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captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> cowan: good morning, charles osgood is off today i'm lee cowan and this is a special edition of "sunday morning." a program about guns and america. our intent is not to take sides or pass judgment this morning but rather to take stock and cast light on a debate that seems to be growing ever louder with committed and sincere advocates on both sides. as we will see in our cover story. it's been said, god made man but
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>> this is the type of weapon that would have been used in lexington. >> guns offer window into our history the view hasn't always been crystal clear. >> guns are viewed more as a tool and that more in the 20th century you see convergence of gun laws and large number of guns. >> how america's love affair with firearms may have started is as only a cool crush. for more and more american women these days a concealed handgun is the weapon of choice. as our tracy smith saw for herself. >> it's no secret that more women are carrying guns. but where they carry them might surprise you. are there bra holsters? >> there are. normally i have a few. >> you're sold out? >> doesn't that figure. >> ahead this "sunday morning," female fire power.
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child picks up an unsecured gun, the result can be tragic. >> i thought of it like any other toy gun because it looked very similar. >> at age ten, sean smith accidentally killed his little sister. >> she's dead? >> yes. >> please get my mom and dad. >> unlikely tragedy not according to a landmark study of boys and guns. >> how hard is it to pull the trig they were. >> ahead this "sunday morning" a powerful urge to play. >> cowan: we're not the only country struggling over gun-related issues. 20 years ago in australia a massn that caused a sweeping decree action. seth doane takes you there. >> a lone gunman killed 35 people. it rattled ay and then
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you knew right away that you had to do something? >> it happened when a madman gotd firing weapons. >> ahead on "sunday morning" australia's dramatic response to its worst ever mass shooting. parts of the american west are a way of life. shared by young and old alike. ted koppel will be showing us. >> this town was named after william f. cody. known to the world as buffalo bill. there are more guns here on pern wyoming than anywhere else in the country. and the passion for firearms is ingrained at a young age. job. >> a very young age. families and their guns.
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bill cody built.orning." >> cowan: we've asked still more of our cbs news colleagues to help with. but here are the headlines the 113th of march, 2016. more pro tests this weekendign rallies for republican presidential candidate, donald trump. >> hope they arrest these people they are really violating all of us, okay?n: both republicans and democrats face key primaries in florida and ohio this tuesday. in alaska a 6-year-old man is accused of crashing hisle into two iditerod teams after a night of drinking. the mushers were not hurt, but one dog was killed, three others hurt. in the reminding, daylight saving time took effect early this morning meaning our weekend got one hour
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and another sign of team selection for college basketball's march madness. here is the weather. flooding to the already soaked lower mississippi river valley. it's wet in the southeast as well and in the west, a new storm will mean rain for sanar to seattle. warmer in the week ahead, just
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>> cowan: ny embraces firearms the way ours does. the more we argue about them the more it seems that are mystique grows. but just howpart of our cultural d.n.a. has been a long journey. that's where we begin. of all the artifacts that were aboard the good ship but would probably there. accompanying the pilgrims to plymouth rock. guns are so woven into the fabric of our founding that on the of the smithsonian's national museum of american history they have their very own vault., i get lots of visitors
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want to leave. >> david miller is the curator has got guns of all shapes and sizes and calibers and everyone has a historic reason for being here. >> this is the type of weaponen used in lexington or concord. >> it's not the gun that kicked it's similar. the musket is now in ever history book come to symbolize freedom and independence and even celebrated ane smash hit "hamilton." >> guns are just part of our every day language going off half cocked, flash in the pan, bite the bullet, all rootedarms lore. not necessarily. >> listen to how many sentences
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"americans have always" theyns. they have always had guns. the meanings of guns has changed. >> in her soon to be released book "the gunning of america."t settlers viewed the gun as a tool as necessary, and yet as ordinary, as a plow or an ax. >> we think we have a gun of this special exception systemsal status with guns, but really they are unexceptional. very much treated like any othert the start of the revolutionary war we didn't have arms to outfit the continental army. today we have more guns than people. how did we get from there to here. and here. >> the gun industry is not the got here, however it is the reason that never gets talked about. >> it's not just a matter of
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winchester and samuel colt did their level best to create a market for their wares. they would soon produce the same speed and efficiency as henry ford would later do with the automobiles. best known, the winchester 73 and the colt revolver. west. but as the frontier disappeared so did the desire of many americans to own a gun. >> these guns were notg themselves they weren't just flying off the shelf. >> so by the 0th century gun makers started to market their guns not just as a tool but a feeling. >> what was once needed nowd. >> there was a strong appeal to the young, too, and the notion of the gun as a rite of passage. >> one of the more interesting know your boy wants a gun you just don't know how much. he can't tell you. it's beyond words.
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full of toy ones. a must have. immortalized in the christmas classic. >> the red ryderange model air rifle. >> i resembled the iconic rifles of the wild west. and nothing the gun better than the cowboy. for real life legends like wild bill hickok, wyatt earp. came to represent the rugged individualism. as good guys and bad guys changed so did the gun. to my little friend. >> some became as famous as the stars who fired them. >> go ahead. make my day. >> cowan: we take our gunsy. owning them is a constitutional right. but we've also tried to
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>> americans have always had mixed feelings about guns.h as the gun slingers are part of our heritage so, too, is disquiet and discild west, towns like tombstone and dodge city prohibited people from carrying guns in public. fdr signed the first federal gun legislation hoping to reduce the number of gangsters. fast forward. >> president kennedy died at. central standard time. >> john f. kennedy, along with robert kennedy and the reverendjunior led president lyndon johnson to push 1968. >> we have been through a great deal of anguish these last fewt few years. too much anguish to forget.
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but what about now? be alarming sameness to our gun violence f. columbine high school to tucson parking lot. to a movie theater in aurora and in newtown. these incidents don't decrease gun sales instead gun sales tend to go up. in fact, u.s. gun makersy 11 million firearms in the year after sandy hook. not far from there in hartford,cut, it's a church built by samuel colt's widow. stands unique symbol of just where guns sit in our culture today. mixed in with the cherubs andfind her husband's firearms as art on the walls mingling with the ivy hidden at the top of the church's columns. e guns will always occupy, worshipped by
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in practice. closer look. >> the video surveillance from an albuquerque motel shows it clearly.n paces the corridor. a woman exits her room to get something from her car and then returns. >> and from out of no where thisd the corner, and this time he had a gun and he was pointing it right at my abdomen. >> at that very moment, lynnsband, chuck decaro emerged from the shower. >> and he then moved the gun from pointing at my wife to pointing at me. i need your money. >> but the gunman did in the know that russella former cnn anchor and decaroa former cnn who trained as a special forces soldier, habitually travel with guns that
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use.ble to actually move your gun through the nightstand into your purse? >> i slipped one of the guns into the purse and handed it toid take good look inside here see if there is anything you can find that we want to give the man. and chuck looked he said, yes, there is. >> and they say, as the started to shoot -- >> i drew. >> decaro fired back. you killed this man? >> i killed him. >> but you got shot well, that's the nature of the game. it's called combat. >> you might call them good guys with guns. an idea touted by someesidential candidates. >> 130 people killed. many people in the hospital. >> take donald trump on last attack in paris. >> if they had guns on the other
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bullets going in the opposite not have had positive 1/3rd people killed. >> and it's become a rallying cry for wayne la pierrz theo the distance. >> ceo of the national rifle association, the nation's most prominent gun rights group. >> the only thing that stops a a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> we asked to speak with him --icans share the nra -- >> instead the nra provided former president and current board member sandy froman of tucson.d guy with a gun really stop a terrorist attack? >> i think a good guy with a gun could protect himself or have a choice of using your gun to save your life or having your life taken. then, yes, i think you should have that choice.
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moreiding people own and are trained to use guns is the safer we'll all be? >> exactly. >> this is also a personal issue for froman who purchased hern at 32, after an attempted break in at her home. >> i think that we all need to be prepared in case something >> and gun sales are up. with background checks on buyers high of more than 23 million last year.ol personnel like these in ohio are preparing for the worst. while many gun rightsy it's time to end most bans on guns in public places. known as gun-degree zones.
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to obey that little circle with the line through it. why -- >> people are sitting ducks. >> sitting ducks, that's exactly right. >> we heard this bang, bang,ng, the succession of noises. >> colin goddard sees it differently. he was in french class ah on that day in 2007. >> you could hear it was getting louder then all of a what was coming in the front of the classroom. >> he was lucky. he recovered. 32 people were killed. yes he rejects the idea that good guys with guns could have saved the day.ever really a thought that came in my mind during the course of the event. i was much more concerned with how can we do a better job of stopping the one gun from comingssroom than trying to put a gun in every single
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you know, that felt like it would be a much more dangerous >> goddard now works for every town for gun safety advocating stronger gun control laws that he says would keep guns away first place. but the nra insists we don't need more laws. u pass a new law instead of enforcing the existing laws you further burdenns. >> none of that was there before. for chuck decaro he's now undergone six surgeries. he and his wife, lynn believe that their right to bear arms saved their lives. but they say being a good guy with a gun is not a political a personal one.
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cussion on the right to bear arms has to take note of the second amendment. any discussion of just who is bearing arms has to take note of the growing ranks of women.th will be along shortly but first, here's anthony mason. >> at the heart of the debateca is a single
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amendment of the bill of rights. the wording itself is unusual, ist's unusual. it's short. it's clogged with commas. >> michael waldman who heads the brennan center for justice atrsity law school is the author of a biography of the second amendment. >> the second amendment says, aa, comma, being necessary to the security of free state, comma, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, comma, shall not be infringed. what doesost disputed clause in the constitution is the phrase about militias which were a great concern when the bill of 179. >> the constitutional convention in philadelphia there was a very how allocate military power. >> nelson lund, professor of constitutional law at george
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would try to disarm the 13 state militias, which required every white male over 16 to own a an file federalists were very worried that the states were being deprived of their power to resist federal tyranny. >> the militia, sirsmate safety. patrick henry argued. we can have no security without it. while the guns were common place then, so were gun new york and boston prohibited the firing of guns within city limits. and in the notes for the constitutional convention, >> there's literally not a word about it protecting an individual right for gun ownership for self protection,r things we think about now. >> there's one side that believes that this amendment refers specifically and only to
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but it just can't be true. if you look at what the words say. it says the right of the people it does not say the right of the state or the right of the militias, it says the right of the people. >> the debate over the second amendment came to a head here atn 2008 in a case filed over the capital's gun laws called, district of columbia versus heller. >> in a 5-4 vote the cord an individual's right to keep and bear arms. striking down dc's ban on handguns in the home. the inherent right of self justice an toe anyone scalia wrote in the majority opinion has been central to the second amendment right. the right is not unlimited. also leaving room for gun regulation. >> is that a continuing grey area? >> it is absolutely a continuing grey area.
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>> another grey area is how the court might rule on future second amendment issues after the sudden death of judge scalia in february.you know, a lot depends on who replaces justice scalia. is tracy smith. you might call it girl power. women are the fastest growing group of gun. according to the national shooting sports foundation. and this is typically their weapon of choicea semi automatic light weight, accurate, and so simple that practically anyone can learn to use it. in states that allow it, aor some become the must-have accessory.
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i've got two it.r. >> can you show us where you carry it. >> right here in this holster. pocket. >> i carry on my person. >> it's pink. >> it is pink. i'm a girl.s out most prefer basic black. and since more women than ever ever r are taking up arms there are gun stores that cater to women. like this one inas, the name on the sign says it all. >> do you get lot of women say something that slips in my yoga pants? >> we do. lot of women that say we a belt. how do i carry. >> becky and her husband opened the store in 2012 selling things like thinner, lighter guns and purses with handgun where does the gun go? >> on the back. it has the two zippers. you can access from either side. >> these are for like fancy >> right.
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>> okay. there you go. readiness. >> there are people out there who will say, if a woman gets a gun it's more likely it will be used against her than she'll usese. >> that's a difficult one. if somebody wants to come in here and buy a firearm and i think it's going to be more of a threat to them until they areeverything i sell here is either for recreation in which case, please, use it. more than you like. i hope that no one ever has tof defense. >> she knows what that feels like. >> four men selected her and her. >> in january 2015 four armed robbers opened fire at the original she's a pistol store killing becky's husband. she says she survived onlyk. >> four robbers are still in critical condition.
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point i was comfortable pulling the trigger. >> did you ever really think? >> of course not. you never think you'll have to use it we cannot depend on the it our husband or father or police officer. anyone else. to protect us. we have to take that responsibility on ourselves. women like letita ivory, target practice has become the new knitting circle where women train for a day this they pray will never come.ferent than taking yoga class together? >> i can't do yoga. if i get on the ground i ain't >> but shooting? >> i can do that.
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>> cowan: experts are testing the limits of what bulletproof really means. er lena altschul has been >> this may look like your average every day auto shop except for one thing. quality control.t kimball is the very confident and brave founder and ceo of texas armoringsed company that turns ordinary cars into rolling fortresses. >> these aren't bank trucks that we're talking about.senger vehicles that can stop any type of rifle
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even up to hand grenades, ieds those type of>> don't call these vehicles bulletproof. you can make something 100% bulletproof? >> no. exist. all our vehicles are bullet resistant. not like the movies, the bullets don't bounce off it actuallyass will crack, it will splinter. >> don't want it to penetrate. >> , that. not going to penetrate. >> to their skeletons kim bell and his crew install custom ballistic steel plates and glass then put it all back together as good as knew.rmor a car goes from $40,000 on up and kimball says business is good and getting better. >>ess in the world, the economic downturn, the terrorism, that type of world that we live in nowadays is good
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unfortunately. >> who needs these armored vehicles? >> our clientele range from heads of state of foreign countries, all the way down to ae in the u.s. >> protection against kidnapping, protection against assault from an angry soccer parent? >> outside the u.s. it's main lyinst kidnapping for ransom. inside the u.s. they are usually protecting just against random street crime. when i got hit it felt like a >> detective michael levay of the nypd knows firsthand the value of protection. in 201 he was shot in his during routine stop for a minor subway violation. >> gentleman gets up, starts car door i see him reach into his waist band. the motion of his hand. first round goes off strikes me
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>> you were hit where, exactly? >> center of the vest. thankfully it stopped it. i believe it pierced the vest a little bit but enough that all i had was pretty much a giantirst commercially available bullet resistant vest was invented in 18893 by a chicago catholic priest namedr zeglen who proved his garment worked by having himself shot in front of an audience. the silk and steel vests including the arch duke franz ferdinand of to wear it june 28, 1914, when an assassin shot and killed him igniting world war i. recenthis invention could have stopped that fateful shot. fortunately for detective levay,
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saved my life and i try to be the to talk to some of the younger officers just, listen, take care of yourself. you could get into a dangerous watch yourself. watch your partner's back. be careful out there. >> cowan: up next.war on guns. ay to run the race for retirement. so we asked them... are you completely prepared for retirement? okay, mostly prepared? ve 1% more of your income? it doesn't sound like much, but saving an additional 1% now, rence over time. i'm going to be even better about saving. you can do it, it helps in the long run.
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morning, the city of chicago just this year has recorded 546 shootings so far. now some unarmed urban warriors are trying to chart a different course.miller. >> eddie bocanegra is determined
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a bright future.g lessons from his own dark past. so, you were in prison? >> correct. >> what did you do? >> i shot and killed somebody. live with that. >> i do. >> bocanegra served 14 years and three months for thattting out early for good behavior and earning a social work degree. there's no better way to askdoing the work that i do. >> his work is urban warrior, a program that he launched back at the ymca of metro chicago. >> the goal, to halt an epidemice. >> every time we see 14-year-old kid being shot and killed it has a ripple effect in the rest of
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>> lately, those ripples lookal waves. with roughly 100 homicides already, 2016 is chicago's a year in almost two decades. and most of the victims are african american.micide is the leading cause of death among young black men. nine out of ten times those fatalities are by gun. >> i would argue that we've lost in our streets in the last five years than we have in the last ten years in war. >> it's a comparison by design. military veterans are uniquely qualified to mentor young men from high climb neighborhoods. so he brings them together atroup meetings where they share stories and bonding activities. the common thread, post traumatic stress disorder from a battlefield.
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of my cousin's parties. it was like week and a half ago they started shooting inside the a week and a half ago? >> yes. a girl she got shot in her head. a security guard he got shot we had to apply a leg. >> at, veteran jamal mcfear son not much older than the young men he mentors at urban warriors.ge he left the streets of chicago to join the military. >> i think they're going -- by me sharing my traumatic's opened up the door for them to share their traumatic experience and confide in us. >> some of the veterans aren't much older than you are. are they bigures? >> more like brothers to me. >> 18-year-old miguel arreol and 17-year-old jaime and noahangs early. how old when you held your first gun? >> ten years old.
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>> how would you get one? >> one, two, three. >> from urban warriors they left guns and gangs behind. the program is now being studied at the university of chicago.g is clear already. there's a little bit of hope where there was once no hope at all. who came in how is he different than the guy who came out? >> i don't see myself taking a life but changing somebody'ssee myself going to prison i see myself going to college..
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owever heated the debate over guns and sieve sill vans. few question the importance of fire power for our armed forces. >> there are gun lovers then there are marines.e just another rifle to you, but to a marine infantry man like sergeant joshua sherman is theuccess and failure, life and death. >> basically your tool to keep yourself and your friends alive then do the job at hand. >> marines refer to their rifle as "she" like a girlfriend.you push forward and you're actually in iraq and afghanistan wherever the marine corps might send you that weapon never leaves your side. >> he's newest rifle to be issued to marines. his battle buddy, corporal shamar matheny is carrying the older 3/4his has 12 inch barrel. range. but it's two pounds lighter.
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you're trying put on an infantry marine. >> a shorter barrel might not mean much but could be urban combat. >> if you're coming around a corner into a hallway can mean big difference when it's showing >> all the rifles are becoming smaller and lighter. the man in charge of developing new weapons for the marines saysf telescopic sight is the biggest change. >> most people when they think sniper rifle. >> right. >> every rifle has this. >> what would be considered aan be achieved by this, by every single brand. >> the real snipers are creeping through the woods carrying a of weapon designed to pick off the enemy
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like the camouflage suit he isifle is custom tailored. >> i don't imagine there's anybody that has closer relationship with his weapon than a sniper. >> snipers definitely fire farth a lot more responsibility and understanding of what that round is doing than any other formal in fran tee, i would say. >> as with the infantry riflesre switching to a smaller, lighter sniper rifle. >> this is one its way out. >> essentially. >> you going to miss it? >> yeah. i've known since i've came to this. >> sergeant jared chambers can console himself with the fact that the new model is four pounds lighter. >> we haveces equal pounds and pounds equal pain. the less ounces you've got the less pain you're going to have. >> each rifle in a marine fire purpose. the snipers are usually first to fire, trying to pick off high value targets like enemy machine guns.
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a chance to move across openfirst to come up is machine gunner ryan moore to lay down a base of fire. >> you're the first guy forward. >> >> that could be risky. >> when i was in afghanistan it definitely seemed that the machine gunner had a nice target painted on his flack jacket for thet drum contains 200 pounds which he fires in two to three second bursts, any longer and the gun's recoil will make his shots go wild. >> in myt part, machine guns will actually change or paint the actual outcome of the battle space. i'm going to instill cond and their ability to move forward and then i'm also going to put the fear in the enemy where they don't want to fight. >> these marines could spend all day telling you about the intricacies andes of their weapons. here is the one thing you need to know about the marine and his rifle. >> it's a very personal thing f.hing wrong
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not the weapon itself. you make it better. >> so the weapon is only as good>> absolutely, sir. a weapon is going to do what it's designed to d. marines are trained to make it do what it's designed to do. >> what did you shoot? >> cowan: when children shoot children.
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t how common is for a child to accidentally shoot and kill another child. one time presidential candidate adlai stevenson shot and killed a female cousin in a gun mishap that was back in 1912. marcia tirer has more recent example. >> they were riding their bikes to school that day.ed around came back, what are you doing? you're going to be late. just want to tell you i love
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gave me a nice kiss. >> those were the last words and smith and her daughter erin would ever share. >> i always tried to make her laugh every chance i could. she was sister i could have. >> whenever i said, i want your picture. he would put his arm around her. >> sean smith, arm around hise day before it happened. suburb. she was eight, he was ten. voice on the excruciating 911 call. >> and i shot her.sten, who did you shoot, sean? >> my sister. i didn't mean to. >> don't worry, severing okay. >> nationwide, there are nonts but according
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kids are killed accidentally every year. >> lauderdale -- they were home alone after school. hunting for video games, shawn dresser. >> i thought of it like anyow, toy gun that i similar. i remember her backing away to the wall and i remember at that point aiming it out the front window and thent off, just as she was running out of the room. >> she's dead. >> yes. >> please get my mom and dad. oh, my, god! picking her up and putting her in my lap and looking down at her and it's almost like she wasn't there. you could see the light was just out of a tragedy, yes. unexpected behavior, hardly.
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results of a landmark 2001 study showing a potentially fatal attraction of boys to guns. >> we 12-year-old boys in a room where there was actual handgun. >> dr. hal simon is a professorty medical school in atlanta. this was the actual gun used. >> was modified, magazine was radio transmitter put in you could actually know if they pulled the gun with enough force to have fired it then we would be able to monitor it. >> that's pretty easy. were brought in groups two of or three to the room where the .38 was hidden in a drawer. >> he had just taken it out of the drawer. he turns andhat. >> the university blurred the boys' faces and bodies on the video, but it's still possible
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>> so, the 64 kids, 48 of them actually found the handgun and 16 of the children actually enough force that it would have discharged the weapon. when we looked at those that actually found the gun, almost half of those kids could not real. >> it could be argued that a child shot by a child isn't the only victim.ot into drugs and alcohol, dropped out of high school. his more's response -- another child. i'm tougher than that. i'm going to save him. >> the birth of his son, dylan, was what finally turned shawn know what, you got to be responsible for another life. i was given a second chance. >> today he manages an auto parts warehouse.ives with his
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dylan lives there, too.s another angel, every year around erin's birthday. and finally, s,an can look at photo? walking hand in hand to the beach. >> always nervous about going >> i would hold her hand and we'd go in. >> now, he can remember his sister's life. cowan: ahead -- without guns there would be no west. >> cowan: the view from wyoming. g for retirement because getting there requires exactly that. a plan for what you want your future to look like. for more than 145 years, pacific life has been lutions to help individuals like you achieve long-term financial security. bring your vision for the future to life with pacific life.
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offer end april 4th. for great deals on other toyotas, visit toyota.com thanks, jan. jan! toyota. let's go places. >> cowan: to some city dwellers guns are a potential threat to life. but those who live in our wideee guns as a way of life. for that story we turn to the newest member of our "sunday morning" family, senior contributor, ted koppel.ever wondered where the deer and the antelope still roam, this is it. it's the story book west to so the big fellow, the one who looks like he's been riding all
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resemblance to teddy roosevelt, this is his mooncrest ranch a few miles outside cody, wyoming. those are some of bob's ranch to feed the horses. when they head up into the mountains they will be carrying rifles, for protection against wolves and coyotes, or to puthat's broken a leg. even down here a couple of the men carry handguns. land. model owns 5,000 acres and then there's another 195,000 acres of public land ranch. so you're sitting on roughly 200,000 acres of my land? >> i am. >> well, you're weleciate that. >> okay. >> i would say to you, i'm a good steward. i use it for grazing my
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i am also a game outfitter. and you're lucky to have me, you know, watching after your land. >> you know, when people who don't hund a place like this and you see all of the heads up on the wall. they say, what the hell is that guy talking about? conservation?. >> the hunters have played an important role in conserving not only wildlife, but our resources upon which wildlifive. getting around it, guns are big in wyoming. more guns per capita than any state in the country. as for thek county, that's where cody is located, well, here's the sheriff, scott steward. >> if they have guns in the home the low end is going to be five. high end is going to be 100 to more. >> how machine iep people in
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>> i would say, a very still, when it comes to the rate of gun-related murders, wyoming is below the national average. tell you he's already with all those guns out here. he has only a handful of deputies. >> we might have three on duty in the county to coveruare miles m. times you have deputy on one side of the county get a call 40 miles away, chances are he's not going to get there to intervene in any kind of conflict that is goingu're telling me people need to be able to take care of them. >> absolutely. >> guns are woven into the tapestry of all old wyoming that of retired senator alan sim ton, for example. how long have you you simpsons been out here? >> might gre to jackson in 1848. my grandmother lived to be a hundred, she was born in salt
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two years before the custershe always carried a daringer in her purse. >> i assume back then folks needed their guns.here would be no west. this is a .30 caliber. >> there is a string ofis family. >> my grandfather murdered a guy in the main street of cody in august of 1923. >> because? >> my grandfather was ae represented this guy. the guy didn't like the result. came up behind my grandfather, hit him in the back of the head. >> simpson's grandfather got a gun and shot his client, killedcal jury voted for acquittal. and then there's the senator's own boyhood. >> i was an assassin. we were we stole shells. .22 shorts and would go out into the hills and see how close we could come to each other in the rocks.
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surprised learns no fan of gun control legislation. >> gun control in wyoming how steady you hold your rifle. why didn't you go a few shots. >> that's the senator's son, colin, with his son, mac. they call him big mac.atch what your dad did with you? >> absolutely, ted. what i'm doing here with the boys is exactly what we did. >> there's a real effort tofety. >> people in other places don't understand how careful we are. how much we understand and how we learn from a young age. >> age 13, romero is already a crack shot. it's an expensive sport, though, and his father had him draft at he's prepared to do in order to keep shooting. >> i have to keep a gpa above
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not do any drugs or alcohol.tty much. just stay out of trouble with the law. and my teachers, respect him and my mom. >> when he was about seven. that's how old ella is now. but she and her dad bo alleneen at this for awhile. >> nice shot. >> when is the first time you shot a gun? >> well, i think it was when i was five.re an old hand at this? you've been doing this for a long time? you like coming out and shooting with your daddy? >> yes. >> that's 5-year-old her daddy justin showing how how to thumb back the hammer on her pistol. >> good job. >> she is as sweet as she can be a good time. >> yes, sir. >> but there's some people might
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awful young. >> not at all, actually. >> tell mect starts now. respect of life. respect of country. respect of game. everything starts now.n they're impressionable. >> hayley? turn around here so you can see thet to know one thing, did you have a good time? did you enjoy this? would you like to do it again? at this point some gun controls in our major cities may can shaking their heads in disbelief. folks out here, though, couldn't care less. >> and they don't what people think about back there while they're killing each other every day more than they are out here, why do we have to listen to that? >> out on a pheasant shoot,ir guns get along just fine.
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it's a family event. memories i have with my father and my brother and my two boys and my -- i mean, you name it. those are wonderful memories. >> to a great extent our perspective on guns is shaped by where we live. the view from cody, wyoming. en the chronic, my doctor and i agreed that moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. he also prescribed lyrica.ients, lyrica significantly relieves fibromyalgia pain and improves physical function. with less pain, i feel better. lyrica may causergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling,e breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling or blurry vision. common side effects are
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he turbo clean.6x the cleaning power in 1/2 the time e wake of deadly shooting rampage back in 1996 the australian government reacted quickly and decisively to ban concern guns. so did it make a difference?ne takes a look. >> it's said when you lose your parents, you lose your past. when you lose your child, youuture. >> carolyn loughton flung herself on top of her daughter when a gunman started shooting. but it was not enough to save
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>> she >> she just turned 15, yes. >> one american is among the injured in what is being described as the worst massacre this century. a lone gunman with aered rifle -- >> the shooting in cafe in the tasmanian town in port arthur telling the story still makes carolyn shake. what is it like being in a mass shooting? >> it's beyond frightening.g. and for every bullet that's fired, that's a life gone. gone. gone. and bang, and when is it going to be my turn. >> carolyn was shot. >> this is actually me. on the stretcher? >> did not though for hours her daughter had died.
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in the end, 35 people were killed. and it rocked australia. it came just six weeks after aster had been elected. >> i thought to myself, if i don't use the authority of thise to do something, the australian people are entitled to think, well, this block's not up to much. >> as to the gun controlhen prime minister john howard, a conservative politician and close friend of george w. bush pushed through sweeping gun controljust 12 days after the massacre. >> the hardest things to do in taking away rights and privilege from our i don't know supporters. >> the tough new laws banned the sale and importation of all semi automatic
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forced people to present a legitimate reason and wait 28 days to buy a firearm.rhaps most significantly called for a massive mandatory gun buyback, australia's government confiscated and destroyed nearly 700,000 firearms number of gun-owning households by half. >> used to say to me, you violated my human rights by taking away my just say, will you please understand the argument, the greatest human right of all is to live a safe life without fear of random murder. >> in the 15 laws were passed, there were 13 mass shootings. in the two decades since, there has not been one. decreased by nearly 60%. >> it is incontestable that fallen
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australia. >> it's clutching at straws. john howard just simply didn't like guns. >> senator davidyonhjelm left howard's political party in protest over the strict gun laws. >> there could have been something done about keeping firearms out of the hands of were made to pay the price. i don't think there's any relationship between the and the level of violence. >> critics who say saw can't say that these changes in gun deaths happen because of this well, i can say that. because all the surveys indicated if you had 30 mass shootings before and none since, isn't that evident? andn the gun related suicide rates, is that sniffed
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all magically going to >> this is where i keep the pistols and rifle am knew mix and the rifle bolts. >> lawyer and wine maker greg he locks up his weapons. >> if the weapons are in here, am knew knicks' in there. >> locked separately. >> yes. >> locking up guns andte saves is another regulation as are surprise inspection by police. he had to part with some of his prized guns in the buy back. >> how many still own? >> i knew you were going to to ask me, i don't know. >> the answer about two dozen. >> this is browning nine hill>> which he uses for sport, hunting and shooting pests on his vineyard. >> he sees gun ownership not as a right but a p very uncomfortable going back to the way it was before when anybody could go in and buy a fire glam really? why? >> quite frankly, i find it as an american ask me a question like that.
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people getting killed in the united states. you have these ridiculous arple carry guns so they can defend themselves. >> but this is being said by a gun owner who shoots for sport. >> i have genuine reason for using firearms. >> from tasmania to sydney, to laughton's living room. >> the bullet went my scapula. >> were there lessons for the would loathe to comment. but my questions how is it going for you over there? but i can't answer that for you. my heart goes out to all of youica. life is so short. and all -- everyone of us is somebody'swhen we see what's happening, your heart bleeds.
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cowan: some opponents of gun control argue that the focus shouldn't be on guns but on keeping guns away from the mentally disturbed. which brings us to this report from erin moriarty of "48 hours."lison parker and -- alison parker loved telling everyone who tuned in to her morning news show what was happening in roanoke, virginia. except her boyfriend, chris hurst. >> she had this thing about not wanting me to watch her because she thought that she'd mess up. >> neither chris nor alison'sndy and barbara parker, were watching last august 26th, when her live interview with a local chamber of commerce executive wasrupted by gunfire. >> say that is what --
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>> not sure what happened there. >> 50,000 people watched itwe did not see it. we never will. >> you never will see it? >> never. >> alison and chris had met and fallen in love at the station as an anchor. he was asleep at home when a few minutes after the shooting, a wdbj staff member phoned chrise needed to come in. >> i believed in my heart that she was dead within minutes of waking up that morning. it was all taken from me.>> the gunman fired at least eight times killing alison and cameraman adam ward. adam was 27. >> she was beautiful. she had an amazing sense of humor. >> it's my scene safer on my phone.ig a kiss. >> the gunman turned out to be
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he was a troubled former stationnagan, who had been fired in 2013. before taking his own life later that day, he released a 23-pageg that he had been motivated by other mass shootings. >> i'm andy parker and when my daughter alison was murdered on live television, iwas going to do whatever it takes to reduce gun violence in this country. >> like parents of other shooting victims the parkershanged the course of their lives. grief fueling fury. >> first you're numb. you're completely in shock.e uncontrollably. obviously i still do. but then it turned toking aer. >> what changes do you want to see? >> simple thing universalcks and closing the loopholes in these gun shows, that's the simple stuff. >> but the sad fact is that pass a background check and bought his
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>> there are people that say, well, nothing would have prevented her death. okay. maybe so. but is that a to save the next life? even if it's one life. >> the parkers insist they are not taking aim at gun ownership, but at the nra which they say any discussion about regulations. there. i think there are lot of people intentioned but doomed to fail. >> we're on a mix. i don't think it's quixotic i don't think we're going to fail. >> we've seen this become arsation. where as, even a couple of years ago, no one would talk about it. now people are all discussing it and telling us, what you'retant. >> what happens though to people like andy and barbara when they try to become activists? >> they becomeon't have any fear. we really feel like she's
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"face the nation" the 2016 presidential campaign comes unglued. violent protests at trump rallies our cbs battleground tracker poll shows movement in. protests at trump rallies which began in chicago. and kansas city last night markedon in the angry political tone in america. >> don't hurt the person. don't hurt the person. i'm a nonv you know that about me? >> dickerson: we'll talk to donald trump about the chaos what he's going to do about it. we'll hear from our cbs news reporter arrested trying tomonstration. and do or die or two candidates

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