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chaos that last morning of april 2011. in little kingman, kansas. vashti seacat was dead, her house burned around her and a husband and two little boys were just beginning to understand what had happened to them. the can't believe it stage, just like her siblings, kathleen and rich. >> like i believed somehow it wasn't true. you plea with god or you just want a miracle to happen. >> no miracles to be had. that might have been the end of it really, an awful tragedy, but these things do happen and for all but loved ones are soon forgotten by the rest of the world. except those volunteer firemen weren't quite sure what they were dealing with. so they took the prudent step and called in the fire marshall, the atf, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms.
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and exposure to the scientific side of things. >> that morning, atf agent doug monty showed up to have a look around. >> if you look at it from the front of the house, all you really noticed was the fact that part of the roof had collapsed as you made your way around back, there was very, very heavy fire damage to include collapse of the second and third floor, which is significant. >> really the front facade was up and the rest was badly damaged? >> it wasn't down, anybody going by could tell a significant fire had occurred inside on the second and third floors. >> you heard there was a body inside. did you hear anything else about it? >> normally when i arrive at a scene like that, i'll arrive with the on-scene investigators, the fire chief, local officers and they had informed me that, as the first arriving officer got there, he made contact with brett acat ae indid his was ie. they also told hithat w e rst reders aed, wiows in master
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backwards. and just from conversations her and i had had, i knew. i just -- i knew. >> what did he sound like? >> no emotion. very calm. no tears. no hysterics. just -- >> very matter of fact. >> i'm hysterical. i'm not married to her and she's not the mother of my children and i'm hysterical. but he wasn't. >> a week or so later, brett drove down to oklahoma to speak directly with kathleen and her husband. >> and he had answers for everything. like why she did what she did. why she thought what she thought. it was like a script. answers for everything. where normal people would be confused. there was a picture of her that was a poster size picture on my fireplace, and i looked over at it and said she was such a good mother, and i broke down and he said, oh, i'm over that. i'm just kind of angry at her
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>> but they had to admit that brett's social interactions had always been a little cold, sometimes inappropriate and his reaction to vashti's death was not out of character. >> he didn't like people. he more wanted to isolate my sister and have her all to himself. i almost felt like vashti and the children were more of a possession than -- >> they were his. >> like your clan. >> everybody stay away from my stuff. >> yeah. so it was a different kind of love than maybe what i would define as love. >> early on, at least according to her siblings, vashti questioned her decision to marry brett, wondering if she should stay in the marriage, that is until she found out she was pregnant with the first of her sons. >> i do think brett treated her well while she was pregnant.
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to be having sons. and the seacat name was going to be, you know, pushed on. but several times in their marriage, it didn't feel right. i know she missed family. she wanted to reconnect with friends. she felt forced to not have the same friends. and that bothered her. >> did it change the way she was or personality? >> those boys were her life. so i think she was so focused -- >> focused and wrapped up in the children that she probably didn't notice it like we did from the outside. >> by the fall of 2010, said kathleen, vashti was miserable again. she was feeling depressed then and so she and brett started seeing a therapist together and alone. but things didn't get any better. and so in the spring of 2011, vashti filed for a divorce. >> this wasn't a spontaneous, i think i'll get divorced. and i know she had thought it
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>> she had had enough of him and told kathleen so. >> she said he's a grandiose narcissist. it's not going to get better. it's not going to change. >> but was vashti depressed as brett was saying? not anymore said kathleen and rich. they talked to her all the time they said. and though she was sad about the divorce, she was looking forward finally to a happier life. she felt liberated, they said. was excited about her job, was losing weight, starting new friendships and planning a vacation with you. >> and a concert and a hawaii trip and a springfield trip, and we had just gone shopping the week before, and the clothes were still in the bag at her house. in fact, she had so many things lined up for us to do that i was thinking i can't keep up with her. >> so they didn't buy brett's story at all.
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she was anything but. >> the wednesday before vashti died when brett was served with the divorce papers, she spent that night with their sons at a friend's house and was going to stay there until friday when brett was supposed to be out of the house. that was the plan, said kathleen. >> he got ahold of her on thursday and told her to come home, that she owed it to him to let him say goodbye to his kids. he told her he couldn't be out by friday, he had nowhere to go. his parents didn't even know they were contemplating divorce. he didn't have any friends to go stay with. he said he needed a few more days to get out. could she please come home and let him tell his boys goodbye and just talk. i begged her to not go and she said, kathleen, my only way out is to try to reason with him. she said i'm not a monster. i'm not a monster. he has nowhere else.
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friday about dinnertime. >> the whole conversation was hey, sis, how are things going in light of the situation. everything she said was, well, brett's having a really hard time with this. and brett's really struggling with this. >> it hurt her. it hurt her that he was so torn up. >> less than 12 hours later, vashti was dead. kathleen and rich told investigators that's the truth as they saw it. vashti, made it look like suicide and because he was a man who actually trained law enforcement officers -- >> you were worried because of beat the system? >> oh, yeah. he would brag about it. he had books. he knew how to do it. >> brett seacat under scrutiny. >> i would have expected his t to havsome tof
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