locawsl nees weath lnd local news weather and sports. >> have a great morning. we'll see you then. w good morning. missed opportunity after a kidnapped girl spends 18 years held captive by her alleged rapist. the ordeal could have ended sooner. now a search for other potential crimes. outbreak. suspected swinlu cases are already on the rise as millions of kids head to college campuses. how bad could it get? and remembering senator kennedy. a grieving family mourns the loss of its pate tree ork. >> we just needed someone to hang on to. and teddy was always there.

to hang on to. >> a celebration of his extraordinary life with songs, story and laughter as the kennedys prepare to say a final good-bye, "today saturday," august 29, 2009. captions paid for by nbc-universal television good morning, everyone, welcome to "today" on a saturday morning. i'm lester holt. >> and i'm amy robach. it has certainly been an emotional week and so many people have paid tribute to senator kennedy from the very important to the every day average american whose lives he touched. >> we saw the flag-draped coffin. 50,000 people have filed by the last couple of day. last night could amount to an irish wake. great story, laughter and an honor and tribute to senator kennedy. we'll talk more about that coming up and also the shocking and incredible detail answer an

18-year long kiss knapping ordeal. jaycee dugard reunited with a mother she lost so many years ago and the man accused of kidnapping and raping her, all reportedly undergoing counseling. they're looking for other victims and missed an opportunity that could have meant freedom for jaycee and her children years ago. we begin with today's events in remember brarchs of senate ted kennedy tk. right now lying in repose at the kennedy library in boston. laters this morning a funeral mass at the our lady at the basilica in boston. president obama will deliver the eulogy. and later the senator will be late to rest at arlington national cemetery near his brothers john and robert. we begin live with kelly

o'donnell. >> reporter: good morning, lester and amy. today we will see edward kennedy the colleagues from the senate come to pay they're respects. victoria kennedy, his dow, will greet 79 current and former members who served alongside ted kennedy over the decades. this morning especially with the rain, the mood is somber, but last flight was plenty of story-telling and laughter. ♪ irish eyes >> reporter: to remember ted kennedy the people and music he loved most filled the room. comforted ted's children with thanks for sharing their father with all the cousins who had lost their own. >> the truth of the matter is that for so many of us, we just needed someone to hang on to, and teddy was always there. to hang on to. >> reporter: eyes filled with tears and rooms filled with

laughter. >> two weeks ago as i was coming out of surgery i got a call from ted. his unique voice, loud and booming as ever, well, he roared, between going through prostate cancer surry and doing town hall meetings, you made a great choice. >> reporter: conservative republican orrin hatch disputed the heated political battle. >> remember one time he got mad at me, demanded to come to the office, i brought him in, he started yelling at me and finally i said, wait a minute. i wrote a song for you and vicki. he said, you did? i said, yes. you want to hear it? he said, oh, yeah, and forgot all about his anger. >> reporter: after more funny story, john mccain and john kerry turned centermental. >> i think'm going to miss him more than i can say. >> teddy at the helm steering his steady course, sail on, my

friend, sail on. >> reporter: caroline kennedy remembered her many childhood trips with ted around the drive from hyannis port this weekend. >> i realized it was our final history trip together. now teddy has become a part of history, and we have become the ones who have to do all the things he would have done for us, for each other and for our country. >> reporter: when the procession moves from here at the john f. kennedy library to a grand church in boston, that is a very special place for edward kennedy because it was there he went day after day for his oldest child kara going through cancer treaent earlier. and see his grandchildren, the youngest taking part in the mass and teddy jr. and patrick will speak about their father. lester? >> thank you, kelly o'donnell. now here's aim. >> lester, thanks. nbc's savannah guthrie is

outside our lady of grace where president obama will eulogize senator kennedy. savannah, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, amy. the president is here in boston. as you mentioned, he will deliver the eulogy for senator kennedy, his former colleague and also his friend. this will be a personal eulogy but it won't be a lot of anecdotes. i'm told it will reflect on kennedy the impact on country. of course, there is a personal connection between senator kennedy and the president. there was a key moment in the 2008 campaign when senator kennedy endorsed then senator obama and senior aides say that made all the difference. of course, there are a lot of former kennedy staffers now on the obama staff, including somebody on the speech writing team. this is a personal effort for many members of the president's staff, and i should mention also we'll have all but one of the former living ex-presidents here to pay their respects to senator kennedy. >> savannah thrie, thanks so much. now here's lester. >> amy thanks. senator kennedy will be laid

to rest near his brothers john and robert in arlington national cemetery later today. nbc's andrea mitchell has more from washington. andrea, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, lester. when the senator alives at andrews air force base the motorcade will proceed to the place he loved so dearly, the u.s. capitol. it will approach the senate step on the east side of the capitol and there lined with more than 100 alumni and current members of the fabled ted kennedy senate staff. the funeral procession will pause for a moment of pray. these are the people who outside ever the immediate fily knew the senator best. they loved him for his dedication to ideals, hisar legendary kindness and presuchous work. the procession c lvsy nniaan pennsylvania avenue, past the memorial museum andthrod un e lincoln memorial and across the bridge to arlington cemetery. the same route that the funeral procession for his brothers passed. the senator was a frequent visitor to arlington, not only to visit his brothers and not

only on november 22nd, the anniversary of the assassination of john f. kennedy. also many, many times to visit fallen soldiers from massachusetts who died in service in iraq and afghanistan. so this day will have layers and layers of meaning for the kennedy family, for all of those who served the entire nation. >> andrea mitchell, thank you. senator kennedy's niece, maria shriver sat down with david gregory with her memories of the senator. we hope to have that a bit later on. apparently we don't have that tape. msnbc contributor mishgs ban iggal is with us. you have a lot of stories to share. what will be on your mind during this service? >> well, a lot will be on my mind, lester. one will be a very personal notion that the idea the other day that senator kennedy left

hyannis port and cap taset the last time is something i think a lot of people are still trying to come to grips with. the reality of him in that home, on that beach, on the dock, on his boat, a huge booming laugh. the concern for others. i think that will be on the minds of both myself and everybody else in the mission church here. >> i was watching the memorial last night, and joe kennedy was speaking about the fact he and his brothers and sisters needed a father, and john and caroline needed a father, and here was ted, uncle ted, who really became that father figure. talk, if you can, about the hole that is now left in this family. >> well, it's an enormous hole, lest. i mean, the idea that senator kennedy was of washington and of the world, obviously, is a real one, but the reality is that senator ted kennedy was teddy to assorted nieces and nephews who

will lost and fatherless when their fathers were taken by assassination in dallas and l angeles in 1968, and to see him with his nieces and nephews and his own children and the role he played, making nearly every christening, giving brides away, caroline kennedy at their wedding, baptisms, funerals, he was always there as joe kennedy alluded to last night and i would imagine the absence of ted kennedy in that family will leave an enormous hole a huge void that frankly will not be filled. >> it's almost easy to forgete was the kid brother and lived in the shadows certainly of jfk and rfk, but they're frozen in time. they died as young men and didn't really get to fulfill their legacy and promise. in contrast to edward kennedy who lived almost a full life. so when we compare him side-by-side to his brothers, how will history look at him? >> you know, i think you can make a strong face that, as

spoken to last evening at the wake, thatresint kenne in his 1,000 days captivated the nation. robert kennedy in the 85 days ever his campaign challenged the nation, but edward kennedy, as vice president biden mentioned, in 17,000 days in the united states senate changed the nation. actually changed the way more people live than either of his two brothers, and i think when history is written, both the short history, as people are starting to do right now, certainly enough, and the long look back as senator edward f. kennedy's career, i think people will find he was perhaps the greatest legislator since daniel webster. >> i'm almost hesitant to ask the next question because it puts a lot of question on the family, bu but it's a natural one, who among the kennedys emerges as somehow to carry on this legacy or role? is that an unfair question, and the second part, will someone step forward? >> no. i think it's a fair question.

a question asked now for three or four day, longer than that, because of the indication that senator kennedy's illness was terminal. who takes that role? i don't think anyone knows. what that role will be going forward will be far different than it was with teddy kennedy. you mentioned earlier, i think one of the key points about understanding who ted kennedy was. he was the youngest child of his family. he was the runt of the litter. the little fat kid at the end of the table who had to fight for a roll and a piece of turkey on thanksgiving day. he didn't want any fights growing up. he was a conciliator at every table he sat at, whether the united states senate in the caucus room, whether in a joint conference committee with house members or whether it was in hyannis port with the extended family fighting over who's going to run for this or who's doing that. he liked to calm things down and come to a consensus and getim things done. now, who can do that among that family? that's anybody's guess. >> mike barnacle, a sad day for you and all who knew and respected senator kennedy. thanks for spending time with us

this morning. we do appreciate it. >> thank you, lester. it is now 12 part the hour and time for a check of the morning's headlines. for that we turn to cnbc's melissa francis at the newsdesk. >> good morning, everyone. we begin with danny now downgraded to a tropical depression but still causing dangerous surf and rip currents up and down the east coast. the weather channel's jim cantore joins us from chatham, massachusetts with more. good morning, jim. >> reporter: yeah, good morning, melissa. it was a rough day for surf yesterday. the outer banks of north carolina. surfer, a great thing, you're out in the water. a beachgoer, a lousy weekend complements of the second named storm in so many weeks here. once again in massachusetts beaches closed down. certainly on a day when we remember when the worst hurricane to ever hit the united states, danny, will never get a chance to reach that status. reporting from the southeastern part of massachusetts, that's rather wet and cold this

morning, jim cantore. back to you. >> thanks. danny's rough surf along the north carolina coast have wes cuers searching for a 12-year-old boy body boarding just before disappearing in the water. waves only about five feet tall but the undertow was very strong. on friday the l.a. coroner's office officially declared michael jackson's death a homicide. the autopsy revealed jackson had a legal cocktail of six different drugs in his body when he died including the powerful aesthetic propofol. the report could mean criminal charges against jackson's doctor, dr. conrad murray, still being investigated. and deejay am was found dead in his new york city apartment friday. police responded to a call from a friend who hadn't heard from the celebrity disc jockey for days. foul play is not suspected. last year dj am survived a fiery plane crash where four others died. a spectacular liftoff, the

space shuttle "discovery" launched just before midnight on its way to the international space station. take a look at that. astronauts are delivering thousands of pounds worth of supplies to the space station, including a $5 million treadmill. and finally, there are two winning lottery tickets last night, the mega millions jackpot worth one-third of a billion dollars split between winners who purchased tickets in san gabriel, california and the bronx here in new york. the lucky numbers drawn are, are you ready -- 1-17-31-37-54. meball number, 31. we went in on a bunch of tickets, i did arrive at 5:30 this morning. didn't work out for me. >> didn't purchase that in the bronx? >> no, no. >> thank you. >> nbc meteorologist bill karins here with the first check of the forecast. rain here, hot and dry wther out west. >> the fire, horrible.

air condition quality, let's talk about what we're dealing with with danny first off. last night we lost danny. actually absorbed but a strong storm over north carolina. call it almost a summer nor'easter that's going to move into new england. it's going to be an ugly coastal day from new jersey's coast especially over long island, rhode island, including the funeral procession. boston, soaking rain, large waves as the beach, an ugly saturday. the rest of the country feels like fall. good saturday morning. it's cloudy and humid outside here in the nation's capitol on your saturday morning. plenty of clouds out there. most of the heavy rain is

offshore. these bands will combine to kee that's your weekend forecast. amy? >> bill, thank you. now we are going to talk about those wildfires raging in southern california. bringing los angeles and covering the city in a denen cloud of smoke. there are four fires burning and right now the most dangerous one just north of los angeles. miguel is outside the fire in lake view terrace, california. good morning. >> reporter: it promises to be a long, hot day for firefighters here at the station fire, more than, there have been more than three mandatory evacuations, more than 1,000 homes threatened. it promises to be a long day for crews, especially because this fire refuses to lay down. through the night, and into the morning, fire rages. tinneder dry brush fueling

towering flames on the move. the orange glow and often at times this fight is far from over. across southern california this week, four major fires have burned more than 10,000 acres, and counties. the fight for containment is a difficult one. first, voluntary evacuations. >> they're not letting anybody up there. >> reporter: followed quickly by mandatory orders. more than 1,000 fled from their homes playing hopscotch through a series of canyons fanned by powerful winds. >> this is the first time in my lifetime that fire has been so close. >> reporter: the la pinata fire also known as the station fire remains the biggest threat. thousands of firefighters were called in to beat back the flame. as an arm of water-dropping helicopters attacked the fire from the air. fire continues to chew across the angeles national forest, at one point closing in on hillside homes, from million-dollar views into a different type of

breathtaking business. for now, many neighborhoods appear safe. some evacuation orders have been lifted. few homes were damaged. but the weather, like the fire here, can turn on a dime. bone dry brush, gusting winds and soaring temperatures remain a dangerous combination. >> very hot, and humidity dropped off to what we considered a critical level. >> reporter: fire season in the west has just begun. and it's already off to a fast start. as of late last night, the station fire has charred more than 5,000 acres. it's only 5% contained, not to mention temperature, expected to be in the triple digits and air quality will be terrible. amy, back to you. >> miguel, thanks so mu. >>once again here's lester. four years ago today hurricane katrina made landfall near the border between louisiana and mississippi wreaking devastation all along the gulf coast.

katrina's powerful winds wiped out entire neighborhoods in mississippi, and although at first it seemed the city of new orleans had been spared a direct hit, with hours it became clear the levees had been breached and the devastation would b great. nbc's ron mos joins us with encouraging new signs for the city. ron, good morning. >> reporter: lester, good morning to you. you will remember that this particular neighborhood with was almost wiped off the map four years ago. in fact, just a few blocks away we saw an iconic image from the storm, a barge sitting in the middle of the street on top of a crushed school bus. there are seens of progress popping up here and there, albeit very slowly. >> you going to eat all of that? >> reporter: at a pastor, charles can always spot a blessing. the pleasures of a cinnamon roll treat with his granddaughter. and among the thickts of brush and mostly his neighborhood today, he still is positive. in fact, his home in almost six

months, thanks to volunteers who built his house. hoping this area will get back on its feet again eventually. >> you see buildings going up, you know it's coming back. all we need is the families to come back. >> reporter: the pace of progress, especially this part of new orleans, can test the patience of eve even the optimist. >> it's discouraging because i know it could be done quicker and better. >> reporter: four years ago chaos flooded new orleans as much as water. boat rescues gave way to more troubling scenes of desperation. >> help. help us! >> reporter: a national potical debate about the government's role in the tu maultuous aftermath. much has improved and a lot of people are working. this contractor is one of them. attempting to turn this schoolhouse back into a home, bus says that is exactly what drives him to keep at it all these years later. >> this is home.

i've been born, raised in new orleans. this is where i lost my parents, grandparents and everybody lives here. i love to be in new orleans. might eventually have to. >> reporter: later bell ringing and ceremonies to honor those more than 1,600 people who lost their lives to katrina. while there are plenty of positives to point to on this long journey back, for a lot of folks it's only just beginning. lester? >> ron mott, thank you very much. still to come, an amazing young man takes his place in the

still to come on "today," new questions about the 18 year long abduction of jaycee dugard. were there any other victims and why did authorities miss a crucial opportunity to release

jaycee from captivity years ago? we'll get answers in a few minutes. college campuses bracing for outbreaks of swine flu. a look this morning who should get the vaccine and how to protect yourself in the meantime all coming up after these messages.

taking a live look outside. a rainy overcast day here in the nati's capitol. a little bit of rain ahead. chuck will have more on that. our time is now 7:26. today the world says good-bye to one of the most influential lawmakers of our time. senator ted kennedy will be laid to rest. nearly 1500 people are expected to attend a funeral mass in boston today. president obama will deliv the eulogy. kennedy's nice caroline spoke about her uncle's legacy during a memorial service. ft unerer fheeral mass,ke odsedily bl wrriv a fey'ed as bs

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chuck bell joining us now. chuck, it looks dreary outside. >> a little on the cloudy and humid side. good morning, temperatures are in the low to mid-70s around town. you can see nothing but cloud cover here. alllags flying at half staff. there's the john f. kennedy memorial center. our forecasted highs today will

be in the low to mid-80s and a 50 % chance of more rain later today. the better outdoor weather day will be tomorrow and cooler weather comes in for monday and tuesday. we are back on this saturday morning, the 29thf august, 2009, with a live look at the our lady of pe pech wool help basilica in boston massachusetts, where in a short while friends and family of senator ted kennedy including three former presidents will gather for his funeral. and back here in new york city, i'm amy robach along with lester holt. coming up this half hour, for the first time the nation mourns a kennedy without ted kennedy leading us through that mourning process. >> his family saw so much tragedy. for the last 40 years ted kennedy helped them endure it

all. coming up, a look back how ted kennedy came to symbolize strength and optimism in the face of so much loss. plus as millions of students led back to college, already getting news of suspected swine flu outbreaks. hundreds of cases reported and authorities are bracing for even more. coming up, how bad things could get and how many of us could become infected and what you can do to protect yourself in the meantime. >> i'm sending my youngest back to college in a few days with lots of hand sanitizers and lots of instructions about taking care of yourself. >> the best way. >> you bet. we'll talk about it. and later meet a remkable n i his teens pulled off feat fuel adults could dream of. spent nine months at sea alone in a 50-foot sailboat to achieve a goal and be the youngest person to sail around the world. we'll meet him late other than the broadcast and talk about his motivation. >> all right. first, new detail, emerging in the shocking story of a young girl kidnapped and held prisoner for 18 years.

jaycee dugard is now 29 and she is being reunited with her mother and her alleged captors are now in jail. nbc's orge lewis has the story. >> reporter: garrido and his wife were arraigned pleading not guilty to 28 accounts, forceable abduction, sexual assault and false imprisonment. meanwhile, police began a new search of the garrido's home looking for a possible connection to the murders of several prostitutes in the neighboring city of pittsburg, california. satellite photos of the property show what investigate, now say was an intricate maze of tarps, tenants and sheds in the backyard that housed a secret prison. the only access was through a very narrow tarp leading to two small ten-foot by ten-foot sheds where jaycee and her daughters lived. inside a crude outhouse and shower, and electrical extension cords providing power for a dish washer. investigators also found an old

car in the backyard, matching the description of the one used in the abduction of jaycee dugard. jaycee was 11 when taken from a school bus stop near her home in lake tahoe, california. sources close to the family tell nbc news that she and her daughters were undergoing medical checkups. >> who knows what kind of shape they're in. basically camping out for 18 years. >> reporter: neighbors said with all the high fences and tarps at the back of the garrido property, it was impossible to know what gas going on there. mr. robinson who lives next door said almost three yea ago his girlfriend looked through the fence and got suspicious when she saw children, knowing that phillip garrido is a registered sex offender. >> his family over e here and the kids, what's going on? you know? and i said, call the police. you know? that's when she called. >> reporter: the local sheriff admitted his people failed to follow-up properly. >> we missed an opportunity to

bring earlier closure. there are no excuses. >> reporter: as a parolee, garrido had regular visits from a parole officer. again it seems no one checked carefully to see what was going on behind the house. >> it appear there's was a false fence, lked like the property ended. you know, again, in the coming days as we review this we'll determine if there was other things that could have been done. >> reporter: and a disjointed rambling interview with nbc station kcra in sacramento, he spoke of being vindicated some day and said he never harmed his daughters. >> a destructive story of turning a pers's life around, and having those two children, those two girls, they slept in my arms every single night from birth. never had ai harmed them. i never touched them. >> reporter: george lewis, nbc news, antioch, california. joining us now, former fbi profiler van sant and dr. janet

taylor a psychiatrist and contributor. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> let me begin with pup the alleged kidnapper, phillip garrido, a sex offender on life parole. we heard the sheriff admit they dropped the ball, missed an opportunity and no excuse especially when you look at this elaborate tent setup in his backyard, the fact people reported hearing and seeing children, is it amazing to you that authorities didn't catch this sooner? >> well, it really is, amy. you know, we have to consider there's about 650,000 registered sex offenders in the united states that somebody has to keep track of. even though this is a population that rio fends, it's rare you get someone who rio fends in this degree. it's a former fbi agent, what bothers me about this case is that investigators, somebody could have taken the extra five minutes and just walked around the yard. if somebody says, here's a registered sex offender who's a little bit nuts, who has kids in ace yard, who doesn't look like

him, that's the time you take the extra five minutes. you look in the backyard, you see a per corunning out in the woods, you say, i wonder where this is going to. at least these little girls, these children, could have been saved perhaps three years ago and maybe long before that. >> dr. taylor, i want to turn to you, because we're hearing more about the victim, jaycee dugard, back with her mother. her two young daughters with them, and she's reportedly feeling guilt about having stayed, even bod bonded with her abductor. this is a pretty common response, though, isn't it? >> certainly in this case, where she certainly was subject to psychological, sexual torture. he systematically with his wife was able to essentially reprogram her personality to make it seem like she had increased fear, guilt and that she could pin it on him. and that he was the link to her survival. >> she was wasn't educated past 11, her children have never seen

a school or doctor. how are they all going assimilate or to get back into any sense of normalcy with society and being around other people and -- just seems incredible what they are up against. >> exactly. she has spent 18 years of her life, more time with him than her family. we need to eliminate normal from the vocabulary and think recovery. it will be lifelong. socially, environmentally, they've been living outside. getting used to being inside and psychologically, the extent of the damage will be felt for years to come for all of them, including her biological family. >> i want to brung you back in. the alleged kidnapper in this case, police are searching for possible evidence he may be linked to a string of murders back in the 1990s, prostitutes who had been murdered. what is the likelihood, given what we know about this man so far and what police may have found he may, indeed have a lot more crimes or a lot more charges he may be facing soon? >> i think it's a high

probability we're going to find other offenses. realize, he's been 11 years in federal prison tore taking a woman across the state line, kidnapped her and raped her. this is some one moo has a lengthy history of doing things. so -- and some of his writings allegedly he talks about his sexual prowess. i think we'll find our victims out there. whether these are victims of kidnapping, sexual assault or perhaps could even include what they're looking at now, prostitutes, who were assaulted and murders, but this guy is going to be good for other crimes. >> all right. krint van zandt, dr. janet taylor, thank you both. in our next hour, the two women campus police officers, instrumental in cracking that case. we'll talk to them live about what made them suspicious in the farris place. right now, switching gears, a check of the weather from nbc's meteorologist bill karins. good morning. >> good morning again, amy. all of these beautiful people came out today.

they are good saturday morning, i'm chuck bell. off to a cloudy start in the nation's capitol the most of the heavier showers associated with tropical depression danny staying well offshore but it is still a drizzly morning in southern maryland on the eastern shore. temperatures are near the 70-degree mark right now. it will be a warm and humid day. a lot more cuds and sunshine. you may get a break or two that's your weekend forecast. coming up next, swine flu fears as millions head back to college. are we prepared for an outbreak? first these messages. i should'. doing more for my high cholesterol. what was i thinking? but now i trust my heart to lipitor. when diet and exercise are not enough,

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op monday a panel's scientists said half of the u.s. population could be infected with swine flu this fall and winter. that's got health officials worried as students head back to college. >> reporter: on college campuses across the country if has already begun. at the university of kansas, almost 200 students have reported having flu-like symptoms in the last week or so. the university of tennessee is estimating 100 suspected cases of swine flu on campus. >> we have antibacterial lotion everywhere, and clor roshgs. everybody's wiping down their rooms. >> reporter: with the rest of the nation's universities in school set to start after labor day, it could be a sign of what's to come. >> in the next few weeks and months will be a very challenging time. >> reporter: earlier this week a committee of scientists that advises the president said that though the pandemic is impossible to predict, a plausible scenario would be 30% to 50% of the u.s. population infected with 30,000 to 90,000

deaths concentrated among children and young adults, but the cdc says they've seen nothing to suggest we'll see those kinds of numbers if the virus doesn't change. >> we were fortunate in the first wave, it came at the tail end of the flu season. we're starting at the beginning of the flu season now and that goes on for months. >> reporter: the vaccine is still in clinical trials and not expected to be available for those at high risk until mid-october and thanksgiving for later for everyone else. this doctor of montefiore medical center in new york says one thing we can count on seeing is a surge of patients heading to the e.r. he says, don't. >> if you're young and healthy, you're going to get through the infection fine. stay home. that's the best thing you can do. >> reporter: here with more on the swine flu is nbc's chief medical editor dr. nancy snyderman. thanks for being here. the operative term in terms of whether the number of deaths would be what the worst case scenario was would be whether the virus changes.

it has not. >> it has not. verdict efficient, spreading very quickly. not a killer virus. just seems to knock people out. the concern is because it's brand new, what we call a naive or novel virus, means that we are, our immunity is lower. that's why the numbers a especially high 30% to 50% infected. and projected possible deaths in the tens of thousands. >> you remember when this first came out, there was something close to a panic. goodness, pandemic. then we realized people weren't dying in masses. as a lot of people only had mild symptom of this. is there almost a concern that people may be lackadaisical, as we get into the winter months? >> my concern is exactly that for two reasons. we've been saying hand washing for so long, people are, fine, whatev. also we kn thathe vaccine isn't going to be available until october. there's a lag between now and when school's getting back and when the vaccine will really be available. i worry that with multiple messages coming out of the federal government and this lag

and because it's not a killer virus, that there may be some complacency on the part of some people. >> looking at pregnant women, parents of young children, children under the age of 4. >>he federal goverent came out and said pregnant women jump to the top of the list. regardless of what trimester you are in or if you're a brand new parent, you are most vulnerable. >> some of the deaths, hasn't this virus unlike the normal flu targeted more young adults? >> yes. unlike the regular flu that gets people at both extreme ends of the chronological spectrum and the infied, the average age infection with h1n1 is 19. average age of hospitalization is 37. because the young people in this country have no natural immunity and that's the concern. >> who's going to college now? 19, 20-somethings. >> the immunization group, pregnant women, people taking care of other people and young american. you and i will not qualify to go to the front of the line because

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ted denty was bornto power -- ted kennedy was born to -- when his older brother was killed the last son became the patriarch of the kennedy family and his voice spoke the nation's grief. here's nbc's anne thompson. >> reporter: ted kennedy was always there to say good-bye. in the painful days of november 1963 he walked with sister until jackie and brother bobby behind president kennedy the casket. he was just 31. a short five years later, a nation's heart would break with ted's voice at bobby's funeral. >> those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today pray that what he was to us, what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world. as he said many times in many parts of this nation, those he

touched and who sought to touch h him, some men see things as they are and say why. i dream things that never were and say why not. >> reporter: all too soon at age 36, he was the patriarch. his beloved mother rose would live to 104. >> as she did all our lives, whether it was when i walked back from the rain from school as a child, or when a president who was her son came back to hyannis port, she will be there ready to welcome the rest of us home some day. >> reporter: and of jackie he said no one ever had a better sense of self. >> she graced our history and for those of us who knew and loved her she graced our lives. >> reporter: hes would preside over the funerals of bobby sons david and michael, then ten years ago, john f. kennedy jr., like his father, gone too young.

the senator turned to irish poet troy explain the loss saying, we dare to think in that other irish phrase that this john kennedy would live to comb gray hair, but like his father, he had every gift but length of years. ted kennedy had length of years. and the burdens that come with surviving. for toad, anne thompson, nbc news, boston. c and wll be right back, but first, this is "today" on nbc.d

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flags night flying at half-staff to honor the hate late ted kennedy. today the world says good-bye to one of the most influential lawmakers of all time. 1500 people are expected to attend a funeral mass in boston. president obama will deliver a eulogy. a three-hour celebration of the

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temperatures right now in the low 70s in washington.

highs it's in the mid-80s with a 50% chance of showers. no flash flooding and no widespread severe weather expected. so that is welcome news.to. good morning. saying good-bye. >> we just needed someone to hang on to, and teddy was always there to hang on to. >> after senator ted kennedy the family and friend gather to celebrate an extraordinary life, today, the final farewell. missed opportunity. a kidnapped girl set free after an 18-year ordeal. now local authorities admit they missed their chance to find jaycee dugard years ago. was it wrong.

and fantastic voyage. a teenager sails around the world enduring danger, loneliness on all on his own. why did he did it? we're going to ask him as he arrives back in port. good morning, everyone. welcome back to "today." i'm lester holt. >> and i'm amy robach. coming up in his half hour, remembering senator kennedy. right now the senator lying in repose at the john f. kennedy memorial library in boston. >> later his body will be moved to our lady of perpetual help basilica inon.. oenenes boston presiden obamaho fwnto bostston late last night from martha's vineyard will deliver the eulogy. >> this afternoon the senator will be laid to rest at arlington national cemetery near

his brothers john and robert. >> we have correspondents covering all events. we begin with kelly o'donnell in boston. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lester. and good morning, amy. right now the kennedy family is gathering at their hotel preparing to make the journey ba here to the john f. kennedy library for another day of rebranses for ted kennedy. also today here we will see some of the colleagues that have shared his days in the senate over these many decades. 79 current and former u.s. senators will be here. many of them traveling together, leaving this morning from washington. victoria kennedy, the widow of edward kenned will greet them all personally, and it will be a time for them to come together and say their farewells. one of the things you saw, a bit of an image of, and it continued through the night, is the flag-draped casket was always in the company of a military honor guard and a civilian one as well, with former staffers,

friends, constituents who have been at the side of that casket through the night. more of his friends will pass by today, and then there will be the journey to the church, and the church is so significant, because during the time when edward kennedy's first child, kara, was going through cancer treatment, she's a survivor of lung cancer, several years ago he spent his days praying for her there, near her treatments. so that church has particular sentiment for him. we will see members of the kennedy family, and some different roles today. he has four grandchildren. they will participate. there will be others from that youngest generation who will take part in the funeral mass. we will also hear from his sons, teddy jr. and patrick, who will share their rep braremembrances well. >> kelly o'donnell for us this morning. thank you. here's aim. savannah guthrie is outside the basilica. good morning, savannah. >> reporter: good morning, amy. president obama arrived here in

boston last night, and this morning has already had a private meeting with the widow of senator kennedy, vicki reggie kennedy. after that meeting, of course, they'll come here to the church where the president will deliver a eulogy. i'm told it will be a personal statement, but one that really focuses on the impact senator kennedy has had on the country. of course, there is a special bond between president obama and senator kennedy. at key moment in the campaign of january 2008, senator kennedy came out and put his weight behind president obama, endorsing him. he has told me that was a moment that had a tremendous momentum for the campai. it meant a l personally to the president, in many ways senator kennedy at that moment passed the torch to president obama and i'm told the president was humbled by that. there are a lot of former kennedy staffers who now work for the white house. a couple will be honorary paul be pallbearers and one who worked

on the eulogy used to work for senator kennedy. >> thanks so much. here's lester. amy, this afternoon senator kennedy will be laid to rest in a place he visited as a mourner often. arlington national cemetery where two of his brothers buried. nbc's andrea mitchell has more from washington, d.c. andrea, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, lefter. the senator's return to washington today does resonate with echoes of so much sad history. the funeral procession goes from re pse there from base to the the senate steps for a prayer on the east side and an honor of more than 1 hundred alumni from the senate staff watching from the steps. the crusade will go past the museums and monuments to the lincoln memorial and across the bridge to arlington cemetery. the same route his two brothers traveled all those years ago. the senator will be buried near his brothers down a gentle slope that commands the finest view of

the capitol anywhere, and attendants of the cemetery say over the years senator kennedy has been a haunting visit to thatplace. not only on the anniversary of his brother'ses's death but throughout the year to mourn them. and attending burials for fallen soldiers from massachusetts, killed in iraq and afghanistan. and there he will rest forever among them. lester. >> andrea, thank you. senator kennedy the niece, maria shriver, also a member of our nbc family sat down with "meet the press" moderator david gregory to share her memories of the senator. >> what was that final year like? for him? >> for me it was watching this final year, was beautiful, because i think, you know, there have been a lot of things written about teddy over the year, and it hasn't all been complementary, and i think for someone to have that kind of love come at y is a very

powerful thing. that very few people, i think, ever experience in their lifetime. >> maria shriver speaking with nbc's david gregory. we turn now to nbc's tom brokaw who spent many years covering the kennedys. tom, good morning. good to see you from your home in boston. >> reporter: last night a bathering of time in a matter of speaking. e memorial service the john f. kennedy library. what was particularly touching, tributes from two of his conservative colleagues, orrin hatch who said he came with a conservative law on washington to set out to slay in a political sense ted kennedy and wound up being one of his very closest friends. and senator john mccain, of course, who is a republican presidential candidate in this last cycle. they both gave warm and glowing tributes to ted kennedy, the politician, that too few peoe probably saw behind the scenes. he was always there in a most generous way, flying all wait to

utah with his wife vicki when senator hatch's mother died so he could be at the rvic therwere many parts to senator kennedy. a lot of them were dark parts, but in the last couple of days, we have been saying, he redeemed himself in so many ways, and i think at the end of his life, and the tributes you heard last night, they knew that this was a man who was on the public stage for a long time and left an enormous imprint on this nation. >> he will be missed, of course, tom, on capitol hill as a friend to so many. in terms ofis legislative influence, in what ways will he be missed in the day-to-day business of the u.s. senate? >> reporter: well, more than anybody else in the senate. he was able to pull two sis together. he had very strong, very liberal views which continue to drive the conservatives around the bend when they think about his legislative record. but the people who worked with him would always say he was a guy who if you get in the room,

he could find common ground. my own experience with him, you could be at a cocktail party or convention and there would be a ruckus good time. if you asked a political question, his whole demeanor changed and he would cut right to the chase. better than anybody else i dealt with as a reporter on capitol hill he knew where all the pressure points were, where the possibilities were for compromise, and what roads not to take, because it would end up as a dea end. he was master of the political process on capitol hill. >> tom, his flaws were well known. you and others over the last few days talked about the fact that the latter years of his life in many ways were devoted to years of redemption, but sometimes it's hard to forgive yourself. did you ever have the sense that heelt that he had earned and found true redemption? >> reporter: i think that he did. i think that his life with vicki was an exceptionally important part of the last part of his life. that he found true happiness and real love there.

but he was on a tear, personally, as everyone know, but always got up in the morning and went off to do the work that he needed to do. a friend of mine, who described people who could go out all night long and party and drink hard, he'd always say, they're the kind of guys that can take a punch. ted kennedy in his time could really take a punch. he 0 could be out all night long, get up the next day and get to business of what he saw were under represent evs of the country. in the background of his life became a statesman. a larger than life figure who served almost a half century in the u.s. senate and in so many ways left a greater legacy politically than either his iconic brothers john f. kennedy, the president, or robert kennedy. >> tom brokaw, thanks for sharing your memories. good to see you, tom. >> reporter: okay, lester. tom will be anchoring nbc's coverage of senator kennedy the burial at arlington national cemetery later today. that happens at 5:30 eastern

time. you can catch more of david gregory's interview with maria shriver tomorrow morning on "meet the press." let's get a check of the other headlines from krpt nx's melissa francis at the newsdesk. >> good morning to both of you and everyone again. we begin in california, wildfires ramping out of control, the movie dangerous burning just north of los angeles. joining us live from lake view terrace, california, good morning, miguel. >> reporter: good morning, melissa. this is the largest, the most dangerous fire burning in southern california. the station fire has been responsible for three rounds of mandatory evacuations, and at this hour, more than 1,00 hom are threatened. at last check, more than 5,000 acres have been scorched. containment at only 5%. this fire began on wednesday, and like so many in this region has died down, and then kicked right back up. hot conditions and bone dry brush have really fueled this blaze. nearly 3,000 firefighters and an army of planes and

water-dropping helicopters are trying to beat those flames back. the big story this afternoon will be triple digit temperatures and potential winds. air quality will be a major problem the entire day. melissa? >> nbc's miguel, thanks so much. the iraqi journalist who threw a shoe at former president george bush will be released from prison next month. the 30-year-old report ert is being released three months early, because, if can you believe it, good behavior. prince's william and harry's country home a scene of burglary. according to the "sun "a newspaper, the burglar didn't know the house belonged to the royals and was arrested after sneaking on to the ground. the princes were not home at the time. it was the garage sale to end all garage sales. thousands showed up at the great california garage sale on friday. more than 6,000 items are on sale including 600 cars. the department of general services is reporting sales topped more than $1 million. just at drop in the bucket

compared to the $26 billion state budget deficit. i saw a really night green gnome on sale ring a turre ing ing a . it's gone. something got it. >> thanks. >> bill karins has another check of the forecast. >> good morning, lester. what a sleepy, rainy start to the day in new york. a great crowd. everyone has umbrellas. right? so the votes are in. everyone voted, and you have the cutest umbrella. see her little umbrella? who do you want to say happy birthday to? whose birthday is it on the si sign? she's gng to be shy. and daddy's birthday. isn't it? >> yes,s it is. get rid of the rmyn this afternoon. let's talk a little about the forecast, because not only do we eave the rain and all the tropical moisture in the east, talk about the heeft that happened out west. the last couple of days brutal palm springs, heat warnings out there, not supposed to be this hot this time of year and, again a very, very dangerous day.

otheraries that will be hot, san antonio, 97. watch areas like boston and providence, flooding is likely today. could be about two to four good saturday morning, i'm chuck bell. it is a gloomy and gray start in the nation's capitol on your saturday morning. here's a check of the radar. there are showers down towards charlottesville moving towards the washington area over the next couple of hours. not much in the way of heavy rain just yet. maybe a rumble or two of thunder. temperatures in the low 70s around town. high temperatures into the low to mid 80s, that's a look at your weekend forecast. hope it's nice where you are. lester? still toome on "today," the youngest person to sail around the world alone. how he did it when we meet the amazing young man who just sailed into port this morning, right after these messages.

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made it back to england and the record-breaking sailor has now docked in portsmouth. congratulations. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> you've spent the past nine months at sea. i've got to ask how it feels to finally be docked this morning and how do you plan to celebrate? >> it is absolutely incredible. i mean, i couldn't believe the crowd lining the dock complete completely. i was overwhelmed. it does feel really great to be back on solid ground. i'm looking forward to a bed that doesn't move at night. >> probably it will feel strange. sailing arranged the world is a feat in and of itself, but you were 17 -- 16, turned 17, you were all alone. what were some of the biggest challenges you faced as you were navigating the seas? >> the biggest challenge is that you are completely alone. there's no one to help you. there had been the trip, saying

every job you have to do and sleep as well. >> how do you sleep jp i understand you had problems with your autopilot. how did you sleep during these nine months? >> i would sleep in spurts of 40 minutes and only get about four hour as night. i'm kept very busy. quite startling how busy you're kept, because it's quite a handful. >> you r into your fair share of rough seas on the blog you kept during your journ journeys. you described surfing down 50-foot waves at break neck speeds. what was it like facinthose conditions alone. did you ever think at a certain poini'm not going to make it. this isn't going to work? >> no. i was always head-set on the finish. sometimes i thought, what am i doing here? some of the best moments were exhilarating. it's absolutely brilliant.

>> you accomplished this at 17. what's next for you? besides probably sleeping for the next nine months? do you just go back to being a regular teenager? do you have your sights set on sothing else? >> i am looking forward to going back into college, i have a year left. at the same time, looking for bigger challenges and there's definitely going to be something next, that's for sure. >> does it involve sailing? i know you've been sailing six you were 7? >> probably involve sailing, i'm sure. >> mike, congratulations once again. glad you're back safe and sound. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. and we'll be rht back. but first,

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today one of the most influential lawmakers of all time will be laid to rest under dark and rainy skies. good morning, it's 8:26. the world says good-bye to senator ted kennedy today. nearly 1500 people are expected to attend a funeral mass in boston. president obama will deliver a eulogy. last night a three-hour memorial service and celebration of the senator. >> i looked up and there was this one star hanging low in the sky that was just bigger than all the rest and brighter than all the rest with a twinkle and

sparkle louder than all the others. i know it was jupiter but it was acting a lot like teddy. >> his mass will include seven d honor honor ayl pirauyirlaushi to eed tlo ro ped cs.ololitapap entering fromto r d en fthpr en den cown constitution avenueo arlington national cemetery arriving at 5:30 p.m. weather is up next. ow

chuck bell joining us now. it's very gloomy. >> yes, it is but it is still the weekend so, all is not lost just yet. cloudy skies will give way to rain showers this afternoon. we do need the rain. it's been on the dry side the month of august. all of heavy rains are staying offshore. not going to be a good day at the beaches thanks to dangerous rip current and big waves. for us, temperatures in the mid-70s, a cloudy and humid day, showers likely off and on. one or two rumbles of thunder can't be completely ruled out. if you're looking for a better weather day that will be tomorrow with cooler weather, a taste of autumn coming back by

monday and tuesday. >> sounds perfectly lovely. thanks, chuck. our coverage of senator kennedy's memorial services continues at 9:00. brian willi we are back on ty morning, august 29, 2009. a big thanks to all the folks gathered out on our plaza spending this very rainy saturday morning with us outside. i'm amy robach along with lester holt. >> a nice crowd. >> it is a great crowd. and a big one, too, with all of those umbrellas. still to come this half hour, two university of california at berkeley police officers and this morning are hailed as big heroes. >> yes.

something about fip isle garrido that didn't sit right with the two officers. what they did next led to an arrest and freedom for jaycee dugard. coming up we'll meet the two campus officers and find out what tipped them off when we talk to them live. >> then on a much, much lighter note, we're going to talk about guilty pleasures. we were asked to come up with ours. mine involved food in a lot of ways. >> yeah, mine, food and actually i think one of the ones we shared was candy. swedish fish specifically, i believe. one of my big, big guilty pleasures. i have a lot of fun eat eating those. we're going to talk about when they're fun, when the guilty pleasure is fun and when they canerhaps be something more serious and how to know the difference between the two. we'll talk about that. >> a great half hour ahead. first one more check of the weather with meteorologist bill karins. >> good morning. on this rahny saturday. a tour of the midwest. from hutchison, kansas, here to sweet 16 from minnesota and then texas here.

kansas. a midwest day out here. all the way down here, and it is your birthday today. and you're from wisconsin. >> yes. >> your name? >> john. >> not sure what's going on with our midwest friends, we love it. dealing with weatherwise out here, danny disappeared last night. literally absorbed and sucked into, what we'll call a summer nor'easter heading up new england. feel like a tropical system. a lot of rip currents, don't be in the water. what happened with bill last weekend. some areas four to five inches of rain. cape cod, boston, up into maine. that's the problem area today. the other thing we'll watch with interest is what's happening out in the west. it is hot. we have dangerous heat. we also have horrible fires still burning near los angeles. good saturdayininmornrng,g, g, everne, i'm cck ll it's cloudyndgray, a little bit on the dreary side in the nation's capitol. all of our flags still flying at half-staff.

as you look in the distance, you can see the jfk center for the performing arts. a couple of lonely sprinkles now and more showers down towards charlottesville coming our way. dot stray too far from your umbrellas already. what's your name, buddy? >> samuel glover. >> samuel glover. you see yourself on tv? >> uh-huh. >> how do you look? >> good. >> i think you look good, too. let's send it inside to lester. >> bill, thank you very ch. now to the story everyone is talking about. the 18-year-old kidnapping case of jaycee dugard. on tuesday, two police officers at the university of california at berkeley became suspicious at phillip garrido's behavior. this morning lisa campbell and officer allison jacobs join us live from california. good morning to both of you. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> thank you.

>> we begin lisa with you. take me back to earlier this week when this man presented himself on campus. i understand he wanted to stage some sort of event. tell me about your first interaction. >> my first interaction was when he came into my office on monday, he wanted to schedule an event, and so initially i allowed him to explain to me what type of event it was. he wasn't clear in his thoughts, appeared to be really unstable. but more alarming was the two little girls that were behind him. >> and so you asked him to come back tuesday. when there was an interview and officer jacobs, you become involved here. you look at the two daughters. what, as polic officer, started not adding up in your mind? >> what first struck me, and us togeer, was the coloring of his two little girls, who were very pale. their appearance was very drab. they didn't interact like normal young girls would act, and the

intense stare from the youngest one just kind of made me hair stand on end. >> and lisa, have you shared your concerns with officer jacobs? >> yes. actually, i went to ali and asked if she would run him based on the observations i made monday. then after she came back with the information, i asked her sow sit in on the interview. >> so you run a background check, and he cups up as a registered sex offender. officer jacobs, what happens then, now? >> so i tell lisa he's on parole for rape and knapping, and we were immediately concerned because she said he had two little girls with him. there was nothing in the paperwork that said she couldn't be around children, but i was definitely concerned at that point. so i wanted to sit in with the meeting just to make sure that everything was okay. >> so you've got a registered

sex offender. two little girl whose do not appear to behis. your first instinct? slap the cuffs on him right there? >> no. they did appear to be his. his blue eyes, calling him dad. >> the parole officer said he didn't have any daughters. >> that was much later, aft he had already left. >> i got you. so once you called the parole officer, what steps did he then say he would take? >> the parole officer said he was going to call mr. garrido into his office and tell him not to come back to uc-berkeley campus. and then he said he was going to check up on the family. >> and lisa, what was your reaction when you found out what had happened, and who dugard was -- or who this man was? >> when alley came back with the information it made it much more urgent that we were both able to sit together and make an observation and come together and try to figure out what to do in interests of the children. >> had you heard of th dugard

case? was it part of your memory? >> no. actually, i'm a chicago native. so '91 -- i'm 19, 20. >> yeah. i was in high school. so i didn't remember either. >> when this was all explained to you, what was your reaction when you realized who you had and the re cues of jaycee, that was a result of your work, what was your reaction. >> wow. thank god. >> shocked. very shocked, this is something so huge w wer a part of and honored we could be a part of it and help jaycee find her way home. >> i know you don't willingly accept the label of heroes but i think a lot of folks regard you as that. to that you swha? >> we did what any officer in our sition would do. we're grateful we were able to persist and provide the services that would hopefully help jaycee and her children. >> and i think all police officers are heroes in our eyes. on a day-to-day basis. >> a good answer. a lot of people would agree with both of you.

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good music. >> yeah. >> he said she said. >> right. guilty pleasures. everyone has favorites. foods, tv shows, a little embarrassing and lester and i are no exception. >> i think my number one guilty pleasure is i like to watch old sitcoms, and i say old, i mea "60s old.

"i dream of genie," "hogan's heroes," "gilligan's island." silly, isn't it? >> my biggest guilty pleasure not only involves music and some of the artists i have on my ipod, britney spears, miley cyrus. i'll add mutt i like the bubble gum pop feel-good -- when i'm in a bad mood if i put on britney or miley, i have to admit, i'm in a good mood afterwards rnlgtsz i did a story a couple years ago to overcome my fetish for candy and i went to a hypnotist. >> youave made a decision to permanently eliminate your sugar addiction. but every once in a while i'll get a bag or two of candy and i'll just -- >> swedish fish probably tops my list in candy. >> swedish fish. >> when i'm in college i used to go to the commissary and just have bags and bags of them. >> gummy savers.

>> peanut m&ms. two for mommy one for the girls. >> i don't feel guilty. it's just once in a while. it's a candy vacation. >> so our guilty pleasures actually are bad for you? and is there a healthy way to indulge them? >> somehowt bake a cooking -- candy. i don't know. and good morning to both of you. logan, your presence does not imply that there are any sex issues here. >> guilty pleasures don't have to be sex related. >> but we love having both of you here. i just wanted to clear that up, in case anyone says, i heard -- anyway, rick, the guilty pleshers that make us feel guilty. why do i feel guilty about watching "'60s tv shows? >> guilty pleasures are already in small doses. when you go crazy, that's when it's a problem. my guilty pressure, kfc original recipe. >> finger licking good.

>> but every day. >> can't do it every day. i actually just lost 30 pounds on weight watchers. that was one of the things. i've got to be able to have my kentucky fried chicken every once in a while. >> and, logan, to that point, everyone's guilty plesh sir different. how do we define what it is? >> any kind of behavior, a ticktivety, food, something we like to enjoy secretly but are too embarrassed to admit to. we have so many different ones, we all come from different backgrounds. taboo in one family is not necessarily in the next. >> do you think it's different between men and women? >> oh, yeah. see i like to say to guys we tend to be victims of pleasure. if we like something we don't care what it is. we're going to keep doing it. it's like, hey, it's like -- >> we do it, we just don't tell you. >> guys tell everybody. guys -- >> for example, if were you to hit yourself up side the head wi a hammer a led it, you

would hit yourself in the head again and again. you know? you're a guy. that's how we perceive. >> some of these things really are perfectly innocent. when did you realize, i have a real issue? >> it's perfectly acceptable to indulge in moderation. whatever it is, the on way you can derive pleasure and sanction is from something, then it's probably a bigger issue. if y're sneaking around hiding in in a way a little more malicious wlnchs amy took the swedish fish a minutes ago. >> i don't think i'm sneaking it. they're all around. >> it does become a nightmare, however when it starts to impact other people's lives? >> it can impact relationships. embellishes in swedish fish isn't necessarily a problem. keeping secrets, affects someone else's wealth and well-being, it becomes annish u. every so often, everything in moderation doesn't hurt. >> you mentioned the kentucky

fried chicken. does this call into the cat gopher pleasure revenge. i'm being good. doggone it, i'm doing something bad. >> perfectly healthy. you don't want to deprive yours. >> i find sometimes you go to the guilty pleasure, like on a rainy day, feeling down, you need something to make me feel better. you reach for the swedish fish. >> here you go. >> we heard from rick. what about you? >> television. i love reality tv and i actually like, and i hope he's not watching, watching cartoons with my son. >> nothing wrong with that. >> nothing to feel guilty about. >> i tell him he can't be watching them all the time. >> only bad time to watch them when the "today" show is on. another issue. >> thanks so much. appreciate it. and we'll be back. first, this is "today" on nbc.

in his nearly 50 years of public service, senator ted kennedy was a passionate advocate for the poor, the sk and the suffering. >> as the liberal lion of the senate, he lifted hi booming voice in the senate. here now, ted kennedy "in his own words." >> i came to this body believing that that the privilege of the powerful can look out for themselves, but that our challenge is to make sure we're going to have eve as even a playing field as we possibly can for all americans. >> i'm announcing today my candidacy for the senate of the united states. >> the young man i wanted to see in america where everyone could make a contribution, where a man will be measured not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character. >> each of us must do his individual cause to end the suffering. to feed the hungry.

to heal the sick. to strengthen and renew the national spirit. >> for all those whose cares have been our concerns, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die. >> as long as i have a voice in the united states senate, it's going to be for that democratic platform plank that provides equal quality health care, east and west, north and south for all american as a matter of right and our privilege. >> the fundamental test of our society is how it leads the least powerful among us. >> we must raise the glass ceiling that stretches across our government and our economy

so that at long last all americans will be equal in life as well as in law. >> there is a new wave of change all around us, and if we set our compass true, we will reach our destination. not merely victory for our party but renewal for our nation. >> i love this country. i believe in the bright light of hope and possibilities. i always have, even in the darkest hours. i know what america can achieve. i've seen it. i've lived it. >> we'll be right back.

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good morning, everyone. here's a look at what's making news this morning. today the world says good-bye to one of the most influ ent shal lawmakers of our time. 00 people are expected to attend mass in boston today. a d.c. officer is expected to be okay after being shot in the leg this morning the officer was trying to arrest arug suspect when the suspect grabbed his gun, it went off hitting the officer in the leg. the suspect did not get far. he is in custody. according to police the officer's injury is not life threatening and he should be just fine. two more d.c. police

officers injuredn a crash. a driver hit them near the intersection of ninth and u streets. the officers had stopped on the side of the road when an suv hit the cruiser from behind. the driver of that suv is under arrest suspected of driving drunk. both officers are expected to be all right. we'll have those stories and much more when news 4 "today" begins in less than two minutes. i'll see you then.

friends, family, even congressional foes remembering kennedy who will be laid to rest later today. a d.c. officer shot in the leg after a scuffle with a drug suspect. and the largest jackpot up for grab as. we'll tell you if anye is waking up on mega millionary. good welcome -- good morning, rather. i'm kimberly suiters in f eun yang this morning. we'll cocomplete coverage of the funeral plans in just a moment but first we want to get the morning forecast with meteorologist chuck bell. chuck, it lookse