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lcome back. ohio governor john kasich joins us now. ever you supporters in su tuesday stat they would like to vot f y primaries happen, the shou get behind maybe marc rub because they're worried abo donald trump make your pitch to them a wh t sul stick with yo >> first o all y t g known in thi country fo t fst tim a message binear these guys hav spe $

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win to still have a sho a this? >> wellook, we go t d wel vermont, i massachusettoi t do w virgini we belieha w wil ove perform mississipp we think we get to t mdwes wheth it mhiga remember, john a hea bernie sanders sayin i proportional. i don't have to win these places, i just have to han there an ctinue to gai momentumxpect to ge in t rac they didn't thi would get dbate stage different they didn'hink woul do well in n hampshire finished secon we weno sout caroli short period o ti lato peopl in sout carolina had no cl who was so, we're the engin tha ca everybody just relax o th look, think abo it, there we 16 a numbe o governo a there's only o le anhin that a t e w have to make sure that we hav somebody that ca g th town, change tha system gr, change the whole w

money and influence back to th states i'm optimist abo i >> dickerson: one of the oth arguments thaeople whoul consid republicans ar mking on until ther bomes o mainstream alternative to donald trump is there a chance fo trim top g kck o bhe shar why aren't you jus continuin to spl t v with marc gain, new hampshir finished fift ddn pla in sout carolina we'r going to g t -- marc 1 to number ste where wg well it's a matte o cntinui o john being ab t avantage the grass roots w n h some bush people who hav c our way both fromiew a fndraisin point of vie and we're going to kee struggling to ma sur tha we c b o

position o din well remember thi i t pers who beats hillary clinto b more than any oth candidate i th uae t tod polby 1 point i've ris t thi police th ntional polls o n where without spending muc mone i ge t mney, continue to p th gra roo tether, you'r going s great resul t cnsolidat th ogh t consolidate m wa >> dickerson: let me ask y policy questio wh w immigration that's not who w are as a country in t e pol in ne hampshir 6 support musli immigration ba nw in sou supported tha policy maybe th i w america ar >> it' nl aricansse polls as a result th have tha not going to change m positio

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