worse, it's happening on one of the busiest travel days of the year, our meteorologist is keeping an eye on this storm, cecily tynan will keep an eye on where you are, and watching the system. >> i'm seeing a lot of winter storm advisories and watches across the eastern seaboard, it gives you an idea of how many people are affected if are you traveling the day before thanksgiving, it spans a good 1,000 miles from north carolina and as far north and eastwards to areas in maine. we'll show you stormtracker 6 live double scan, we are tracking this low pressure off the west coast of florida, and it will make its way up the eastern say board in a northeast direction, we'll talk about storm tracker 6 and time out for precipitation on the way. it arrives in the form of rain for most locations. as the storm system intensifies

and strengthens it pulls down cold air from the north and we find accumulating snowfall from the north and west in the height of this storm system. still some mixing going on in the city. we break down the change over from rain to snow, in the northwest suburbs at 9:00 a.m. on wednesday, right along the i-95 corridor 1:00 to 4:00 in the afternoon and delaware and south jersey mostly rain for you. the question is, how do you get snow when we have temperatures in the 70s and record warmth yesterday and relatively colder air today. cecily has more on that. >> that is what makes this forecast tricky, yesterday 72 degrees and temperatures now are in the 50s, 54 in philadelphia, and 52 in allentown and 53 in millville and future tracker showing even tomorrow as the precipitation is here and we are getting the change over, temperatures are above freezing

at the surface. don't expect a severe icing situation but there will be a change over to snow from the colder air in the atmosphere. tomorrow if are you traveling along the i-95 corridor, it will mainly be wet and not white however if you are traveling to the northwest suburbs this is where you get the slushy accumulations during the day and with the warm air, these are not the light and fluffy snowflakes, these are the big wet, snowflakes. the big problem is visibility today and tomorrow. breaking down the northwest suburbs, we have winter storm warnings posted and this is where you get the heavy, wet snow and not a concern for the roads, you get 4 inches of snow on the tree branches and they can be pulled down. if you live near pottstown undoning town, and areas west, be prepared for power outages,

it begins as rain and changing to wet snow, a slushy accumulation on the wet surfaces, south jersey and delaware, windy and wet, once 2 inches of snow, and mainly a rain event and melissa magee will talk about the accumulations will you live coming up in the full accuweather forecast. with all the rain and snow we are expecting tomorrow, it will be a challenge for travelers trying to get to thanksgiving celebrations, it could make for quite the mess at philadelphia airports even people trying to get out on trains. john rawlins is live now at 30th street station, people are already changing their plans because of the weather tomorrow. >> the biggest impact is on drivers, almost 90% of folks will be driving and so that said the trains will be crowded and we'll see how the weather impacts them. the airlines are making it easy

for people to change their reservations, before the expected storm or after the expected storm. given the forecast, ohio bound travellers changed. >> just to get out because of weather. >> the weather is moving in and it could be a long, slow day tomorrow? >> yes, and i don't want to be stuck here. >> though have waived cancellation fees during the duration of the storm. he planned a wednesday drive north and that has changed. >> i'm suppose to go to new york tomorrow, but i'm leaving today. >> to get a jump on the weather. >> yes. >> speaking of the cell phone lot, if you are coming to the airport use it, don't wait by the shoulders, it's expected that the police will be out in frs. >> the police will be more vigilant to make sure that people do not wait on the

shoulders to wait. go to the cell phone lot that, is what it is for. waiting. >> long lines of passengers lining up and passenger trains are rolling in what they expect to be a record day. >> moving anywhere within the system here over the next couple of days, it's availability, a lot of trains are filled up and if they aren't they likely will be soon. >> the trains are the least impacted by 2 to 4 inched of accumulation, as for the airport there are a lot of variables here. when the storm arrives and how cold it is, when it rains and if it does bring snow, and as for the road, ditto, it will all be on timing when the storm arrives in this area. john rawlins, channel 6 "action news." >> all right john thank you. "action news" will bring you updates on the storm with

extended coverage and the morning team will be on 30 minutes early, tune in at 4:00 a.m., for the latest here on 6 abc. >> all right alicia now to the developing story out of ferguson, missouri, part of the city is in ruin after protests broke out last night. buildings were burned down and demonstrators broke store windows and looted. >> after the decision came not to indict darren wilson in the shooting of michael brown people came out to protest. >> reporter: his actions triggered outrage from coast-to-coast. and today for the first time, officer darren wilson is talking publically about the day he shot unarmed teenager, michael brown, telling george stephanopoulos,

that while he is sorry he would not have done anything differently. he remains in hiding after hearing that a grand jury decided not to indict him. the decision sparked protests. they burned businesses to the grown and threw rocks and bottles at police and officers responded with tear gas, today disgust and disbelief as the community comes together to patch up some of the destruction. >> i'm disappointed. i'm very disappointed. >> and michael brown's family expressed their own disappointment. >> we object purposefully and as loudly as we can, on behalf of michael brown jr.'s family that this process is broken. >> many are concerned that there could be more rioting tonight.

saying that there will be more police and national guard troops on the street. in ferguson, missouri, channel 6 "action news." >> people in philadelphia continue to gather in protest, to this decision made in ferguson, the demonstrations have been mostly peaceful and only a few arrests have been made. lets go live now to chopper 6 hd over north broad street where more than 100 people continue to walk down north broad, they began at city hall and they are continuing the move. lets look now at live ground pictures, this is within the crowd of protesters, and also in that crowd is our reporter, david henry, he is live with the very latest. >> reporter: yes, the protesters about 300 of them gathered here in dillworth park next to city hall before they started marching up broad street, there is still a lot of residual

protesters to what they say is a miss carriage of justice. >> about a dozen people gathered at noon today, and they say the case may be close in the missouri but it remains a federal investigation. they stood outside of the federal courthouse urging them to press on and bring charges against officer darren wilson. >> the only time you have a fair trial is when the federal government gets involved. >> when you go back to slavery and even today it's the federal government. >> protesters took to the streets after the ferguson decision came down and they tried to march on to 95 to stop traffic and one protester was

arrested during the failed attempt. mayor nutter had praise for the way police and protesters handled themselves throughout the night. and they blamed the violence in ferguson on the police press enand their use of tear gas. >> did not hear any explanation and more importantly, justification for why that young man was shot ten times. >> an explanation that these protesters are looking for towards cecil b. moore avenue. you'll recall that that is the location 50 years of the race riots in philadelphia of 1964, those riots lasted for three days and then finally brought

under control and peace was restored through cecil b. moore, that street one known as columbia avenue was named after cecil b. moore and that is where the protesters are headed now voicing their contempt of the decision not to prosecute officer darren wilson. >> david thank you. >> as marcy gonzales told us a few minutes ago, officer wilson is speaking out for the first time to george steph nop laws, officer wilson said he would not have done anything differently and his conscious is clear. you can watch that on world news with david muir. and our coverage of the fallout in ferguson continues on 6abc.com. we'll have the latest updates and photos and videos of the unrest there, you can find our coverage of the piece.

protests of philadelphia and the reaction of those upset by the decision including the mayor as you heard find it all online at 6abc.com. >> coming up on "action news" at 4:00, yogurt is good for you, but if are you watching your waistline, you should choose wisely. ali gorman has the diet detour details. and a local none introduces a delicious cranberry sauce helping the homeless find job. alicia vitarelli goes in the kitchen with sister mary and all the go work that that delicious sauce does.

yogurt is a grace source of calcium and pro biotics but not all yogurts are created equal, some can detour your diet. ali gorman is at the big board with tips to choose the healthy yogurt. >> when it comes to yogurt, the

biggest culprit of turning a healthy snack into an unhealthy snack is added sugar. anything flavored likely has added sugars, that is one thing to consider, and another is protein. >> head into the dairy aisle in the grocery store and the yogurt options can be dizzying. >> you can have it for breakfast, lunch, snack. >> marcia from wegmans says that with so many brands to choose from can you add an unhealthy option. >> this includes most yogurts with fruits on the bottom. >> most of it is added sugar. >> she says that fruit on the bottom yogurt is not a complete diet detour but not the best option. to compare first look at the

sugar on your favorite brands of plain yogurt and then look at how much is in your flavored version. >> should you add your own fruit. >> next up is greek yogurt, most can have as many as 15 grams of protein, making it a good afternoon snack to keep hunger at bay. >> it's usually double the amount of protein in a greek yogurt. >> she gives greek yogurt a green light. >> soy options are a good choose. >> the disadvantage to an almond yogurt is that it doesn't have as much protein in it. >> other brands are popping up in the dairy aisle. >> this is a treat -- >> many are loaded with sugar, so watch out some have saturated fat. >> if are you trying to watch

your weight go for the light yogurt. most light yogurts have 80 calories and with vitamin d and proteins it's a good option. >> they typically have artificial sweeteners, that say personal preference new don't mind them. the organic greek plain is a good option and you can add your on fruit, if you don't like that, a good rule of thumb is to track your added sugars through the day. the recommended amount for women is 24 grams and for men 26 grams, some yogurts have a half a days work in just 6 ounces. >> not all yogurts are created equal. >> that is right. thanks ali. time now for the "action news" traffic report. >> your rush has already begun,

matt pellman is tracking it. >> we can already tastes the turkey. from the diet detours to the roadway detours, brian and shirleen, a segue, heaven for us, here on broad street they just reopened it, the protesters continued north towards temple university and are near parish street. that portion of broad is blocked but in this area by the vine street expressway broad is reopened. by if you are headed north towards temple university stay on the numbered streets. >> it's a busy afternoon, on the schuylkill expressway, we have a couple of accidents, one eastbound by the conshohocken curves and one on theontgomery off ramp. and speeds in the teens towards the scene and a crash in

newcastle on 141 has cleared and some backing up on 295 towards the delaware memorial bridge. lets grab the ipad on this tuesday afternoon. in newtown buck county look out for the animals in the road on yardley road. >> thank you. "action news" at 4:00 continues after this.

well, just about everybody wondering about how much snow and wind we will be getting tomorrow? >> melissa magee is here with more. stormtracker 6 live double scan radar showing you the beginning of that off the coast of the sunshine state in florida, up the eastern seaboard, we are tracking the precipitation, we are showing you the winter weather advisories, we winter weather advisory on the i-95 corridor, and the pink shaded

coun counties and the winter storm warning for locates turning over to snow, they go into affect as early as tomorrow. $5 $55s outside. but in the temperatures will drop down to the 40s and 30s and more specifically we'll find the change over to the cooler temperatures. 54 in sea isle city. here is satellite 6 along with action radar this is what we are tracking in the area of low pressure that once again becomes the storm. by wednesday we track the precipitation. so future tracker 6 shows you as the storm begins, across the delaware and lehigh valies, 6:00 tomorrow morning it begins in the form of rain. as the storm system intensifies it is able to generate colder air from the north.

all the way down to lancaster, you'll in the from philadelphia that mix is taking place. we'll have snow from the poconos to lancaster and the mixing line moving to the south in burlington county and points south and west. the storm system quickly races off by 8:30-9:00 tomorrow night this precipitation starting to push offshore. well, for south jersey and delaware, it looks to be mainly rain, but as you head inland on the i-95 corridor. keep in mind this storm system is coming during the heart of the day, that is when we expect the brunt of the storm, it's hard to pick up accumulations, we have snowfall accumulation on the way, it's going to put a cap on the amount of snowfall we see

to the west, up through reading and kutztown and allentown and easton, and up through the poconos 6 plus as early as tomorrow. on wednesday rain is changing to wet snow and a high temperature of 40 degrees and for thursday it will dry out but a chilly day up to just 42 degrees and friday it's cold a high of 39 and 43 as we get into saturday. we'll update you on the changes coming up. >> the buzz is coming up n.

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"action news" continues with meteorologist, adam joseph, shirleen allicot and brian taff. details on a center city lawyer charged in a child sex trafficking ring. >> and two teens die in a parked car, what officers are saying about a tragic accident that changed the lives of a couple. and the story of dogged determination, how a single meatball brings a stray to a forever home. and the story from accuweather, right now winter weather watches and advisories are issued from north carolina to maine. and of course that includes us. this as a massive nor'easter heads for some of the big of the

cities on the east coast just as millions of people head out for the thanksgiving holiday. for the timing and how much snow to expect. melissa magee is live at the big board. >> it's not the best timing with this storm, people will be on the roads for traveling. as you seele stormtracker 6 live double scan, if you are in washington, d.c. or our region or heading to new york city, or areas in new england, you will probably be affected and impacted by this storm. on stormtracker 6 live double scan you can see the area of low pressure off the florida seaboard, and it collects moisture from the gulf of mexico, and the eastern seaboard. from 3:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m., this begins as rain in most

locations, 3:00 tomorrow afternoon you'll notice heavy snow north and west and rain south and east. 6:00 to 9:00 tomorrow it ends as flakes from the east to west locations. if you are traveling tomorrow, you'll find some traveling delays and disruptive travel as well. reduced visibility is also a concern. also, if are you in areas on i-295, slushy north and east and i-278, all the winter storm watches and advisories coming up in a bit. >> thank you melissa. the "action news" morning team is on earlier tomorrow with the latest on the approaching storm. join tam and karen for the updates on the snow tune in at 4:00 a.m. for the latest here on 6 abc. and if you haven't already be

sure to download our 6 abc storm tracker app, you'll have access to live radar and watches and warnings, it is free for your iphone and android devices. turning now to the relative calm and the fury of ferguson overnight. set police cars ablaze and hurls rocks and bottled at officers that responded with tear gas. this for the decision not to indict officer wilson for the shooting of michael brown back in august. i told abc news he is sorry but would not do anything differently. >> the brown family spoke through their attorney. >> we object purposefully and loudly on behalf of michael

brown as family that this process is broken. >> ferguson is calling in national guard troops in case there are more protests tonight after the mayor today criticized him for not calling in the national guard soon enough. now live over this protest that is going on for the last couple of hours in center city philadelphia, it has grown as we are watching, some 300 protesters on the ground now and on the move, starting at city hall, they made a couple of lapped around city hall and now they are at broad and cecil b. moore where they are protesting the decision not to indict officer wilson, it's peaceful protest so far, as are all the protests in philadelphia and across the region. we'll keep our eye on this, it has traffic implications and we'll have more on that coming up shortly. now to chester county where a community is mourning the death of a young couple, state

police believe that dalton and -- died of carbon monoxide poisoning inside of a car this weekend. as troopers continue to investigate what happened, those that loved the teens are banding together to cope with the sudden loss. vernon odom is live in avondale with more. >> reporter: a horrible tragedy here in rural county. these students dalton and carly were put together by school mate who's are remembering them ever so fondly. the two perished after pulling over saturday night. they were inside of this wagon coming home from a movie and were overcome by carbon monoxide. the community is shocked and

grieving. >> it hit us hard but united us in a kind of way but we are hoping things go back to normal. >> they were both very active and very well loved kids on their teems and the coaches are broken up about things. they are not aware that the carbon monoxide, the silent killer is leaking from the car from the silent exhaust, the gas tank had run until empty, there is no sign of foul play or suicide. >> it was something not expected to happen, the odds are astronomical, i can't imagine, it truly was difficult to comprehend. >> grieving students held a vinl vigil to mourn collectively. >> we said our good-byes but i didn't think that would be our

final good-byes. >> the funerals will be wrapped around the thanksgiving holiday. the young man tomorrow and the young lady on saturday afternoon and late saturday morning. vernon odom, channel 6 "action news." >> vernon thank you. an attorney at a center city law firm is accused of paying for sex with a 14-year-old forced in prostitution, he allegedly contacted the girl's captors and paid to visit her at his office on numerous occasions and he was aware of her young age. >> believe there are a special place in hell for a man like brian meehan that rapes 12 and 14-year-old girls. >> his attorney says his client is innocent of the charges and in the meantime, a german town couple are charged with forcing that girl and four others into

prostitution. their names are held until the grand jury investigation wraps up. philadelphia mayor nutter invited the onners of several stores that no longer sell tobacco products to city hall, they have implemented the change in a desire to help the community. any store that stops selling cigarettes and chewing tobacco gets a certificate in their recognition. one group is putting a patriotic thanks into thanksgiving. we put out thousands of thanksgiving items, a homeless shelter for veterans stopped to pack up the items, it will all go to vetted trying to get back on their feet. and in delaware people will have turkey dinners and all the

fixins, they partnered with several cools for the food drives. they made sure everything was ready to go before delivering the meals today. if are you looking to add a fresh edition to your holiday meal, a local nun is cooking up a sweet, tart, and now famous cranberry sauce for charity. we watched sister mary at the library for culinary arts center where they are making cranberry sauce for the holiday. >> we start with beautiful fresh cranberries from new jersey. >> this is a classic that sister mary is making for years. >> we add apple cider from lancaster county. >> it was such a hit for the holidays, her friends recommended she bottle it and sell it. playfully named sister mary's

cranberry sauce. this is the third year of production and they are busy making 4,000 jars. >> all the proceeds of the sales goes to create more jobs for people who were or are homeless. >> people like reginald young. >> i was addicted to drugs and alcohol and my life was going down. >> he was living in a subway stake. >> i met sister mary one night. >> he is thankful for that night and his job with project home. >> not to look down with someone but look down to help lift that person up. it's a blessing. >> he is one of ten employees now making and jarring sister mary as now famous recipe and stocking the shelves of specialty stores like fair market. >> it's sinfully delicious for

thanksgiving. >> if i don't eat it first. find out where to buy sister mary's sinfully delicious cranberry sauce. >> a great lady. thank you alicia. a ferocious sound is making a come back at the cape may county zoo, the roaring of lions will be heard there once again. the pair just relocated from six flags in jackson township to replace the lion that died at 6 years old. they say they missed that residence and while they are not big enough to produce a big growl, but soon they will be big enough to be heard from five miles away. >> keep it five miles away. >> coming up a new way to fight

aging without surgery. it attacks the wrinkled from the inside out. >> and a story that tugs at your heart strings. a racing team going through south america show a dog a kindness and wind up with a companion that could not shake. "action news" at 4:00 continues next.

a new way to fight wrinkles without surgery it's the inside out surgery. targeted with a laser through the mouth. it forces the interior tissue to contract and that smooths out the exterior creases on the side of the mouth without injections or going under the knife. other doctors remain skeptical,

doctors say that patients will see better use from lasers directly on the skin. now a story about a stray dog named arthur, for the king, he followed a sports team to the finish line in the rain forest in ecuador. swedish athletes were competing sitting down for a meal and they were approached by arthur, the dog so touched, he refused to leave their side, standing by them through strenuous journey through mud, sweat and tears and he stood by them the whole time and when it became time to canoe, he jumped in and swam besides them and went to the finish line, four members of

team and five, arthur. that team was grateful for the moral supof ar nur. >> an amazing companion. lets get another check of the roads now. matt pellman with an update. >> a lot of bad timing going on this week brian and shirleen. people are getting an early start on their holiday trips, and now they can't get on the northeast extension of the pennsylvania turnpike, a route that people use because of a vehicle fire right behind this tractor trailer, one is on fire at this point. an suv is behind it. the flames have really been jumping up, a small explosion, a moment ago, this is 476, just north of the mid county toll plaza, if you are heading towards quakertown you are going this bay and eastbound from the pennsylvania turnpike, that entrance is just up ahead.

at this point, no traffic on the blue route northbound is able to get on the northeast extension or the turnpike, i would do so via 309 or valley forge and 202. we keep watching the flames from the suv fire jumping up behind the tractor trailer here in plymouth meeting this afternoon. the crash on the turnpike eastbound, it's a stop and go right in both directions and chopper 6 hd remains high in the sky of philadelphia, the protest continues on north broad street by temple university and cecil b. moore avenue. stay on the numbers streets instead. we'll check it again in the 5:00 hour. >> thank you matt. and meteorologist, melissa magee with the exclusive accuweather seven-day forecast coming up next.

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meteorologist, melissa magee along 72 yesterday? >> we had a new record 72, today relatively mild. there is a way for that to happen and i'll let you know. stormtracker 6 live double scan showing you that it's dry right now, no issues with precipitation but as you get into the overnight hours you'll see the arrival of the rain but as we go through the day on wednesday, it will change to wet snow. as we look we have the winter weather advisory, and the pink shaded counties here, we have a winter weather advisory from lancaster, rain is changing to wet snow on wednesday as we track the coastal storm working its way to the coastal seaboard. 54 in philadelphia, now we are

down in the 50s as we get into wednesday and temperatures in the 40s and upper 30s, and with that a change overfrom the rain to the snow. mostly cloudy and quiet now for much of our region, it will stay that way most of the tonight into the overnight hours, what we are tracking is the area of low pressure just off the coast of the sunshine state south of that panhandle of florida. this precipitation works from a southeast direction and tapping into the moisture from the gulf of mexico and moisture being kicked in from the atlantic and the nor'easter is on the way. the timing is back with this storm, coming the day before thanksgiving, we are tracking that precipitation moving in and it stays to the west of region as far as the low pressure is concerned we are calling for gusts as high as 30 miles per hour with the rain and wet snow, we'll time it out, 7:00 tomorrow morning rain for most locations,

as i advance this, we see a change over from rain to snow from the poconos to lancaster, some mixing going on here in philadelphia at 10:00 in the morning, all rain for south jersey and delaware, as we get into 1:00 in the morning rain is still falling and the mixing line is moving down the 95 corridor and south jersey as well. i would say if you have yet to travel to your destination, the storm system races off and at 9:00 tomorrow night, the precipitation is push ago way to the north and east. a good time to travel tomorrow night as the storm system goes by. rain in delaware and 1 to 3 inches of that corridor in north chester and buck county there, we can find 3 to 6 inches of snow, the same thing holds through for lancaster and even

easton is close to the 6 plus inches of snow, you see that in areas north and west that i-95 cour dor. after wednesday comes thanksgiving and we have the parade to tell you about. windchills in the upper 20s and it's chilly. 36 at 10:00 a.m. and 38 is the number at noon time. and the wind so be okay under the 21 miles per hour criteria. on wednesday rain to wet snow, high of 48 degrees and thursday a chilly breeze and a high of 40, it's cold on friday with a high temperature of 39 degrees, we'll be tracking the storm and you can ask me questions on twitter and we'll have more updates throughout the day on twitter as well guys. >> remember garfield. back in the day. >> thanks melissa.

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"action news" delaware valley's leading news program. with jaime apody, meteorologist, cecily tynan, rick williams and monica malpass. a large system of liams and precipitation is gaining strength in the southeast, tonight accuweather says it will bring rain as well as south to parts of the delaware and lehigh rallies. the big story is the winter mix heading to our area. >> and it will make a mess for the roads for anyone traveling ahead of the holiday. >> reporter walter perez is in

the lehigh valley monitoring road preps and cecily tynan and melissa magee is tracking the system's path. lets begin with cecily for the latest from stormtracker 6 live double scan. >> stormtracker 6 live double scan showing that the ingredients are beginning to come in place for the storm system. can you see all this have moisture surge agoing ahead of this low pressure in the gulf of mexico. it's pulling in moisture from the gulf and tapping into moisture from the atlantic as it hugs the coast 100 miles offshore and moving quickly at 40 miles per hour at its peak. this will have widespread impact i should say. can you see the warnings and advisories posted from the carolinas to eastern maine that, is about 1,000 miles and this is why we are urging people to really have your traveling tonight or wait it out until thanksgiving, because one change to this