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thcareakesitossiyod fiowemm pland pa fee fvi heaverafiollmadli jan1st. >> dickerson: today on "face the nation" a blizzard paralyzes the nation's capital and parts of the northeast but the campaign marchs on. once there's less snow on the campaign trail than there is here in washington. we'll have the latest on the monster storm that pounded the east coast. then just over a week until the iowa caucuses, the candidates are making that final push for support. donald trump is not ending on a modest note. >> i could stand in the middle and shoot somebody i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? >> dickerson: we'll talk to him about that and hear from bernie sanders poised to upset hillary clinton in the hawkeye state. plus, a brand new cbs news battleground tracker tells us how voters are making their final choices. we've got the snow cleared off the satellite, it's all coming up on "face the nation."
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cbs good morning welcome to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. at least 19 people have died as a result of the storm that has tripled the east coast. some 80 million people have been affected we begin here in washington. >> good morning, john. the story of the storm varied by geography but here in washington, it brought us more snow than we typically get in an entire year. when the blizzard conditions finally lifted, the nation's capital was blanked in roughly with feet of snow turning the usually green national mall to a sea of frigid white. one western suburb reported 39 inches of snow from the monster storm that pounded the washington, d.c. area for 36 hours. maryland's governor closed stretches of three interstates overnight banning all nonemergency vehicles. the blizzard hit the south first dumping snow and ice knocking out power to thousands. more than 10,000 flights have
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blizzard made its way north. flights to washington and new york are expected to resume until some time monday. washington subway and buses aren't running as the great dig out finally begins. further north the storm caused huge 500 car back up on the pennsylvania turnpike, among those stranded for entire day was bus carrying the temple university girl's gymnastics team. in washington region not known for its response to snowstorms the big question will the city be ready to open for business on monday. or will weather gridlock start the the week. >> dickerson: thanks, chris. in new york city with story hit harder than first expected. marlie? >> here in central park snow totals reached 26.8 inches. just shy of the record set back in 2006, cars are back on the roads this morning, bridges and tunnels are open but yesterday
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new york city mayor bill deblack yes banned travel until 7:00 a.m. this morning. >> this is a very big deal. >> on buses and most trains were also stopped. more than two feet of record breaking snow and ice blanketed new york city. hurricane force winds created white out conditions. new york governor andrew question know declared a state of emergency then jumped into action to help a motorist stuck in the snow. but not everyone was so lucky. there were more than 400 accidents, none of them fatal. there was some disappointment on broadway, shows were cancelled yesterday and ticket holders had to find other ways to weather the storm. officials said more than 25 0 snow plows were deployed to clear roads. while there has been a lot of progress, the mayor says things won't get back to normal here before the start of the work
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new york, thanks. and on jersey shore. >> good morning, john. historic blizzard brought more than snow look at the water it is rising here along the jersey shore that is what a lot of people were concerned about, some of the streets in the neighborhood i'm standing in are flooded. you can barely see there's actually a bench under water behind me. now, the ocean waters reached high tide last night and this morning causing the water to rise at nearby inlet and bay that's put hundreds ever homes at risk. coastal flooding remains a concern this morning, the national weather service expects road flooding and minor to moderate property damage. conditions have improved since yesterday when large chunks of ice flowed down this street in ocean city and officials in at least one shore town issued a mandatory evacuation. governor chris christie who left the campaign trail friday in new
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said this was his 17th snow emergency in six years. we know how to do this. right now, a state of emergency is still in effect here in new jersey, waters are expected to recede, issue today is cleaning up the snow and of course assessing the overall damage. john. >> dickerson: fous on the jersey shore. thanks. we turn now to campaign 2016 our new battleground tracker results. donald trump is back on top in our iowa tracking. he's at 39%. ted cruz behind him by just five points at 34%. marco rubio running third at 13% the rest are at 5% and below. in new hampshire, a big lead with 34% compared to ted cruz at 16%. rubio at 14. kasich at 10. rest of the field at 7% or less. in south carolina, the story is
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cruz in second with 21%. rubio in third with 13. the others are ated% or less. bad weather kept snowed in here in washington and unable to sit down with donald trump in person so he is joining us by phone this morning from iowa. good morning, mr. trump, thanks for joining us. you said yesterday you could shoot someone on fifth avenue wouldn't lose voters. you're that confident? >> well, i have a very great group of people, john. i have people that are so loyal that it's been so reported, even in your poll. but in a lot of polls they do that to loyalty factor. my factor is up when you add it all up it's close to 90% these are people ha that just won't leave. they will not leave. i love my people. it's a great thing. it's a great thing. far greater loyalty than any other candidate by double, triple, quadruple. i love my people. >> dickerson: on one hand you have your people this week on the other hand you have the
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special issue trying to convince people not to support you, not to vote you, why do you think they did that? what was their arenaing? >> it's a failing magazine, number one. they need publicity. they are people that most of whom i don't know. most of whom -- don't forget i've been in business, i've made a lot of money, which i'm going to do for the country now. i've been focused on jobs and money and deals, that's what i do. that's what the country needs. these are people for the most part i don't know. i don't even know who most of them are. i don't want to know who most of them are. they are just people that are i guess trying to save a magazine that is close to closing up. they get publicity, i think it plays into what i'm saying because it shows the divisiveness. they backed romney, he lost. they backed mccain, he lost. they lose. they don't know how to win. i'm not sure they want to win they just want to stay relevant. they're very irrelevant. >> dickerson: they make argument that ted cruz which is that your not, this is phrase that common
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that you have changed your positions on some things over time. what is your response to that critique? >> usually i just evoke the name ronald reagan. ronald reagan was fairly liberal democrat, he evolved over years and became more and more conservative. he was not a very conservative person but he was pretty conservative. he ended up being a great president. and i have evolved on many issues. there are some issues very much the same. i've been constant on many issues, but i have evolved. i think evolved through experience and through you grow older you see things, you watch thing, you study things. ronald reagan the exact same thing. he was much more liberal than i was. he was fairly liberal. lot of people don't know that. he became a fairly conservative president, but he did become a great president. >> dickerson: what is your definition of conservative? >> well, i think it's a person that doesn't want to take risks. i think that's a good thing.
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of government i'm talking about. person that wants to conserve, a person that wants to in financial sense balance budgets. a person that feels strongly about the military and i feel very strong low about the military. and you have some of these amy they don't even want to focus on the military. our military is falling apart i feel very -- i have always felt very strongly about the military. by the way, if you look at vision, the word vision, i was the one that said, take the oil, i've been saying that for years, take the oil, let's take the oil. nobody would listen then all of a sudden after paris they started saying maybe that's right we'll take the oil. they still don't take the proper way. i was -- which is a little bit different than normal conservative. but i was very much opposed to the war in iraq. lot of these guys were all for the war in iraq look what's that has got it. spent $2 trillion, now handing iraq over, just handing over to iran. iran is going to take over iraq
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>> dickerson: welcome back. we're back with anthony salvanto director of elections here at cbs. let's go back to iowa they're going to start vote in eight days. i can't believe it. cruz was up nine points in december. now trump is up five. cruz has been making a lot of attacks on trump saying he's not a consistent conservative, he doesn't believe what you believe. if that would work anywhere it would seem that iowa would be the place but it's not working. >> it's not. this is not necessarily an ideological election. this is about who can change things, this is he a bout who can fix things. and trump is ahead of cruz on those measures. you look at people who say they want the economy fixed. that's the number one thing behind donald trump's support. cruz's support is more concentrated in people who say they want a president who will
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their religion. that's important in iowa. evangelical vote always important in iowa. but not quite large enough sled. not enough of voting block to put him now past donald trump. plus, you add in the fact that trump has cut into cruz's lead with evangelicals, cut into it with the tea party support and that adds up then to that trump number. >> dickerson: what are about trump voters. >> in your interview about loyalty. he's right about that. we've been reinterviewing people on this panel. >> dickerson: tracking over time. >> we sat here in september we talked about donald trump's support. we reinterviewed those people, they are still with him. over 909%. once they come to donald trump they stay there. and the other -- >> dickerson: that number 90% put that in context relative to somebody else. anybody up in the 90s anywhere close? >> no.
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shifted around. cruz took from carson. rubio's pulled from bush, et cetera. nobody matched that. at the same time, trump will eventually perhaps need to grow that base a little bit and maybe have some challenges there. >> dickerson: what are his challenges? >> i think you look at people who aren't with him as has often been the case they say they have hard time considering him. and many of them find him to be out of the mainstream. so, if he's going to get -- rest of the field were to consolidate he needs another 5 x 10% how does he get those people. that remains i think a challenge for him. of course tush out always big challenge in iowa. we did ask people, do you know where your caucus location is. that's the first thing to know. and trump's people say they did. >> dickerson: if you know what the caucus is you're likely to go. that's the big question for somebody who is bringing in new voters presumably. >> exactly.
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the other states that you looked at. florida, texas, how is it looking in other states? >> looks like rest of the nation which is lot of trump. lot of trump lead. in florida he is up big. in georgia he's up. and in texas he is -- ted cruz that's his home state. you look at florida, that looks a lot like what the rest of the country looks like where marco rubio is from florida, of course, he's down there. he's in third place. competitive. but big picture here, john, is that look at this whole thing as a delicate fight that is going to go on for a few months. going to make a big deal out of iowa and new hampshire. but as we get into march these things, all these delegates are going to be up for grabs. and early part of february only like 5% of the delegates we're looking at here. >> dickerson: let's switch over to the democratic side. bernie sanders it's neck and
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the momentum, what's behind it. they're listening to his attacks on wall street. >> they are. i mentioned earlier that majority of democrats in iowa think that hillary clinton might side with big donors over regular people. where as 91% of them feel that bernie sanders would side with regular people over big donors. there's another part of this, too, you notice of cours t race has gotten a little more heated in recent days. each have been critiquing each other, marginally iowa democrats feel that bernie sanders critiques on hillary clinton have been fair where as lesson hillary clinton's attacks on bernie sanders had been fair. in fact, even many of hillary clinton's supporters feel that bernie sanders makes their point about her. >> dickerson: does she have something that she does this she can hang on to that if we -- she should talk about that voters seem to be listening to when it comes to her? >> absolutely. it's electability.
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want most of all to win in november, they are overwhelmingly with her. like 75%. but also look at who wants to shake up the system, bernie sanders gets those voters. who wants to get progressive things done, bernie sanders gets those voters. very liberal iowa and new hampshire those things have appeal. that's what bolstering him at this point. >> dickerson: electability suggests there is a realistic mindset among democrats they're trying -- hillary clinton camp trying to paint bernie sanders as too idealistic, too pie in the sky. >> for her voters that's working. they actually ask this, they actually see bernie sanders as idealistic. where as his voters do see him as realistic. they fall into this. but at the same time, they look at where bernie sanders is doing well. he's doing well across very broad spectrum of voters, of
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point they might be first time voters. and one of the things we have to watch here as always is turn out. if his support is too concentrated in eastern iowa, this is a delegate fight, as folks watch they should note that in iowa, you're competing for delegates all across the state. and if the support is too concentrated in eastern iowa he can fall short with delegates. >> dickerson: thanks s . this is a wral weather alert. good morning. we have a winter weather update. let's check in with meteorologist mike moss who has a good idea of the weather. if you look at this southeastern wade county. the further north or west you go from raleigh the more
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ground. now, until lunchtime we have a winter weather advisory for black ice and slick roads. the neighborhood roads and secondary roads, there may be -- they may be slower to clear. 38 in apex, 34 for roxboro and 35 in garner. most of us in theer 30s and low 40s this afternoon. we'll take a look at glenwood avenue. this just right by the mall, you can see the right lanes are closed, hard to actually see where the car that may have been involved in an accident is at this point. but, we do know that the road at this point is closed -- the right lane is closed. we can see what could be a puddle, there could be ice there. this is what you'll run into as you make your way out and about today. it's important to remind people, make sure you scrape off the top of your car so you
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the windows of other drivers. >> dickerson: now for some analysis, ruth marcus is columnist for the "washington post." matt lewis is a senior contributor for the "daily call" and with a new book. nancy cordes our congressional correspondent and ed o'keefe with the "washington post." matt, let me start with you. start with cruz and trump. what is the nature of that conflict right now with eight days to go before they start voting in iowa. >> it's fascinating those guys are populous conservatives. the establishment, not even establishment versus grass roots thing these for populous conservative kind of grass roots guys. they're really two heavy weights duking it out over iowa. i think if i had to pet right now i'd still go with ted cruz in iowa because of the ground game because he fits so well with the evangelical thing.
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long and refused to throw punches, i wonder if ted cruz might have been getter off. >> dickerson: now throwing punches at such a rate, since i started talking, they're not really working for cruz against trump. at least as far as our poll and other polls are showing. >> they're not. because he's announcing that donald trump is part of the establishment which is hard case to make when the establishment has spent most of this campaign being openly horrified by trump. and so, yes, to the extent that they're now marginally more supportive of trump than cruz that's, a, because ted cruz is personable and trump might be better winning over some in a general election than cruz. but it's not as if they are embracing donald trump against cruz. idea it is weird we had this last week. we're used to endorsements but there are much more anti-endorsements than i have
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the anti-doorsment of cruz from number of republican senators. and then you also then had national review, ed, anti-endorsing donald trump. what's going on here? >> i think people panicking. i think 134 republicans saying where were you months ago. you should have done this in october or november. shouldn't be doing it eight days before the caucus, there's a point. this point it's pretty clear, two-guy race, two people that establishment republicans cannot stand they're going to have to live -- >> play good conservative who were calling out donald trump earlier. but i don't think that they really took him seriously enough. in fact lot of them empower them the tough radio host, rush limbaugh would really help by ignoring trump in some cases, this monster brewing now too late to stop him. >> i'm not sure it's too late to stop him. i do think it's important for us to understand, we're talking about two different republican
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actually i hate to disagree about conservatives with matt but i think trump and cruz are two very different candidates. is the republican conservative establishment, encapsulated, epitomized by the national review that we saw rising up against trump as not a true conservative. and then we have the lack of better term, washington establishment, because they were all stuck at home in the snow spent a lot of the day talking to them. they are much more horrified by cruz than by trump because cruz would take them down a road of extreme conservatism in the party. that trump would not. would have -- trump would have some potential, a, to be elected. b, to attract more moderate voters because he is a much less mainstream movement conservative candidate than is ted cruz. >> dickerson: nancy, you know the hill well, you've covered
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leader trent lott. maybe donald trump might make some deals in washington, he might work, explain this among ted cruz and his colleagues, talk about the establishment in washington lot of the establishment figures are senators who work with ted cruz. >> what really angers them that he has made even the most conservative members of the senate look insufficiently conservative to their own voters. they feel that he has sold tea party voters a bill of goods in the sense that he railed against congress saying, they're not being true to you, they could be doing this, they could be defunding obamacare if they wanted to. they could defund planned parenthood if they wanted to they're not doing it because they're afraid. conservative members say, we'd love to do that but just not legislatively possible. beyond that, beyond the fact that they think that he he essentially misled voters they
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self-interest to raise money and that he put that ahead of his party. >> both i'd logical and personal. but the concern of the other conservative establishment has about trump i think is very valid and real, which is, listen to his interview with you as excellent question about his definition of conservatism. what didn't he mention? limited government. the essence of the conservative movement he never mentioned at all. by the way, for him to like enhim toll is ronald reagan i wanted -- wondered what ronald reagan in heaven is thinking about the guy putting up with vladimir putin. and everybody -- but some more basis than others. >> dickerson: let's talk about the other candidates not named trump and cruz. what is the state that have conversation? >> fascinating sort of subdrama
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