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y en"face the nation," donald trump rolls on after the showdown in south carolina. and hillary clinton rebounds to score a win in nevada. >> thank you, nevada.on manages to hold off the late challenge from bernie sanders in the silver state as her battle moves forward. >> some may have doubted us butd each other. >> dickerson: the republican
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to big win let's go. let's have a big win in nevada. let's have a big win. let's put this thing away.l tie for second place between marco rubio and ted cruz and loss for jeb bush. >> the people of iowa and newsouth carolina have spoken i respect their decision. tonight i am suspending my campaign. >> dickerson: we'll talk to the top three finishers in southanders and john kasich all coming up on captioning sponsored by cbs." good morning welcome to face the make i'm john dickerson. it was a night for the front runners with hillary clinton finishing ahead of bernie sanders in nevada by six-pointrump came up with a big win in south carolina. where he finished with% of theand ted cruz battled it another for second separated by just a thousand votes. jeb bush pin finished a distant fourth and ended his campaign we have four
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first to donald trump who joins us from west palm beach. mr. trump, is it now your nomination to lose? so. look, i'm dealing with very, very talented people, smart people, good people. competing, i had great victory yesterday in south carolina. it was amazing. new hampshire was amazing. the size of the victories iedible. yesterday i won every delegate. i won all seven congressional districts on top of having a big margin. that was a great victory.e off to nevada, off to atlanta. then i go to nevada where i'll be for a couple of days i have lot of property out there, lot of great i think i should do well in nevada. >> dickerson: if you get the nomination you'd be shocked? >> well, i wouldn't be shocked. look again i'm competing againstal politicians,
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ben carson is still in he's a terrific guy and a talented guy. a lot of really good people. i don't want to say it's mine. certainly i'm leading, there's no question about that. we've got long way to go.rco rubio said now that the campaign is in this phase you have to be more specific about your foreign policy vision and knowledge. >> well, i knowledge of foreign policy, frankly. despite what some people said i was always against the war in iraq, lot of people weren't.n this bandwagon recently because it was a disaster. i had great knowledge of military and i think i haver syria than lot of so-called great military geniuses saying to fight the war with syria. and my opinion they're doing just the start world war three over syria be there for the next 40 years. we've whether b there for 15 years in the middle east much
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maybe more than that. it's time to do something aboute to also knock isis out. you have to knock isis out. >> dickerson: let me ask you about your position on the iraq referred to that a lot. everybody has gone through the things you said. seems like a lot more muted your opposition to the war, everybodyething it's pretty clear what you mean. on iraq it was a little bit more muddled than you've been making it seem. >> well, john, you have tosn't a politics, i hadn't even thought of being a politics, nobody every talked to me about the war. not like now where every daystions about things. i spoke with howard stern who is a friend of mine on his show. and this was many months before, he was talkingdon't know, i was thinking about it. i didn't even think about it. when the war start, actually joe scarborough called yesterday andut where basically is on my side, that
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the fact it was very early on. he interviewed me years ago at that was just put out yesterday evening i thank joe for that. look, i was against it. i was against it very early. have been in there. i think it is probably perhaps the worst mistake we've ever made. first of all, they didn't knockenter it wasn't iraq, it was other people. without mentioning names, it was other people. some day open the report and find out.e that knocked down the world trade center. so, no reason to go into a big thing now. it was a horrible mistake that unfortunatelyer have done we lost trillions of dollars, thousands of lives, wounded warriors who are all over the place and here is the other part. offeree a. they wanted it for decades and decades. they're taking it over. as you sit there and as i sit here, they are going in takinghey can do whatever they want they are
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>> dickerson: last week when the pope made his remark about your, no leader especially religious should have right to question another man easy ridge on or faith. just last week you questioned ted cruise'sveral time in the course of the campaign might have helped you win south carolina. why is it okay for you not okay for the pope? >> , no i never questioned ted'snything having to do with his religion. i just said you can't lie and hold up a bible. you can't do that. just can't do that it's not appropriate. him. because things were said abut me that were not true and marco rubio said that he lied, i've never seen a politician say toian that he lied. i guess it happens. but what marco actually gave me cover because he actually said the same thing, he said it he was lying. i just said you can't say things which are lies and claimcan't do it.
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i'm not questioning his christianity i think it's inappropriate to hold up the bible and lie.hink the pope actually may have helped you in south carolina? >> i'm asked that question so much. of shock because i've never seen the pope talk about something as unimportant as donald trump. i was like, the pope is talking about man't be happening, is it good or bad? they said it's bad. this was day before the election. i asked the pope is saying bad thing about me the day before the i gathered myself and i realized that it had to do with illegal immigration. that he was opposed to my measures which is basically and i came out very strongly that we want a border and the mexican government probably convinced him that donald trump was saying not nice things about the border. worked out well. i don't think it was a positive, though. i think it was probably neutral.
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but could have been a tremendousturned out to be probably mutual. i don't think it was -- the pope is very nice, by the way. yesterday the pope issued a very nice statement and i appreciated it.'ll have to leave it there, mr. trump. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you very much. dickerson: we go now to nashville and senator marco rubio.ou're saying that it's now a three-man race. that means to get to the nomination you have to get past donald trump. is that just going to happen or do you have to make that happen? make that happen. but part of the dynamic up to this point is donald has been in the mid 30s to low 30s high 20s in most polls then 70re not voting for him. but they're divided up. that five or seven people continues to narrow down going to make the race clearer andtill have the then vote. there are people supporting donald trump that we believe we can win over as well. so it is a smaller race than it was last night.cally speaking it
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still running full scale national campaign. i have tremendous respect forow he's going to stay in the race and john kasich is out there basically going to spend week in michigan make that his priority. in three states and continue to come pain everywhere. we feel really good about this coalescing. of course anyone wants to join our effort they should go to our website. we need your help. >> dickerson: how are you going to take those voters away from donald trump. what is your argument? hall thanks we face. i've seen it up close in 2010 i ago. i've only been there five years but it's been enough time toamage barack obama has done to this country. i'm realistic, and optimistic about our future. history. i think that is important. if i running to be president of the united states can't just telle
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need to begin exactly how you're going to do it policy wise. we're not going to win the general election with candidate that refuses to detail policy.donald still has time then we can have policy debate about whose ideas are better. i honestly believe that once people begin to understand what's at stake here that we just to make our country great but greater than it's ever been. we have plan to do it. i that i is going to influence a lot of voters not to mention coalesceith someone else first. >> dickerson: you want mr. trump to be more specific, offer more policies, people have been asking abut that for him fore polls show that voters seem to be flocking to him because he's the stronger candidate on issues of national security. are people wrong about thatvince them they're not right to be for trump because he's stronger? >> well, i think strong rhetoric and strong action are two separate things. anyone can use toughan go over the top say things that sound strong. but sounding strong is not enough.
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you're going to do it. the policies he's talked about, they would not make america stronger. his views on vladimir putin arenk he's fundamentally understands who he is or what he's trying to do. these are the kinds of things that i think in detail need towhen you're the commander in chief you're the commander in chief on day one. you don't get like six-month grace period. the world doesn't just stop, let's wait until the president start challenging america. you got to know what you're doing on your very first day there. this is not an attack orure, just very sim pep observation, if you want to be pad you have to start detailing some specific public policy and i don't think fromthe campaign voters will be as tolerant of the lack of that as they have been up to now.u expect to see specific policy on? >> on everything. on health care. we all to
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i.t. going to be replaced with. again, on issues of energy. how are we going to ut resources, what is the role of federal government in higher education. what kind of justices would you appoint to the supreme court not vacancy now but at least one or two potentially in the next four to eight years. virtually every major issue that is before this country that isr view of the federal government, have some specificity of what you're going to do if you want to be president. up to this point it hasn't beent will be. let me say this, the democrats, if we dominate someone who is neb would you husband about these things they're going tober. we have to at this timely have someone ready to go that can win because we cannot lose this election. they cannot be the next >> dickerson: last question on politics. three contests, you have yet to win one. is there a daneer that everybody's second choice? >> no, i don't think so. earlier when you have seven or eight people competing for the same
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votes. but if you have s all segmented. now that the race begins to narrow you have clear indication. as we look at this race we understood that this narrowing had to happen before the winner will begin in the middle of march. we feel good about the states we're going into and process to win delegates. got to keep working hard. >> dickerson: thanks for being with us, senator marco rubio. >> thank you. next up from columbia, south carolinas texas senator ted cruz. you said last night your campaign was defying expectations in south carolina.ctation that you should have done better in south carolina given that large share of conservatives in the state and very large share of those who self identified asl christians? >> you know, john, if you look at the first three primaries we started in iowa where all of the media said we didn't have ain. we won overwhelming victory in iowa with a big margin.
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the media said a conservative moderate new england state. we won very strong third place finish in new hampshire. then we went to south carolina. where a week ago donald trumppoint dominating lead, ended up closing that gap tremendously and finishing with effectively tied for second place. and that combination, what thatace is at this point we've seen the race, the field narrow dramatically and from is only one strong conservative who has a path to having the affect of unifying conservatives nationally and keying us up for nevada especially super tuesday, our plan, do well in the first three states then compete and have very strong night. we're ideally positioned to do exactly that. the case that you're the only candidate who can unite the diverse parts of the conservative coalition but when you look inside the exit polls, you do very well with those who identify as
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have trouble in the other areas. how are you going to solve that problem? >> one of the very encouraging things we saw in the exit polls we were in first place among young people in south carolina. it's interesting because we also won young people in iowa and we took second among young people in newou can stitch together that kind of coalition with young people bringing together conservatives and evangelicals and i'll tell you in iowa we also won reagan democrats,ters. as you know, john, historically in order to have chance to win the nomination you have to wintates. there are only two people that have done that. donald trump and me. and one of the things we're seeing is across the cou of republicans who think donald trump is not the right guy to go head to head with hillary clinton, that we probably lose that match up. about 70% ofe that. we're seeing people come together behind our campaign
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that has beaten donald trump andrump. you can't beat donald trump from the left. you can't beat donald with a candidate who is supported amnesty. donald wins that head to head. head to headn beat donald trump by 16 points and so what we're seeing, john, is incredible. people all over the country are going tor 980,000 contribution we want a strong conservative. we want someone who can beat hillary and i beat hillary and donald shows doesn't. >> dickerson: let me ask you a question abut evangelical voters in north carolina, they went for donald trump over you. do you think that he he christianity during the course of the south carolina campaign? >> there's no doubt that both donald and marco got very personal, got very of them when you point to their records, they follow the same pattern, they scream liar, liar, they attack youru know from the
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nearly a year now, i have in kind. their character. in fact i will happily praise both donald trump and marco rubio as men who i people i'm not going to go personal with them. but i do think we should be focused on substance and record. if you want a candidate who who opposes citizenship for the 12 million people here illegal loo i'm the only candidate who opposes that. if you want candidate who is ledt obamacare, who will lift the burdens on small businesses and bring back jobs, i'm the only candidate in the race with that proven candidate to defend life and marriage and religious liberty and second amendment and constitutionalists to the court. that's why conservatives are uniting behind our campaign. if they want to continue with the attacks that's their
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i think that that the voters want and what they deserve. >> dickerson: the question ofng a wall, you want the same thing. but he's had a lot of experience in the business world executing, gettings things done in the bu to a voter who said, okay, you may share the same goals with donald trump on this, but you lack that experience of having executed the way he has in the >> well, listen, i have joked more than once on the campaign trail that i'm going to build a wall. and i have somebody in mind to build it.t that if you want to building contract or donald would be a strong contender for that. the question we have here is whohis issue. back in 2013 when we were having the epic battle on amnesty, when marco rubio joined up with barack obamad to push amnesty i led the fight against it standing shoulder to shoulder with jeff sessions and steve king and millions ofp was no
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he was tweeting support for amnesty just couple of years ago even now if you ask donald he wants to give citizenship to thee here illegally. he wants to deport them let them come right back in. if you're a hard working steel worker or truck driver, that wages, that takes away your jobs. i think we need to be fighting for the working member and women of the country not the money of new york interest.'ll have to leave it there. we'll be back in a minute. you can't predict... the market. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions... confident... ...in our experience. call a t. rowe price
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number of those states. we think we have a whole lot of -- we lost yesterday in nevada by five points. a month ago we were 5 points. if you look at the national polls, those are tightening up, some cases we're ahead nationally. i think people around thisg to our message of a corrupt campaign, finance system and broken criminal justice system. good. >> dickerson: how should people judge the sanders' campaign as you said you've come a long way, your message has influenced hillary clinton a great deal. but shouldhere are some big wins for bernie sanders or should they say, this is a message campaign and let the he contest. >> no, this is not a message campaign. we're in this race to win. i think on super tuesday, forsee major victories, john, as you know, most people know, that these are
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elections are that means that it's not winner take all. hillary clinton and nevada got 19 delegates we got 15 delegates we need 2400 to win. it's a state byess. we are going to win some big states i think on super tuesday. >> dickerson: in the cbs poll nevada caucus, 90% said theyclinton had the right experience to be president. only about 10% said you had the right experience. how do you change that feeling? >>hink remember when we started this campaign, hillary clinton is almost universally known. she was a first lady, she wase was a senator. i am a senator from the very small state and great state of vermont. not a lot of people know me or my 25 years in congress, eight years as mayor of the city of burlington. we got to get that word out. i think we are making progress,o. people also have got to
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are fighting. this is a senator who has taken on every interest, whether it's wall street, whether it's drug companies ripping off the american people, militaryore people know our record the better we do. i point out, john, that just yesterday to the best of my knowledge we actually won latinois a major break through for us in reaching out to a diverse nation. >> dickerson: that is major break through.r won among african american voters, a large portion of the electorate in south carolina, you don't seem to be making in ticking. >> we are making inroads. we are doing betterolding that i see not along racial lines but generational lines. we are doing better and better among younger people, not so well among older people.r they're white or latino. but we -- you're right are we
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but i think with the african american community understandsinal justice, my record on economics, the agenda, raising minimum wage to $15 an hour.e have more people in jail shamefully than any other country on earth, i am against the death penalty, secretary clinton is not.ple become familiar with my ideas we are going to do better and better. >> dickerson: senator sanders,g us. we'll be right back. . who are you? i'm vern, the orange money retirement rabbit from voya. vern from voya?om voya. why are you orange? that's a little weird. really? that's the weird part in this scenario? plook, orange money represents the money you put away for retirement. and there, and over time, your money could
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