>> the questions are going from ray rice did to what those in power did next, cot nfl commissioner lose his job, let's get the inside story. good morning i'm tamala edwards, welcome to inside story, let's introduce you to the panel, first up, i'm glad to say good morning to brian tuny. and ajay raju, and ed turzanski and christine flowers. first of all we saw roger goodell saying i didn't know. we had a conversation it was ambiguous, he didn't tell me this, even though we know there

was a police report, they spoke to reporters. then two things come out this week, a law enforcement source said i sent a tape to somebody back in june. now sources close to rice are saying he told him face-to-face in that meeting they are putting ray out to dry, he knew. now the question is as robert mural comes on to -- muller comes on to investigate, the former head of fbi, can roger goodell hold on to his job. >> through the most part through his whole career he's controlled the situation. when you're at advising somebody what you tell them, let's get to the bottom of the whole story and see how all these pieces play out. i think what happened there, nobody probably had the courage to say to him, roger that's not the case, don't say it this way.

he would have been better off if he had gotten to the punch line day one. there's a lot of money at stake and power, inside the nfl people don't want to tell roger goodell he is wrong. >> could this be a case of plausible deny ability. >> your job is to uncover the bad news, you can't say i'm the ceo in good times and in bad times play the sergeant shultz of hogan's heros, i see nothing. >> we mentioned ray rice and janay riles at the begin -- rice at the beginning, and now it's a story about goodell.

what about the coverup of economies domestic violence. i wrote about this, we are taking the sound into it approach we're ache -- sound sod byte approach. there's a radio show that said we're vilifying black men, when you look at happened to michael vick and ray rice. what did he know and when did he know it. i don't think we're focusing on the societial problem we're pungt and making it -- punting and making it more about the media, the public want the easy

sound byte and somebody fed to the lions. >> i have to take issue with that. but we have a tape where we're talking about, a man punches a woman and she is laid out like a sack of potatoes. there's a lot we don't know. i think it is understandable how the media would look at this tape, and say how could the envelope, they have security on -- the nfl they have security experts on this, how did they not know about this. ful fed said this is a question for the panel. fed said what's a proper punishment. you don't play all season, you looks like that money. i think people would have said he took this seriously. the question was coffee avoided -- could he have avoided by a different outcome.

>> i think he could have avoided it, because you speak to the bottom line. it's starting to look like willful ignorance. it's starting to look like casa blanca, i'm shocked, shocked this place is gambling. we find out oh, by the by, the policemen said you did have the tape and rices people are saying he did tell you this, roger why didn't you say that when you were making your mea culpa. that makes it worse. he is in a very bad place. heals made more than one statement and he has to keep on adding to it. >> ajay does he survive.

>> i think right now there's such political and societial pressure when you're under that type of scrutiny i don't know if he survives. going back to christine's point, christine is talking about there is 1.3 million women who are subject to domestic violence abuse, 2.5 if you talk about men and women together. 26 people on average in philadelphia die from domestic abuse. if this conversation sheds light on -- 1.3 million reported by the way i'm sure it's bigger than that. this would be good for society. whether roger goodell survives it's for the sports industry, the picture of the philadelphia phillies who was publicly caught in a domestic violence situation

he wasn't even benched, played. there's two athletes who had no discipline and they are playing. >> it's for the money. >> there's hash tags why i left, why i stayed. it's pushed the conversations into different place. people wonder why did you stay it's pushing this in place keeping this alive, versus ten years ago, where the story would come and go. >> ajay, thank you, brought up, as well, victim, whydy stay, i have known many victims. domestic violence, a number of them have been men because i've filed petitions against immigrant men to be protected against their citizens wives. it's important that we push it into that realm of what do you

do. how do you deal psychologically with a woman or man who feels like a stockholm syndrome tide to the batterer. it has to do with money, that's the sex thing. you're taking about a high-profile athlete. the meat of the issue how do we stop this from happening how do we protect the victims and it doesn't come to our attention when it's joe sch. schmo. >> people are wandering why was ray rice allowed to go into the pretrial intervention program. it's supposed to to be people who do nonviolent, shoplifting, small things, yet he was put

into the program. the ac prosecutor said listener it was a first time offense, he would have gotten this or probation, even though they could have been a five year charge. >> on assault? >> on assault? >> many people are wandering, why did you put him into the program. did he do the right thing saying i'm going to avoid the court cost. was in the the case of celebrity fame or money getting something you or i wouldn't have gotten? >> it's hard to argue that it wasn't the ladder. but law enforcement very often when they want to make a point, remember rudy giuliani popularized perp walks, he would take these guys out in handcuffs showing that this person was charged with a serious crime. i had a prosecutor do the same

case where someone from pennsylvania came had a gun. >> legally. >> with two children in the car and she told the police and was arrested and they threw the book at her. >> you know why, i bet you ray rice and the people around him in the nfl got him the right lawyer who knows what to say. >> absolutely. >> it's about power. >> the only color that matters is green. >> fame is a double edged sword. we wouldn't know about ray rice if he was joe schmo. >> it's difficult to defend this guy, he deserves everything he has. because of his fame and the salary he had the punishment was severe, he loss 3 years of a 35 million-dollar contract. he paid $9.3 million. >> he'll never play again in the nfl. >> i don't know about that.

>> things have been left as the prosecutor set it up, he would have gone through a 12-month program had the charges dropped and paid a fine, he would not have lost all that money. the question becomes how -- did the prosecutor do the right thing. >> if he was the ceo of a publicly traded company he would have had the same outcome. >> this is the ncaa george mitchell came out saying they made a lot of strides let's lift the post game ban and reinstate their all scholarships they will be on the hook for the 60 million-dollar fine and pa pa turn notice victories were not logged on the books. does it put focus on fixing the

culture. >> i think the penalties unfairly focused on individuals who had no complicity in the jerry sandusky crimes. there were kids who were given the opportunity to move to other colleges scholarships, play, and they chose to stay, that is an honorable thing. i think the ncaa, i don't want to give them too much credit, to some extent they noticed that. there are innocent people here. i'm thrilled that they are bowl eligible. >> let's do a lightning round on two other subjects, sports betting in ac. governor christie says you can have it in the casinos and the hotels. does this help this ailing city to have sports betting where they want, this doesn't matter it's too late? >> first of all none of these

are panaceas. i want to say we represent poker stars it's an online gaming hoping to come to new jersey. all these thins are additive to helping to solve a problem. the issue is for atlantic city to focus on the ocean, it has the proximate intimidate -- proximity to philadelphia and new york. it can't be all about gambling. >> vagas mecca, 1% goes to atlantic city. it has to be a family spot, until then there's no hope. >> in philadelphia, alan came out and said we could do the same thing. is he on point we should leave

one to do business travel and one to do regulatory. >> i think you have to look back on why this was done, it was because the convention and visitors bureau did a great job in terms of convention, burr the tour -- but the individual tourism bureau was being ignored. it seems like it's working out well. they have gotten the convention center straint out and moving -- straightened out and moving in the right direction, i think there's other areas you could find savings in billions of dollars. we're finding out a chief financial officer embezzled money and they went to another nonprofit. does this cast a pall over that

organization if the d.a.'s office hadn't gotten involved we wouldn't know about it. we're reading what everybody else is reading same time. i think that i've heard of other organizations that have monies that are embezzled and report them. i don't know what the duties are for this kind of a quasi. people have to think what is the final part of the show, if this is an issue of a coverup, the coverup is worse. rip the bandage off. >> look at the ray rice issue. >> that brings

>> welcome back i'm tamala edwards, this is inside story. the president came out in front of the nation this week and talked about isis what to do with this terrorist group, islamic terrorist group in the middle east. 475 more advisers on the ground in iraq. trying to do more airstrikes in yemen and mali. and arming what they call moderate rebels. the republicans are on board and others were on board, ed when i read about this, i thought about the germ german frp expert who

said -- foreign policy expert who said where are are the arms going? >> utsd he spoke to the -- you said he spoke to the nation, but the lack of details were missing. the british and the germans said well not bomb syria. and the arab states were reluctant to get involved. we'll be behind the scenes and train you and you do the flying and you can be on the ground doing the heavy lifting and people are not confident there's a plan that will support troops on the ground so they will be effective. and the administration in too many instance, has been on both sides of the issue. the president originally talked about these moderate fighters in

syria as inadequate. he said it was a fantasy to thank that lawyers, doctors and pharmacists and the like could fight against assad. instead of giving them light arms we want to give them tanks. people are not confident that we thought this through. >> the same person on your side today may be fighting with isis tomorrow? >> the day before 9/11 a year ago, the president spoke said we're going to bomb assad and i want congress to come and give me approval to do that. a year later he said i'm going to bomb the people that assad would like us to bomb and i don't need congress' approval. this is constitution that borders and incould --

incoherence. >> when the president was campaigning, he said there's a light at the end of the tunnel. now we know it was an oncoming train. if you're on antibiotics you don't stop on day 3, you have to kill it because when it comes back it's a different strain. >> we were in afghanistan and iran, we pulled out, and now we're back with what we thought was the most horrible folks in the world, today they look like boy scouts compared to isis. >> the president said draw the red line with assad, he said if he uses chemical weapons we'll go in. he used chemical weapons and we didn't go in. i understand not wantings troops

back on the ground, but you can't do this in halfs. >> he thinks he can do what bill clinton did in kosovo and we'll bomb at 50,000 feet we'll be fine. isis first thing -- figured out, they are doing what hamas did, you'll have civilian casualtieses. >> quinnipiac poll out this week looking at the governor's race, corbett is 24 points down behind tom would feel. is it -- tom wolf. is it enough or too late? >> no it's not too late. else the only guy who taught in public school went to public school and he should be talking about this contanlt stanltly --

constantlily. the blue is state funding for education, you can see it's up under him. what he doesn't point out well enough is that the red part is the federal stimulus money. it's like your family won $25,000 in a contest. you wouldn't say i'm betting i'll win 25 grand every year and change your lifestyle. in parts of the state they used that money for fixing the roofs, doing important things, here they threw it into salaries and when that goes away they call it a cut. he has spent more money than rendell in education. >> why didn't he do that in january. >> you know, what, ink the governor is -- i think the governor is not the best campaigner. i think he is a terrific governor. >> in politics you have to -- >> he should have hired brian

tierny. >> there's a group of parents who sued the department of education. when he wants to talk about this and you have a local suit in the part of the state he needs. does this knock his legs out from under him. these are the facts. state funding for education is up. there's the number. >> give him a call, the governor would like your black .

>> welcome back let's get to our lightning round of inside stories, let's start with you brian. >> this past week, 15 schools, elementary schools opened up,

4500 kids all none catholic, really good news, independence mission schools. >> this wednesday, scotland votes a 300 year union with great britain may come to an end. it's absolutely fantastic in the sense that we never would have expected it would come to this. >> hagas for all. america's first zoo and the finest zoo in the world. we've broken a record. the zoo 350 is the most innovative zoo in the entire world. >> if you're caught smoking pot in public, you'll not be arrested you'll be issued a citation and have to pay 100-dollar fine, i think somebody is smoking something. >> we'll see how that works out. >> do we think the pgw gets

sold? we're waiting on the report. >> i don't think it happens in the form that it is in right now. >> i don't think so either there's too much power to play. >> we'll keep an eye on that, we'll see you back here next sunday, i'm tamala edwards. thank you for joining us on inside story. it makes me happy to go on the computer.

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