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living on the 110 ♪ this is "nightline." >> tonight, inside waco. a fanatical leader with dozens of followers. >> he started purchasing huge amounts o weaponry, ammunition. >> in a 51-day standoff with federal agents. >> david, it is time to submit and surrender to the proper authorities. >> new details from inside the deadly siege. >> where are the kids, where are the kids? >> the kids should be the underground bus. the fbi said, we tear gass. >> a reliving the nightmare 25 years later. plus "molly's game." >> athletes, billionaires, that's the tip of the iceberg. >> the new movie starring jessica chastain taking us inside secretive, high-stakes
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good evening. it was the deadly raid that horrified this country. an a apocalyptic religio group gained in a 51-day andoff with federal agents outside of waco, texas. their leader, david koresh, claimed he was the second coming of jesus. and tonight, 25 years after the fieryatal end, we have the rviews with the survors.s and >> this is abc news "nightline." >> whatn the 28 ended as a ta today. >> reporter: 25 years april, the standoff outside waco, tes, between a controverse to a horrific end. >> it was our earnest hope that we could try to notia without any -- without endangering human life. >> reporter: for 51 days, the protracted confrontation canation's attention,
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becoming the longest-running siege in american history. ending in the of more than 70 men, women and s,itim c. for others overreaching and violent report center of it all, charismatic sect leader david koresh. >> ts david koresh. >> david koreshhat's wha wanteds everyone to pay attention to him finally. and he was getting what he wanted. all eyes were on him. >> he was highly unstable, self-proclaimed messiah who usd the bible and used scriptures as a weapon. >> reporter: the 33-year-old was the leader of the branch church. of th >> we it was ajoke about it all members. >> god can't manifest his love in this world of
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you got to comep tre to out about god! >> reporter: in the0s, koresh and over 100 followers lived together on a compound called mt. caramel c ranch. >> it was important for david koresh to isolate the group the an influence that is constantly pulling people away and distracting you from the message. >> koresh called his compound the ranch apocalypse. >> the men lived on the ground floor, the women on the second floor with david koresh's bedroom up there too. there was a chapel, a large ki there was a shelter. a buried school bus where they could go to in an emergency. >> there was no running water, nd. no electricity of any we had to go to bible study three times a day. >> reporter: koresh practiced polygamy, taking multiple women as wives and fathering their children. >> there was an extremely strong sense of fily withihan tt group. ane thatfamily.
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and anybody else was not. anybody else by their finition, by their verbiage, was babylon, evil. >> reporter: the group had stockpiled weapons they say for self-defense. koresh he wanted militarize his followers. he started going purchasing hu weaponry, ammunition. >> he thought that the end of all-time, the end of the world, would come in a great battle between the faithful and the beast of who he specifically identified as the government of the united states of america. >> it's war! these governments of this world are coming to an end. go ahead and laugh. >> he had been saying for such a long time they were going to then they did. they came. and they did exactly what he said they were going to do. >> one of the reasonshe branch davidians started to get investigated by the atf was
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because one day a delivery man for u.p.s. delivered a box of grenades to david koresh, and the box broke open. >> reporter: the investigation involved suspicion of firearms nsoffees, as well as potential physical and sexual abuse of minochildren. >> the fbi underestimated the charismatic control david koresh had over this faith community. >> david koresh was training soldiers for god. >> religious zealots. >> reporter: february 28th, federal law enforcement moved in to raid the compound. >> you could hear something rumbling. coming right at us. >> they were never able to determine who really shot that first shot. >> reporter: someone inside the compound called 911. >> 911, what's your emergency? >> 75 men around our building here's children and usmel. women in here and to call it off. >> wayne, cease firing. >> i have a right to defend myself! >> we did lose the call.
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call back, got hold of koresh. >> what'd you guys that for? you see, you brought your bunch of guys out killed so children. we told you we wanted to talk. no, how you guys had to be atf agents? how come you try to be so big all the time? >> reporter: after a few hours the shooting stopped. four federal agents and six branch davidians were dead. but the raid had failed to flush the davidians from their compound. >> my feelings were, this is not over. when a cop goes down, it's a free-for-all. they want revenge. >> we wanted pay back, let's go finish this thing. >> reporter: the standoff lasted for days, then weeks. the situation began to grow desperate on both sides. >> the main focus was on the children. >> david agreed to send them out two by two if we would read a specific scripture that he gave over the radio. >> my name is dave koresh. i'm speaking to you from mt. caramel center. children out the first day.
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>> he says he will release more children, two by two -- >> a total of ten children released from the compound -- >> he wanted the public to think that if they died, they died at the hands of law enforcement.ti surrender. >> we made a request that they prepare a videotape of the folks inside so that we could put a face to a name and get a sense of their personalities. >> this is my family. may not be like your family. >> we were stunned when we saw all those precious little kids that were his biological children. >> her name is serenity. >> one of the things that was very, very clear is that these kids were afraid of david. >> love me? have a kiss? thank you. >> the standoff near waco is in its fourth day with no end in fight. the fbi says 90 adults and 20 children remain in the compound. >> give me the coverage. >> i'm going to get your scripture message to the radio
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station right away. >> we came up with the idea of saying, if you'll record a in t promise to peacefully surrender. he did that, we were very hopeful. >> we were all prepared to receive them. and bring them out. all of a sudden, everything went quiet. >> koresh reneged on it, changed his mind. >> my god told me to wait, and it's all i'm doing. >> we're dumbfounded. >> it escalated things to a point where, in response, the fbi advanced onto the property with its tanks. >> you want to go knuckles to kn an all-out siege at david koresh's ending like the other 39. >> 51 days had passed, we hadn't had out in over a month, we haven't had a child out sincehe 5th of march. enough's enough. >> reporter: april 19th, law enforcement decided to move in with force. >> when i looked through the
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binoculars, i saw a tank with an extended arm, then we realized they were going in it is time t and surrender to the proper authorities. >> over the loud speakers, we began to put gas into the building. >> this gas will temporarily render the building uninhabitable. >> the strategy is to make things so uncomfortable for koresh and his followers that they will come out with their hands up. then it seemed sudden. >> the place is on fire! >> the place was engulfed in flames. i'm persuaded by the recordings of what was being said inside mt. koresh and his most loyal followe >> you want to pou already? we want the fuel! >> here?
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>> pour it all out. >> we might need later. >> my thought was, i'd rather be shot than to burn. two fbi guys, he was telling us to get down, the siege is over. i looked up to him, i said, the kids should be in the underground bus. he looked at the other fbi guy and the other fbi guy said, we tear gassed that bus. i s thinking to myself, you tools. you tear gassed the only avenue of escape for the kids. >> 78 people would perish that last day. not a one of them had to. >> we were not successful getting those children ou boy, c thing. >> reporter: the standoff had finally ended, but the legacy of the siege would be lasting. >> timothy mcveigh was there. and was so affected by the incident at waco that he became an anarchist. >> federal building in oklahoma city was rocked this morning by what some are speculating was a car bomb. >> the attack may have been th waco, texas. >> reporter: there are branch
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davidians still worshipping in america. today at the site of the former compound, a memorial to dead. >> the waco, i have been to several times. just brings back thesenseless, useless feeling that this didn't have to happen. >> ultimately, i would say we never had control over how it was going to end. that was david. he made that decision. coming un ne "molly's game" and why thistory so is relevant to today's "me too" movement. any object. any surface.
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it was supposedly the ultimate boys' club, a high-stakes poker game for elite new york andollywood power brokers, by a woman. molly bloom's life is so sensational, it sounds like a movie. thanks to aaron sorkin and jessica chastain, it is. here's myanchor juju chang. >> we saw athletes,bill tip of theiceberg. >> reporter: where some of the richest, most powerful men in new york and hollywood came to play. >> poker isn't a game of chance, poker is a game of skill. >> reporter: gambling millions in a secretive high-stakes poker game. and pulling the strings? molly bloom. played by jessica chastain in the new movie "molly's game." >> i'm molly bloom. do you know about me? >> poker is a lot about power, intimidation, manipulation. >> reporter: the movie tells the unlikely story of a
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olympic hopeful bound for harvard law school who ended up heading a gambling operation. >> you can't believe that it's a true story, you think it's something hollywood made up. >> it reads like fiction. >> absolutely, reality's stranger than fiction. >> reporter: molly bloom's transformation into the poker princess began after an accident derailed her skiing career, prompting her to move to los angeles. i talked to molly to get the real story. >> my role was to bring these guys drinks. then within a year i became the owner/operator of the game. >> reporter: a seat at her poker table for the legal game became one of the hottest tickets in town. attracting, she says, players like leonardo dicaprio. ben affleck. tobey maguire. the players in the movie are fictional, composite characters. a creative decision made by the movie's writer and director, aaron sorkin. >> you peeled back the curtain on this inner sanctum of secret hollywood power. it's not a pretty sight. >> it's not. just to be clear, in peeling
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back the curtain, i don'tish on anyone. i wldn't want to undean circumstances. >> reporter: already celebrated in hollywood f creatinghe wing" away. >> reporter: and writing the screenplay for "the social network." >> welcome to facebook. >> reporter: this is his debut >> i like heros who don't wear a cape, don't have super powe saye wasn't >> they wanted eeriences. they wanted tofeel. >> i'll be hosting a game in this suite every tuesday night. if you play tonight, you'll be guaranteed a chair for a year. >> reporter: by making her game the ultimate boys' club, bloom says she was earning up to $4 million a year at the height of her success. all legally. >> i got an education on business, the art world, finance. but then i also got the other side of that, which is listening
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to the way men talk about women. nights at way? -- just se was -- there was degradation or disre hard to >> molly had t navigate a world of very powerful me time one of powerful men felt that molly wasn't sufficiently in awe of their power, they ruin her. >> i'm going tstop paying you. >> what do you mean? >> as my assistant. >> reporter: in the bloom's success preedsent a threat to the men she worked with. you're going to stop paying me because i'm making too much money doing my second job,fy say no i'll lose both jobs? >> because it's bad>> reporter:r ing too god at her job. >> my money -- >> your money is my money. >> is it? >> reporter: she also ran afoul of the mob. graphically depicted in the movie. and eventually arrested,
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indicted for running an illegal poker game, after skimming the pot for profit. she pleaded guilty and was sentenced to a year of probation. >> i was sort of profiting from it and figuring it out and taking these calculated risks, going up against the billionaire boys' club. then it became about something else, it became about the money and the greed. >> reporter: these mistakes and what she learned from them part of what drew sorkin and chastain to bloom's story. >> you know, molly has this quality of no matter how many times she fails, no matter how many mistakes she makes, and falls down, she's constantly getting back up. >> reporter: "molly's game" is being released as the tidal wave of the "me too" movement is sweeping hollywood and beyond. what's your response to what has happened since? >> the fact that women are coming together and saying, okay, we are not going to be silent about the injustices that we face anymore. >> reporter: chastain, a crusader for female empowerment,
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advocating for payee quality. >> every industry where one demographic is in charge of the livelihood of the minority, ths ing to be abuses of powe taking paryear, unabashedly speaking ou >> if i don't use my platform to amplify the voices of those who have suffered, of those who don't have a platform as mine, then i don't know how you eporter: isn't shy about speaking out either. >> if you wer to do a "west wing" in the trump look like? >> itk like dead air. i wouldn't do it. because i don't find him to be a terribly interesting character. he is exactly what he looks li. >> there's no subtext? >> there's no subtext, there's no nuance. he only ever talks about two things. himself and his enemies.'s it. and it's a character that you
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wouldn't believe the charteorte performance, soble nominat her h golden globe. i understand your reaction was a little almost surprised? >> especially aft justout. with the idea of coming forward and speaking up. i'm allowed to have a voice. i'm allowed to do what i can to create a healthy environment for all of us. and i can still work. >> you're not going to be punished for having an opinion? >> yeah. a woman is allowed to have an r "nightline," a livelihood. i'm juju chang in new york than i'm juju chang in new york than report and we'll be right back. you won't believe how much is new at red lr new menu. discover more ways to enjoy seafood with n small plates, with big flavor- like yucan
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