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all right, everybody, listen up, listen up! item one is what you've already heard on the news media. we finally got a make on the creeper. [ cheering ] he's this maniac that's been on the rampage. he's a suspect on at least nine murders both here and upstate, in addition to sexual assaults and god knows what else. now, late last night, the state-police forensics managed to lift a print from this guy's last appearance upstate. from that, they managed to make a positive i.d. the guy's a jailrat, name of albert sawyer, male, cauc., 5'8", and 140. there's a full description in your hot sheets. there's also a mug shot. now, this same photo is gonna be plastered in all the papers as well as on all of the news programs.
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of exposure also buys a huge increase in false sightings, and it ups the risk of copycat incidents, and we also pay a price, which i don't have to tell all of the tour patrols, in general community anxiety. general anxiety -- that means when everyone in the city sleeps with a piece under his pillow. yeah, that's what it means, john. and it also means that i'm gonna have to pull tenelli and galva off street patrol because the department's commandeering two uniforms from every precinct for temporary assignment to their domestic security evaluation program. it also means that every poor slob who forgets his door key or who is selling brushes door to door runs a good chance of getting whacked. especially if he's white and 5'8". now, if this maniac is upstate, i hope they catch him up there. i don't care if they catch him in timbuktu. but if mr. albert sawyer is on our streets,
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[ speaks spanish ] [ engine sputtering ] get out! no! get outta here! ayudame! ayudame! stop! ayudame!
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all units, attempted 213, melton and hillside. suspect is said to match description of albert sawyer. subject of a.p.b. considered extremely dangerous. 2202. 5th and broad responding. acknowledge. 2203. [ siren wailing ] hey, man! [ yelling in spanish ]
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all right! police officer! put that gun away! put it away! get out of my way! i gotta go in here! stand back! you all stand back! get back! look at this. i don't want nobody touching me. nobody touching anybody here now. get back! come on! get back! come on! get him in the car. i mean it! you stay away from this car! stay away from this car. if you so desire and cannot afford one, an attorney will be appointed for you without charge. do you understand these specific rights? yeah. don't you think we oughta get him to a hospital, bobby?
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[ siren wails ] we got him! we got him! what's your name? i'm who everyone's looking for. dispatch. we have a 911 -- armed robbery in progress, surplus store, corner of peebles drive and 124th street. [ slow piano music plays ]
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okay. make way. come on now. let 'em through, people. let 'em through. make way.
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do you feel sorry for your victims? did he get miranda'ed? yes, sir. give us anything? well, sir, he says he's the one we're looking for. chief daniels, chief daniels... stan... composite hit him right on the button, huh, captain? we have to set up a temporary press room down in roll call. we have to keep these reporters down there while we bring in witnesses for the lineup. real 3-ring job, huh? frank, your office. stan, i'm gonna work squad room the rest of the shift, help out with logistics. good going, luce. melvin, make sure all those media people have press passes, i see. so police are eligible for the reward money for the capture of this creeper fella. yes, i know. i realize i'm only talking to the chamber of commerce, sir. yes, i do realize that other organizations are also contributing money to this fund. yes, sir. i'd be glad to talk to you some more, but i'm gonna have to get back to you. i will, i assure you, real soon. you've got an arrest report to file, andrew. yes, sergeant, i do. yes, police are eligible. i heard the conversation. you want to get a guess to what this guy just gave me
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one quarter of a million dollars. are you serious? so, worse case, we only get half of it, right? that's $62.5 each. you're gonna get a heart attack before you spend -- guys, how about some pictures right here? pictures. you, you, you, come over here. you have your picture made, okay? stand right up here against the wall here. like this here. take it. hell of a thing for us, huh, frank? i was afraid they were gonna capture him up north. they think he had just come off a bus. so how are we handling it? where are we having the press conference? we're checking the credentials in roll call. great. we'll do it down there. i understand the good folks in the neighborhood roughed mr. sawyer up a bit before our uniforms arrived. he's suspect in four murders in that area. i'm trying to remember why it would have been a bad thing if they'd finished him off. for the people at the podium, i want the cops who made the bust, the civilians who were involved in the capture -- of course, you, frank, standing right beside me. hill and renko were the arresting officers.
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once in a while, it all comes up 7's, hey, my friend? we're gonna make every damn edition. joyce... did you draw sawyer? at least through intake. i can't believe the guy's file. just for openers, we're charging in 3 rapes, 2 a.d.w.s, 2 b and es, a kidnap, and 4 counts of murder, special circumstances. wait till you hear from the outlying districts. have you seen him yet? just going in. ask him if he knows any good therapists. miss davenport, interrogation "a." would you wait right outside the door? [ door closes ] my name's joyce davenport, mr. sawyer. i've been assigned to represent you if you don't have the means to hire a private attorney. right. have you made a statement to the police? i know what to do.
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after you were arrested? you tell me. they're going to be taking you to a lineup any second. tell me if you were hurt while you were being captured or afterward. it was the people in the street. do you know what takes place during a lineup? i understand. there are going to be people -- victims in the crimes you're suspected of -- i said i understand. look, you're making me afraid, i don't want to have to conduct a defense that way. but if you're trying to frighten me, i want you to stop it. i ain't trying to frighten you. all right. i'm sorry. let's go on. [ telephone ringing ] belker. hi.
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n't know what that means, robin. either it is time or it isn't time. i'm coming home. don't go anywhere. i love you. you people aren't gonna find out anything more up here. now, go downstairs to the press conference. mick, is it the baby?! is this it?! i don't know! maybe! [ all yelling ] chief, why did you decide to go public with the creeper's picture, chief? was it because the police weren't getting anywhere on their own? i have been proud of law enforcement in our department and throughout the state since this nightmare began three weeks ago. the simple fact is that given the high degree of public awareness and concern about the so-called creeper's activities,
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e the entire community to assist us. that kind of cooperation is always desirable. [ all yelling ] the community did more than just assist you. we understand that they actually caught the guy. you are not going to sell police-civilian relations in the capture of mr. sawyer having been adversarial, gentlemen. the fact is, we are deeply indebted and grateful to individuals like mr. sanchez here for their preliminary work in bringing the so-called creeper to bay. congratulations, manolo. thank you very much. yself. you'd make a fine one. why don't you apply? you mean that? you've demonstrated your bravery and your public spiritedness. and those are the very qualifications the department is looking for. i'm a vietnam veteran, sir. that'd help, right? i've been on unemployment for the last 19 weeks, and besides reward money, i could use this job. mr. sanchez, you fill out an application, and i will see to it personally. i'd also like to thank -- god bless you, chief. god bless you.
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[ applause ] chief daniels...
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[ tires screeching ] [ horns honking ] is this it? this is it. this is it. hey, move your car! i want to get to work!
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[ honking continues ] let's go! come on, man! move your car! [ shudders ] number three. i think that's the one. can you say definitely? yes. number three. thank you, mrs. prince. that's all we need. congratulations. you picked the suspect. that was him?
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hi. hi. finished with intake? i suppose it was routine... but his eyes -- the way he looked at me, frank, i was terrified. he's not exactly your run-of-the-mill defendant. sawyer deserves a lawyer who's not too frightened to give him a defense. different lawyers are right for different clients. you think i should withdraw? capital case, automatic appellate review. could be three or four years out of your life. yeah. it was just the first intake. i saw a replay of your press conference, furillo. you think i talked too much? [ laughs ] how you doing, stan? who ordered that stuff? i knew you'd have a mob scene here, so i figured, hey, people gotta eat. i got crullers here. i got three different kinds of danish.
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jerry, i appreciate the thought, but it's only gonna make for more crowd control. got any sandwiches? sandwiches? yeah. they should be along around noon. this food is not for the uniforms. it's for the press downstairs. you know where roll call is? yeah. yeah, sure. you got it, stan. stan, any chance of getting a look at him? who? abraham lincoln. who do you think? the creeper. what is he, in a cell downstairs? jerry, please, i got my hands full today. , all right? hey, great score for you guys, huh, norm? the emperor wacko. what do you want? i got some stuff that might be in the background music, some items that may be connected to this creep. the minute i was approached, i hurried over. what kind of items? watches, jewelry. this chick's been fencing his stuff all along. you knew this before, and you didn't get it to us? no, i didn't know. she just told me the story. how'd you leave it with her? made a meet for a couple of hours.
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i got to get a warrant. you'll be wearing a wire. hey, look, sid, don't get all hurt on me now, all right? i didn't mean to wound your feelings. i mean, i'm a human being, too, norm. you think i would know about a guy like this without giving him up? forget that he's a monster. off the reward money, i could retire to ft. lauderdale. mr. lopez, i have your name, and i have your account of the incident. what you gonna do about it? put it in my report. i want to see. meaning what? you're up for a taste of that reward yourself. how do i know what you're putting in there? you're lucky you're standing in a police station, pal -- you filed a job application, and i've got your name in my report. so would you now please just leave? both of you go home. you got it was me that hit him with the baseball bat? 'cause that's what slowed him down. these guys ain't giving up 10 cents of that reward money. this is the second time you have called me a thief, so i strongly suggest that you andale out of here before i refry your beans, boy. come on, paco. get out of here.
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you spell his name right? yeah, i spelled his name right. i don't like your tone of voice neither. mr. sanchez? yeah? could you come here a second, please? on this application form that you filed -- my eyes are going -- is that a 3 or an 8 in your social security number? 3. oh, and this here -- you didn't fill in this block. "have you ever been convicted of a felony?" he told me to leave that blank. who was that? the police chief. i was convicted, see, but it was a long time ago. it was when i was just a kid. this was a juvenile offense? i robbed a store, and i did a 2-year bit when i was 20. the police chief said i was gonna get this job. um, mr. sanchez, i think that the department has regs on accepting an applicant who has a felony jacket. that's how they gonna do everything, man. get the chief on the phone. i'm gonna file the application.
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e chief because he said he was gonna handle this for me! [ pants ] [ moans ] are you all right? i'm fine. [ panting ] [ moans ] take it easy. nurse! no, mick! this woman is in terrible pain! i'm all right. you're in pain! nobody comes! mick, will you take a break? no. i want to stay here and -- and help you. just go. go ahead. take a walk. all right. you sure? yeah. honestly. i think i'll try to take a nap. all right. i'll be back in a couple of minutes. you're all right? yeah. all right. [ siren wailing ]
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i'd be asking for five figures. yeah, but are we sure it's all from the creeper? he put it from his hand to mine. sometimes, i would touch, like, a brooch or something, and i hear the voices screaming. you should see a doctor about that, alice. he made me fence for him, sid. i was too afraid to tell him no. he was basing all the time. he was crazy. sometimes, i'd give him money even when he didn't have anything to sell. that's how bad he scared me. you gotta put this guy on scholarship. you want to know why i was so scared to do anything? you want me to tell you some of the things he did? yeah.
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are you smiling for?" he said, "hey, alice, everything comes off." i didn't know. [ voice breaking ] i thought he was asking me to strip. he said he -- he said he tore this woman's face off with his own hands. "everything comes off, alice." [ sobbing ] oh, god! oh, my god! i don't want to talk about it anymore. okay. well, you want this or not? it's $1,200. yeah.
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ms. davenport? what is it? what's wrong with him? herb elman. you said you had urgent news about my brother. i'm afraid i stretched the bounds of veracity a bit there. i wanted a chance at you away from that zoo. wait a minute -- joyce, did you follow the larry larson case? this isn't about my -- there were 51 other executions in the last 9 years. did you ever wonder why larson got more exposure? you listen to me -- i made over $200,000 for larry larson and the heirs to his estate, and believe me, if i'd been larry's lawyer's agent and he'd been as beautiful as you are -- even if you wind up attaching yourself to one of the principals in this case, you and i have had our last conversation. would you at least take my card?
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you holding, ardis? you got 40 bucks? [ paper rustling ] how's this look? like andrew jackson and the hamilton brothers. all right. bye, boys. how long? five minutes, man. wait in the lobby. dr. ketchmar to second-floor nurses' station.
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hospital security, sir. you want to take your hands off me?! you're in a narcotics- dispensation area, pal. what's going on, tony? search his pockets. i bet you'll find 40 bucks worth of drugs. you'd better come with me, too. let's straighten this out. the only thing you're gonna find in my pockets is $40 worth of concert tickets! let's go inside there and straighten this out. if ladelow from the times calls, tell him i'll be back at 2:30. we can talk about politics, the creeper, whatever he wants. what about the mayor? i'm late. tell him i had a nooner. hey, chief! they're giving me a runaround about my police application.
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tion. hey, chief, can you just give me a second, all right? i didn't know you had a record, mr. sanchez. that was another life back then, chief. you promised you'd help me! i'm not god. we do have application requirements. so how come they let liars and promisers in, huh?! i caught your creeper! me and my wife, we risk our lives! for which you have our gratitude. here's my gratitude! you want my gratitude?! let's handle this carefully. this is it?! this is what i get?! i have been authorized to that area for 11 years! i misunderstood your conversation in the men's room. mr. belker's wife is expecting, gentlemen. he's under considerable stress. then why don't you get him back on the maternity floor?! well, if you're done with him, i think that's exactly what we'd like to do. no problem here. all right. enjoy the concert. i hope your baby takes after its mama.
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don't feel too badly, detective. this sort of behavior isn't all that uncommon in expectant fathers. we call it paternal parturition psychosis. i'm a cop. i thought they were making a drug deal. the syndrome can manifest as skin irritation, hives, eczema, in addition to the delusional episodes. this was not delusional. my mistake. i suppose you're gonna tell me you growl like that all the time, too. stan? captain. how are you holding up? i'll make it. you know, this sort of thing brings out every angle guy and bing-bong in a forest. i hear they're setting up special holding for sawyer on michigan avenue. i don't care where they put him, captain, so long as it ain't here. raymond said 3:00. after that, he's out of our hands.
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want a ride to arraignment? half an hour? sorry about the excited-law-student routine. from where you are sitting, it's a different kind of experience. it's who's sitting next to me. what's he like? i don't think i formed any rational impressions. i was reacting so strongly to my own feelings. filing change of representation for albert sawyer. what's going on? i don't know. mr. sawyer? we decided to change. no offence to you. your son's agreed to this? this young lady albert's lawyer? this is her. marty dignan, ms. davenport. a pleasure to know you. how do you know my name? in certain circles, we hear a lot about a brilliant, enabled public defender up in these parts... getting a little deep in here. ...who's married to a precinct captain. if you want to recommend that your son change lawyers, that's your prerogative, but if mr. dignan has suggested to either of you that i'll provide anything less than full and satisfactory representation because i'm married to someone in --
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i've asked mr. sawyer to consider. you don't really want to stay on this thing, hmm?
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who contributed to the composite drawing? doesn't that seem like too much right there? that's 20 extra people. well, how long's that gonna take? yeah, well, can i suggest to you that your distinguished citizens-advisory commission
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who actually made the capture, whoever those cops were? uh-huh. i understand. thank you very much. how long? eight months. how many claims? 42 as of 2:30. it's gonna help. thanks, sid. sorry i didn't grease her more, but i, uh, i just couldn't listen anymore. yeah, yeah, no problem. i'll see ya, sid. excuse me. i'm one of the people involved with this man. you're here for the lineup. yes, sir. i can identify him. what's your name, sir? frederick spears. you, you go downstairs. sir, you can come with me. captain furillo, i'm with the post gazette, sir. nothing more from here till after the arraignment. i think i have a hot tip for you.
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what about it? they never gave out pictures. i don't know what the guy actually looks like, but the spears that got beaten up by the creeper, that man was in a coma till six days ago. i don't see how that guy could be him. excuse me. look straight ahead. number 6. thank you, mr. spears. i got him, didn't i? off the record, yes. what happens now? you're the last i.d. for now. we're taking him to court to be arraigned. when does he go on trial? probably not for quite a while. frederick spears? would you go with this officer, please? what the hell, frank?
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hey, sergeant jablonski told me to bring you this. all right for the sarge. how many you got back there? just one. must have sent extra. there you go. thanks. [ laughs ] my uncle's been in a coma ever since it happened. the doctors say it's gonna be permanent. he won't die. he'll just stay like he is. that's a terrible thing, mr. spears, can't take your uncle's place, and you have to realize your identification of mr. sawyer isn't valid. i just wanted to see him. i can't explain it. i just had to see, face to face... see who he could be... to do these things.
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he'll get what's coming to him, man. [ door closes ] sarge. how's it going? how come we're using outside food? what do you mean? you sent this guy jerry in with food. get some uniforms down here. stop it, man! you're making me dizzy! where is he? where'd they take him?! jerry? leave me alone, stan! are you crazy? i mean it! where'd they take him?! don't be a damn fool. drop the gun before you get killed. i had prostate surgery three years ago, stan -- a tumor. i don't care what happens to me!
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i explained to ms. davenport that when you spoke to your dad on the telephone, you gave him permission to get a private attorney. uh-huh. if memory serves, it was joey leo's dad who contacted me originally in his defense. i think i originally was contacted by his father in that case, too. if that's what you want, i'm willing to turn over your defense, mr. sawyer, based on mistaken ideas about my loyalties. i am married to a police officer. he's actually the hill street captain, but i secure a higher percentage of dismissals and acquittals for clients arrested in this precinct than any other lawyer. any other public defender. any other lawyer. i don't know you. if you're guilty of the crimes you'll be charged with, i don't pretend i'll be sympathetic
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or resourcefully as i can. end of speech. i gotta decide now? we're about to go to court.
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stan, forget you're a cop for just a minute. don't you wish i'd killed this maniac? no. i don't believe it. suit yourself. all right, now -- now, gimme the straight goods. jerry, the straight goods
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and you're supposed to make allowances for friends, but when i see you in here waving a piece around pulling all of this "avenging angel" crap, a screwball is a screwball. maybe you got better intentions than this other wacko, but i'm glad you're both gonna be locked up. take his picture. you're gonna that a.r. on sawyer in? well, see, what the delay was, sarge, trying to put their name down on our arrest report so they can get that reward money. i wasn't gonna say anything, renko, but now that you brought it up about greedy people -- that call, that 213 on sawyer today, that was in our sector. your sector? yeah, our sector. no, it was all units, wasn't it? it was our sector. we acknowledged. we were trying to acknowledge -- and you got there late! what's the problem! i'm just getting frosted. every time i go by you today, you're on the phone. you're trying to get your little snout
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reedy. forget it. you know, sergeant, if it makes any difference, there's about 50 people trying to get this money. and i'm out of line. gentlemen! say, quite an armful you got there. busting the creeper's gonna close down half our actives, lieutenant. i'm on my way to his arraignment. what for? fascination with the abomination, observe the phenomenon firsthand. you guys care to join me? no, thanks, lieutenant. they say there's a lottery for admission. hope you make it in, lieutenant. phenomena? you live and learn, neal. i thought the guy was just a scum bucket. disorderly conduct and threats against a public official. according to the arrest report, you attempted forcible entry at the office of police chief daniels. mr. sanchez, you threatened battery against the chief. your honor, this incident resulted from a minor misunderstanding which has been cleared up. we would decline to prosecute. where have i seen you, sir? this a return engagement?
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last few days. you may have seen mr. sanchez on television today. i helped catch the creeper. is that so? should have quit while you were ahead. dismissed. bailiff: albert sawyer -- statute violation 783 through 7, 1217, 1244, four counts of statute 148. counsel's been arranged? yes, your honor. martin dignan, your honor. i believe mr. sawyer wishes a change of counsel. your honor. want to help us here, mr. sawyer? i want him. meaning mr. dignan. so indicate. why'd you change your mind? i was just making him sweat a little. what are you talking about? he's getting all kind of money for his story, but they want this lawyer. who wants it? that guy. some kind of agent.
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so ordered. [ spectators murmuring ] [ siren wailing ] [ siren stops ] paco lopez, he's sitting right around the corner. you know where he's at? he robbed me, and then he sits there. all right, get in the back. [ siren wails ] paco lopez! there he is! okay, great. get down on the floor. on the floor! [ siren stops ] put your hands up, paco!
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what's the matter? what, are you crazy? come on. paco, you're under arrest -- assault, robbery. you guys ain't gonna give me any straight money, man! this is my only way i got to do it! i don't know what you're talking about, pal. the only thing you're getting this way is busted. damn it! damn it! [ siren wailing ] kill himself! okay, ma'am, step over here, please. all right, folks, just step back! it's your old friend manolo. ma'am, stand back here, please. manolo! put the gun down, manolo! combat situation, it's a different story, man! over there, a man's word is something you can count on! over there, you can bet your life on what a man promises you! do not discharge that weapon again!
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they expect you to stand still for it! manolo, i know you're upset at what happened today! i got handled! i got robbed! listen to me now! nobody's gonna get nowhere talking like that, pal! i was gonna be a cop, man. i helped catch him. yes, you did! i did! you're damn right you did! we helped catch him, man. now...what do we got to show for it? now i ain't got nothing! look at my car! man, i was gonna be a cop. give me the gun, manolo. manolo, let me have the gun.
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there i was rattling off statistics about my rate of dismissals and acquittals. i felt like a soap salesman. i didn't know your office kept those kinds of statistics. we don't. but dignan made me so angry telling sawyer i was in bed with the precinct captain. well, when he's right, he's right. [ chuckles ] then when sawyer said he wanted me to represent, i heard a little voice inside -- "nice going, davenport." i didn't want to load the dice while you were deciding, but i'm glad you're not defending him. [ sighs ] five years in company with that. it may take someone who feeds on all the hoopla and glitz surrounding him. i think maybe sawyer has the right man.
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d the day off capturing that damn creeper, and i'm gonna end up going to jail. if we was gonna pop you, do you think we'd be sitting here trying to sober you up? you ain't the only person that's had some heartaches today. you guys got some police chief. he doesn't make the rules, mr. sanchez. he could have busted you. you were down there trying to threaten him. he is a jerk, though. [ laughs ] we just saw somebody on tv, and he looks like you, and, well, we were wondering -- yeah, that was manolo. he's the guy that captured the creeper. little girl, do you recognize me and my partner? we were the ones that was -- manolo, tell her about it. i was the guy that hit him with a baseball bat. he came into my apartment and tried to attack my wife. i heard a noise in the hall, so i go out,
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my house, and he's attacking my wife. so i grab the baseball bat, and i knock him down. then i start beating on him, and he runs out the window, and i chase him down the fire escape and into the hall and down into the alley. and i corner him, and i start beating on him, and he can't get away. that was me -- manolo sanchez.
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push. robin, give me a good push. come on, honey, push! good. more, robin. come on. good. okay, relax. relax. do your breathing. yeah, steady, steady. do your breathing. it's coming again. working up some psychogenic hives, detective? bear down. bear down. bear down, robin. okay, bear down! there's the head. there's the head. can you see the head?
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t is. here it is. here it comes. here it comes. robin...robin, it's a boy. [ crying ] hi. oh... we have a boy. we have a son. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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[ airplane engine roars ] [ sputtering ] it won't come back. we're right over the city! god! we're gonna go down! call the tower! there'll be cops. [ beeping ] i'm sorry it had to be like this. oh, please!

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