term, not just each quarter with the corporations. she put a detailed plan about how to focus with changing the -- so company have more of an incentive to focus on jobs for the future in the long-term and not just individual quarters. you saw some of that discussion today. you saw her putting out her plans on pharmaceutical companies, which in my mind happens, you know, leading the bill with senator mccain, safe drugs, leading the bill with senator grassley of iowa. a proposal that senator clinton supports which is making sure you can't have the pay for delay deals. >> i don't know what that is. >> unbelievable thing. you have the pharmaceutical companies actually paying generic drug companies to keep the competitive products out the market. the estimates are that will bring in if we get rid of those

about $3 billion to taxpayers over ten years, and the same amount for consumers, because, of course, they're paying the copays that are too high. so we're working to advance that and senator clinton is supportive of that proposal. >> one of the complex issues that im today up tonight the refugee crisis in lieu of the recreant paris attack. what should we be doing with the refugee crisis? >> i think first of all we l -- the answer is to give a solution to syria. that is complex. i hope given what happened in paris with what the havoc they have been bringing to people, my hope is that it will be at the top of the agenda for the g-20, so that's number one. and in terms of our country bringing in refugees i thought secretary clinton did a very good job of explaining how the vetting process is important and it can take a while. i supported that process, so that's a piece of it, as well.

minnesota but you serve in dc. do you think the district of columbia should be made into a state? >> i've always believed they should have voting represents and have representation in congress. >> thanks for chatting. >> thank you. >> we will become a rich and great nation again. great honor. >> chief negotiating and that's what they did. >> the mention for the last few years have not changed. >> we're chatting with bobby jindal.

>> senator tom harkins. >> we're third and no one expected it. >> any candidate seeking to earn the trust of the presidency of the united states has to come in and engage the people of iowa. >> gingrich, highest ranking democrat in the state of iowa. >> senator joe lieberman. >> senator grassley. >> i think it's boring because

>> whoever the nominee is -- >> i see you're wearing a big h button. how did your candidate did? >> commander in chief, no doubt. i thought they all did very well. it was a good animated strong debate. i'm proud of the democrats, but i'm glad i'm for hillary clinton. i think she proved that she know what it takes to run a country. if you want to convince people where you're going to take them you got to know where you're been. and secretary clinton has been our secretary of state. she has been our senator. she has served in the white house under president clinton for eight years. a woman with talent that i've never seen in any man or woman before running for president. she is ready. >> one of the items that came up tonight, free college tuition. you're a sitting u.s. congressman. do you support it? >> i'm the first in my family to

will tell you there is beauty in hearing people talk about making sure americans who work hard, study, and have the -- prove they deserve it and have the chance to go on to college. they have friends, i think secretary clinton is right. we want to make sure that everyone whether it's donald trump's kids or my kids we all have a chance to send our kids to college. when i was growing up my parents didn't have a lot of money. my dad went to sixth grade. he was a construction worker. aren't too many construction workers today who can say they can send their four kids to college. >> you spend part of your week every week in the district of columbia. do you think it should be a state? >> i absolutely do. there are more than 600,000 u.s. citizens in the district of columbia who are disentrance choiced who can't make a difference when it comes to selecting the president of the

>> thanks for chatting, sir. >> six i had 40,000 americans with no representation. you think this is wrong? you need to contact your senator and tell them you believe in dc state hood.

>> come along with me. >> awarded for -- at the risk of one's own life above and beyond the call of duty.

did, he or she wouldn't expect to work. someone close to the event, personal knowledge of what the individual brings. >> what i learned, they aren't always positive views. many times they are actually reliving the first day. >> the president made the phone

>> based on recommendations -- >> we are going to receive him on executive avenue, about half an hour prior to the opening for the general elections. he will be riding along with his immediate family, up to the east room and see where the medal will be presented. he will be comfortable during the medal presentation to know what he needs to do during the ceremony. he will meet with the president and the first lady in the oval office. what's interesting about that is that's where the president will actually sign the certificate in front of him. and they will come over, come up to the blue room area, and into the east room and they will wait

>> they will read the citation, and the marine corps air will hold the medal during the citation. at the conclusion, the president will take the medal from the middle aid and place it down his neck. >> the unique thing we do at the ceremony is pin the individuals that are actually in battle with him, we look for them. >> i served in the marine corps myself, and i'm awed by the stories. it is amazingwhat people will do in the most dangerous situations where no human would be expected to put themselves.

we are here to thank this man, this united states marine, faced down that terrible force with his own body. >> in the case of carpenter, jumping on -- corporal carpenter, he -- i mean that in itself was -- >> you know, we're still seeing people that -- >> what it comes down to, i like the way he -- i wanted to be a marine first and while my body would allow

and just looking forward and i'm going to try to impact the world and the people around me in the most positive way i can and try

things. >> we're here with senator rand paul. so you mentioned in your remarks you didn't think sending more sold yours into the middle east is potentially the right idea to contain isis. what would you recommend? >> we shouldn't arm isis, we shouldn't arm the allies of al-qaeda and we need to realize that in some ways the foreign policy of regime change has made this worse. so when hillary clinton and marco rubio say we need to topple kadafi in libya, it actually made it worse because when they toppled kadafi we got a failed state, we got the rise of isis and the radical situation of libya. they want the same thing in syria. if assad is gone in syria what

maybe isis controls all of syria. i think we need to rethink what we're doing in the middle east and think before we act. >> people talk about the keystone pipeline but here in iowa the back inpipeline, potentially using eminent domain to get the land, what do you think of that? >> i'm against it. now, i know in iowa they say if it's utility, they can use eminent domain. problem is i'm not sure how you define it as a utility if you're not actually using anything out of that pipeline. my understanding is the pipeline will go all the way under iowa but not like people are taking oil or gas out of that pipeline to use for electricity. it's just a transit. and so i think we should be very weary of using eminent domain. it's a big disagreement i have with donald trump. he believes you should able to take it for parking lots, for casinos, for his business ventures and that's objectionable. if most conservatives knew donald trump was for taking their property for a casino i

thoughts about how much they might want to vote for him. >> you served in washington for several years. do you think the district of columbia should be made into its own state in. >> no. the constitution created the district of columbia and gave it supervision to congress, and i'm for continuing the way the constitution intended it to be. >> thank you so much.

>> have a great day.

and now san bernardino, what can we do to stop isis or is this just going to be the way it is from now? >> as long as isis is a viable state, this is the way it's going to be. frankly, this is the beginning of the way it's going to be. it's going to get worse. as long as isis continues to maintain their integrity, as long as they can say to the radical islamic world, that we are the caliphate, we have to listen to us, we are legitimate under islamic law, we are fighting the great satan, the united states of america, fighting the west, we are maintaining our ground, keep coming back to that. one of the most important parts of understanding how the enemy is under islamic law if they can maintain their territorial integrity, the understanding is that athat a that is blessing them. they maintain their state, that's the 1-2 punch that says

the policy of containment is, in fact, playing right into the hands of what isis wants. you can't contain them. because in containing them you give them legitimacy. what we have to do is defeat them. what we have to do is take land. we need to take all of their land, although ultimately that's what you have to do to defeat them. that's why i said the first thing is to work with the kurds who are willing to fight and capable fighters, same thing with the iraqi sunnies, i would not partner with iran. i would not partner with russia or syria. i would partner with sunni musliming in the middle east, particularly in iraq and the kurds. the muslims -- the sunni muslims in iraq will fight if they have good support from the united states. if they have our folks out there with them, with the technology, with the information, with the leadership skills, they have

will fight if america is at their side. they won't if they don't, if they're not, because they don't have the support necessary to be successful. so i said we need to commit the troops necessary to do that. we can defeat isis. we will defeat isis. when you do that these attacks will stop. >> why haven't we supported -- >> that is the -- he has tremendous experience and knowledge. he's retired officer. and he said repeatedly we need a minimum of 10,000 troops there. we have about 3500 now. >> we're looking at another 6500 troops. most of whom are engaged in providing the kind of support necessary. if they're going to have american troops in those front line units taking the buck, they have to be on the ground with them, particularly when it comes to the sunni iraqis, not as much

we can provide rear support for them the bottom line is we need to be engaged in. we have candidates like rand paul and ted cruz who don't want to be involved and engaged with boots on the ground. they think it's sufficient to bomb. you're not going to take that ground from the air. you have to take that ground from the ground. and it's not going to be pretty a. it's going to be messy, but the alternative is to continue to

here in america today. >> why didn't he win the presidency? >> i think newt is a smart guy, a great innovator. you know, there are some people who are really strong at developing ideas, and coming up with visions, and doing the kind of spitballing and creativity. he is a creator. i think his fall -- his fault probably was just -- as far as

his downfall as the speaker, but there is nobody who has done more, in my opinion, to create -- creative energy of ideas of the conservative movement than newt gingrich. >> your chief strategist the last round was chuck laufner. what are you thoughts on the trump campaign? >> he was my campaign manager. chuck joined the campaign in late november. most people didn't realize that. chuck was a great help to us. i traveled around with me in the truck, and we had a great time together, but as far as the guy that put the game plan together, he's still with me. and he and several congressional campaigns in iowa before that and ran campaigns after.

good friend, and i hope he's having fun in trump land. must be a very unusual place to work. but donald trump is -- he's obviously a very strong personality. he comes across as a strong leader. i think people are attracted to it. they're looking for someone who can be a change agent, someone who can make a difference, and i would just say that there is a big difference between someone who is a ceo and a business world and making deals, and someone who has to sit down with a hundred people in the united states senate, all of whom think they should have your job and have egos to go with it. this is not an easy place. you don't get to tell the senator how to vote. you don't get to tell the house members how to vote. this is a much more difficult task of managing people than a ceo or developer would have. and i think it's a different skill set. i appreciate the skill set he has, and i think he's brought a

he's brought ideas to the campaign and issues that are important, like immigration. i think immigration is one of the issues that divides the republican party, and divides the candidates on -- in this race more than any other issue. you look at a guy like marco rubio and ted cruz who are very pro immigration, all for increased levels of immigration, and you take someone like myself and trump who are on the other side of that issue. so it's a dividing piece in this

up. the sunday home show starts now. good morning, and welcome to the home show. mike pace is my name. here we are in the homestretch of 2015. the next to the last show of the year, yet this market is still in high gear. we're going to talk about historic low interest rates and all kinds of terrific activity. guests here with maybe the