finally, my friend, marion williamson in town, former congressional candidate, author, speaker, she was here as a surrogate speaker for bernie sanders, all that and more on another episode of "roske on politics." we have become a rich and great nation again. >> we have the top one-tenth of one percent, with more wealth than to the bottom 90. >> keep negotiating. >> the thing i've concerned about in the nation for the last few years have not changed. >> we are chatting with mark leibovich. >> governor bobby jindal. >> thank you for having us in your beautiful home. >> hop on the back.

>> i love it. >> state senator. >> senator tomorrow tom hark in. >> you don't have to win the caucus. if you come in a good second. >> someone has been on the show several times. >> any candidate who is seeking to earn the awesome and sacred trust of the presidency of the united states has to come and engage with the people of iowa. >> governor mike huckabee. >> mr. got a gingrich. >> the highest ranking democrat in the state of iowa. >> senator chuck grassley. >> haven't eaten anything other than fried snickers and can't describe it. it's like going to heaven. >> we need to push back on the rnc. this is a dumb way to do it. at the end of the day brad pitt will bev in our debate. >> it's the first contest. >> a potential clinton-castro ticket. >> who are the nominee is gets

will be. >> let's pause, and count its many tears, with the poor. it's a sign of the weary. hart times come again no more. many days you have lingered outside or cabin door. all hard times come again no more. >> governor martin o'malley, welcome back.

we're here at the polk county democrat dinner. we're very grateful you're here today. the only candidate that made the choice to be here. why was tonight. >> because of the importance of the polk county democrats and your chair, tom henderson. the service that iowa performs for the whole country is this, at a critical time. when it looks lying big money has taken over our politics and trying to demeanor the outcome of our elections, here in iowa the individual person actually matters, the activist, the leaders can those who care about the future of cower country enough to be here day in and day out. so i want to help build up the party. >> my show broadcasts in iowa as well as maryland. what is similar and different between being governor of maryland and the possible job of the president? >> wow. scale for one. international affairs, foreign policy, national security for

but in another way, the discipline that one develops as an executive leader is a similar discipline, whether you're a big-city mayor, whether you're governor or president, your first job is to protect your people, the safety of your people, and you need to create systems that allow you to be constantly in the center of the ever and faster emerging truth, so that you can make the right decision and the best decisions to not only protect your people but also to pull people together to give a better future to our kids. in that respect, that executive discipline is similar. it's all about bringing people together to accomplish difficult things. >> this will broadcast right after the debate. what do you hope to happen on tuesday? >> i hoch people well railize there's more than two candidates running for president in the democratic party. that what i hope. i hope that people will see in my candidacy a new generational perspective but also a candidate

and the executive experience to actually take progressive goals and values and ideas and make them happen elm that's what i've done as a mayor and governor and what i can do for our country in this critical time as president of the united states. >> presidential candidate governor martin o'malley, thank you.

>> see you soon. welcome back to "roske on politics." as you know, if you watch this show, normally we chat with presidential candidates but not today. something special. former congressman patrick kennedy, you're in des moines, thank you for being on the show. >> great to be with you. >> you're part of the house of representatives for over a decade, but actually decided not to run again in 2011, to focus on mental health issues and you're here in des moines with the "now" campaign what's going on? >> well, we have an epidemic in this country of untreated mental illness and addiction.

rate of homicide, we have over -- twice as many. >> twice as many suicides as homicides but you don't read them in the newspapers because they're not often listed as suicides. if you read the obituaries closely, look for the words "died unexpectedly," or "died suddenly" and if it correlates with someone who is younger, premature, not in their 70s and 80s, i guarantee, more often than not that's someone who took their own life or died of a drug overdose, and there is an epidemic out there, and of course we have these recent shootings, to a shooting, each perpetrator is someone who had -- everyone's back turned against them when they needed help. not like we have to feel

we just have to understand that, i believe, they could have been prevented if we had responded when those individuals had exhibited their first incident of psychosis, serious mental illness. when you treat cancer early, it usually is successful in treatment. if you treat any other illness aggressively and early, there's usually positive outcomes. but with mental health we wait until the person has stage four mental illness. same with addiction. we wait until people are at death's door before we try to help them. that makes no sense, either for saving the person's life, and it makes no sense economically either. it's shocking to me -- we're living in 2015, and we are in the stone age when it comes to the treatment of people with real medical issues.

sorry i have to be so basic about it. but our medical system doesn't even acknowledge that the brain is part of the body, because our health care system doesn't bother checking whether you're mentally well, and it's shocking. so the now campaign is we need to change this now. we cannot wait for another generation of lost lives because of our inability to get to changing the status quo. >> your personal connection to this is illustrated in a new book you have out "a common struggle." it's interesting that the title "a common struggle" one of the stats in my research for the interview, one in four people afflicted with mental health. that's amazing. >> well, it's all of us. this isn't us versus them. this isn't like those people. i would challenge anyone listening to this broadcast to tell me that they don't have a family member who at some point in their life hasn't struggled

isn't currently struggling with a mental halve issue. the common struggle is not that they're struggle. the common struggle is we don't talk about this. it's our mother, father, our sister or brother, our son or daughter, who has untreated mental health or addiction, and what do we too? we tip toe around the issue. we refuse to talk about it. and that is part of the reason why our public policy is so tragic. >> mr. kennedy here just did a panel at drake university, a bipartisan effort. one of the stories you told was about your experience at the green berets. would you tell that illustration here. >> well, you know ex-most of us think about mental health issues as issues of people with really ill, who are really ill and difficult for us to do anything about. as i said, that's a result of the fact that we have ignored

try to help people after they're in crisis. when i visitedded the green berets they had a whole different approach to mental health. they didn't look at it as something you waited to have to address as a disability. they looked at mental health as something you were pre-empting. they liked mental health as something that makes you stronger, so all of us could be stronger, right? so the greenber raise call mental health the force multiplier. that means that they're better at all they've been trained to do, whether it's ballistics, sharpshooters, whether they're demolition experts, no matter what their skill set, our special forces are better -- how can a green beret or navy seal be any better. they're the best of the best. but even they think mental health helps them be even better in the battlefield on behalf of

so, if our green berets and navy seals get mental health, why can't the rest of america benefit from what really

of the best as it is. one of the fascinating parts about the research i've done about your book, you talked about your father possibly suffering from post traumatic stress from the death of his two brothers. talk about that a little bit. >> well, my dad spent his life often criticized for what were seen as character flaws, and i knew from the research i've done on both neuroscience and mental illness that what we accept today as post-traumatic stress, he was suffering from most of his life. if you think about someone having their two siblings violently murdered, because the country can refer to them as assassinations but it was both of his brothers that were murdered, that's

incomprehensible. and the notion today would be that we wouldn't allow someone to not get treatment for post-traumatic stress if they had been through that, let alone two brothers, right after one another. and so -- but he came from a different generation, and that generation looked at mental health issues as medical issues -- as moral issues not medical issues, and they saw it as a character issue as opposed to a chemistry issue. so, he refused to get help, but there wasn't help there to begin with because our country didn't see it as such. we're changing now. but we're not changing fast enough. those old school attitudes that we inherited from our parents are still very much alive and well, and those attitudes say, you can't talk about this issue. you can't whisper about it. it's hear no evil, see know

evil, speak no evil. i if you how have a family member suffering from alcoholism or prescription drug use that's clearly an addiction, no one even talks about it, left alone the scourge of heroin overdo ised we have seen. suicide is the second leading cause of death for 15 to 35 here in iowa. >> wow. >> and it is something that is shocking, that we don't pay more attention to it. >> that generational gap 'er talking about between communication you said your father is not from that generation where you talk about things. one story you're brave to talk about, the 1991 intervention of his drinking. >> yes. >> did not go the way you hoped it would. >> well, never goes the way you help it does most of the time. but you have to try. and it's a difficult

i hope that my book begins a little bit more of an open conversation amongst more families in america because, litten, it wasn't so tough for me. all of my family secrets are in every book in the kennedy book aisle of a book store. they've been written about a million times. if it's tough for me to tell the worst kept secrets out there, imagine what it's like for an average family to begin to discuss these very delicate, quote-unquote, issues. so i hope that there's a

a result of this book. senator huckabee, the united states is sadly number one in mass shoot, what should we do at the government level to stop this violent? >> i don't know the government can do more. the issue is what can we do in our own individual souls to find a greater sense of morality.

one thing we could do is never make them celebrities or heroes. doubts it their names or pictures ever ever on television. don't salivate them to celebrity status, this shooter in oregon is what we wanted and what he got. so he should never be refer to by name, and rather than tinker with the second amendment, we don't want to tinker with the first but do that because it's the responsible thing to do and the sheriff in oregon was dead right. don't give this guy attention he wanted but does not deserve. >> quick followup, senator rand paul mentioned doing away with no gun free zones around schools. thoughts? >> every time we have had a mass shooting and every one that the president referred to happened in a gun-free zone. it probably tells us that if you're going to be a shooter and you want to inflict the most carnage, you'll go to place where they're the least likely resistance, which is a clearly identified gun-free zone.

telegraph and openly declare to potential murderers where they can most do the damage is maybe not the best idea we have ever had. >> you mentioned syrian refugees. what should be do about it. >> we can't take all the syrian refugees. i don't think until we have a better handle on who they are we should be taking them. if we want to provide humanitarian assistance, that's one thing. but one of the things we have already known from the german reports that they looked at the people coming in, only one in five were even syrian. four out of five of them weren't syrian. they were adult men, they had nothing to do with syria. they were making an economic decision to escape. turkey and jordan and a lot of places, but just to say the door is open, everybody come, that's nonsense. that's a suicide on the part of

that. welcome back to "roske on politics."

presidential candidates but every once in a while i'm lucky enough to have someone i know, love, respect, and care about and that this person, marian williamson. what an exciting thing because now you're part of presidential politics. this person, an amazing inspirational speaker, author of countless novels. tonight surrogate speaker for presidential candidate senator bernie sanders. why bernie and what was -- you came to iowa to speak for him. why senator sanders. >> there are great candidates running for the democratic party and whichever one gets the nomination we'll work very hard but i think the biggest question here is electability and i believe senator sanders is the most electable. the fact he is getting the kind of crowds he is getting everywhere he goes is more than he is catching up to someone else. shows how he is touching, getting into a vein, he's the pulse.

millenials and young people. they've had it with the sort of corporate democratic spiel. they don't have the historical memory that i and many people have of a time when democrats laid it down and they don't want to hear it. they like it because he is speaking for the as -- as operation, he speaks to the aspirations of the american people. donald trump wants to make america great again, men of us want to city america be a functioning democracy, have a criminal justice that has justice, and an economy that is fair again. because without those things you're not a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. that very ideal is are particular lated by lincoln is now on the death bed and people know that. so, during this election. the republicans are going to lay it down. don't known which one is going to win but we know what agenda

and that republican -- the extreme republican agenda now in charge of the party creates hardship for people, created hardships for people around the world and people in this country. democrats have got to do more than just address the suffering that is caused. democrats have got to address the fundamental system that makes all that suffering inevitable and that's what the senator speaks to. not the yadda yadda yadda politics. he is laying it down. >> the only candidate that i have heard who has said that, and laid that down, in order to get thousands of people rising

it, is bernie sanders. hi i'm with iowa realty and the sunday home show starts now. welcome to the home show. now 18 to 35-year-olds

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