good morning. campus massacre. what led a former student to go on an alleged shooting spree at a california college, killing seven people and wounding three others? this morning new details on the suspect's past, as a student who was shot shares her harrowing story of survival. where is the ticket? the maryland come claims to be a winner in the mega millions jackpot speaks out, but refuses to show proof to back up her story. is she really keeping it in a safe place or is she making it all up? we're going to hear from her. and we're going rogue. with critics, not so much. sarah palin is here to weigh in on the state of the republican party, her own political

aspirations and she'll try her hand at guest hosting "today," aspirations and she'll try her hand at guest hosting "today," tuesday, april 3rd, 2012. captions paid for by nbc-universal television and welcome to "today" on this tuesday morning, i'm ann curry. >> and i'm matt lauer. we're going to get the very latest on that deadly shooting at that christian university in oakland, california, in just a couple of minutes. meanwhile, take a look at the scene in lexington, kentucky, overnight, where violence did erupt after the kentucky wildcats won the ncaa basketball championship. there was at least one shooting, fires were set, dozens of people were arrested. we're going to have more on that story coming up, as well. >> also this morning we have an unexpected twist in the criminal case against a pro football cheerleader and former high school teacher accused of having sex with a student.

why the alleged victim may refuse to testify in that case and we have a live report on that. >> and singer carnie wilson opens up about her struggles with weight and undergoing a second weight loss surgery in 12 years. what made her decide to go under the knife again? is she happy with her choice? she'll join us live this morning to talk about that. a little later on she'll perform with wilson phillips. and then we also want to mention it is a pleasure to welcome the former alaska governor sarah palin to our program this morning. she's -- oh, man. is she doing her homework? governor, it's nice to have you here. by the way, she told me a funny story. tell everybody what happened when you were coming to 30 rock yesterday. >> oh, geez, matt. nicest lady in the world, she stopped me, asked me where i was headed and i said 30 rock. and she said, come here, i told you, tina fey is here. >> not tina fey. it is sarah palin. we'll have much more with her throughout the morning. >> welcome ms. sarah palin. first, the top stories. we've got savannah guthrie at the news desk, who is in for

natalie. >> good morning, matt and ann. in the news today, a violent rampage in oakland, california, has become the deadliest u.s. school shooting in five years. nbc's kristen dahlgren is there with more. good morning to you. >> good morning, savannah. seven are dead. only three gunshot victims survived the rampage. they were brought here. but hospital officials will not release their conditions. we are learning more, though, this morning about those frantic moments as police tried to rescue survivors while they thought the gunman might still be inside. >> be advised we have live fire. >> reporter: outside the school, sheer panic as students ran for their lives and police search for a gunman. >> we're getting information now that the suspect is still in there reloading. okay? >> reporter: as s.w.a.t. teams stormed the school, police tried to evacuate students. some still hiding in locked classrooms, while victims lay nearby. >> we've got at least five down inside the building. >> reporter: in the end, seven were dead, another three wounded.

witnesses described the gunman as a former nursing student at the small christian school. this man's sister was in the classroom when the shooting began. >> he had been dropped out for about three months and he walked into the class today, and he grabbed the lady that does filing and brought her in and said everybody get against the board, and nobody did, he started shooting at everybody. >> reporter: police identified the suspect as juan go who they arrested without incident at this nearby superintendent. >> as far as we know he was the only person that was involved in this incident. >> reporter: the identities of the victims have not been released but many are believed to be in the nursing program at the small private school. >> it's the kind of pain and situation that we won't understand totally, immediately, but that will leave the community asking questions for a long time. >> now, according to the military newspaper stars and stripes, his brother was an army sergeant who was killed in a car accident in march during special

forces selection training. >> kristen dahlgren in oakland for us this morning. thank you. a big day on the campaign trail with republican primaries today in wisconsin, maryland, and the district of columbia. this as president obama makes clear who he thinks his likely opponent will be this november. republican front-runner mitt romney. in a new tv ad for his re-election campaign, the president criticizes romney by name for the first time, calling him a backer of tax cuts for big oil. romney is solidifying his lead over rival rick santorum. he has reached 50% of the delegates needed to win his party's nomination. we will talk politics with sarah palin coming up. a federal investigation is now under way into the shooting death of unarmed teen trayvon martin. the fbi is gathering information and evidence in the area, as part of a civil rights probe, to find out whether or not martin was shot by george zimmerman because he was black. zimmerman claims he acted in self-defense. an ideologicalically divided supreme court ruled 5-4 monday

that jails have the right to strip search incoming prisoners, even those arrested for minor offenses. the case involved a passenger arrested during a traffic stop in new jersey, because state records mistakenly said he was wanted on an outstanding warrant. the kentucky wildcats have clawed their way to the top of the ncaa championship in new orleans, beating the kansas jayhawks 67-59, and clinching their eighth title since 1998. but the celebrations in lexington, kentucky, quickly got out of hand. one man was wounded by gunfire. dozens were arrested. police say thousands of people took to the streets. several fires were set, and a car crashed into an outdoor bar. a dramatic escape in norway, as a truck driver leaped from his rig as it plunged 200 feet off an icy cliff. he had been towing another trick behind him, it toppled on the mountain road, pulling them both over. the driver in the second truck did not escape but survived the

fall and is said to be in table condition at a local hospital. it is now 7:06. back to matt, ann and al. a real close call. >> dramatic images. thanks, savannah. >> can you imagine? a hollywood movie. >> mr. roker, what's going on weatherwise? >> well, we've got snow to talk about and severe thunderst>> we thunderstorms all from the same storm. ahead of the system you can see we have a risk of two areas of severe storms from austin to tulsa, cincinnati, louisville and st. louis. we could be looking at severe thunderstorms in the ohio valley. texas storms developing already. the rainfall amounts from great bend all the way into the gulf. anywhere from three to four inches of rain. the heaviest rain along the central gulf and mid mississippi river valley. behind the system we are talking about at least a foot of snow in parts of denver. we are looking from denver to colorado springs anywhere from six inches to a foot. good morning. live view from our sky watcher

camera. sun rise on this cold tuesday morning. sun is up and a clear sky. we have temperatures at or below freezing across much of maryland and virginia this morning. right near the bay it's milder. it's in the low 40s there. later today, a rapid warm-up into the 60s to near 70 with lots of sun. clouding up tonight and tomorrow. another mild day on >> and that's your latest weather. matt? >> all right, al, thank you very much. now to the gop presidential race. voters are heading to the polls in wisconsin, maryland, and the district of columbia today. and mitt romney is hopie ining results will help him become the presumptive nominee. fox news contributor and former vice presidential candidate sarah palin is here with her take on the race. she's also the author of "america by heart: reflections on family, faith and flag." governor palin, good to have you with us. >> thank you so much. good morning. >> so if governor romney does well in wisconsin today, and maryland and district of columbia, it seems he is the nominee. are you happy with that?

>> you know, anything is still possible. there can still be a bit of a shake-up. but the numbers are what the numbers are. and yeah, he does seem to be obviously the front-runner. and you know, i've been of the mind-set that anybody but obama will be so much better for our country. >> but you didn't answer the question. are you happy with that? and it doesn't sound like you're happy with mitt romney as the party's nominee? >> anybody but obama. i honestly believe that anybody running on a gop ticket would be infinitely better than what we have today, with these failed socialist policies. >> would you like to see some more choices? a lot of people are saying it is not too late to shake this up at the convention. someone like chris christie or jeb bush or bush or mitch daniels or sarah palin could come in here and shake things up and give republicans another choice. >> there is no perfect candidate. and, you know, i would warn voters to never put their faith wholly in an individual, in a politician, because a politician will disappoint you. but have faith in what that

politician stands for. what their record represents. and in the choices that we have in the gop now, the four gentlemen who are running, they're all good. they all have their strengths. and as i say, america will be better off with any of them. >> let's talk about one of your strengths. when you came on the scene in 2008, you had your detractors. you were a polarizing political figure. but one thing that everybody realized was that you had the ability to stir the passion of your base. governor romney doesn't have that ability. is it a major flaw for a candidate at this stage of the game? >> he will have that ability to really -- >> where's it going to come from? aren't you born with that? >> you know, because people understand that america is at a crossroads right now, and that we have a choice in what direction we'll head. we'll either be able to build on the foundation of liberty, and individual freedoms here in america, and that entrepreneurial spirit or we'll go down the other road of these failed socialist policies that

obama has done to this country. >> but governor romney in your opinion can all of a sudden develop that skill? he can get the guy sitting at the bar in alabama or the woman at the factory in des moines to feel he's one of them? >> you know, he will be able to do that, if not romney, if one of the other gop candidates happen to surpass romney in the delegate count, and whomever it is, matt, yes, will be able to really coalesce, we will be able to coalesce around that nominee, and make sure that voters understand that they have a choice here in which direction america's going to go. >> let's talk about the economy. you think it's improving? >> for whom? maybe for those some on wall street. but not for the millions still unemployed, not for those whose houses are under water, not for those who are having to settle at this point with a job that is not fulfilling for them financially. >> but jobs are coming back. the numbers will come out on

friday. they could be 200,000 new jobs created, manufacturing is looking better, the stock market is looking better, consumer confidence is up. >> we still have fewer jobs today than when barack obama took over. and we have debt being incurred at $3 million a minute our government is spending too much money, and people are understanding that we cannot keep going down the path that we're headed. >> even the speaker of the house, i sat down with him, john boehner, last week, i said is the economy improving? he said yes, it is. and i said, so how do republicans run against an improving economy? he said, you say, it should be better. >> it should be a lot better. >> but is that a bumper sticker that's going to inspire people? >> it should be a lot better. take just one example of an indicator of the economy that is still pretty woeful. gas was $1.83 a gallon when barack obama took over. now we're looking at $4 and $5 a gallon gas. because barack obama has no energy policy for this country. he has thwarted opportunity for

resource development in this country. again, people have a choice. do you want to fire that ceo of our country and replace him with somebody who knows how to allow the private sector to create jobs. how to responsibly -- >> some people say if things seem to get better or be getting better, why would i take that chance and change the person in the white house? >> because things aren't getting better fast enough. and they should be. and people who are hurting, people who are seeking that job, people who want to hold onto their businesses, and to their homes, and to be able to afford to send their child to college, people know that we have opportunity to do even more. be better in america than what we're doing today. >> if mitt romney is the nominee, one of the first real major decisions he'll have to make is on a vice presidential candidate. when you were plucked from obscuritity in 2008 you'd been alaska's governor about two years. you didn't have any real experience on the national stage, and in this era of intense media scrutiny, you took

some lumps. you had mixed results, as we all know. do you think, if mitt romney is the nominee, he should choose someone with more experience on the national battlefield than you had at the time? >> well, you know, i would put up my record as a ceo of a city, of a state, as an oil and gas regulator, up against any of the other potential gop vice presidential nominees last go-around. so you know, i'm proud to stand on my record as a private sector, and a public servant ceo. >> but if you were advising mitt romney, would you say go out and get someone who is battle tested on a national level? >> i would say it doesn't matter if that person has national level experience or not, they're going to get clobbered by the mainstream media who does not like the conservative message. and it doesn't matter if that person has been a known commodity to the mainstream, mainstream media or not. the gop ticket, to tell you the truth, matt, doesn't know what's

coming. they don't know what's going to hit them in terms of double standards being applied to them and the positions that they hold, and the records that they are running on from, you know, personal family issues to anything else. there will be that double standard applied no matter who it is. what i would advise mitt romney, or whomever the nominee would be, don't necessarily play it safe, and do just what the gop establishment expects them to do. and that is, to get somebody kind of just going along to get along, not willing to go rogue and get up and say that we need relentless, and we need sudden reform of our government to put it back on the side of the people. >> governor sarah palin. governor, thank you very much. i appreciate it. i want to mention to people you are going to stick around and join us for our 8:00 hour, which technically makes you part of the mainstream media for that hour. i just want you to know. nice to have you here. >> thank you so much. >> 15 after the hour. here's ann. >> matt, thank you. the jetblue pilot who suffered

an apparent midair meltdown made his first public appearance since that incident last week. and nbc news had the only television crew there as he was let out of the hospital. gabe gutierrez is in amarillo with the story. >> good morning. captain clayton osbon just spent his first night here at the randall county jail. prosecutors are asking that he be held without bond. a judge is expected to rule on that on thursday. but for the pilot's family, this has already been an agonizing few days. seen here exclusively, captain clayton osbon left a texas hospital monday for the first time in almost a week. close behind, his wife. clearly emotional, clutching the arms of her husband's fellow jetblue pilot, all on their way inside the federal courthouse in amarillo, or osbon would face a judge. prosecutors say the veteran pilot started behaving erratically last tuesday, as jetblue flight 191 flew from new

york to las vegas, before making an emergency landing in amarillo. in the cell phone video you can hear osbon yelling before being tackled, curious and worried passengers get up from their seats, trying to see what's going on. a federal complaint alleges the outburst began when osbon realized his co-pilot had locked him out of the cockpit. passengers say he'd been talking incoherently about religion, and the sins of las vegas. >> just out of his mind. screaming things to the passengers, say your prayers, say your prayers. >> reporter: in a written statement, osbon's family thanked the plane's crew and passengers for their compassionate handling of the situation. adding, it is our belief that while he was clearly distressed, he was not intentionally violent toward anyone. back at the ten-minute hearing on monday, where prosecutors asked the judge to hold osbon without bond at the randall county jail, osbon simply smiled at his supporters, and only spoke up when asked if he understood the charges against him. he said, "i do," but did not

enter a plea. as he was escorted out of the courtroom, his wife mouthed the words "i love you." and, in a strange coincidence, another man awaiting trial here in the same jail, charged with interfering with a flight crew. he was on a southwest flight from l.a. last october, that also made an emergency landing here in amarillo. ann? >> all right, gabe gutierrez, thank you so much for your reporting on this story. it is now 7:18. once again here's matt. >> all right, ann, thank you. for the first time we're hearing from the maryland woman who claims to hold one of the winning tickets from that record mega millions jackpot. savannah's back with details on that. savannah? >> good morning, matt. well her name is mirlande wilson, and while she's done plenty of talking, there's one thing she is not doing, showing off her alleged lucky ticket. >> so how does it feel to win the lottery? >> so good. >> for a woman who says she just won more than $218 million,

mirlande wilson doesn't exactly sound all that excited. maybe she's just having trouble taking it all in. >> i'm so shocked i don't know what's going on. >> reporter: mirlande is the 37-year-old mother of seven we told you about on monday, who claims she has one of the three winning mega millions tickets. but when a reporter from nbc's washington station wrc caught up with her monday night at her baltimore home, she wouldn't show the ticket to him. >> where is the winning ticket? is it here? >> i cannot show you. >> reporter: if mirlande does have that $200 million ticket, her coworkers at mcdonald's say they're entitled to a piece of it. 15 of mirlande's coworkers pooled together and asked her to go buy tickets for them. she says she did, at this 7-eleven. and she says she gave them all copies of those tickets. >> the winning ticket is not one of these? >> no, no. it's not one of these. they all have the copies.

she says later on she sent a friend back to the 7-eleven to buy a ticket for her and she said that's the one with the winning numbers. >> -- and know about it. it's by itself. >> so far no winner? >> no winner. >> reporter: maryland lottery officials say until someone comes to them with that ticket in hand, it's all just speculation and rumor. >> we've heard it's somebody who works up the street, the guy who mows the lawn, the ladies in mcdonald's. it doesn't matter until -- >> until someone comes in with that ticket? >> exactly. >> well, no one has come forward to officially claim a share of the jackpot yet. the other tickets were sold in kansas and illinois. >> all right, savannah, thank you very much. coming up, a new wrinkle in the case against a professional cheerleader and former teacher, charged with sexually abusing one of her former students. coming up, why the alleged victim may refuse to testify. but first, this is "today" on nbc. my dad was a union electrician.

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it's 7:30 now on a tuesday morning. april 3rd, 2012. the governor taking over our studios here at 30 rock. that's my dressing room. apparently now her dressing room. and she's taking notes, getting ready for some upcoming segments as she joins us as a guest co-host in our 8:00 half hour. how's it going so far, governor? >> hey, it's great. thanks for letting me crash your dressing room. and now that i have your hair products -- thank you. >> because you know, you need hair products. >> yeah, technically i didn't give you permission to be in there by the way, either. but we're going to have some fun with governor palin down here in a little while. also you're going to be talking to carnie wilson. >> yes, i will be. she's part of the musical trio

wilson phillips and she's also been waging a very public battle with her weight. she underwent gastric bypass surgery back in 1999 and earlier this year, carnie decided to have a second weight loss procedure. so coming up we're going to talk to her about that choice and why she doesn't consider her first surgery a failure. and also, we're going to get lucky, because wilson phillips is going to be performing live for us coming up this morning. they're really going to rock us out because they're playing the music of their mamas and papas. >> i actually listened to them rehearsing a little bit today. >> yeah, i love listening to their cd. >> also "today's professionals" are in the house. this morning they'll be joined by governor palin. they're going to tackle a host of topics, including what some high schools are now doing to fight the trend toward more and more revealing prom dresses. and someone else was supposed to be joining us today, ryan seacrest. he was scheduled to make an announcement here on the show. he sent out this tweet, i'm feeling a little pain from elbow surgery, doctors say no travel for a day, so see you on the "today" show wednesday morning.

see you tomorrow, ryan. >> okay. >> look forward to him being here. >> we like him and we want him here. we begin this half hour with a very serious story. it's a twist in the case against a pro football cheerleader accused of having sex with a student when she was a high school teacher. and nbc's jeff rossen has the latest on the story. jeff, good morning. >> hey, ann, good morning to you. prosecutors now say they have the proof. e-mails, texts, phone records, showing that sarah jones committed a sex crime. that she had a sexual relationship with one of her students when she was a high school teacher in the past couple of years. but, there's a new wrinkle here, because the alleged victim, that teenaged boy, is apparently not cooperating in the case. this is how sarah jones pays the bills. cheerleading captain for the cincinnati bengals. her outfits are short. but in court monday -- facing felony sex abuse charges, she looked demure. sarah used to dress like this all the time.

as a high school english teacher. prosecutors say she got into a sexual relationship with one of her students. >> are there a good deal of forensics in this case? >> forensics are a part of this case. >> computers, e-mails, texts? >> that's correct. that is a part of the case. >> reporter: it was enough for the judge to order this cheerleader, and model, to home confinement. she has to wear an ankle bracelet. same for her mother. >> i'm cheryl jones. >> reporter: a school official herself, charged with covering it up, tampering with evidence. mom and daughter both pled not guilty, but can't have any contact with the victim or his family. but then came a bombshell in court. from sarah's lawyer. >> the victim -- the alleged victim's family is here supporting these defendants today, your honor. the families are friends. >> reporter: yes, the teenager's family, the boy sarah allegedly sexually abused, is on sarah's side. his family sat with sarah's family monday. in fact, sources close to the

case tell nbc news the boy may not cooperate with going forward. sarah, is there anything you want to say? sarah wouldn't speak about that or anything else outside of court. while prosecutors don't need the victim to testify, legal experts say without him at trial, it's harder. >> the jury wants to, in fact, see the victim and they want to hear from the victim what exactly happened to them. if you don't have that, then it's going to be very difficult to convict somebody. >> reporter: but now, silence from the woman who cheers, as prosecutors try to lock her up. >> this is an extremely rare event where you do have a teacher who's very glamorous like this, is a cheerleader, people are going to sit up and they're going to pay attention. >> the trial is now set for late june. one other note here, ann, the chicago sun-times is reporting this morning that sarah jones actually got married nine months ago. she has since left her husband, moved out of his house, and they are now seeking an annulment

through court papers. >> jeff rossen, thank you so much. and now here's matt. >> all right, ann, thanks. there's word this morning of a possible book deal for the texas woman who was seriously injured when she walked into a plane still spinning propeller. savannah is back with details on that. >> it was four months ago today that lauren scruggs life was changed forever by that terrible accident. but as new video just out shows us, it hasn't stopped the fashion blogger from moving forward. with her mom and dad by her side, a very sporty lauren scruggs was out and about on sunday. a wristlet around her severed arm and a smile brighter than the lime green tank she was wearing, the 23-year-old former model is showing the world that her injuries are not holding her back. four months ago, lauren scruggs boarded a private plane with a friend to look at christmas lights over dallas. after exiting the single engine two-seater, scruggs accidentally walked into the still-spinning pro-feller, losing her left hand and left eye. >> from what i'm hearing, lauren

scruggs is doing great. and she's smiling. she's getting back to life after an accident that literally almost cost her her life. >> reporter: as a low-key, but fashional scruggs is photographed near her home in plano, texas, there is much speculation surrounding her recent settlement with the plane's insurance company. last week, after scruggs filed a lawsuit, the two sides reached an agreement. the terms of the settlement have not been released, but e! news is reporting the payout is upwards of $1 million. >> this is not a case where the lawyers are arguing about whether there was pain or suffering. there clearly was pain and suffering. and there clearly was the kind of serious injury that would justify a very significant damage award into the seven figures. >> reporter: scruggs and her family have not spoken out pub linkly about the settlement. but lauren's mother recently posted on the website caring bridge, describing last week as particularly hard, but one filled with abundant peace. besides wearing a brave and happy face, lauren scruggs has kept busy since her december accident.

vacationing in colorado with family and friends, blogging about fashion on her site lo lo, and keeping her fans updated on twitter, tweeting about floral prints to her christian faith. and although scruggs has kept silent there is now talk of a possible book deal. >> there's been a lot of talk that she's going to do a book. if she does, she may use a ghost writer. it's going to be really upbeat, really inspirational, because that's the type of girl lauren is. >> we contacted the insurance company about the settlement. they said it's just a matter of signing paperwork, but would not elaborate. meantime a scruggs family spokesperson would not comment on the settlement or the reported book deal. matt? >> all right, savannah, thank you again. appreciate it very much. let's get a check of the weather now from al. >> hey, matt, thanks so much. we got folks here from elverton, georgia. all right. and look at all -- all -- they're all the way down here, all the way down right over

here. so, whatever you do, don't take elverton for granted. let's show you what's going on,] >> rhelet's show you what's goi on. they're about to throw stones at me now. 80s and 90s in southern texas. 50s in the pacific northwest to the plains. 40s in new england. 80s through the southeast and the mississippi river valley. good news is we are looking at more snow for denver if you are looking for extra skig. mountain snows pacific northwest. strong storms texas into nebraska. also through the mid mississippi and ohio river valleys. >> good morning. storm center 4. here's a live view from the sky watcher camera. sun is up. a blue sky and golden sunlight but it's cold. we are near freezing throughout most of virginia, west virginia and maryland. reagan national at 44. we are down into the low and mid 30s elsewhere. today a rapid warm-up should

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a battle. >> reporter: by the age of 31 the 5'3" tipped the scale at more than 300 pounds. >> weighing 300 pounds is deadly for anybody, if you're 5'3", it can be very tedly. >> reporter: in 1999, after years of struggling, wilson made the difficult decision to undergo gastric bypass surgery. a decision she went public with, broadcasting it overed internet. she saw incredible results, shedding half of her body weight, 150 pounds, and in 2003, four years after the surgery, the singer showed off her new body in the pages of "playboy" magazine. but over the years, wilson's weight fluctuated and her battle of the bulge continued. something she again went public with. this time she appeared on vh1's celebrity fit club. >> as a mother of two girls she says that pregnancy derailed her weight loss efforts and contributed to her ballooning again to over 200 pounds. last year she got a very public wake-up call from tv host

dr. oz. >> your blood sugar is 100. so you're borderline diabetic again. >> i'm borderline diabetic right now? >> yeah. how are you feeling? >> shocked. >> reporter: wilson knew she needed to take action. in january, 12 years after gastric bypass surgery reduced the size of her stomach to that of an egg, wilson made the rare decision to undergo a second weight loss procedure. this time lap band surgery. >> a lap band is a surgical procedure where an inflatable plastic device is placed around the stomach, it constricts the stomach, and makes it into a very small pouch. about the size of an egg. down from the size of an eggplant. >> reporter: wilson is now spokesperson for the procedure, compensated by allergan. >> something has to be done. the scale hasn't moved in two years for me. >> reporter: a decision she broke publicly to her band mates on their new reality show "wilson phillips: still holding on." >> i am going to have another

type of weight loss surgery. >> reporter: experts say surgery is only a weight loss tool, not a magic bullet, and that diet and exercise continue to play an important part in patient success. a slimmer wilson is determined to keep the weight off this time around, and she's already more than 30 pounds lighter. ♪ she showed off an already healthier, fitter figure in the 2011 hit comedy "bridesmaids," another step on her very public journey. so carnie wilson is with us now along with nbc's chief medical editor dr. nancy snyderman. >> hi. >> you're very brave. here you're so public, as always, trying to help other people. >> yes. >> so you gained what two-thirds of the weight that you had lost. >> right. >> after the pregnancies that you had. so what made you and the doctor decide, we've got to do this again, we've got to have weight loss surgery again? >> yeah, you know. i didn't know that that was an option for me. i was at the point where i did need intervention. i didn't see the scale move for

two years, and medically, i mean, i'm 44 years old. i'll be 44 this month. it's almost 13 years after the first surgery, and i needed to take action. i needed to help myself again. and i'm not ashamed to talk about this in public. it seems there's been so much support over the years, and it's still interesting to people, because so many people relate. >> mm-hmm. nancy, 79%, according to a recent study, of patients who underwent gastric bypass surgery, reported some weight gain. so why -- >> well, some is okay. but when you compress a stomach, and sort of reroute the circuitry, the hope is that you'll eat less. as carnie will tell you, that's a big psychological mountain for a lot of women. because we have love/hate relationships with foot. you have to really consume calories intelligently and it requires a lot of emotional support. >> so you're talking about, then, really a commitment and support. >> a total life change. >> so what do you want to talk about, what do you want to say about that? >> this is all very important stuff.

the message isn't, you know, go out and get a surgery today. it is an option for people, okay. but for me, this is about all the years, what i've been through in the last years has taught me a lot. i've learned i've got to take care of my health. this is about health. it's not about what i look like, what the scale says. it's about my lifestyle. >> and as a prediabetic, we know from pretty recent research that surgery and lap bands can help change a glucose level, even in the hours after surgery. so as a borderline diabetic her worst fear is to become a full-blown diabetic. >> that's right. borderline diabetic and for me, now what i feel now, what is the difference this time? i feel the sensation of being full quickly. which i was not feeling. so i have that tool. but, i can't tell you the changes i've made. the changes -- what i do every single day. what i put in my mouth. i'm not eating sugar. i'm not eating flour. >> i suspect you're approaching this as more of an adult this time, mother of two.

>> yes. >> very differently psychological mind-set than you did during the first surgery. >> yes, and i'm teaching my children, these are the habits. these are habits that i am -- i'm laying the groundwork for myself. for my future. for the right reasons. >> so what is your message, then, to anyone listening, who's considering these kinds of surgeries, and you know, in terms of how you think they should think about the actual impact of this surgery, what it can do and what it can't do. >> right. everybody -- we're all individuals. the most important thing i think we need to remember is that we're all a work in progress. we're not perfect. do not be ashamed or be afraid to ask for help. that's what this was for me. i asked for help. we need to help ourselves. but we need support, like you said. total support. >> and surgery isn't first line. but once you have diabetes and you're morbidly obese and you try other things we know the surgery is safe. we know the outcomes are really pretty darn good. but it's not the first line treatment, it's the treatment that saves the life.

>> mm-hmm, well good luck to you. >> thank you. >> i know it looks like you've launched a massive effort. >> i'm so proud. thank you. >> thank you for being here. you're going to sing in a little bit. we're excited about that. listen to that cd you just made. i love it. you're going to be here with the rest of wilson phillips. and also ahead, sarah palin kicking off her duties as guest host for the morning. but first these messages. the dogs and cats at the shelters will break your heart. it's my mission to make sure they all get the best treatment possible. petarmor flea and tick protection

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8:00 now on this tuesday morning. the 3rd day of april, 2012. we've got another beautiful morning here in the heart of midtown manhattan as we say hello to a big crowd outside. they're excited. can't believe the size of this crowd. i'm ann curry, meantime, alongside matt lauer, al roker, and we have a special guest host, sarah palin. >> the start of the hour, you are now guest hosting, and there is some experience here. i mean, you were a sports caster back in anchorage in the day.

>> the stone age, yes, yes, yes. >> so is it like falling off a bike do you think? anything make you nervous about this role? >> not nervous. just very excited to get to be here with all you new yorkers, and all you tourists who are here. >> what is that? >> all right. >> we love to put guests host right to work here. so we're going to throw you in the middle with "today's professionals." are you ready for that? >> i am. i look forward to talking to dr. nancy and to star and to donny. some great topics. >> in the news a little bit? >> a little bit of struggles with her new network. you know, that grit and the guts that she's showing with that. >> and as the mom of daughters, there's also a subject in the professionals about revealing prom dresses. >> yeah. and whether schools and governments should be able to tell a girl what she should or shouldn't wear to the prom. we'll talk about that.

we'll talk about some of those struggles with teen girls, including body image. we'll talk about jessica simpson and what i consider some unfair criticism of her and her weight gain during her pregnancy. >> she's ready to go. sounds good. >> speaking of pregnancy, tori spelling, three kids already, young mom, her youngest 5 months old, and she's pregnant with her fourth. and she's got a new book out, and a new tv show. we're going to be talking to tori about all that coming up just ahead. >> all right. meantime i think we should get inside and get a check of the top stories. savannah is in for natalie. >> good morning. and in the news today, police are searching for more evidence today at the scene of one of california's worst mass killings. officials say a gunman opened fire with a pistol monday at oikos university. a small christian school in oakland. at least seven people were killed, and three others wounded. the suspect identified as a 43-year-old former student at the school was arrested at a supermarket several miles away. voters are hitting the polls

today for republican presidential primaries in wisconsin, maryland, and the district of columbia. meantime, president obama's campaign has started running a new ad in five swing states, attacking mitt romney by name for the first time. the obama administration say that more than 3100 immigrants who were in the country illegally were arrested during an unprecedented nationwide sweep last week. officials say at about one-third of those rounded up had multiple criminal convictions on their records. the ground beef processing company afa foods has filed for bankruptcy court protection, citing in part the uproar over so-called pink slime. meantime iowa's governor called for a federal investigation against what he called a smear campaign against the meat filler which is ammonia treated beef scrap. now here's brian williams with what's coming up tonight on "nbc nightly news." >> savannah, good morning. coming up tonight when we join you for "nightly news," proof that everything ends up on the

web sooner or later. an exclusive look at google's latest venture, opening access to the world's art treasures. masterpieces never before seen, all of them now on the web. we'll have that for you tonight. savannah, for now, back to you. >> all right, brian, thanks. now for a look at what's trending today, our quick roundup of what has you talking online. 30 rock star alec baldwin is engaged. his publicist confirmed on twitter that baldwin, who turns 54 today, has popped the question to his 28-year-old girlfriend hilaria thomas, a yoga instructor. he was previously married to actress kim basinger. transgender beauty queen has the internet buzzing after the miss universe organization reversed its decision to bar her from next month's miss universe canada pageant. she can participate, provided she meets the legal requirements in canada for being a woman. jenna had been kicked out of the competition two weeks ago. and the british boy band and twitter darlings, one direction, have turned down an invitation

from first lady michelle obama to attend the white house easter egg roll. according to the sun, mrs. obama and the boys hit it off at saturday's kid choice awards at nickelodeon and she gave them that coveted invite. but a source says while the band was honored, they had a previous commitment in australia. it is now 8:05. back to matt, ann and governor palin. something we don't say every day. >> that's right. thanks so much, savannah. >> although you don't watch our show every day you know what kind of a program this is. >> i know it's al's turn. so let's get a check of the weather with al. >> there you go. thank you very much, governor. in fact our pick city of the day, i like these hats, very nice, pick city of the day, anchorage, alaska. ktuu-tv, nbc 2. morning fog, afternoon sun, high of 36 degrees. anchorage last year for our lend a hand today. we're looking at h today. we are looking at heavy showers and thunderstorms moving from texas to oklahoma. back side of the system, we are looking at snow throughout the central rockies.

in fact, denver could pick up 6 to 12 inches of snow. a risk of strong storms from the ohio river valley into the mid mississippi river valley. more mountain snows and rain in the pacific northwest. sunshine through southern california. 83, gorgeous day today in los angeles. >> good morning. sun's up and a blue sky. here is the live view from the hd sky watcher camera overlooking washington on this tuesday morning. we had such a cold start. we were at or below freezing a couple hours ago. now it's just past 8:00. we are getting above freezing just about everywhere. mid and upper 30s to near 40. near the bay, mid and upper 40s there. today, 60s and near 70. clouds move in tonight. they will be in place tomorrow. mild, maybe >> and that's your latest weather. ann? >> all right, thanks a lot, al. still to come this morning, we've got tori spelling talking about expecting baby number four. but coming up next, we've got

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i think oprah gave a rather candid interview on another morning show yesterday morning and admitted that she's made many mistakes in creating and starting up her o.w.n. network. one of the things she said, had i known it was this difficult, i might have done something else. so we'll start with our guest, governor. are you surprised that after being the queen of morning television for 25 years, or afternoon television, that viewers have been so slow to embrace o.w.n.? >> you know, first, more power to oprah for getting out there, showing that guts, you know, showing the grit that it takes to succeed, and no doubt, as she has admitted, it's much tougher than she thought it would be. but she is representing what makes america great. you know, you have opportunity to succeed, and to fail, and to keep trying again. and that's what she's representing. so more power to her. >> by doing this kind of an interview, admitting mistakes, does she, in some ways, turn herself from the corporate dynasty to the underdog? and don't people love an underdog? >> that's what she did.

the one thing about oprah, she was so up here. and once you say, i screwed up, you become, you know, like okay, a little more likable. the reason she failed here is people don't watch a network. they watch shows. and it's one thing to send people to her book club, but people are not going to say, oh, this is oprah's network, i'm going to watch it, if they don't like what's on it. >> and she was not as involved in the beginning, admittedly. now she is involved. she wanted to telegraph to the world, i'm back, i'm back in charge of things you loved about me. come on to o.w.n., because now i'm involved. >> i think it's a reminder, too, of how hard business is. and entrepreneurs fail. so she fell on her face, she admitted it, she talked about it. there's a lesson in there for everybody. and she moves forward. >> and back to governor palin, one of the things that made her so appealing going on, was you came on kind of like, i'm not part of this, i'm not, necessarily know what i'm doing in every area and i think that made you more accessible. >> raise your hand if you think oprah gets it fixed? >> no. >> one show. >> raise your hand if you think when we're talking about this

next year, o.w.n. is no longer around. >> i think it's going to be around. she'll get some conservatives on the show. >> she'll get some liberals -- >> let's move on. a discussion surrounding jessica simpson, who is very pregnant right now, i think expecting her child at the end of next month. and pictures have surfaced online, in some magazines, she has gained a lot of weight. but she is pregnant. and some people are criticizing her, saying she has gotten too heavy. >> she's pretty fat. so -- >> that's from a doctor. >> mind you if i said that -- >> she's pretty fat. >> she says she's gained 40 pounds. >> no. she probably gained more than that. the norm is about 25 to 30 pounds to stay healthy. but, i don't like it when pregnant women get piled on by, you know, the lame streen media, the mini media or the next door neighbor. when you're pregnant, you should be able to enjoy that nine months and then deal with it afterwards. but, but, but, there is a health risk for gaining too much weight and then you have to lose the weight afterwards.

>> i'm going to get killed, obviously nobody should ever criticize a pregnant woman. however if you put yourself on the cover of magazines -- >> and beautiful spread. >> i think she did, also. but if you exploit it and you do it for commercial gain, you're setting yourself up to be criticized. >> governor, i don't know how much weight you gained during your pregnancies, but would you have -- how would you have felt had someone criticized you for gaining too much weight? >> i would have wanted to punch them in the neck. because "a" it's none of anybody else's business how much weight i gained. you know why this isn't even an issue, though, matt, is because that hollywood image is full of itty-bitty people. people unrealistically tiny, and i think that -- >> she put herself on the cover -- >> do you think that that actual picture of her naked looked just like that? that was airbrushed. it was airbrushed within an inch of her life. it is the point, donny. >> once you go on a cover it is everybody's business. >> isn't this about contrasts?

isn't this about the fact that this was the young lady who once posed in the daisy dukes with the cowboy boots and people are saying wait, that's the same person as this? >> it's a different chapter of her life. i bet you she was exercising five or six hours a day back in those daisy duke days. every girl gets pregnant and every girl gets fat. >> she's eating a lot of mac and cheese. >> let's move on. there is a new app for facebook. it is the opposite of friending someone. it's called enemies and it allows you to create a list of your enemies on the world's most popular social network. then you can find out if you have the same enemies in common with your friends, i guess, who's bothered by this? >> we clearly need to make sure everybody gets a job because these people have too much time on their hands. >> i think this is vile. it's destructive, awful. >> when you spend that much time, then -- >> star, it's beyond that. at the time we're talking about cyber bullying and the fact that we need to be kinder and gentler to each other, the fact that three college boys, would figure

out an app to put on facebook that frankly is destructive -- >> let me break in. governor you can weigh in on this, too. the developers of the app said it may sound sinister but its purpose is more socioological. we believe there's a certain almost of health in saying that you don't like something, that something is your enemy, because you can create conversations about that. you can bond with people over that. >> nope, it's all about tearing people down. hurting people. i don't see anything positive, anything good about this. >> i don't either. i think it's crap. >> maybe they'll learn from the politicians. >> honestly, i think this is where -- >> you can't just let that go. >> i'm sorry -- >> i think it's horrible what they're doing. but the world we see from politicians is pure negativity, and enemy-ism for lack of a better word. this is kind of throughout our culture. >> that's not just in the political arena. look at the bill mahers of the world. >> i'm not saying liberal or conservative, both sides. >> but in the entertainment business, too, there is a lot of -- there's power in people's

words. we know that. and when an app is being used to take somebody's words, as i'm saying, to demean somebody, to tear somebody down, that just adds more darkness to our world. -- >> interview and your point was anybody but obama. >> yeah. >> setting up the enemy versus this is what we need to do. i'm not criticizing you, it's all politicians today. so this is an extension of that. >> well, i don't think that saying anybody but obama is -- is necessarily such a negative thing, because that opens the door to talking about the positive solutions that i would like to talk more about. to talk more about when it comes to the other side of the aisle. >> i would like to see facebook not take this app. and cheryl sandberg who is an extraordinary leader and a mom i hope stops this. >> i'm going to jump ahead to the last topic for time's sake. there's a new movie being made about the life of the late founder of apple. steve jobs. and it was announced on april 1st that the man, the actor playing steve jobs is going to be ashton kutcher.

now some people say there's some physical similarities between the two at a young age. others think when you're dealing with a guy like steve jobs who was so influential you need an actor of more stature than a guy who is known for, dude -- >> gravitas. >> okay. there you go. >> gravitas. >> tom hanks, bosom buddies. anybody can step up to the plate. >> he's an actor you're saying. >> he's an actor. if he's got the skill and the talent, let him do his job. >> well, do any of you here have experience with people being paid a lot of money to pretend like they're you? >> what do you think of julianna -- >> i think -- >> you didn't like julianne moore? >> i didn't see the movie. >> you didn't see -- >> didn't -- no because i don't waste my time on -- no. so i'm not going to waste my time there. but i do have to admit that tina fey has been pretty clever.

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>> yeah. >> i mean, that's a lot of energy. >> well, yeah. i can dispel the old wive's tale that you can't get pregnant while you're breast-feeding now. so it happened. >> well, congratulations, it's pretty exciting. i know that in this book, "celebratory" you're really talking about your own experiences with your own family growing up. and now that you've got kids you want to share those experiences with your children. so let's talk about, then, what your experiences were. >> definitely. my mom was an avid party planner. we had the most amazing parties growing up. and for her, she would always teach me growing up that it was all in the details. and i learned so much. we used to craft all the time. so now being a mom of three, almost four, i love crafting with my kids. i love putting parties together for my friends and this is what i love to do. >> let's bring in another mom of three. sarah, why don't you join us while we stop looking -- stop ignoring this beautiful table and talk about what you may suggest here. >> okay, well, i always tell everyone you want, you know, it's overwhelming to plan a

party, whether you're doing a date night with your husband or a party for 100 people. i always like to start with a palette. here i've done lavender and gray, the color of my book. and i'm a big believer in minis. more than two bites you don't want to have it at a party. it interrupts conversation. it messes up your makeup. so i'm all for doing anything in a mini. here we have mini grilled cheese with tomato soup shots. mini cupcakes, of course. and i love a do it yourself bar. it saves money. it's great with budgets. and it's fun and interactive for your guests. i like to set up whatever your drink of preference is, if it's champagne, vodka, you can have soda bar if it's for kids. and i love to put things in car afters and containers. i'm a big believer in that so you don't just have bottles sitting out. it's a nice, personal touch. and then i love tags. i always make tags for everything. >> this is really fun. you put a lot of attention into this. sarah what do you think about this, i mean it's -- bottom line -- >> is the mousse --

>> i don't think of you as being a mini cupcake -- >> all right. so how do you serve that? >> oh, you serve this, put it on a tray. pigs in a blanket. easy. even buy them frozen if you don't have the time. it's all about the presentation. i'm a big believer in carnations. i'm bringing the carnation back. i think i got a bad rap in the '80s with prom. it's budget, budget. it's an easy, simple flower. put it together in a cluster, beautiful vase and no one knows the difference. >> how do you have time to do any of this, sore ri? >> i love it. i love doing it myself. if you're always out planning a party and buying stuff you don't get to spend time with your kids. my thing was if i do it at home with my kids then we all get to be together. this is my appetizer that's my go-to. i use it at everything. it's easy, simple, buy a brie wheel and put jam on it. you can put any kind. i did jalapeno jelly and raspberry jam. you buy pastry dough. you can get the frozen crescent

rolls and roll them out. you put it over, tuck it under. bake it for 30 minutes and it comes out like this. >> that is amazing. >> any leftover dough you can cut into little shapes with cookie cutters. put on top. and you have it. >> that actually is a go-to in my family. although we rarely do it with this. we put the jam on top and stick it in the oven if you don't have time. >> absolutely. this is easy. >> a big winner. >> so in terms of throwing parties, the idea of doing something in a mini way doesn't seem like your style. it's definitely not mine. >> no. this is good. this is very practical. it's absolutely something that we would do, too. and you know what? it's a lot of pot luck. we have a lot of people bring things with them. and it is even in an invitation, if you could kind of express that bring mini versions of everything. that would be helpful. >> the whole idea is just the mood you want to establish, right? and you go to all this trouble ahead of time. i wish -- you're inspiring me. you're holding this baby, too, while you're talking about it. but you're really inspiring me.

>> only four? >> only four. >> the more the merrier. >> how do you do it with five? i don't know if i can handle four. >> it's the most precious thing in the world, isn't it? congratulations. >> thank you. we're so excited. >> i'm so excited for you. a good example. good inspiration for others, tori. >> thank you. >> accomplishing so much and having fun. you're living life vibrantly. >> that's the whole fun of it. you just go with it. >> mom advice for tori here? >> oh, my gosh, are you getting any sleep? >> not much. >> yeah. well, that's, of course -- >> but loving every second of it. even in the middle of the night, you just feel -- you know, you love it. >> trust me, it goes by way too quickly. my oldest turns 23, our youngest turns 4. we've got three girls in between and it goes -- >> one more? >> no! the grandkids will come next, and that's heavenly. >> this is a conversation that's going to have to continue while we go off the air. thanks so much for joining us for this segment.

this is a news 4 news break. >> gromplt 8:26 now on this tuesday, april p. i'm aaron gilchrist. let's go to tom kierein for a look at the forecast. >> calendar says april 3 but it seems like a winter morning. that was a live view from the city camera. we have the bright sun up. temperatures down in the 30s. we were at or below freezing a couple hours ago. now above freezinging everywhere. later today, rapidly climbing. 60s by noontime. a lot of sun today and cloudiness around tomorrow. mild day. maybe a passing shower mainly in the afternoon. aaron? >> thank you, tom.

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♪ hold on for one more day >> 8:30 now on a tuesday morning. the 3rd day of april, 2012. wilson phillips in our studio right now, singing "hold on." that's the song that put them on the map back in 1990. now the trio is out with a brand-new album. which, by the way, is a tribute to their parents,ou remember, the mamas and the papas and the beach boys. we're going to hear from them in just a little while. >> i was liening to that cd last night, matt, and i was grinning here to here. i had to battle whether i wanted to turn on "nightly news" because it was going on at the same time. it is a really fun cd. >> you admit, brian williams was actually singing. >> out on the plaza on this tuesday morning, i'm matt lauer along with ann curry, al roker, savannah guthrie, and governor sarah palin, who's been joining us for this entire hour. and doing a really nice job. you're actually going to have another segment coming up in this half hour. >> talking about something very near and dear to my heart,

raising teenage daughters. in this kind of trying time, with society not making it real easy on parents. and trying to instill, you know, good work ethic, good body image, self-esteem in our daughters. go and you've got a 17-year-old daughter and an almost teenage daughter. she's 11? >> yes. >> so you know what you're talking about. >> i do. i do. well, you know, it's a crap shoot, though, matt, believe me. >> that's our motto. we have that hanging on the wall around here. >> it's a crap shoot. as the mother of a teenage daughter, i can agree. also model and actress christie brinkley. you'll be talking to her once again. this time about her return to broadway in "chicago." >> all right. and then also ahead we're going to reveal a list of the best and worst supermarkets in the country and also give you some tips how to avoid those fad supermarkets. >> if you're a chef you are stuck in the kitchen surrounded by food, how do you keep the weight off? well, we've got some of the greatest secrets that the best

chefs in america use to stay healthy and slim. >> all right. >> lots to get to. first you have a weather forecast. >> i do. in fact, worked weather forecas. >> it worked out well that way. let's see what we have. today we have a risk of strong storms texas to oklahoma. mid to upper mississippi river valley, rain in the pacific northwest. sunshine in the northeast. for tomorrow, we're looking at plenty of sunshine into the northeast and rain in the midatlantic states. a risk of strong storms in the lower mississippi river valley. rain and snow in the pacific northwest. warm texas into the southwest and the paul newman camps have changed their name. >> serious fun network. >> what a great man he was. that's what's going on around the country. here's what's happening in your neck of the woods. >> good morning. bright sun and a new dleu sky. live view from the sky watcher camera. a bit of a breeze at the camera

level 300 feet above northwest washington. the temperatures are up around 40 now after a very cold start when we were at or below freezing in much of the region. later today, near 70. a lot of clouds tomorrow. maybe a shower during the afternoon. sun back thursda >> and that's your latest weather. and don't forget, you can go to your weather channel or your weather.com and get the weather whenever you need it. matt? >> all right, al, thank you very much. christie brinkley made her broadway debut last year as roxy hart in the hit show "chicago." she went on to play that role in london's west end, as well, and starting this friday she's bringing roxy back to broadway. christie, welcome back. good to see you. >> thank you. >> so is it like falling off a bike for you, getting back into the shoes, the stiletto pumps of roxy hart? >> you know, it's all coming back to me. it's been seven months since i performed in london. and pretty much the big stuff

came back, but the little things, like, wait a minute, was my hand like this, or this -- >> right. >> you know, so it's funny what the little things that you forget. >> fair to say that the first time you played this role you had a lot to prove, i think a lot of people were wondering whether you could do this. >> oh, yes. >> and do you not feel that same pressure this time? >> well, actually, the -- when i was offered it the first time i couldn't believe they were offering it to me. i was like, there must be a mistake here. i had no training. i am not a dancer, or a singer, or any of that. but they are so professional at what they do. this is the longest-running american show on broadway. so they know their stuff. they know how to prepare you. and -- >> do you think when audiences -- do you think when audiences show up they're surprised at your ability to carry off this role? >> well, you know, i hope so. this time there's different

pressure. because this time they're saying, you know, back from her critically acclaimed --. you know the first time it was like, oh, they were expecting, you know me to be just horrible. this time they're expecting, you know, me to be like, you know, bebe neuwirth. >> you're supposed to be old hand at this. you just got the 2012 broadway beacon award. and from what i understand about that. that is basically, for the ability to bring a new type of audience in to theaters. >> yes. it's a wonderful program that is keeping broadway alive to younger generations. and so i was really thrilled to be awarded this. i mean, i'm such a broadway fan. i -- every time i would go to a broadway play, i would sit in the audience, and i'd get butterflies, and i'd be so excited for the actors, and i'd try to imagine what it's like back there. and i'd always sit in the audience going, i'd love to do

that some day. and when i'm in the wings right now, waiting to come out, there's this one scene where the razzle-dazzles are drifting down from the -- the, you know, lights, and the rafters above, and the dancers are out there doing those moves, and i'm standing there waiting to walk out there, and i just can hardly believe that i'm going to be amongst those amazing dancers, and it's a dream come true. >> and you're back this week. christie, nice to have you back. and good luck in "chicago" on broadway. >> thank you. the next three weeks. >> you got it. up next ann and governor palin tackle the tough issue of raising confident, teenage girls. but first, this is "today" on nbc. ♪

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the mother of three girls, certainly knows a lot about. also joining our discussion this morning dr. janet taylor a clinical psychiatrist at columbia university and the mother of four girls and haley kylpatrick the author of "the drama years." how parents can help them navigate through it. good morning to all of you. let me just tell you there have been a number of developments, for example in recent days a teacher in chicago suburb says that she is seeing a lack of confidence in teen girls that as a result she said that she's felt that there needed to be a summit to connect girls with their inner power, because there's too much focus on reality star-type celebrities. what are we not doing enough as mothers to help our daughters have more confidence? janet? >> well, you know, most mothers we want to have girls who are confident and successful. but what we need to understand is self-esteem is a rash year of success to expectation. when we hear them talking and making comments about reality stars we need to focus them back on their own strengths, their

own values and we have to look at ourselves as mothers in terms of what we teach them. so often it's from a deficit model. my thighs are too big. my hair is not straight enough. you know, i'm not brown enough, even. and so we have to refocus them back to what's good about them and teach them how to look in the mirror every day and say something positive about themselves. >> you know what would be nice, though, if the marketplace would demand, oh, that maybe some reality shows would start portraying some very healthy, independent, young women who are striving for strong work ethic, example, doing those things that are kind of the antithesis of so many of the things we're seeing portrayed in reality tv. >> we need better images. i imagine you would agree with that as well, haley. >> absolutely. i think that the most fascinating thing we learned at girl talk and through thousands of hours of interviews is girl's body image is so wrapped up in their self-esteem and unfortunately they don't understand the definition of self-esteem. they define it as to how others perceive them. so i agree with you dr. taylor, it's that we need to as adults

model great behavior in home, in the classrooms, and extracurricular activity. >> even if our daughters aren't talking, that's what happens when they're teenagers, sometimes you become monosyllabic, you have to almost insert yourself, don't you think? >> as mothers and fathers, too. because fathers play an important role about how our girls feel about themselves in terms of being interested in what they're doing. being interested in school. we need to take our power back and understand that our kids, our girls, learn the most from what they hear at home and what they see us doing. and we place, i think, too much emphasis on the power of reality tv and not enough on our own power at home. >> you know, when we talk about the father's role in all of this, and when you talk about the mother's relationship with their daughters, there's a fine line between wanting to be your child's friend, wanting to be the cool mom or dad, the fun one, and being their parent. and i think today, perhaps, you see this in your studies, too. too often a parent wanting to be their child's friend and kind of

skipping that parenting role. >> absolutely. listen, parents, it is not your job, it is not your job to prevent your daughters from feeling disappointment, or pain. you know, bullying aside, you don't want to inject yourself in to your daughter's drama for two reasons. one, you don't want her to think that you're going to jump in and save her from any bad thing that's going to happen in her life. and two, you don't want her to think that she can't handle it. that she can't stand on her own. i think if we can really visualivisual ize our daughters walking a tight rope your job is to be on the bottom cheering her on. if she falls, encourage her to get back up and walk again. you cannot walk the tight rope for your daughter. >> our job is to encourage and teach boundaries and draw the line. and let our kids know consequences to what happens when they either fail or succeed. >> to your point. >> which both has to happen, because ultimately we want to teach our girls to make good decisions, be able to say no, i don't want to do this, no you can't make me, and that comes from failing and also saying this is what you need to do the next time. >> apparently we're already out

of time and frankly we have so much more to talk about here. >> and kids inherently want those boundaries. >> they do. >> not only do they need them i think that they want them. >> that comes from family time. that comes from being able to listen to them and also using positive encouragement. >> i have to stop this. thank you so much janet taylor and haley kylpatrick and you did a great job, sarah palin joining us here this morning on a conversation you all care so much about. this morning, the country's best and worst grocery stores. and also we've got a live performance from wilson phillips. mm, these artisan bagels are so tasty. hey, what do you think "artisan" means? it's latin. for what? really, really good bagels. dunkin's new artisan bagels are as authentic as it gets. soft, chewy, and delicious. grab one today.

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rotation. and when he takes the mound on saturday, moyer can become the oldest pitcher in major league history to post a victory. jamie moyer, good morning. good to see you. >> good morning, matt. how are you today? >> i'm fine. you are only five years younger than me. i get tired finding my seat at a major league ball park. are you some kind of freak of nature? how are you going to do this? >> oh, i don't know. i'm feeling pretty good. it's been a lot of hard work and dedication, but it takes opportunity and the rockies have been very gracious and allowing me to have that opportunity this year. >> i want to mention you missed basically all of last season. you had reconstructive elbow surgery. were there thoughts, jamie of saying, let's call it a career? it's not worth the work it's going to take to get back? >> not really. i really felt that i needed to let the doc do his work, and let myself try a little rehab and see where it went from there. and everything went well. so here i am. >> 49 years old. you're in the dugout, and you're in the clubhouse with players who are half your age, sometimes

less than half your age. how do you fit in? >> i don't want to say it's difficult. but it's different. i enjoy it, though, because it allows me to feel a lot younger. and it's exciting for me. this is what i've done my whole life. and if i can share some of the experiences i've had in my life with some of these younger guys, it was given to me as a young player and i think it's important to give back to the game. >> you listen to the same music they listen to? >> oh, no. >> that's a little different. i want to mention the philanthropic side of your career. you have the moyer foundation. you raised i think more than $20 million for kids in crisis. is that one of the reasons you keep playing, so you can keep bringing attention to that? >> well, it's not really the reason i play, but we've realized that we are in a stage as an athlete, and, you know, to bring that to the people's attention, and you know, we have grief camps and bereavement

camps for children. we started those in 2002. we've been able to touch over 8,000 children with 40 camps throughout the country. we feel very fortunate to be on this stage to be able to discuss this and create the awareness for the camps. >> you've got eight kids, the youngest five and the oldest has been drafted by a major league team. so when you take the mound on saturday against the houston astros, can the old man still bring it? >> well, it's not -- not a lot of fire, but i can still get it up there, and hopefully get a lot of people out. >> jamie moyer, i hope you do it. and whenever you do it, i think it will be a wonderful accomplishment, and good luck to you. thanks for joining us, jamie. >> all right. thanks for having me on, matt. >> all right. coming up next, a live performance from wilson phillips. but first, this is "today" on nbc. [ male announcer ] does your cable company keep charging you more...

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>> it was crazy. we had no idea that this was going to happen. it just sort of fell out of the sky. and it has been such a blessing for us because it sort of put us back on the map and gave us the shot in the arm we needed. >> this cd is a total blessing. as i said to carnie i couldn't stop listening to it. so much fun. how did you pick the songs from your own parents' legacies? >> we picked our favorite songs and we had to give, you know, the people what they wanted, a hit. but we also picked a few obscure songs that we absolutely hold dear to our hearts. >> "good vibrations" for example. >> yes. and also you've got this reality show. april 8th or something? >> on the tv guide network. >> wilson phillips, still holding on. >> wonder where you got that title? >> they're 105 years old. follows our lives and our nine children and our working -- we're working mothers. >> let's let you work now, and the song that the dvd is called -- the dd is called "dedicated." ladies and gentlemen, wilson phillips.

♪ all the leaves are brown all the leaves are brown ♪ ♪ and the sky is gray and the sky is gray ♪ ♪ i've been for a walk on a winter's day ♪ ♪ if i wasn't that way ♪ california dreamin' california dreamin' ♪ ♪ on such a winter's day i passed along the way well i got down on my knees ♪ ♪ got down on my knees

♪ and i pretend to pray i pretend to pray ♪ ♪ you know the preacher likes it cold preacher likes it cold ♪ ♪ he knows i'm going to stray knows i'm going to stray noechlt california dreamin' california dreamin' ♪ ♪ on such a winter's day ♪ you know i got down on my knees ♪ ♪ oh, dreamin' dreamin' ♪ ♪ all the leaves are brown

and the sky is gray ♪ ♪ i've been for a walk i've been for a walk ♪ ♪ on a winter's day on a winter's day ♪ ♪ and if i didn't tell her i could leave today ♪ ♪ i could leave today ♪ california dreamin' california dreamin' on such a winter's day ♪ ♪ california dreamin' on such a winter's day ♪ ♪ california dreamin' on such a winter's day ♪ >> so great. right? you guys, governor palin was doing this while you guys were singing. just a little bit of dancing. that was so fun. >> we were pretending like we sound just like you. >> can i admit something? my entire life i thought it was got down on my knees and i began

to pray. it's pretend to pray? >> pretend. >> i had no idea until i heard you just say that. that is weird. >> either way. >> wilson phillips, great job. >> thank you. >> we'll be back after this. >> announcer: this is a news 4 news break. >> good morning. it's 8:56 on this tuesday april 3. still a bit chilly outside this morning. tom kierein has the forecast. >> we were below freezing this morning. now as we approach mid-morning, lots of sun. sun climbing higher. live view from the sky watcher camera and temperatures well above freezing. into the 40s and now hitting the

50s in locations. reagan national, 53. it's continuing to climb quickly. in fact, we'll be in the 60s by noontime. maybe near 70 by mid afternoon. a tremendous jump from this morning. lots of sun and clouds around tomorrow. might have a passing shower mainly in the afternoon. another mild day. cooler weather for friday, saturday and sunday. aaron? >> thank you, tom.

good morning. traveling southbound on 295 at the 11 street bridge you have a disabled car. please use caution. to 210 northbound, this is just prior to 228 barry road. you will see a three-vehicle crash there slowing things down for you and the inner loop still a mess because of the jackknifed tractor-trailer. this is as you make it toward saint boniface road. two left lanes are blocked and you're jammed. aaron? >> an update on

we're back now with more of "today" on a tuesday morning. it's the 3rd day of april, 2012. got a massive spring break crowd out on the plaza this morning, enjoying a beautiful day here in the northeast. and enjoying the last couple of minutes of our guest co-host for today, governor sarah palin. so, how have you enjoyed being part of the mainstream media for the last hour? >> oh, organized chaos. but i've always said that if everything is under control, you're going tao slow, as mario andretti says, too. it's been a great morning. >> you know, it's sarah, or governor palin told me a quick story earlier in the day. she was going to wear a different outfit today. >> yeah, i wasn't going to go

all johnny cash on you today. but what i showed up to wear, matt, happens to be the same jacket, the pink jacket from the consignment shop that i had worn in an interview with you almost four years ago. >> and you said this is not going to work. >> i watched a clip last night, i said todd, what the heck am i going to wear? >> can't do that. all you have? anyway you look great. you did a great job and i hope you've had a nice time. >> thank you. you guys are awesome. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> if you'd like to hang around we're cooking at the end of the hour. >> all right. >> meanwhile, hang out for one second, i'm matt lauer along with ann curry, al roker, tamron hall and governor palin. >> we're going to comparison shop when it comes to supermarkets. we're often looking at what's in the supermarket. what about whether your supermarket is the best one in your area. we're going to take a look at some of the tricks supermarkets use to get you to spend more money and how you can avoid being fooled. >> and in our diet sos joy bauer

will be here. let's say you decided to stop smoking, now you've gained some weight. we'll try to help you with that. plus the truth about the calorie counters on the machine at your local gym. >> all righty. and jill martin is back. with her very popular segment. we're going to take a look at some things that seem relaxing and summer spring styles for adults and for kids, since you're a bargain shopper, governor palin, july love jill's steals & deals. >> governor, thanks again. let's go inside, savannah guthrie is in for natalie at the news desk. >> good morning, everybody. in the news today, a violent rampage in oakland, california, has become the deadliest u.s. school shooting in five years. nbc's kristen dahlgren is in oakland this morning with more. kristen, good morning. >> good morning, savannah. this is the hospital where the three victims who survived were brought to the hospital, won't say what their conditions are but we're learning more about the seven who were killed. police say they were six women and one man. their ages between 21 and 40.

we're also learning more about those frontic moments. >> be advised we have live fire. >> reporter: outside the school, sheer panic as students ran for their lives and police search for a gunman. >> we're getting information now that the suspect is still in there reloading. okay? >> reporter: as s.w.a.t. teams stormed the school, police tried to evacuate students. some still hiding in locked classrooms, while victims lay nearby. >> we've got at least five down inside the building. >> reporter: in the end, seven were dead, another three wounded. witnesses described the gunman as a former nursing student at the small christian school. this man's sister was in the classroom when the shooting began. >> he had been dropped out for about three months and he walked into the class today, and he grabbed the lady that does filing and brought her in and said everybody get against the board, and nobody did, he started shooting at everybody. >> reporter: police identified the suspect as one goh who they arrested without incident at this nearby superintendent. >> as far as we know he was the only person that was involved in this incident.

>> reporter: the identities of the victims have not been released but many are believed to be in the nursing program at the small private school. >> it's the kind of pain and situation that we won't understand totally, immediately, but that will leave the community asking questions for a long time. >> now police just updated us. they say they still don't know the exact motive, they believe, though, the suspect went into the school looking for an administrator. she wasn't there, and they say that's when he went into the classroom, savannah, and started shooting. >> kristen dahlgren in oakland this morning. thank you. a big day on the campaign trail with republican primaries in wisconsin, maryland, and the district of columbia today. this as president obama makes clear who he thinks his likely opponent will be this november. gop front-runner mitt romney. in a new tv ad for his re-election campaign, the president criticizes romney by name for the first time, calling him a backer of tax cuts for big

oil. romney is solidifying his lead over rival rick sant numb. romney has reached 50% of the delegates needed to win his party's nomination. the kentucky wildcats have clawed their way to the top of the ncaa championship in new orleans, beating the kansas jayhawks 67-59. and clinching the first title since 1998. but the celebrations in lexington, kentucky, quickly got out of hand. one man was wounded by gunfire and dozens were arrested. police say thousands took to the streets. several fires were set. and a car crashed into an outdoor bash. the u.s. student loan debt is surging above $1 trillion, overtaking credit card and car loan dealt, according to the associated press. the mountain of debt, and selective defaults, potentially jeopardize the economic recovery. much of the debt is also government backed, adding to the burden already weighing on taxpayers. and with the job market still getting back on its feet, many americans have returned to the classroom, driving themselves even further into debt.

president obama predicted monday that the supreme court will uphold his health care reform law when that ruling is announced in june. the president seemed to challenge the justices directly when he warned that overturning the law would hurt millions of americans and amount to an overreach by the court. and you will not need an invitation to visit the white house online anyway. the google art project is developing a virtual tour of 1600 pennsylvania avenue, with a introduction by first lady michelle obama. online visitors can get a 360 degree view of the public rooms. the project was driven by president obama and the first lady to make the people's house more accessible to all. it is now 9:06. back to al with a check of the weather. >> that's pretty cool. >> that's awesome. >> speaking of cool, you're a little chilly. >> it is a little chilly. >> why don't you button that up. >> all right. i'll button up. >> all right. let's check it out, see what n up. got for you for today. all right. >> let's see what we've got for you today. we are looking at strong storms from austin to tulsa.

secondary area that will develop later today from st. louis, cincinnati and louisville. we could be looking at strong thunderstorms, damaging winds and heavy rain from new orleans back to great bend. anywhere from one to four inches of rain, especially between new orleans and dallas. then the back side of the system, we've got snow to talk about from denver to colorado springs. anywhere from six inches to a foot of snow. that's what's going on around the country. here's what's happening in your neck of the woods. >> good morning. bright sun after a cold start. now we are warming up to the 50s. as we get toward noon we should be making it all the way into the 60s, maybe near 70 by mid afternoon with sun. then a lot of clouds around tomorrow into the low to mid 70s and maybe a passing shower in the afternoon. small chance. then cooler weather returns for thursday, friday, saturday and sunday. first part of next week, highs in the 60s each >> and that's y

weather. >> and the latest american idol contestant. it is amazing. i can't believe you were booted off the show. i think j. lo is disappointed who loved you tremendously and me and all your fans. >> j. lo and my wife -- >> you call j. lo your wife? >> what happened? >> she's just playing hard to get. i'm just kidding. >> some of the judges -- you got this playful side and not everybody got that. >> oh, you know, i'm from new york. so nobody can get new york jokes like that. you know, you might get it right away because you're from new york. some of the people from l.a., you know, i can't please everyone. >> and you were amazing on the show. what do you have next coming up? i think you have a variety show appeal that could just skyrocket. my humble opinion. >> i'm going to have dinner with her, of course. for sure. i'm kidding. >> go ahead.

>> we're joking. >> i'm just going to -- i'm trying to make something out of it definitely. anything like that. anything. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> all right, best of luck. >> best of luck to you. >> now let's head back inside. >> thanks, al. this morning on "today's consumer," the best and worst supermarkets from the variety of foods to the prices and checkout lines consumer reports has figured out what makes you happy or not so happy with your grocery shopping experience. todd marks is the magazine's senior project editor. todd, good morning. >> good morning, savannah. >> i guess people feel pretty strongly about their grocery stores. >> love it or hate it, people are passionate about grocery shopping. it's something we do more often than any other type of shopping. >> we spend so much time there. what were the top complaints people made? >> one of the interesting things in the story that we found out is that 43% of people have actually fired a supermarket. and they really fire them for a couple of key reasons.

the biggest reason was high prices. i mean look at the economy today. people are looking for low prices. they want to get a better deal. 43%, you know, large section, fired their store for that. but there were other things. product selection. long lines. 25% of people did that. and rudeness. that was another big point. 17%. so there are a lot of factors that come into play here. >> people want to shop with a smile. okay i know there are some tricks that grocery stores use to get us to buy more. tell me about shopping clockwise. >> you know it's an interesting phenomena. the supermarket is a great way to study human behavior. most stores have an entrance that makes the traffic pattern flow in a clockwise manner. and if you shop counterclockwise -- i'm sorry, if you shop clockwise rather than counterclockwise, you tend to buy less. because it goes against the grain. people are creatures of habit. and bee we do things that are natural. we kind of linger and spend time eyeing the merchandise, but when

you go against the grain, people are a little more uncomfortable and studies have shown that people spend more when they shop clockwise. >> and you also say beware the bump out. >> anything that stops traffic will get you to take notice and buy it. a bump out is nothing more than a display that just happens to be in the aisle or any half display. people think items are on sale, you're more apt to buy, even if it's not on sale. >> you've got some tips. the first one is to be a savvy shopper. is this cutting coupons? >> there's a trilogy of saving money in the grocery store today. it comes down to clipping coupons, 2.3 billion were redeemed last year with an average face value of $1.17. use your store's bonus card or loyalty card. stores are increasingly offering their best bargains to their best customers and you can get all kinds of deals that you wouldn't be entitled to. and there are other parts to the equation, too. read flyers. flyers are where stores advertise their loss leaders. items sold at or below cost to get you there.

but you've got to be aware that not everything in a supermarket flyer is on sale. >> you call unit prices the holy grail of grocery shopping. what do you mean? >> those little bar coded labels on the shelf, beneath each product. you typically find. they list the price per ounce, per quart, per pound, for 100 sheets. it's the way of comparing products within brands. a large size to a small size. different brands. whether a product is in a can or in a box. so it really does a district comparison. but you've got to be careful about unit pricing. because we did a study and sent shoppers nationwide to look at unit pricing consistency. there's no nutrition facts labels that are unified like you see on products that tell the calories, fat and sodium. sometimes they list a bag of flour, for example, by the ounce. price per ounce. others by the pound. so you've got to bring your calculator. >> and read the fine print. >> exactly. >> we've got 30 seconds or less. two tips, store brands? >> store brands, the single biggest area of the shopping environment today, you can save

25% to 35% and store brands have grown in popularity 40% over the past ten years. >> and use the basket not the cart. what if you need a lot of stuff? >> maybe make a couple of trips. studies have shown the bigger the basket the more you're apt to spend. use the hand baskebasket. >> todd marks, always good to see you. thanks. how to keep off the pounds if you kick the smoking habit and choosing the right yogurt if you're a diabetic. and then later, jill martin is here with some fun finds, including an iphone case with a built-in bottle opener. who doesn't need that. and i have no idea what that is. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and who doesn't want 50% more cash? ugh, the baby. huh! and then the baby bear said, "i want 50% more cash in my bed!" phhht! 50% more cash is good ri... what's that. ♪ you can spell.

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>> good morning, al. >> may i just say, we're just all grooving on your outfit today. >> the shoes! >> the shoes match the blouse, matches the skirt. go for you, al. >> thank you so much. let's see if suzy in oregon appreciates the outfit. she's joining us live. what do you think of joy's outfit, suze? >> i think it looks fabulous. i'm just worried about the heels on those. is that good for your feet? >> these are sitting shoes. as a matter of fact i walked up here barefoot and i just put them on. i can't stand in them but they look fabulous. >> we love you suzy. what's your question? >> all right my question to joy is, i stopped drinking soda in your neck of the woods, i guess we'd call it pop here on the west coast, a couple years ago. but i like the carbonation. so i drink carbonated water. but a friend of mine said, well you don't want to do that because it's like you don't get hydration from drinking carbonated water. i was just curious if that's

true or not. >> no, not true. in fact whether it's sparkling or flat water they're both healthy choices. they're incredibly hydrating and i think the addition of sort of the poppy fizz makes flat water a little bit more interesting, and helps people to give up the soda, and have something else to drink. when you get -- in order to get the bubbles you have to add carbon dioxide so it makes the poppy water a little bit more acidic. but not enough to increase the risk of tooth decay and all these rumors circulating around that bubbles cause cellulite. not true. the only downside is if you have irritable bowel syndrome, ibf, or reflux, sometimes carbonated beverages can worsen your symptoms. but if you don't fall into that category, two thumbs up, they're terrific. >> thanks so much, suzy. >> thanks for the shoe compliment. >> let's go to the phone now. laurie in pensboro, new jersey. good morning, lori.

>> good morning. >> what's your question? >> my question is i have smoked for 30 years and i quit on veterans day. >> good for you. >> and now that i've gained 15 pounds, and it doesn't want to go away. >> okay. what can she do? >> okay, so first, kudos that you quit smoking. you literally added years to your life. and although the weight gain is annoying it's reversible, it's manageable, and we can knock it off. the nicotine in cigarettes will slightly raise your metabolism and suppress your appetite. that's what we need to defy right now. in terms of revving your metabolism again i want you to exercise every single day for 30 minutes and that's going to do the trick. in order to suppress your appetite and stop you from nibbling on all the extracurricular foods i want you for the next few weeks to chomp on sugarless gum and try toting along a slimming hot beverage, maybe a skim latte or some interesting blend of herbal tee. and pick up a stress ball and pop it in your purse.

every time you typically grab for a snack or a cigarette i want you to just pump it for a couple of minutes. i think between the exercise and the gum and the hot beverage and the stress ball you're going to knock off the weight, and you're going to be off of cigarettes. so it's going to be a win-win. >> way to go, laurie. thanks so much. we've got another viewer e-mail, lorraine in tulsa, oklahoma, she's writing, should a diabetic eat yogurt since it has so much sugar in it? >> yes. yogurt can be a great source for a diabetic because the carbs automatically compact with protein which helps to blunt the rise in blood sugar. but you have to be very strategic about the brands that you're buying. you have two options. the first is you can buy a brand that says light on the label. and that's going to indicate that it has either artificial sweetener or stevia, which doesn't add carbs and is not going to impact your sugar. that's the first option. the second option i much prefer because i like everybody to minimize their intake of all the artificial and other sugar substitutes, including stevia, you're going to pick up a plain,

nonfat yogurt and add your own fresh or frozen fruit. you'll get a little bit of carb but it's going to be natural from the fruit, and antioxidants and fiber. and in a perfect world, make that nonfat plain yogurt a greek yogurt because then you get twice the protein and we've just said that protein helps to steady your blood sugars. >> joy bauer, good to see you. >> thanks, al. >> can't wait to see what you're wearing next week. still to come, everything you need for some good times this spring, even an iphone case with a built-in bottle opener. you use that too much you can't dial the phone. jill martin with some great fun finds. i'm here with carol, flo, and karen for a girls night out talking about activia. i tried it and my body felt so right, for a change. and then there's you... why should i try it? my system gets out of sorts but that comes with age, right? wouldn't you like to feel great? just because we're in that over 50... what does that mean? are we done?

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good evening, everybody. nice to have you with us. >> that is ryan seacrest. the "american idol" host, radio host, tv producer. he does it all. and he will be here tomorrow on "today" to make a big announcement. we look forward to that. and then the woman who came to be known as the octomom, nadya suleman is going to be here as well. the mother of 14 children in all. she'll tell us how she's dealing with everything when she's here live thursday on "today." >> meanwhile coming up in this half hour, jill martin is all about the little things to make spring brighter. from a mobile arcade. i love this. to fun family footwear. an mp3 door bell that stores up

to 10,000 songs. so see how much fun she's having. that's how much fun you can expect to have in your own life. >> we didn't know we needed it. >> but we do need it. >> we don't need it. we want it. and in "today's kitchen," the slimming secrets of great chefs. they're going to tell us how they spend all day creating those luscious meals, and yet stay fit and healthy. show us how to make healthy -- >> do mean a psychedelic measure? >> yes. >> or do we? i guess i'll do a check of the weather now. >> shall we do the weather? >> yes, i will. for todayes, i will. for today a risk of strong storms from texas to the plains. also the mid mississippi river valley. mountain snows in the pacific northwest. snow in the central rockies including denver. plenty of sunshine. a little on the cool side.

it will continue tomorrow. look for strong storms in the lower mississippi river valley. mountain snows in the pacific northwest. sunny and warm texas into the southwest. that's what's going on around the country. here's what's happening in your neck of the woods. >> here we have sunshine and temperatures now climbing into the 50s after the cold start later today into the 60s near 70. lots of sun but clouding up tonight and tomorrow. mild an wednesday with a passing shower. thursday, friday and into the weekend each day should be dry with sunshine and cooler with highs in the low 60s thursday, friday, mid 60s on saturday and chilly in the mornings. 40s and upper 30s. for easter sunday, clouds around and mid 60s. your latest weather. >> al, thank you. now let's say hello to megan stone, the latest contestant to have the scales tip against her on nbc's hit show "the biggest loser." good morning. it's good to see you. >> good morning. i'm so glad to be here. >> you look fabulous. i know you started at 259 pounds. how much did you lose on the ranch and how much overall?

>> on the ranch i lost, i think right around 69. i don't know. but i've lost 75 total now. >> wow. >> terrific. >> so what did you learn from your time on the ranch? >> i've learned so many valuable lessons. and i've come home with so many tools that not only help me, but i can help my family. i can help my friends. i can help my coworkers. i mean, i've learned so many life lessons. it's just amazing. >> you mention in your preinterview that you love living life. you wanted to be active. and you've got that part of your life, but as i understand it you also have a hubby soon to be. >> yes. >> so you picked up some weight. >> a good kind of weight. >> that's the fella? >> oh, yes. >> oh. >> nice. >> and oh, my gosh. he and i at the gym together, he's so much -- he's a foot and an inch taller than me so trying to keep up with him and running with him, i -- >> it makes you work out better

with a partner. for a lot of women when their husband or significant other get involved it helps. >> right. absolutely. and i feel like going into this new chapter of our lives together, both of us being healthy. both of us having like you and i did, i think it's really good. >> well you have so much to be proud of. megan stone, thank you for being here. >> nice to meet you guys. >> reminder to everyone, "the biggest loser" airs tonight 8:007:00 central on nbc. >> up next, we'll celebrate spring with some of jill's fun finds right after this. ♪ i woke up to a feeling ♪ every little thing has meaning ♪ ♪ i woke up to a light bulb on ♪ every little thing is possible now ♪ [ female announcer ] we've added a touch of philadelphia cream cheese to our kraft natural cheese to make it creamier. so whatever you make isn't just good, it's amazing. ♪ life is amazing with the love that i've found ♪ [ female announcer ] and to make a creamier sandwich,

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and summer from a doll that plays your favorite tune to a mobile arcade. jill martin has everything you need for good times in the months ahead. good morning. >> good morning. >> you've got a ton of things. i'm going to let you just launch in here. i love where we're starting. >> okay. color blocking is in. >> yes. >> for everybody. and look at this adorable tutu. this is the latest, so i just wanted to show you everything. to the little flats. starting at $10. spacecadets.com. so for your kids to get in on the action. >> adorable. >> if you have a little racier or edgier child, these are all new from shopadidas.com. they're more on the expensive side. look how great these are by jeremy scott designing for your groovier kid. >> this is one of my favorite things i think i've ever seen. >> you want these for you. >> do they come in my size? >> okay now if you are looking for a pair of shoes, you're very into shoes, these are all under $30 from target. >> i like them because they're

wedges and chunkier heels which in the summer i think these are critical. >> and obviously anything with neon or just to spice up an outfit without breaking the bank. >> very nice. and moving on. >> okay. throwing a party. nothing like throwing a party in style and adding your twists a little bit. so this is really fun things in boxes. and just a chalkboard to show where everybody is sitting. just really fun. this is bhlpn.com. inexpensive way to spruce up your party. >> this is the time of the year, even if you have a little teeny bistro table, you want to get everyone involved. the jelly beans? >> that's what i love. so i would pick that. >> and put it in your bag. >> i like that. >> now this is the thing you're most excited about. >> someone rings your doorbell. are you tired of the usual ding dong? this you can load up to 10,000 songs, and actually cue it up to the chord. >> i love that. and that will be your door bell when people come over. >> this one is odd i have to admit. >> this is random but if you love iphones and love to drink.

it is a case -- >> who doesn't. >> with an opener. >> so you never need to chench around for a bottle opener. >> right. opener case, $39.99. >> like that. >> okay. >> everyone's like -- >> this is a campfire ipad. it's like a bean bag. and this you could keep on your lap or if you're going camping just so it's at the right angle. it's comfortable. >> that is an awesome idea. i love that. and then sometimes the ipad gets a little warm and this keeps the protection. >> and it allows the camera to be seen. >> perfect. >> this is genius. >> major. >> genius. >> water, if you could put it in the machine, the washing machine, not washing machine. >> you can get it wet >> $29.99, sky mall. they have mouses, everything. >> this is guaranteed. >> totally. they have seals on it. if you have kids this is your wireless. >> that's fantastic. >> the arcade, it has all your favorite games. you hook up your ipad. you get the app, and --

interactive. >> you get the idea. >> different games. >> all right. >> discoverybaygames.com. this is great. this is all the disney. ekids.com. water resistant. all the different shows. ice cubes hot or cold. you put it in the microwave or the freezer or two hours and it will keep your coffee hot or your wine or alcohol cold. >> really? >> isn't that great? and it's giftable because it comes in that little pack. >> this one also got a lot of buzz. >> this got a lose of buzz. quirky.com. these next two things. a cutting board and you pull out the drawer and you can put in your vegetables or if you're cutting up and you want to put the extra in. >> practical and compact. love that. >> and then this is fabulous. >> what is that? >> this so you have your grill in the back and then you know how you can't carry everything. >> i love it. >> it's all in one. >> i love it. >> and having been a waitress for eleven days i think something like this -- >> eleven days? >> hardest job of my life.

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may check out facebook to study up on our former colleagues. harvard does it a little differently. you've got what's known as the red book. >> this is the actual red book. my book is called "the red book" and it's a fictional version. this red book is essays, three to five paragraph essays that alumni write about their lives. and some of them gloss over things. some of them are brutally honest. you read, you know, my mother died, my child is sick, it's -- it's such a fascinating document that my husband, who didn't go to the same college as i did, grabbed it from me before i could even get to it, and he will read it cover to cover all night long. >> i guess there is a question about whether this is a book of fiction or nonfiction. you use this as the jumping-off point for your novel. four people facing their college reunion and it starts with what they wrote, or what their lives were actually, it's a little different. >> that's what's kind of interesting. is i actually thought about writing nonfiction first. but then i realized, people gloss over their lives. the real inner turmoil that we

all have, and doubt and failures. that stuff doesn't get really written in there. so what i wanted to do was play with the idea of the actual entry that we write about our lives, and then the lives themselves. and so there's a kind of interplay between the fiction and the nonfiction. in fact, in this case, fiction happens to be truer than the nonfiction. >> i guess you have some personal experience. you wrote your entry for the red book and then your life just happened to change between the time you wrote it and when you actually went to the reunion. >> absolutely. so i went to my reunion in 2008, and everything was sort of hunky dori, my life was going along fine, as lives tend to do, and then right around the time that the recession hit my husband lost his job, my dad was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, and we had to move. and if you talk to any psychologist about what are the three biggest stressors in life, you know, death of a parent, a job loss, a move, we had it all at the same time. and i thought, oh, my goodness, my life doesn't resemble a thing

about what i'd written before. >> and speaking of your fictional character, lest we think because they went to harvard they've got it all made, your characters have faced some challenges themselves. >> harvard is just a setting. and, in fact, my characters are all living extremely ordinary lives. because, you know, it doesn't matter if you went to an ivy league college or state college, we all live our lives after college -- >> and relationship traumas. >> and have relationship traumas and life just kicks you down every once in awhile. and that's what this book is about. it's about not the pretty picture that weigh paint of our lives. not the facebook profile. but the real stuff. >> and i understand you have your 25th reunion coming up? >> shhh. >> well, maybe -- >> maybe it will be fodder for your next novel. >> hopefully. >> deborah, thank you for stopping by and telling us about the book. and it is called "the red book." coming up next, the secret to staying slim from some of the country's hottest chefs. first this is "today" on nbc.

"today's" tips to a healthy you is brought to you by walgreens. >> this morning on small steps to a healthier you, learning from the pros. chefs work around great food all day every day. how do they keep their hands out of the cookie dough? they're sharing secrets in a new book "smart chefs stay slim." journalist allison adono is the author, and allison one of the featured chefs in the book. >> how you doing? >> i'm doing great. >> allison, what a great idea. i've always wondered about this. >> thank you. >> because how do these chefs -- there are some bigger chefs but there are a lot of chefs, michelle bernstein is a great example, have to stay healthy and fit. how did you get this idea? >> the idea came to me, i work at "people" magazine where i'm a senior editor and i was covering

celebrity chefs at the time and hanging around a lot of chefs and eating their food. and one of the things i noticed was just as you said, they're not all really big and i wanted to know, how do they do that? >> so michelle, you're going to show us a great sauce that you can use three ways. >> mm-hmm. >> and eat pretty healthy. >> and even more ways. it's really healthy. it's so good for you. has all the good fats. this is lamesco and it comes from catalonia, spain. in the blender i've got italian parsley. i've grilled, and you can roast in a hot oven or broiler, some peppers. you can use regular roast peppers, and a roast jalapeno for a little built of spice. then i have here, we call it a confit but you can also just call it a regular cook of shallots and garlic in a lot of olive oil. what i do is i strain out the garlic and the shallot and i use this in here. this oil is beautiful. it's good olive oil that has really delicious flavor, and

later on you can use that oil in all kinds of good stuff. >> scented oil then. >> it's a scented oil. marcona almonds. they're so good for you. if you have hazel nuts or pine nuts around that's traditionally in this sauce. some dry bread. >> for a little body. >> just a little bit for body. and then sherry vinegar. and then i'm going to add just a tiny bit of water for that blender to run. and if we're in a hurry i can keep going fast. it's made already. and you want this to be really kind of rustic. not so smooth. >> so you want it kind of chunky. >> you want it really chunky. and it ends up like this. >> like peanut butter. >> or a good hummus. look how delicious this is and it's kind of spicy. it's just wonderful. >> oh, that's terrific. >> isn't it yummy? so it goes with everything. so what i have here, because it's spring, i really wanted to bring to you something that's just, first out of spring. we've got grilled asparagus. all you have to do is snap off the bottoms, throw them on the grill, olive oil, salt and

pepper, and these are wonderful right now. >> i love these. >> rance is like a spring onion. in catalonia, their special is like a spring onion vegetable that comes out they grill them with a lot of fire, wrap them up and peel them off and dip them. it's anything you want it to be. and we have some beautiful hamachi or snapper, yellow tail, actually, and you can use whatever fish happens to be in your region. this is literally grilled -- about a medium. you know, not too much. >> i love the region you've been talking about. can we see that one more time? >> catalonia. >> oh, i love that. >> you only like it because of the way i say it. >> exactly. >> hi, ladies. >> hi. >> this looks so healthy. >> it is. but it's tasty. >> sure. >> and so any kind of a fresh fish, and you serve it with some of the ramesco on the side.

and this is just wonderful, fresh food with a little hint of flavor on the side. a lot of health. >> what other tips do you have in there? >> there are about 40 chefs in the book. >> all thin. >> but you know what, there are chefs in the book who were big and lost the weight. >> thanks so much. coming up, kathie lee and billy ray cyrus.

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couple times. >> yes, i have. >> well now you're in for it. hoda is a much nicer human being. you don't get nervous now. right? it is no big deal. >> no. it's fun. >> i think the difference is when you're a real performer and you've been performing -- has is been 20 years since "achy breaky heart"? >> it came out in 1992. >> did you have any idea it would just rocket you to stardom the way it did, but also this crazy world you entered into? >> i felt like there was some really good songs on there and it was a time period in my life when i was living the music. very similar to what i'm going through now with this new album, "hillbilly heart." and the songs that i've written for this album, it is an interesting time period to parallel that 20-year anniversary and the music is alive and real as it was then. >> you've got a lot more to talk about now, 20 years later. more experience. i got to be honest, i like your hair now a lot better. i just do. i never went with that mullet thing. >> really? >> who the heck talked you into

that? >> you know what? just one of those things. >> and tell me about the new autobiography. is it going to be juicy? is it a page turner? >> well, let's hope so. >> did you write it yourself? autobiography means you wrote it yourself. >> that's right. i'm still writing now. should be out later this year. and again, it parallels the music and i kind of had to take just a little bit of a break from writing because i got so involved in making this album that said, you know what? the book is about the music and i can't finish the book if imanticipate still doing the music. >> yeah. compartmentalize yourself so much. >> i'm excited. tomorrow i'm going to play a couple things from the album. it is going to be a lot of fun. >> awesome. let's hear a little of it. >> sure. if you got some. that sounds like "hillbilly heart." good old rock, stomping southern, just rocking and

stomping. >> i love the intertroe but it would be lovely to hear you sing. >> you'll hear that tomorrow. all of my roots, all of my influence is really come together and make this album really special. >> what state did you grow up in? >> kentucky. >> kentucky. which we love. love, love. what a gorgeous state. >> it is amazing. >> yeah. i haven't been to louisville -- the first time i went to louisville i thought, now i understand why they call it blue grass. >> congratulations, kentucky wildcats! >> oh, yeah! >> did you watch the game last night? >> i didn't. i was reading my bible. >> they're champions. go big blue! congratulations. >> that's their eighth time, right? i read about it. >> it was an amazing game. the team was great and as always, the state of kentucky -- it was amazing. >> did you proud! talk about doing you proud. how is our miley doing now? >> doing great. >> she's 19. >> working on a new album, just staying very busy and very happy right now. >> i think i read somewhere recently that she -- these days

i don't believe what i read and i don't believe what i hear. i've gotten in trouble recently for that. tell me, is she happy about the hannah montana experience, the whole thing? would she do things differently if she had it back, and would you, too? >> i think that for both of us, we look at that and cherish that experience. you know? it was a great time in our lives and certainly was able to step forward and we wanted to make family entertainment. >> and you did. >> make people laugh. >> but it became -- >> make people cry, make people sing. give something that the whole family could do together and feel those emotions of life. and again, as professionals for us to work together and evolve, it was an experience both of us i think will always cherish. >> you were telling me though earlier today that she did give up certain things in life because of it. we're going to be talking about proms these days and how people are coming down on what these girls are wearing to proms. i asked her, i said was miley ever able to go to her own prom?

>> yeah. we were doing "hannah" during her prom time. we did take her to one little prom -- it was like almost prom. >> but it wasn't her prom. >> one time i took my mom to nashville and she loved willie nelson but she met almost-willie. >> who's that? kris kristofferson? >> no. it was just like a guy pulling a truck that kind of looked like willie. my mom came in and said i just met willie nelson. it was at shoney's in nashville. i went out, the truck went out and said "almost willie." miley went to the almost-prom. >> nice boyfriend she's got, liam. >> "hunger games" is amazing. have you seen it? >> but look how sophisticated she looks. >> have you seen the "hunger games"? >> yes. i saw it and loved it. i hear he's got the role in the next movie. that will test their relationship a little. you snow once he starts getting lots and lots of attention.

she's used to it but i don't think he is. >> they're doing pretty good. >> now. i know. i wish them the best but you know what can happen. >> it can be tough out there, yeah. >> um-hmm. >> but they got a great script, got a great cast. going back to the movie. >> you're putting a different spin on everything. tomorrow we're going to talk to you -- >> congratulations to liam. >> we'll talk about that tomorrow because i want to get to this prom stuff. okay? he's going to be with me tomorrow obviously. >> 90210? >> let's talk about it. >> you're going to play -- i love the name of this guy you're going to play -- judd -- what is it? ridge? >> judge ridge. >> smokey mountains taken. judd ridge. >> this is my second time to be judd. >> it is a real stretch for you, i hear. >> yeah -- >> what's this guy like? >> he's kind of rude and okay noxious. that was different. >> you aren't rude and you are not obnoxious. >> i try to be nice to everybody. so it's fun for me to play that type of character.

dib it once before in a movie called "bait shop." i played a guy called hot rod johnson. hot rod was pretty obnoxious, too. >> can't you ever just have a normal name. why do you and i have three names to begin with? billy ray cyrus, kathie lee gifford. lots of others. we figured out that there are some other people too with three names like jack "the ripper." who are some of the other ones? john wilkes booth. who were you named after? >> how about some more positive ones. >> jamie lee curtis. all right, so where did you get the ray? who's that? >> you know, when i was born -- >> no, i don't know. >> papaw and mamaw came to see me, cyrus, at the hospital. my papaw's eyesight was fading.

i had a wrist band on that said baby boy cyrus and he misread it to be billy ray cyrus. my mamaw heard that and said billy ray cyrus and they thought perfect. >> he's so doggone cute, you believe him. did that really happen? >> no. i just made it up for the book. >> you didn't have to take her to the prom, our miss miley, but many parents are facing that right now. they're going to have some strict dress codes coming up. we have some powerful visuals to demonstrate what is acceptable and what is not. whoa! it's a hooker convention. oh, it looks like that adult entertainment thing they do at the -- in vegas every year. not that i've ever visited but i've heard. yeah. you know, cassidy, my daughter, is just around your daughter's age and she models for a wonderful design er named sherr

hill. now that's age appropriate, don't you think? >> perfect. >> it's short but they've got great legs -- there she is with kendall jenner. those are beautiful little dresses, i think. so i feel prepared today. >> did you say that was your daughter? >> the little blonde. >> let me see that again. >> no, let's not. i don't like it -- >> she looks just like you. >> oh, now i love you. there she goes again. >> twins. >> she's going to be 19. she's a little actress. i watched you go through what you went through with miley. cass did, too. she actually auditioned for some stuff on your show. didn't get it. >> she's so beautiful. >> thank you. she's a good, good girl. want to talk about some other things with you.

what do you want to talk about, big boy? >> i got a new tv show i'm working on. >> we just talked about that. >> no, no, it is a new one called nash vegas. >> my gosh! when do you sleep? >> we're casting for my daughter. your daughter should audition for my daughter in my new show "nash vegas." >> what would she have to do as your daughter? >> she comes to court -- well, i shouldn't tell you any more about it really. >> all right. she can audition but i'm coming with her. you know that women work harder than men? i bet you miley would tell you that's true. we'll talk about that again tomorrow, too. we're running out of time. >> i have an ex-wife on this new show, too. you guys could be like a team. >> you're going to have to stay through the entire week. hoda, take a few more days off because he speaks a little slower so we don't get in as much. billy ray, i'm so happy you're here, honey. we'll talk about more stuff tomorrow. in the meantime, in sickness and in health means a lot more to these reality stars, giuliana

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welcoming viewers into their lives. >> the reality series "giuliana and bill," it's so good. >> it's coming back for a fifth season on our sister channel. this time around they face their toughest challenge yet. and they are here to tell us about it. i thought we were going to that clip. we're not. >> we can do it live. we'll re-enact it. >> so welcome, you guys. that's so good to see you. you know how i mean that. but also so good to see you looking so strong, looking so healthy. tell us how you're doing. >> feeling fantastic. honestly, kathie lee. everything has been incredible, knock on wood. i found the breast cancer early. that's the most important thing. so i made it my purpose to get out there and let women know, if you find it early, hopefully you can be okay, too. >> you think you're tough -- because we're in a tough business anyway -- but you don't really know until you are faced with something like this. you also don't know how strong your love is, do you? >> that's right. that's right. >> i think it definitely tests

any relationship and for us, fortunately it made us stronger because when one of us is down, the other one's there to pick the other one up. so we're very lucky that we found each other and this is something that is really changed our lives, changed probably a lot of other people's lives because giuliana's been so brave in sharing the message. >> i wanted to tell you, your bravery is just so awesome, overwhelming. you've been such a light and such a strength for so many people around the world. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >> i think people really liked you before, now they adore you. i really mean that. it's true. because people like to see people that find strength and can take adversity in their lives and bring beauty out of the ashes. >> you know what it is, truthfully? it is very easy to get sucked in to the negative. and you have every right to do that and i did that in the beginning. >> you had a little pity party. >> absolutely. but once i went through the cycle of grief i was able to come out of it and say what's positive in my life. i have an amazing husband, a

great career, i have a beautiful family. he's really cute. so i was able to focus on the positive. there are a lot of really good things in my life so i choose to focus on those. >> i always say it can make you bitter or it can make you better, it is all in the letter "i," how "i" decide. it takes a lot of faith, family and friends -- >> and a lot of laughter. we laughed so much. tonight's episode is really -- >> good. tell us. because it is not all about cancer. >> not at all. >> tonight's episode, we show the behind-the-scenes of how we found out, how we told people. it is a very revealing episode tonight, but then from there on out, you really see how bill and i try to find the humor in every situation because sometimes you got to laugh. >> you're going through all kinds of other things as well. aren't you in a new home -- what's up with the mother? >> my mother. >> all kinds of -- who needs the mother-in-law on top of everything else? >> i need her now to take care of me! >> everything else in the mix,

we opened up a restaurant this season in chicago. >> why not. >> to distract me, i think. it was a good distraction. but having my mom around, to me is incredible. my mom is hard-core italian. >> doesn't speak english. >> when bill goes out of town she sleeps in bed with me on bill's side. >> he doesn't like that. >> what? >> billy ray, come on, man. i come back, there's makeup on my pillow. that's a little weird. >> that's kinkier than we want to know. >> i see a lot of happiness in their household. >> thank you. you guys are a great team, really. >> well, we love you guys. we're thrilled with all the good news and we will be watching your lives unfold before our very eyes. the new season of "giuliana and bill" premiers tonight at 8:00 p.m. on the style network. one the new york's most

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broadway may never be the same again. bright lights. massive billboards. flashy productions. broadway is rolling. and rockin'. clearly not your standard musical, the tony nominated "rock of ages" is celebrating its third anniversary on broadway this month. but the party doesn't stop there. this summer, tom cruise, catherine zeta-jones and russell brand will be bringing this totally tubular musical to the big screen. >> this club is totally out of control! >> reporter: but would yours truly have enough punch and pizazz to join this '80s back on stage? >> for you we created an extra special bit to start the show. >> is it because you know of my vast acting experience? teach me a song. i heard this was a musical. >> reporter: i was slowly slipping into character. it's the '80s. am i going to be in like --

>> we're going to get you all hooked up. your hair's going to be big and bold. >> been there before. crimping and curling. where were you when i was in eighth grade? >> i had this curling iron. i might still have it in a box. hair scares aside, i took to the stage to practice. oops! hey, that's what rehearsals are for, right? >> we're going back to a sexier time. >> with that hair, and her attitude and that popsicle, it's a go. >> reporter: i'm getting ready to get into my costume, i'm heading into wardrobe. wait for it? tell me about it, stud. >> yeah! >> that's the way we like to do it. >> you're going to be breaking some hearts in that audience.

>> yes, diva. yes, you look amazing! >> reporter: almost show time. >> have you my popsicle? >> reporter: i was ready to rock with cameo number one. >> we are going back to a sexier time. >> i'm ready to rock. >> that's what i mean! >> reporter: i focused on the popsicle. that's just the beginning. okay, my cue was the butterfly that flew off and he didn't. my head just naturally was like where is it going? as the evening progressed, i gained composure and confidence. >> is it? >> yes! >> is it? >> yes! >> on stage, or backstage, i had the best view in the house. caught up in the music and magic, my moment in the spotlight was slowly dimming. the time had come for my curtain

call. "rock of ages" rocked my world. >> she rocked! >> i could die now a happy woman. >> that was the best thing ever. it was the most amount of stage time they've ever given a walk-on. i think kathie lee and hoda name dropping helped me. >> might have also slammed the door in your face. >> i kept pulling the costume up and they kept pulling it down. >> you didn't seem nervous. did the butterflies inside, too? >> i think the most humbling part was not the audience. it is looking around with the talent you are standing on stage with saying someone doesn't belong here and it might be me. >> we may be losing her to the great white way. >> you rocked it, sara. >> thank you. we got a lot of show today still ahead.

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back on this booze-day tuesday with more of "today" and our special guest host, the talented billy ray cyrus who's filling in for hoda today. we also have a very special guest i haven't seen in a while, shannon dougherty. >> she played brenda walsh on "beverly hills 90210." >> then in 1998 she starred in "charmed" and played a witch. but today she's starring in her own reality show, planning a wedding for her now-husband. >> i need your help, so wedding, location. >> i'm playing football on sunday. >> we have wedding locations to

look at. this is not going to work for him. or me. >> the teams are already picked. i'm 1 of the 5 on that side -- >> well they could unpick you and get somebody else. can somebody replace me on "90210"? they can replace you in a football game. >> ooh. shannon's here to tell us all about it. so he's russian but he's not -- >> well, he's not a first-generation. exactly. but he's got the russian last name, the russian fire. >> he should be on "dancing with the stars." i think that's a real stretch for him. you said he wasn't too thrilled about doing this. >> no. he's an unbelievably talented photographer who works quite a bit. >> can he take your picture for free. >> yeah, that's how we met. i requested him for a cover of a

magazine. so, yeah. he already has his career. he was a little like, why would i possibly do this? i was like, i think it will be cool. you know? a lot of people think it's just them that goes through all the stress planning a wedding and the bride and groom start fighting and there's all this turmoil and meltdowns and everything else. i'm like, let's just document this experience so that women out there know it is not just them, that everybody goes through this. >> it was seven weeks you had to plan this wedding. hilarity ensued, right? >> yes. seven weeks to plan a wedding is crazy. then you add a tv show with cameras in your face for seven weeks and it makes it even crazier. >> you had been married before. >> yes. >> nobody ever knows what goes on in anybody else's home. but you went through some tough times. that you would agree. >> yes. yes. >> you said you'd never get married again. was that you, shannon dougherty? >> yes, it was probably the me that was very sort of

desensitive and closed off because i had failed. >> you failed together. >> i don't like to fail. but you know, the difference is i feel like i was never married until kurt because we've known each other for 3 1/2 years, we knew each other for three years before we got married. we went through all the couples therapy, we really worked out our problems. we would separate for 24 hours going -- i'm done with you! then automatically come right back and say, all right, you know what? we're stuck with each other. we love each other. we're soulmates so we just had to figure out a really healthy way to get through all of our problems and we have. we almost never fight anymore. it is crazy. >> a lot of people choose today not to get married. you snow they stay together, they're together, they even have families together, and there doesn't seem to be any problem with that in terms of the way the world looks. there's no stigma attached anymore. why was it important for you to be his wife?

>> i am from the south. i'm from tennessee and mississippi so i'm very traditional. my grandmother would absolutely kill me if i -- >> now the truth. >> -- didn't put a ring on it. also -- hi, granny. also, there's -- i don't think there's any way in the world that i would give up the moment that my husband proposed to me. i mean he was crying, it was so beautiful, it was so special. he put so much effort into it. that's -- how do you replace something like that with like, hey, you want to move in together? >> yeah. well we're happy for you and we're looking forward to it. it's called "shannen says." up next -- don't let april showers dampen your spring break. >> we're going to try out some indoor activities the whole family can enjoy right after this. ♪ [ female announcer ] irresistibly touchable skin hour after hour. ♪

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spring break is here which can be a big challenge for parents who want to keep their kids entertained without letting technology take over. >> and if april showers have you stuck inside, family fun magazine's deputy editor mary giles has some great ideas to keep everybody busy. >> yeah. great to see you again, mary. hi, kids! hey! so the first thing -- i mean it is fun to have them home but then whether the weather turns, it's like -- >> give me some ideas if you've got april showers and antsy kids. >> that's why you're here. >> everything here is inexpensive. easy to pull together. this is all already passed the fun test with our family fun

tester. she can guarantee it is going to bring laughs into your house. this is fiona. we're making ice cream in a bag. you can make ice cream with just what you see here. >> stop it! >> in this bag, two tablespoons sugar, one cup half and half, one take spoon of vanilla. in this big gallon bag, pour in a half a cup of salt with our ice cubes. dump it. we're going to put this bag in that bag of salt. >> make sure you put the bag in. >> fiona's going to shake -- just hold it tight there and shake it for five minutes! >> we believe you. five minutes. that will become ice cream? >> that is going to burn some energy. that is ice cream. we won't actually do five minutes here. burn that energy, right? this is what it looks like when

it is finished. you can add a mix in. would anyone like to taste that ice cream? >> sure. >> fiona, you can, too. >> is this one you've already made? >> this is one we made. we shook this one for about five minutes. it is actually the very delicious ice cream -- >> mmm! that is good. reminds me of snow cream. >> yum! >> whatever that is. fiona, thank you, darling. jake. >> after you made your ice cream, you can use your half and half container to make one of these absolutely adorable birdhouses. >> those are darling! >> jake, come back over here. just cover it with paper to hide the lettering. glue that on. if you don't have a container, you can buy one of these little birdhouses for about a dollar in a craft store. go on a nature walk, collect twigs, acorns, glue those on. >> how cute is that? i love that. >> i had an uncle up in kentucky that made a living making

birdhouses. >> those were elaborate, right? >> they aren't made to hold up to the outdoors but they're super cute -- >> that's a great present for your teacher at the end of the year if you took the time to make it for your teacher. would you do that, alexandra? >> this is more fun for kids i think than shuffle board. use tape to make a scoring triangle, 50 points, 25, 10. have you a starting line as well. you just slide your bottle caps. 25 points, billy ray. see if you can knock her out. >> first one to 200 points wins. >> i bet they can play that all day long. >> the tape comes right up. >> who do we have here? >> this is rose. >> hi, rose. >> this is tabletop soccer. we love family fun to recycle things out of your recycling bin to give them new life.

this is a pizza box made to look like a soccer field. we're going to challenge -- >> keep going. >> i will play rose. we'll use a straw to blow our cotton ball soccer ball and try and score. >> oh, okay -- fun! >> i blocked you! sorry, rose. >> this is my favorite of all. come on, billy ray. >> no way! >> tie that around your waist. this is a very cute game for children. >> are you sure? >> come on, billy ray. >> will i go to jail for this? what are you doing? >> you're going to knock that orange -- no feet, no hands allowed. >> no hands allowed? >> yes. >> use your orange to knock the other orange across the -- >> that looks wrong. >> just don't touch it with your

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new series called "too good to be healthy." today we've got some great options for the snacker in you. everybody has a snacker in them. >> this is too good to be healthy. these chocolate covered prunes? >> everything on the table is delicious! >> joy bauer knows everything about everything. tell us what we're going to have. you say all of this is nutritious and low-calorie. >> whenever i feature foods, healthy food finds on my facebook or twitter, everybody goes crazy. i'm doing all the work for you. >> you set the world atwitter. >> the ingredients are clean, sugar, salt, no preservatives. >> even you and i will like them. >> you're going to eat your way

through the table. >> we're ready. >> the first one is almond crunch. you got to try these. they add three simple ingredients and it gives it major crunch and pure deliciousness. six pieces are 156 calories. they're great, right? >> that's amazing. >> this is good for both of you. they're widely available in airports so they're always my go-to snack on the plane. really good. mrs. mae's almond crunch. this is canyon bakehouse gluten-free cinnamon raisin bread. for a gluten-free bread, it is incredibly moist. it has things like brown rice flour an sunflower seeds an sesame seeds and olive oil. really natural ingredients. >> want to try a little of that? >> still working on the nuts. >> it's delicious, right? >> you're right. it is moist. >> people that have to go gluten

free, it is a great find but also if you don't, it is a nice treat because it has a shot of cinnamon and sweet. >> 90 calories per slice. >> what i like about this, we know that laughing cow always has the light swiss cheese triangles but finally they came out with reduced fat cream cheese triangles. when you go to a deli, you are at the mercy of their spread. 200-plus calories just from the full-fat cream cheese. one triangle i'm featuring the plain and garden vegetable is just 45 calories. you pop it in your purse, bring it to the office, anywhere. >> now i'm sorry, these are unbelievable! >> these are great. this is a dark chocolate sun sweet dried plums, which are prudence. you get 14 pieces for 120 calories and it tastes like expensive decadent dark chocolate. >> it totally does. >> chewy sweet center but it is inexpensive. that's the best part.

this is perky turkey jerky. it's packed with protein. >> my turkey jerky heart! >> it's packed with protein and it is ridiculously low in sodium. normally jerky is through the roof. it's got no preservatives and it gets its perkyness because they add a little bit of caffeine. >> which we don't mind. >> takes a real man to eat that. how is that? >> very jerky. >> we have a little pizza thing happening down here. >> this is one of my personal recipes. a slice of pizza is north of 600 calories. what i did here for just 225 calories, i took a whole wheat pita and toasted it, put part-skim ricotta cheese on top, garlic, salt and pepper, crushed red pepper, in the oven for eight minutes at 425. 225 calories. and it's on the website.

>> okay, i'll have one more. thank you so much, joy. mother and daughter authors mary and carol higgins clark up next. but first, there is "today" on nbc.

with more than 50 books written between them, mary hill gi higgins clark and carol higgins clark are called the queens of suspense. >> with enough plots, twists and turns to make you dizzy. literary delight. >> that's right. sound like a song title. doesn't it? >> sure does. >> mary's new novel is called "the lost years," and carol's book is called "gypped." a reagan riley mystery. ladies, both firsts. you write together sometimes but this time you -- >> we each write a separate novel a year but it always comes out together and that way we can

travel together. >> i know. if it's tuesday, there's a new book by the higgins clarks. yours is an interesting premise. tell us about -- it's -- you tell us. >> okay. i will make it the quickest thing. my editor said i'd like to see a biblical reference. how about a letter that may have been written by christ? and i said, you're crazy! but then it teased me and it teased me and i thought, christ might have written a letter to joseph. he was a secret disciple so i kept going back to it. then it would be more valuable than the constitution, than the declaration of independence. >> it would be the most valuable piece of literature in the world, wouldn't it? >> in the world. >> and somebody knows how priceless that would be -- >> and has to have it. >> she writes such great thrillers. they're wonderful! carol, what's yours? >> well, my character reagan

riley is a continuing character in my series. she goes to los angeles with her husband. she's out shopping one day an runs into a woman she was on a game show with seven years before. i was on "super password" a long time ago. neither one of them won on the game show but this girl has inherited $8 million from a neighbor she barely knows. now she has people who want her money and -- >> imagine that. so rude. >> it never happens, right? >> a real stretch. >> reagan gets involved with finding out what's going on in her life. >> okay, great. well what i love about you two ladies, is life is not just writing these wonderful books. i always see you at the home games for the giants. >> oh, you bet! >> i see you at the -- >> i always have jimmy in this. >> but this time i couldn't fit him in.

then in the ep lilogue, some of the characters say i haven't seen him since we had dinner. tomorrow billy ray's coming back. plus, tips and tricks for looking thinner. >> then i'm coming back tomorrow. [ male announcer ] does your cable company keep charging you more...

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