>> dickerson: welcome back. we're back with more this former president vat candidate and current donald trump supporte dr. be cso

immigration. you said donald trump wants t enforce the laws so tha lgicall lad conclusion that mllio people who are in t cuntr illegally enforcing t l would mean getting the out but when you press t campai on that, that's what has to b worked out which a lot o ppl wh bee ihis -- pa attention to thi i awhile here code that building a doo ultimately n dpo t 1 millio w a i ameri a ar undumente it's no ral code it using o head using common sense we have laws a rgulations f a reason we don't reall kno h t work becau w simply haven' been applyin the that's bot democrats an rpublican it's ver m lik y hom because somebody wants to com to you hom, yu le the in no, you want t know w the are. yo w t kno who i the ar you s o daughter

you understand who this person is it's the same thing that wan to do w w wt proec t american peopl particularly at ti whe w know that there a peopl o there who want to harm u this is just common sens >> dickerson: so i guess the lauestion, y hav a doubt that donald trump wi begi o h becom president deporting the 1 millio wr in america and a undocumente w certain individuals w hav c crimes, wh ke comi ba who ice demands l loo into o communities, thos people wil nnger b bth bothering americans. we wil n havanctuar cities. we will begin t d things th make sense this shoul somethi tha appeals to all americans, as fa as i conrn i should n be parsassu we'r talki about o safe and our security f ourselv an f o progeny

harsh words for hilla clint he called her big suggest he not use that wor why? >> wel oe t le win publications, i was asked abo that sai y know t u terminolog racist bigo all these kin o thing a detractinrom t r thin that w need to b talki about. of course th jus say crs says, tru shouldn u thi word but, y kno thi peopl are getti sopis to rea tou t lin n and understand th isu t fa ameri a gigantic and they're going to have b impact th electio s vtall important. becaus i two completel differen pilosophies on say let' tak p a redivi i euitabl redistribute, let's make lots o pies, groh thi tremendously. these ar ver differe

they want to pick o the little words that people s s we c der attenti awa let's ta a t iue th i vtally important a everybody should b prou o thei psition don't try t hide youositions an deceiv people and thinki somethin else >> dickerson: fair enough. bu worigot mean somethin vry spes i ha particular people. and it g t wh t candidates, head of th democrat prt h i h heart if she iig hea thi isn jus kd side word this goes to t hea of h mtivation about who set olicies that he saying. is ii t jus pass i b wh t is charge bei made against her wll it' n wis tngag in nam calli al hillary clinton is calling h racist trying t asociate hi wi the klu klu kla wher di te ku klux klan cam from

part who is the party o saver party of jim cro a discrimination, what was t party that pushed throu t the civil righ legislatio and voting right th tepublican they wer etablished abolitionist party docra come alo sayin yeah, know but it a switched anepublica becam democra what a tot l there's no evidence of tha whatsoever. sma gro people stil goi o, stil manipulating, stil using lyin do we want t tal abo tha yes, we do want to tal about i to som degree but we really ne t tal abo the issues tha aect t quality of life o o cldre that i s iportan 20 triion dollars deb what is that goi t d t them why don't we talk abou the things >> dickerson: let me a y about the pitch that donal trump made to th aic american community in hi speech, this idonald tru saying, what do you have to lo by tryi somethi n lik donald trump you live i poverty, you schools are no good, you hav n

employed what the hell do you have t us what do you make -- what d y think that have pitch how i will be received well again, y want listen t what i bei sai he tlkinbou progressiv moveme ahey' rulg an majo cti o o nati what has that l t in t l 30 years, mor pvert mo incarceration, broke hom ou o school dropout how is that ucces why do w w contin tha we need l a smethin else and you're going te coming from th rpublican which admit, th have bee late to th g w shou hav been into this l tim a because th plici th hav bepoused o goo policie but they have not be expresse in a w t people ar gin

them that's why he' beittack because you're not supposed attack the sacre ch i our -- these are o peopl these are ou vti boc don't you dare come in here a lot of people in th bla community ar ver ver intelligent they're going to b listening very carefully wh is bei s b bot sid a they're going to b maki i diligecision >> dickerson: last question based on medic expertis y mentioned they shoul rleas medical records, as docto what do you ma o s and other doctoiagnosi candidates, kind o o television and from th sideline is that somethin tt sho b done? >> well, o cour no we lik t u rata but t one of th w t eliminate that kin speculation fr bo candidates to relea t medica rcord as people g olde l o thin beg to wrong wi thei bodies and tink th america peopl have right t kn becau

candidates what their healt status is because it' v intens j is no eig hours , it' 2 wi constant stres we need to know tha w have leader who c withstan tat >> dickerson: made that ca privately m. trump wh you're i communication wit >> i hav tlk t ab the heal records an healt concerns this wek i think he perfectl wil releas tt informatio a long a s releas h well >> dickerson: dr. ben cars thanks for being with u we' thanks for being with u we' be right bac hey, it's the phi'! there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try these delicious phillips' fiber good gummie a good source of fiber to help support regularit mmmm. these are great my work here is done

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>> dickerson: for? m analysis, jeffly goldberg is nation crresponden f atlantic, keefe cove politics for te "washingto post leslie sanch rpublic consultant a contribut t ou digit netwo cb a ma leibovich is chi nation correspondent for the "new yor time magazine donald trump and where he is o immigration. nothing h change brs says a kellyannonw say >> i w thinking aob, one o th hard jobournalis right now because he h cover moment t ment dona trump'hetorical a psibl policy shifts mmigration it's ver h tep it rea obviously he was trying t piv away from ver har positio he understands that hs floor, he understands that he has ceilin tloor, hi

that tou rtoric bu h kno that he's not punchin through ceiling unless h sftens, thi whole we be thiertig inducing kind rtorica spinning, trying to please a camps wh he' doi ris ca alienati t bas witho punching through t ceilin convincing peopl t h softening as t w go >> dickerson: ceiling that jeffrey is talking about thi notion thahere arpublic wome vot cle edat voters who are lookg for so proof, the d like hillar clinton they're goi to gra anything they ca b some pro that donald trump is softenin that he' lstening advice thi gambit towar t group? dinely, terson w would know that kllyann conway s crtainl someb wh helpe clohomen gap foepublicans f 2 year what's interesting when yo clos tispan g itar to sound mor iclusiv istea of the whi h rhetoric b

and that's where they ar aiming, n communitie col thi whi independents >> dickerson: sit working bas on you rportin speking o wh wom thi week at rlly forid i wa working, becau t argument -- trum supporters t begin with they made cle a long as the wal i untouche as long i sti bui basically, we have n prob with h mulating he everything els f h madeo news t wall, still t system th mexico would pay for it t th they were fine wi tat mayb 2 disapprovati wit hispanics not going anywhe ther jeffrey says it's a h job reminded me this week o covering jeb bush an ma rubio ye a whi immigration policy warett clear, they wou sudden modulate every once i awhi say something slightl differe you have to be attuned t t hink th fol coverin trump closely got taste thi week. but at the end of the week he'

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there's two ke wrdhere' amnesty and th wa on tho aea hrdline nev move but losin isu f republicans, it nossib to build walro u.s.-mexi border, not going ppen you have t rran river, flood plain ju n fasible thi t rsalt somewhere i the midd the have fin approach that work >> dickerson: where are in last week donald truxpresse regret lesl talk about th pitch differen constituencies, wher a i the donald truolution, i this a n vrsio of na trump, when cled hillar clinton bgo tha g som people concerned that he wa going back to t o tum where do things stan >> don se an r discernible movement towards warmer fzzie tump wh says things lik t when h

condolences, when he continu tal about -- or hi surrogates tal a deportation force legals o thispanics, none of tha work none o i wi wo and voters tal t t experts that look at thi s like thi i -oing to b transactional like th m jus ma i wo f h i a attempt toe try to b unifyi figure. igives so comfor t skeptica republican fne but they should have bee ag this has bee bed fwhile >> i i late be - t t unifying figure thing, w sa it's n hature i think o thing again, wha was one of h bigge asset was th dcisiveness, thiss sort o cnfused versi where okay, where does he staf al people talk about t bigo h called hilla cinton b this came aft prett blistering see that hilla

striking one, it was n actually n callin speec it w using h o wds, hi owolicies, ow histor pret chesive against hi and what w sriking abo t reaction, other than donal trump staying she's bigo there wa really -- unle missed it not lot oepublic leaders, tradition republican who rise t h defen whic think spok volume may m so than whatever cam o o h >> the purpose that have, one o the purposes that have speec was to force h t rev bac to his usual sel whi h ha sid, wil atck, th predicte cinto campaign kn th h wou s smethin bigot in this case, that aga trying to bring him back t wha they think o a h tru natur where his moving, thi again, on immigration a o issues confrontational, t h language how much they try t muddy thi w w

>> dickerson: also hillary clinton trying to change the top frick her o be whi we'll switch to in momnt lesl l m a y wha hillary clinton tri t d c of rpublicans from tru saying, he has thielationsh t nationalis rci group bu tt' n republicans. do you think that will b successful, she's defending t part against donal tru does hillary clinton have a standing to do tat >> a lot republicans t t do the same thi elier in th primar finally came out if we g bac trum dsavowe dnounced an of the organizations, the extremists who supported h campaign distanc himself to th best o h ability to be d quickl n waited too too long, in th media cycl especiall i io wher acusations o r calls that werpactin t cucus caucuses. i don't think it's new, i don think it pticularl effective because on tha particular issue peoe ma u their min

it's t les o tvil s to speak rally n ton a this point. >> wou say - sorry >> i wou just t m wh sh talks li tt what's les about winning t repblic voters it's about sort o reminding rpublican law maker that when you get back t should i b president, sti want to work wi you i understan t differen betwee y pul rya and mit mcconnell than you donald trump. that if i' going to successful president i'm go need to find w t wk wi you something tha t m ju cod sort of saying t the difference. aough i d think i targeted directl a republic voters particularluburb o cleaved, denve s fort if you look t numbe sin th cnventions, h nbers - she's probably gaine eig nine poi from t dicit s was comi i she's a republic voters t democrat cnvention w geare very ver explicitly, ve clearly i think publican mainstreepublicans, j bush, mar rio wha hav yo it's been very auncometi

>> dickerson: they see h trying to pivo saying yo can visit >> i i don't think tha i only directed a republican this is g o t v attempt by hillary clint t remi hispanics backs asians eeryone, that the a the peop he' associat wit very important to ad mobilize thoseumbers, that' how you i i don't think it ieffectiv all it's ver effecti t rmi people that dav duke lik dona tru that - >> same kind o agume 2008 when people were tki about th aignments a associations tha bara ob ha thr history o h gra root campaigning really, it ging -- peopl have such a i idea especial republicans whe i come to llar clinto for ma republicanve thought they s pition voting for hillary clinton, no going to be moved on thi identity politic au w going t b cangi t

>> dickerson: we're back with more from our politics panel. mark, i'll start with you, hillary clinton this week t disclosures two, dvelopments one set of e-mai that showe staffers of the clinto foundation and staffers at t statepartment an 1,0 railroad n e-mails that were fou t weren't turned over fro t home bre srver take either o tose yo want a whether this mi periodically, on e i will until

what's interesting about thi week ink the t k big lurkin issues e-mail and t fundation really sort bought th together int t sa conversation. this is a bad wee for shoul have been bad week f t clinton campaign thin again thum cmpai muddle owdvantage talbou hillary clinton's health an what hav you but you d sor o wond the foundation least l o peop suggest w n tu over t operations of t gate foundation omeone wh knows how to dh incorporate all thesource it complicated b i c foreclose lhes suspicions, it could be sort o decisive answer and i thi they' unwillingness to do this t t soitigate this maybe mor than they nee t go a kin of -- something betwe entitlement and maybls confiden >> dickerson: sheer what wonder ab 3% of t peopl

clinton camp to the questio thi the e-maillearl show that whe somebody fro t clinton foundation sends a e-mail there's fussing around try to help the out now, may the n pay play but lot o activi bas on the fact tha peopl hav given a lot o mon th clint campaigays nobody got a meeting o anything because they ga donation t t pas t sme test? >> there'sesumption nefariousness on the part t foundation and the clinton in this particularas loo agree, that t fndatio probablyhould ha b borrow prase wall o while ag that there should have been w to put that i t th said, th s th there' le tan mee t e most of the people who we' priz winner, fr bnglade who got mting w wou g a meeting wit a secreta state. whether are heads o sta giv money to t foundatio w would get meeting with the

anything out of the meeting all th said, there' a appearance ooziness, gue is the word tha you'sin >> dickerson: if y d ami a little coz iurance don brazile said rpublican s a nefariousness, tlin campaign barely saying there w etin sying there's n relationship. don't they have to admit ye okay, yo g e-mails g returned, but some people got meeting, some people didn't an but they're not eve syi that. >> what yoefiniti o meetins th cearl p t pl scheme. as much publican us i tre's so muc smo there that t biguesti is, isn'hart of tha that surrounds t clinton brings you book selling acces to t linco bedroom all the different thin t come part th package de of bil and hillarlinton, would say tha t independenc

this aga say her w a on the corruption - >> show me one thih someone go from hilla clinton's state department because they happen to give money to tinto fndatio t meeting i witintu evidence >> dickerson: but your bar i meeting -- there are lot o mee thanappened - >> had hundreds meetin week. email beteen them tha said this fri o our maybe you can d a short bu meeti nnetheles yes, mayh cro prince saudrabia would get t meeting anyway you woul tin thes are there e-mails - >> part ise ieresting par why donald trump is succeedi to t degree th tea succeeding. this is washington people who knoac other an ar influenti mee wit oth influentiaople that' hma nature that's politic this is what peopl osi o washington do find, this i n

it's a example >> dickerson: we'll have to go people write b check g things that they want even i it's not the b c the g what they wa tat wh mak people - tat go b i for us today thank t a of yo for watchin we'll be back in a momen houston: mission allergy escape. for those who've gone to extrem to escape their unrelenting nasal allergy symptoms.. for those who've houston: news alert. new from the makers of claritin, clarispray.

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