretty intense debate sanders as well let's not forget that barack obama and hillary clinton said horrible things about each other he ended up winning she him. but i would prefer the debates be all about policy. if you watch i never launched these attacks. if i'm attacked i need to respond that was mistake a made a week ago when i didn't.responded about chris' record. you get pummeled for that. i don't like it. but unfortunately 134 times youe people are saying things that just aren't true.
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replacement to justice scalia, what is going to happen there, do you think? the president said he's going to >> he can nominate someone. the senate is not moving forward on it until after the election. majority leader already made that clear i agree with that. established over 08 years in the last year, especially in the last 11 months you do not have lame duck president make the highest court in the land. we'll have election in november. this vacancy will be an issue, voters will get to weigh in then choose a new president then thatich i expect will be me, will then be able to nominate someone and work with the senate to confirm. >> dickerson: don't the voters weigh in when they pick the president in the first place his the last day if there were emergency. >> this is lifetime appointment. not a law you can reverse, this is not a policy you can undo. be there until they die or leave. that is a very serious thing. so, the president can decide whatever he wants but i'm just telling you the senate is notard.
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president would you have ha last year moratorium. >> i would understand, yeah. in fact not just for the supreme court there's practice that in the last eight months of thene you stop doing appellate courts as well. i would respect that practice. >> dickerson: if you had -- if you were pad you had nominee tore be a litmus test? i god governor bush, conservestives have said justices who are conservative --ews on thish auto us it's very simple. does the justice that we're nominating have consistent and proven record of constitution as initially meant. what does society that wrote those words -- what do those words mean to that society at the time in which those wordsthe constitution. that's what i want to have out of justice that looks at legislation says, what was the meaning mind this legislationy congress. if you don't like the meaning, then there's a practice,
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to change the constitutionives you a process for changing the constitution. i'm looking for people that are going to look at the constitution and apply it and interpret it based on the original meaning of the words in that document.talk about politics a little bit. you did well in iowa, less well in new hampshire. how well do you have to do in south carolina and when you havein the win column? >> going to get into the weeds here on politics early on. in these early states it's all you look what happens in new hampshire, i finished in fifth but same number of delegates as person who finished in fourth and third. same in iowa. only one less who finished in first. in these proportional states we just want to continue to pick up delegates and do consistently well. once we get into the win or take become much higher. for us i think it's continuing states. get ourselves in the strong delegate position then really give ourselves the opportunity
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>> dickerson: is it a one-two process, in other words, basically best governor bush and kasich to be alternative then >> except if you look at it one of the reason why i'm the candidate that gets attacked by everyone in this race, i've been attacked by ted cruz, attacked by chris christie,b bush, i get attacked by everybody. because i believe our message one that appeals to voters across the republican party. so, i think that's whyly one left in this race that can bring this party together quickly and then grow the conservative movement. i've never viewed myself in one on one competition with anyone on that debate stage last message that i believe appeals to voters supporting everyone. >> dickerson: senator marco
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antonin scalia died at the age of 79. a key conservative on the court his death has already had an impact on the presidential campaign. to jon crawford outside the supreme court in washington. jan? >> news of scalia's death sentof this larger than life figure here at the courts and in the law, regardless of your ideology, i think it is almost hard to justices return to the bench next week the empty seat will be scalia's. >> the remedy for a case is always subject to the court's discretion.ds upon the realities on the ground. >> reporter: he was a giant in the law. nominated by president reagan, justice scalia shaped theal movement with his sharp intellect and his clear colorful writing. like his dissent calling the court's decision upholdinge sauce. one of his most significant
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second amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. he told ""60y anything else. >> when i first came on the court, i thought i wouldoon as i could, which would have been when i turned 65. because, you know, justices retire at full salary.reason not to leave and go off and do something else. i cannot think of what i would do for an encore, i can't think of any other job that i wouldresting and as satisfying. >> reporter: but almost immediately after the news of his death broke the fight began over his successor the supreme court now is divided 4-4.s already are vowing to block whoever the president sends up. john? court? >> reporter: i think that is a
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will not have a ninth justice on the supreme court for thee that means that the lower court decision all of these controversial cases that the justices will be hearing this term, that decision will remain. so, we are going to haveis term on affirmative action, 'boring, the future of obamacare, on labor unions, it is a docket chalk full of controversy. decision stand. it means that all the controversy some ways that we expect here at the court now will be shifted across is thefight will be in congress. >> dickerson: all right, jan crawford, thanks so much. we'll be right back with senator bernie sanders. we built our factories here because of a huge natural resource. not the land. the water. or power sources. it' s the people.
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our cbs news battleground tracker shows hillary clinton with a wide lead here sanders at 59% to 40%. senator sanders joins us now from denver, colorado. senator, you hear you have quite a bit of work to do here in soutou expect to close the gap between you and secretary clinton? >> well, we have thousands ofrolina. we're to knock wrong doors, making phone calls, if you look at that poll, john, what you'll see is that we have already made up a significante gap used to be much larger, momentum is with us we're going to do quite well in south carolina and by the way we are doing very, very well in nevada as well.on: you have a large share if you look inside of the polls you have a large share where voters but having difficulty within african american ctrying to address that. talk about what you've been trying to do and if you've been able to make any progress with
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>> well, i think we have. we started off way, way behind with the african american community. we have closed that gap, still have a long way to go. we have brought on're doing fantastic job for us of people like ben gellous former head of the naacp we have state senator from ohio who has been out there. keith ellison the cochairman of the u.s. house we have just great surrogates out there. we are going to speaking inties in the next week and i think you're going to see a lot of momentum for us. >> we have just a minute left, i ur path when you look at going forward to states after south carolina, where should those who support you be looking for you
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>> well, you know, i think sed a lot of people in iowa. john, as you may recall, we started off 40 or 50 pointsinly surprised people in new hampshire. and i think we're going to continue to surprise people. right now speaking to you from denver, colorado. last night we had a to 0,000 people out at that rally i think we're going to do very well here in colorado. i think we're going to do well in minnesota. to see us doing far better across the board. >> dickerson: all right, senator hold it right there. from you in a moment. we'll take this quick break. your path to retirement... may not always be clear. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings.
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