california, doing a little work on our film, hoch you see it when it comes out, about the iowa caucus. this episode of the tv show we'll be chatting with the governor of ohio, john kashich, running for president. and also chat with former government of vermont, howard dean, and his endorsement of hillary clinton all that and more on the "roske on politics." >> we will become a rich and great nation again. a great honor. >> the top one-tenth of one percent. >> what did they conclude? keep negotiating and that's what they did. >> the thing i've been concerned about in this nation for the last few years have not changed. >> we're chatting with chief national correspondent for in the "new york times" magazine. >> governor bobby jindal. >> thank you for having me and my wife in your beautiful home.

>> i love it. >> aloha. >> state senator maria chappelle-nidal. >> you don't even have to win the caucus if you come in a good second or third and no one expected it. >> governor, somebody said, congressman -- >> any candidate who is seeking to earn the awesome and sacred trust of the presidency of the united states has to come and engage with the people of iowa. >> the highest ranking democrat in the state of iowa. >> senator joe lieberman. >> i haven't eaten anything other than the fried snickers. can't describe it. like going to heaven. >> we need to push back at the rnc. at the end of the day brad pitt could be in our debate. >> the first contest. >> a potential clinton-castro

>> whoever the nominee is gets to pick who their vice-president will be. >> very first running, i don't think there was anybody in the race on either side. she was asked, what was her litmus test for a supreme court justice, and the proper answer to that, the politically correct answer is, there isn't one, just the most qualified person, et cetera, et cetera. she said, i have a litmus test and i'll tell you what it is. i will appoint the supreme court justice who opposes citizens united. now, i'll tell you why that's important. most people say that important because we have the koch brothers buying elections, and that's terrible. it is terrible. but that's not why it's important. the message the supreme court gave when they said that money

have lots of money are much more important in america than those that don't. that was a message our economy, under george w. bush, also gave us. we -- the biggest danger in this country is that 80% of the people who have not shared any of the increase in wealth we have created in this country the last 20 years, and the 80% of the people who don't have lots and lots of money and can influence elections, will give up on the estimate this country is a fundamental dream for so many people because in the founding documents it says all of us are created equal. what the court says is, that's not true. those with money are more eannual tan others and hillary realize that's a problem for the done not just because people are buying elections but because it's a message to the american people to give up and hillary clinton is the last person that is going to give up on america, and that's the first reason i

secondly, she is incredibly experienced. we are at a real crossroads. in an hour or maybe she is already up there in minnesota -- she is going to give a speech on terrorism. >> former governor of the state of vermont, howard dean, and presidential candidate. you're here in iowa. do you miss bag candidate. >> not d miss being a candidate? >> not a lot. we're doing six or eight appearance today and there were hundreds of those days in 2003. so i had a lot of fun. been there done that. >> in the opening remarks one of the campaign staff mentioned you basically invented the 50-state strategy and internet came panning. how different than compared to now? >> stuff on the internet is unbelievable. we didn't have facebook or tumblr or tweets. all we basically had was e-mail and a lot of really smart 23-year-olds who i was smart enough to let them do whatever they wanted. >> now, a lot of folks surprised

person, senator sanders. why hillary clinton any i think bernie is a terrific guy and great, but i have been close to hillary for 25 years, actually endorsed her before bernie got in the race. the major ropes are the ones i talked about today. i want somebody with a lot of experience and somebody who can beat the republicans for sure, and i want somebody who cares what the facts are, and i think hillary would be a great president. >> you mentioned her decision to put a supreme court justice up that doesn't support citizens united. why is that important. >> it's the message from the supreme court thatt people who have lots of money are much more important than anybody else. that's not how america was built. a very bad step in the wrong direction. >> you mentioned in your campaigning in iowa is different. >> the work of organizing a caucus can't be done just on television. it has to be done -- very intensive.

votes are, how many votes in each town end up going to the iowa state convention. it's a very methodical, meticulous campaign you have to run and have to know where everything is and pay attention to detail. >> you have been down this road before. there's approximately 40 days left before the actual caucuses. what does your candidate need to do to bring it home. >> she's doing what she is doing, working really hard in iowa, here a lot. coming back tomorrow. just keep doing that. >> former governor of vermont, howard dean, thank you for chatting, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> i'm evan handler a resident of the state of california, as such i get two senators and ang person representing me in washington, dc. senator paul strauss from d.c. tells me those residents get no such representation. >> over 640,000 american citizens kept have voting representation in the house or senate because d.c. is not a state. >> 640,000 americans with no representation. you think this is wrong, please contact your senator and tell

therees a solution. welcome back to "roske on politics." happy as always to be chatting with presidential candidate, for john kashich, can you for signature down. >> thank you. >> i was at your town hall meeting. you came straight from the airport. >> we stopped at john's tack 0 -- john's tacos. >> during the town hall someone asked you what one event made an impact in your life. you told a story about your parents that struck me. >> it's not a story i like to broadcast. i mean, but my parents were killed by a drunk driver and forced me to examine my whole life and my relationship with the lord.

me in many very positive ways, and really gives me credibility to really understand people who go through terrible tragedies. i feel in many ways i can relate to them. so, it's definitely changed me. my parents didn't die in vain. their son got to be a better man as a result of that tragedy. >> did that inform your sense of service? you have devoted -- >> i don't think that. i think it really is just -- i've always been a strong -- didn't change my decisionmaking. what isit really did was just make me a more sensitive to the problems that other people have, and secondly, i have a greater perspective in my opinion, because i know there's a life yet to come and i have a sense

so, it's more personal than it has anything to do with being elected official or -- so i wouldn't say that but i think -- look, why would i even talk about it now? because some people who are watching have lost a spouse, have lost a child, are going through some really painful things, and i've always found, and everybody has to find their way, but i've always found that when you keep things in perspective, when you know that there is a power greater than husband that is in control, it gives you a certain perspective, and as i said last night, it doesn't take away the pain. it just may give you a little perspective, and my message is,

come up, and if you ever kind of were somebody that was a faithful person, whatever religion you're in, this is a time to try to rely on that. if you don't have it, if you have lost it for many years, this is a time to get it back. and -- because what you don't want to do through all that -- it is so hard -- is to carry the weight of that on your shoulders, on your back, for the rest of your life. i can remember a person i knew whose son died in an auto accident, and for all of her lifetime she sort of felt guilt about it, and that would have been -- it just is natural to cling to some of this, and for whatever reason, i've been given the grace and been released from any of the -- i've just been

healed. >> i appreciate the fact you asked me this question is this is not about me. this is about somebody who may be watching. you have to get all the pain out. you have to tell people what hurts. and because if you don't, it will come out, and it needs to come out fully, and when you're a grown man or a grown woman, it's good to cry like a baby. and -- but i also believe that there's a lord above all of us who somehow allows these things to happen, but we're sort of taught in a way that all things ultimately work to the good for those that love god, and i just -- i believe it and i don't believe it because i was looking for some rabbit's foot. i spent many years of my life now, 28 years of my life, trying to in in the early years, trying

believe, and so i took it all apart, and in the thing i was pretty rough on people who were believers because of what happened, and what did i really think? but it's been a -- the most

in, and along with my family. welcome back to "roske on politics." sitting here with governor john kashich. you did some time in the house, and you did a thing -- you balanced the budget. how do you do that? where do you start? it seems like an impossibility. people don't talk this way now. >> i know. the way you do it is you have to look at all the operations of government and you cannot play favorites and you figure out what don't we need, what can we privatized, what can be improved, and we live in a world where prices can go down and quality can go up, so that's always the way we look at it.

if you're not in politics to change the world, i don't know what you're doing in it. so, for me -- you have a lot of obstacles. people will be mad at you because you're disrupting their program but you do the best you can at staying intellectually hospital. no one here is a saint but do the best you can, and then people will normally go along. now, i do it only because it leads to job creation. i'm not interested in balancing a budget. it sound boring. if you do that, you can have an explosion of economic growth. and jobs are the biggest issue. >> right now we're looking at $18 trillion deficit. now, this may sound like a foolish question, but does that mean something? is it panic time? do we have to fix that or can it just stay on the books. >> you have to pay. people owe the debt. people are owed money because of the debt.

what we need to do now is start getting in a direction of where people can feel as though we can actually balance a budget, because what that does is it provides certainty. certainty to the job creators. when job creators know the ground is not going shift under them, more taxes, more regulations, then they're more willing to invest. when there's this uncertainty out there, they're just going to sit on their wallets and we can't have that. so i've seen it happen in washington, and it's happened in ohio, where we're up almost 400,000 jobs in ohio. and it involves tax cuts. you hadn't to have a stimulation of the economic but in washington, when we did the budget agreement, which now people don't even think happened, but when we did it, we paid down almost a half a trim dollars -- trillion dollars of the public debt.

a little community, a city. >> we spoke briefly, you mentioned you know now speaker of the house paul ryan. >> he was an aide to somebody on the budget committee. here's paul ryan's frustration of. the job of speaker is a job of bringing diverse groups together. paul's fundamentally a policy guy, and i think that's really critical because he can turn the ship in a certain direction. but his frustration is going to be that, as the speaker, sometimes he went be able to cling to the policy us a much as he would like to, and i saw newt gingrich go through that. one reason i never wanted to be a speaker because you have to give up your strongest held beliefs in order to make sure you can get things through, but

good ideas and ability to not fall totally in love with all the things the believes, and i know how strongly he believes in things. he'll have more success. the frustration will come when people will not understand his vision or they're afraid of his vision. that's the challenge. >> we're here in the iowa capital rotunda -- >> by the way, i don't think anybody else has ever said this. >> what's that? >> i've studied these speaker positions. i was very close to newt, and i'm very -- very close to boehner. so, making that observation is really, really interesting. if you want to be a speaker, you got to give a lot of yourself. if not, you will build factions against you and you won't last. it's an interesting point of view but i think it's very accurate. >> so many talking heads say you'll never be president because a speak -- >> i don't agree with most -- i

of -- talking heads get paid to talk. doesn't mean they have to know what they're talking about.

somebody listened. >> so, this is wheat really interesting. see these little cameras? used to be on television that they had, like, really big cameras, and now they've got these little cameras. >> you're watching. >> "roske on politics." >> thanks, guys. >> you'll be on tv now. >> thank you.

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