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candid interview with prosecutor marcia clark who doesn't hold back when discussing her unique perspective on the case on everything from the infamous bronco chase -- >> i'm thinking he was like the biggest idiot ever. >> -- to the trial of the century. >> every day, we'd walk into court and something else was blowing up. >> not guilty of the crime of murder. >> reporter: and of course the verdict. >> reporter: you blame yourself for this? >> you know, i always do. i do. >> reporter: it was a cool, late spring evening in brentwood. around midnight a couple was walking a dog down a quiet section of south bundy drive when something strange caught their attention. then at the entrance to a condominium they it.
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toy'pould >> take it from oj simpson there is only one superstar in rent a car. >> reporter: someone the nation knew, trusted, and liked. >> "go oj go." >> reporter: from his naked gun movies. >> right. >> reporter: to his nfl broadcasts. >> reporter: as his colleague bob costas remembers -- >> he was always the quintessential hail fellow well met. he was outwardly as likeable a person as you could ever want to encounter. >> reporter: but on day two of this story, much of that history was in the process of being rewritten. the brentwood crime scene was now crawling with cops looking for clues and collecting evidence.
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leading from it, a trail of bloody shoe prints. near the bodies was a bloody left-handed glove and a blue knit cap. and inside the walls of simpson's rockingham estate detective mark fuhrman was went behind kato kaelin's bungalow and discovered a moist, bloody glove, similar to the one at the crime scene. it looks like the same type. >> reporter: and it was a right-handed glove? >> yeah. the same everything. >> reporter: detectives also found a trail of blood drops on simpson's driveway leading from the white ford bronco parked on the street. lange braced himself for what was to come. >> this is very sensitive now. it's a celebrity case. at midnight last night, a passerby observed the body, a female white body and a male white body. >> reporter: by now the news media had the first sketchy reports. deputy district attorney marcia
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trials unit. she was consulted about getting a search warrant for rockingham by tom lange's partner, detective phil vannatter who already considered simpson a suspect. >> he goes, "you know who it is? "o.j. simpson." who's that? oh, wait. oh yeah, "naked gun." hertz commercial, right?" >> reporter: you're not a big football fan? >> no, wasn't a big football fan. but i know who he is now. >> reporter: some 13 hours after the murders, simpson returned to la from chicago, a journey that took him from household name to potential suspect. you never thought of him as a killer? >> no, no, no. to me, he was bigger than life, and had a great personality. he loved, you know, being o.j. simpson. bad enough that simpson might be involved in the murder of her best friend, but now kris was further conflicted because her former husband,
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longtime personal attorney. kardashian was also at rockingham and was caught on camera carrying what appeared to be simpson's garment bag. much has been speculated about what might have been in that bag. could you conceive of him loving his friend so much that he would help him dispose of evidence? >> absolutely not. i guarantee you 150% that he had this character and integrity and christian values and believed in the truth. >> o.j., what can you say about this? >> back off, get out of the way. >> don't know anything? >> reporter: detectives now wanted to bring in simpson for questioning. his attorney, howard weitzman, said his client would fully cooperate. >> he's shocked, he had nothing to do with this tragedy. >> reporter: after arriving at police headquarters, simpson's
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and then went to lunch. leaving their client alone with two veteran homicide detectives phil vannatter and tom lange. >> i was flabbergasted. unless he just thinks he's glib enough to do -- say anything he wants and he's gonna get around us. >> reporter: detectives and o.j. simpson now settled into a small interrogation room for a critical interview that could make or break the case. it would be the first and last time simpson would tell his story to police. coming up -- >> i know, i'm the number one target, and now you tell me i've got blood all over the place.
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returning to our story, the o.j. simpson trial was to be a circus in a courtroom watched by millions. here again is josh mankiewicz. >> reporter: day 1 of what the was being called the trial of the century. it's no exaggeration to say it felt as if the whole world was watching. >> we're very ready. we've been ready for a long time.
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months after the murders of nicole brown and ron goldman. o.j. simpson was facing the possibility of life in prison if convicted. now the two sides would finally square off. a team of tough but largely unknown la county prosecutors, armed with a seemingly airtight case rich in dna evidence. pitted against some of the most famous defense lawyers in the land, whose plan was simple. put the police and their investigation on trial. presiding over all of this would be judge lance ito. a former prosecutor who had been on the bench for six years. >> this blood drop you see here marked as the item #112 matches the defendant. >> reporter: the heart of the prosecution's case was all that blood and dna evidence which pointed squarely at o.j. simpson. but first, prosecutors detailed simpson and nicole's troubled, sometimes violent relationship, which they said culminated in
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>> and in that final and terrible act, ronald goldman, an innocentysnd, s viciously and senselessly murdered. >> reporter: later denise brown gave the jury a chilling account of how simpson brutalized her sister right in front of her. >> picked her up, threw her against the wall. picked her up and threw her out of the house. >> reporter: was it tough to go in there and recount what you had seen? >> yeah, it was. i had just lost my sister. yeah, everything was just right there. i mean, just so fresh. >> reporter: prosecutors also focused on the timeline of the murders to show that simpson was alone and unaccounted for at least an hour. enough time to kill ron and nicole. >> people call mr. kaelin. >> reporter: kato kaelin took the stand to testify about that night he was with simpson. but first came one of those "kato moments." >> did you think your friendship
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especially living on his property might send acting roles your way? >> i didn't think that. i don't think we're going for the same parts. i was just being me. it wasn't about the spotlight. it was just me. how i am. >> reporter: whose side was kato kaelin on? >> oh, that's a great question. he certainly wasn't on ours. he was on kato's side, that would be my opinion. from the very start, he was very clearly withholding information. >> reporter: and you didn't think he had anything to do with it? >> no. what he was doing was sticking his finger in the air, seeing which way the wind was blowing and saying, "you know what? simpson's not going to get convicted and i'm going to be the one who was standing by his side and he'll take care of me." >> reporter: kaelin told us he cooperated fully, and answered everything clark asked. and at trial he did detail a critical sequence of events before and after the murders from the trip he and simpson
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to those three strange sounds he heard at 10:45 pm. sounds investigators believed simpson made when returning home after killing ron and nicole. >> can you demonstrate for us how loud it was? >> somewhat, yes. >> go ahead. yeah, go ahead. >> and where did that noise seem to be coming from? >> from the back of the wall. >> reporter: kato kaelin had come to hollywood looking for fame. what he found was something more powerful, longer-lasting and ultimately upsetting. >> it was probably the scariest moment in my entire life. and also everything that you've done in your life became out to the public. >> reporter: it's not what you wanted, i'm sure. >> i would never think in a billion years that this was going to be my life. >> reporter: kato kaelin wasn't alone. another person's life had
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night, but this man was eager to testify. skip junis was at the l.a. airport the night of the murders to pick up his wife who worked for american airlines. it was 11:30 pm, just an hour after ron and nicole had been killed. >> a limousine pulled up and o.j. simpson got out of the limousine. >> reporter: junis says he had a clear view of simpson. but simpson, he says, never saw him. >> he was carrying this little, cheap gym bag. he only zipped it a few inches. just enough to get his hand in, and was pulling things out and dumping them in the trash can. >> reporter: back then junis didn't think too much of it, as he watched simpson empty that little black bag and then hustle inside. by the time police learned what he'd seen, it was too late for them to go through the trash. but junis did draw a picture of the bag for detectives. you think he was disposing of the evidence then? >> sure, of course i do.
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i have no reason to discount him or anything else, he has an entirely credible story. >> reporter: so credible that junis was subpoenaed to testify. but like a lot of the prosecution's case, things wouldn't go quite according to plan. and the defense was just getting started. >> reporter: coming up, if it doesn't fit -- >> it was a stunning time, one that will go down in annals of history i suggest.
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o.j. simpson's face is, quote, "the face of a batterer, a wife beater, an abuser, a controller. the face of ron and nicole's murderer." >> reporter: but if the audience loved it, 12 jurors didn't see it, because they were sequestered, confined to this high-rise hotel a few blocks from the courthouse. lon cryer was one of the jurors who actually decided the case. for 265 days, more than eight months, their lives were limited to a court room and a hotel room. >> with no tv, no phone, no radios, no nothing. >> reporter: isolated. bored. often lonely. there was nothing glamorous about being a juror on the trial of the century. >> i think you'll be very happy with the entertainment that we'll provide for you this weekend. >> reporter: there were occasional off-day outings around town. and there was one business trip,
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tour of the crime scene and simpson's rockingham estate. but what the jurors didn't know was that before that visit, defense attorney carl douglas had gone into simpson's house for a little redecorating. >> we wanted to make the rockingham location look lived in and stand with all of its regalness, so that the jurors would say, "o.j. simpson would not have risked all of this for this woman." >> reporter: photos of simpson with white women were swapped out for pictures of him with black people. a norman rockwell painting from johnnie cochran's office and a bedside photo of simpson's mother were placed in prominent view. >> this is not tampering with evidence? >> this is not tampering with evidence, no. this is simply making his house presentable. like washing the floors. >> like putting the bible out for everybody to see -- >> like putting flowers in to make the house more presentable. if there is no objection, so be
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>> you wanted to win. >> if it's not called, i'm trying to get the optimum advantage to win. they play hardball in the big leagues. this was the big leagues. >> reporter: and there was a lot more hardball to be played, starting with that evidence cops had collected at the crime scene and at simpson's estate. the defense knew how to dismiss quickly it and cleverly, with just four little words. >> garbage in, garbage out. >> reporter: garbage in, garbage out, became the strategy. if there was evidence that was contaminated, or corrupted, then the result and the conclusions could not be trusted. for example, a key blood sample that wasn't collected from the crime scene until three weeks after the murder. then defense dna expert barry scheck pounced on the lapd's dennis fung, accusing him
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evidence. >> there! there! how about that, mr. fung? >> the defense came in and just whittled in piece by piece, little by little. >> many people who watched the trial said that the jury was bored by the lengthy dna evidence. >> put yourself there. and you're sitting there. you're listening to this stuff over and over. i'm not gonna lie to you. it was somewhat boring. >> reporter: boring, and apparently not resonating with the jury, whose silent expressions sent a loud meage to marcia clark. >> the trial was a nightmare for me every single day. i had had so many days of going back up to my office and feeling like we're toast. it's over. there's no way. because, remember, i'm watching the jury all day, every day. >> what was the bigger problem, the defense suggesting that, because of race, that the dna evidence had been tampered with, or was dna back then just too hard and too boring for the jury to understand?
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it was definitely the race issue. so the dna was not the problem. the problem was the jury didn't wanna believe. and so at the end of the day, you can't make someone believe something they don't want to believe. >> reporter: but there was plenty of other evidence besides dna that the prosecution never showed the jury. like the police interview with simpson. or his emotional farewell note and the ensuing bronco chase. those were critical lost opportunities, says detective tom lange. >> i had a problem from day one, because of evidence that they didn't wanna put on. >> and you'd say to prosecutors, "what are you doing?" and they would say, "don't worry, we have dna evidence." >> they didn't say that, they obviously implied that. we kept getting evidence, getting more and more evidence. and they weren't having anything to do with it. >> reporter: but clark says she was concerned that the bronco chase, simpson's police
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note" might play sympathetically to the jury. >> i have to look for the most objective evidence i can. i can't go to them and say, "this is what i think." because any of these kind of dicey moves, and that'a dicey move, the statement he gave the cops, the quote/unquote suicide note that he wrote. so i had enough solid evidence without taking risk with evidence like that. that even eyewitness skip junis, the man who said he spotted simpson emptying his gym bag at the airport soon after the murders, was never called to testify. and neither was kris jenner, who wanted to tell the jury how nicole feared for her life. >> her knowing that she was going to be murdered, do you believe that she knew? >> she knew. >> how do you know? >> she told me. >> what did she say to you? >> he's gonna kill me and he's gonna get away with it. >> you couldn't put her on the stand because, what? that's hearsay? >> yeah, yeah. that would be hearsay. under the circumstances that
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in. i would've been happy to put her on the stand, believe me. i think she would have been a great witness. but -- >> reporter: we've talked a lot about the evidence the prosecution could have brought into the case, but there was something they probably should have left out. it would prove to be especially devastating to the case, a self-inflicted wound from which prosecutors probably never recovered. >> the people would ask that mr. simpson step forward and try on the glove recovered at bundy as well as the glove recovered at rockingham. >> that's people's 77. >> that was not my call. i did not want him to try on the evidence gloves. i never did. >> whose call was that? >> that was chris's call. >> reporter: chris was co-prosecutor christopher darden. >> i was miserable from the moment that chris said, "no, i'm doing this." and i never expected anything good to come of it. >> the only thing i could assume
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right gloves. because they didn't fit. >> it was a stunning time, one that will go down in the annals of history, i suggest. >> as one of the dumbest moves ever by any prosecutor. >> ever. you never try a demonstration if you're not sure what's gonna happen. >> the gloves at rockingham and bundy don't fit! do you understand that? don't fit! and they can never make them fit! bye! >> reporter: and the prosecution knew it too, just a little too late, as chris darden told nbc news in 1996. >> they should have fit him. our glove expert said they would fit him. they were his gloves. they had his blood on them. the victim's blood on them. it's something that because it did not come off perfectly, oh, yeah, i wish i hadn't done. >> you say to darden that night, i told you so? >> no. darden said to me, "i'm sorry."
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if that lost the case for us, we were never gonna win anyway." >> reporter: coming up -- detective mark fuhrman is caught on tape, putting the prosecution on the defense. >> it was mind boggling what we'd heard. >> reporter: and those dramatic closing arguments. >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> reporter: when dateline continues.th a 467orse per v8 engin rque vtoring drentia d brembokes. 's thet expron off pemance, flexu i knewt ife m
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mark fuhrman, the handsome, confident cop who had discovered the bloody glove at rockingham. so mckenna followed up with the man who left the message about furhman, which led him to a woman named laura hart mckinney, a screenwriter who consulted with fuhrman on a script about police work. and their conversations were recorded. a few weeks later, the tapes arrived at cochran's office. johnnie was very careful about those tapes, locking 'em in his safe, where only he had the combination. because it was just so explosive. >> anything out of a [ bleep ] mouth for the first five or six sentences is a fucking lie. >> this is mark fuhrman on the tape. i've heard it myself, it is his voice and it is chilling. >> it was mind boggling what we'd heard. he used the n-word so much that became insignificant. >> are you guys, like, you know,
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you listen to those tapes? >> it was manna from heaven. >> reporter: but for the prosecution, the fuhrman tapes were pure hell. >> it was horrifying, horrifying and listening to that tape, it was, like -- it was, like, having a sewer-unload on your head. >> reporter: fuhrman insisted the conversations were no more than the basis for a movie. >> is this really what the reality of a democracy is? that we use a fictional screeenplay to prosecute one man for doing too good of a job on a murder case and acquitting another? i just think it's absolutely absurd. >> reporter: absurd to detective fuhrman, but it was live ammunition for simpson's attorneys. the defense maintained that fuhrman was a racist cop, who in an effort to frame simpson, planted the bloody glove at his estate.
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thinking, and the entire lapd investigation would be in doubt. now judge ito, made a controversial ruling that would greatly benefit simpson's defense. he allowed two excerpts from the fuhrman tapes to be presented before the jury. >> they don't do anything. they don't go out there and initiate a contact with some 6'5" [ bleep ] that's been in prison for 7 years pumping weights. >> reporter: fuhrman, who had testified previously and denied using the n-word, was then called back to court to answer for what he said on those tapes. >> all right, detective fuhrman would you resume the witness stand please. >> reporter: this time fuhrman, accompanied by his lawyer, didn't have much to say. except -- >> i wish to assert my 5th amendment privilege. >> reporter: three times fuhrman invoked his constitutional right against self-incrimination as the defense grilled him saving their best question for last. >> detective furhman did you
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evidence in this case? >> i assert my 5th amendment privilege. i it was terrible. it was terrible. the glove demonstration to me paled into insignificance after that. >> it's not good when you're handicapping a murder trial afterwards and you're comparing -- >> was -- >> which part of your case was the biggest disaster? >> throughout the trial it felt like one minefield after another. and every day, we'd walk into court and something else was blowing up. >> my client's already answered that. >> i was pissed. pissed. when someone asks you that, under those circumstances, is, "no. hell, no. i do not plant evidence." that's the response. when you plead the fifth, it's all over, whether he did it or not. >> did fuhrman sink the prosecution when he did that? >> he sunk the case. >> i assert my 5th amendment privilege. >> reporter: this part of fuhrman's testimony was heard outside the presence of the jury. >> all right, thank you, sir. >> thank you, your honor. >> reporter: but juror lon cryer
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opinion about him and his role in the investigation. >> in my mind i thought, well, he planted this, the gloves and the hat. he had plenty of opportunity to do it. >> and because this investigation wasn't 100% by the book, you think that means something -- >> that means i can't convict someone -- >> something nefarious went on? >> it means that i can't convict someone of murder. >> reporter: prosecutors had one last chance closing arguments. for five hours marcia clark reviewed that trail of evidence from bundy to rockingham. clear proof, she said, that simpson killed nicole and ron. >> and you know he did it. now, these murders did not occur in a vacuum, they occurred in the context of a stormy relationship, a relationship that was scarred by violence and abuse. >> it wasn't my best. it wasn't. i was tired. i was demoralized. by the time i got to actually talk to the jury, i thought, "are you hearing anything? i don't know if you're hearing
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it just didn't feel like anybody cared. >> stop this cover up! >> reporter: then it was johnnie cochran's turn. >> stop this cover up. if you don't stop it then who? >> reporter: it was classic cochran as he delivered that iconic line which would forever define the trial. >> if it doesn't fit you must acquit. >> reporter: so with cochran's speech ringing in their ears, the exhausted jury would now decide the fate of orenthal james simpson. but it turns out most of them had already made up their minds. coming up -- an eight-month trial decided in less than four hours, leaving millions to ask -- was justice done? >> it was physically painful. that was not justice.
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ask your dabouca. >> reporter: from the county jail to the country club. it didn't take oj simpson to get back into the swing of things. on the links and on camera simpson was everywhere, eager to clear his name, as he told b.e.t. in january of 1996. >> i loved nicole. i could not have killed anyone. >> reporter: watching and seething were the families of nicole and ron. >> you know, here was this arrogant murderer, you know, flaunting his celebrity. >> reporter: kept sayin' he was looking for the real killers, on every fairway in america. >> right. and every time he looked in the mirror at home, he had found him. >> reporter: but fred goldman still wanted justice, even if it
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>> i wanted a court to say he was -- was guilty. >> reporter: no court could do that now, but a civil court could find him liable for killing ron and nicole. and that meant filing a wrongful death lawsuit. if simpson lost, he wouldn't go to prison but he might have to pay damages to the families. the goldmans hired a relatively unknown attorney named dan petrocelli to represent them. he had never handled a case that involved murder. >> petrocelli would argue the case here in santa monica where a jury would be selected from a largely white population. and unlike in the criminal case, the burden of proof was lower. this jury wouldn't have to agree unanimously on a verdict. and as a matter of law, o.j. simpson would have no choice but to testify in pretrial depositions and the trial itself. and that meant simpson would have to answer for all the dna
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and something that surfaced in the national enquirer. >> on one of the lead pages, is a picture of simpson walking and one of his feet were elevated and they had circled the shoe he was wearin' and said that was a bruno magli shoe. >> reporter: during the original investigation the bloody shoe prints at the crime scene were matched to this exact type of italian shoe. now, thanks to the photo, petrocelli could put the shoes on simpson. >> then we had it sent out to a lab for authentication, came back. this is a real picture. >> reporter: in january 1996, simpson arrived at petrocelli's office for deposition that would be videotaped, putting the attorney face-to-face with his boyhood idol. >> by that point i knew he was a stone-cold killer. but he extended his hand out for me to shake it.
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i shook his hand. i've always regretted that, that i literally shook the hand of -- that probably wielded the knife that killed my client's son and killed his ex-wife. >> reporter: but that was as friendly as it ever got, as we discovered in these rarely seen video depositions. for 13 days, petrocelli grilled simpson about the night of the crime, the cut on his finger and the shoes. >> you ever buy shoes that you knew were bruno magli shoes? >> no. >> how do you know that? >> 'cause i know, if bruno magli makes shoes that look like the shoes they had in court that's involved in this case, i would have never owned those ugly-ass shoes. >> the deposition turned out to be a gold mine for us, because he made so many inconsistent statements. >> reporter: then petrocelli challenged simpson about abusing nicole. >> i believe the bruises that
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spsie r. if she got them from me being physical with her or she got them when she fell when she was outside, i was responsible for it. >> if she fell when she was outside, it's because you made her fall, right? >> no. >> because you were hitting her. right? >> no. >> you were pounding her. >> no, that's incorrect. >> you made her face black and blue, didn't you? >> if her face was black and blue the next day or two days later, i was responsible for it. >> reporter: then in october 1996. o.j. simpson would tell it to a jury as the civil trial got underway. no tv cameras. no discussion of racist cops planting evidence. >> it was a different kind of trial, you know. it was a trial based on evidence. it was all about facts. >> reporter: and the primary witness in this case was o.j. simpson himself who had no choice but to take the stand. >> he had no answers, no explanations why his dna and his hair and his fiber and his
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why the victim's blood was in his house. why the victims' blood was in his car. this is evidence that would put people away in three seconds in most cases. >> reporter: and near the end of trial another devastating wave of evidence. more photos of simpson wearing the same bruno magli shoes, 30 more pictures. >> it really puts the ultimate lie to simpson. >> reporter: and now a jury would decide. after deliberating five days they had a verdict. it was unanimous. >> the jury has decided yes, o.j. simpson did willfully and wrongfully cause the death of ron goldman. [ cheers and applause ] >> finally he had a court say he did it. it was only confirmation of what we knew. but he did it. >> reporter: the families were awarded $33.5 million dollars in damages, of which they've only
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but simpson lost what was left of his reputation. [ crowd jeers ] >> reporter: that aside, he again walked out of court a free man. it turned out justice was coming for o.j. simpson in ways he never imagined. coming up, o.j. simpson in criminal court again, but this time the verdict is different. >> i'm gonna sentence you as follows. >> reporter: and more than two decades later, what else has changed? and the latest on the knife supposedly found at o.j.
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convicted, and later sentenced up to 33 years. >> thank you. >> reporter: o.j. simpson is eligible for parole in 2017. he will be 70 then. but that isn't the end of the simpson saga. even now more than 20 years later, new stories continue to surface. just two days ago, lapd detectives came into possession of a knife, a knife supposedly recovered years ago here at simpson's former estate in brentwood. the knife is now undergoing testing to see if it has any connection to the case. >> so it has been submitted to our lab. they are going to study it and examine it for all forensics, including serology and dna and hair samples. and that is ongoing as we speak. >> reporter: this is not the first knife to emerge. over the years dozens of knives have also surfaced, but none have proven to be the murder weapon. since neither simpson, nor anyone else was convicted of the murders, police say they will continue to explore any new
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>> this is a double homicide that is still open and ongoing. >> reporter: but because of double jeopardy laws, simpson can never again be charged with the murders of his ex-wife and ron goldman. quite a bit has changed in the two decades since that horrible night in brentwood. >> if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> reporter: the man who helped acquit simpson johnnie cochran, simpson's friend and attorney robert kardashian also passed away, two years earlier. lapd detective phil vanatter also died in 2012. >> we don't have any answers right now. >> reporter: his partner, tom lange, is now retired and still lives outside los angeles. >> it is in the memory of nicole that the foundation was formed. >> reporter: denise brown is very active educating others about domestic violence, and now runs a speaker's bureau to get
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book about victims of high profile crimes and she has a young son, whose middle name is ronald. >> ron was a good human being. >> reporter: her father, fred, was awarded the rights to simpson's book, "if i did it: confessions of a killer," which goldman says he considers a true account of how simpson killed ron and nicole, something simpson continues to deny. kato kaelin is still in los angeles and among his many projects, has a clothing line. kris jenner, well, you know. >> i wish to assert my 5th amendment privilege. >> reporter: as for mark fuhrman, there was never any evidence that he planted anything. however, he did plead no contest to one count of perjury for lying at trial in connection with those audio tapes and was sentenced to three years probation. since then fuhrman has appeared as a commentator on the fox news channel.
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chris darden ever tried another case for the da's office. clark still practices law as an appellate attorney. she's also an author and has a new novel coming out entitled: "blood defense," where the main character is a hard-charging, ambitious defense attorney. chris darden has also written several books and started his own law firm specializing in criminal defense. >> never answer a hypothetical question from a reporter. >> reporter: carl douglas is still practicing law and has a small shrine to his mentor, johnnie cochran, in his office. judge lance ito retired in 2015 after serving more than 25 years on the bench. the once mostly-white lapd is now much more racially representative of the city it polices, though far from perfect race relations have dramatically
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the city's black community. >> and we hope that that injustice will be prevented in a civil trial. >> reporter: and dan petrocelli, he is still practicing law in los angeles and now lives in brentwood, not far from where o.j. simpson once did. but simpson's rockingham estate was sold, and the new owner demolished the house in 1998 to build a new one. and finally nicole's condo, it's still there with a remodeled exterior and a new address nuerbugaing busloads of and that mountain of evidence that was supposed to guarantee a slam dunk case? most of it's still around. buried deep in the lapd's archives. that's all for now. i'm lester holt.
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right now on wral ms. a mother tells us about a terrifying moment, finding her daughter found in a closet and bound with duct tape. how density reagan -- how nancy reagan would react to the current party we will talk about that. there were heated jabs at the debate in michigan. we begin with nancy reagan, the country is paying tribute to the one of the most influential women. >> she died of congestive heart failure, she was in her home and she was 94 years old. mourners have been leaving flowers. a hearse was escorted by police and secret service to the funeral home.

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