es. fe t erg fr yr etp. >> announcer: today on an all-new "dr. phil." >> jani has hallucinations a lot. >> dr. phil: she's seeing something that isn't there. >> it's schizophrenia. >> announcer: dr. phil takes you inside the world. >> dr. phil: here hallucinations tell her to jump off building. >> announcer: of a 10-year-old child. >> dr. phil: she's been agitated. >> with schizophrenia. >> dr. phil: this is an inability to get a thought and stay with it. what is calalini? >> i don't know. >> dr. phil: let's do it. if we're going to do something here that matters, then we've got to deal with the truth. >> have a good show, everybody. here we go. >> dr. phil: if i can help get this family back on track, are you willing to do that? >> ready, three. take. >> dr. phil: this is going to be a changing day in your life. [cheers & applause]

>> dr. phil: you know, every parent can relate to the joy of bringing home their first born, right? think about it. all of their hopes and dreams for their future wrapped up in a little baby blanket. well, imagine that by the time they take their first step, they're walking into madness. they begin hallucinating creatur creatures. these things scratch and bite her in her mind and tell her to jump off two-story buildings. that is exactly what happened to my first guest, michael and susan, who discovered that their daughter, jani was schizophrenic and hallucinating 95% of the time. one of the first times jani was

seen in public is when oprah visited her years ago. america was riveted. take a look. >> can you tell me what these mean? >> category four -- cat 400. where does she live? >> where is calalini? >> it's on the border of my world around your world. >> meaning his world. >> yeah. >> dr. phil: that was a few years back. a lot has happened since then. jani has turned 10. she still struggling with the same hallucinations but now her parents have another concern. they fear her little brother may be schizophrenic as well. >> when noticed that jani was

isolated. she wanted to play with her imaginary friends more than real friends. >> jani was diagnosed at 6 with schizophrenia. >> it's like we entered this dark tunnel and i was scared. >> i felt terrified that i was going to have to watch her slip away. >> jani sees things, she feels things, she hears things that other people don't. >> here's the kitty cat. >> i know she's hallucinating when she looked up to the ceiling with her eyes locked on something. >> jani has tactile hallucinations a lot. the worst is when she feels like she's having diarrhea. >> you don't have it. you're okay. >> jani has probably over 100 animals, numbers and people in her world. according to jani, they all exist in a police called calalini or roxie. some of the hallucinations tell her what to do and how to act.

>> 400. >> the cat will scratch jani if she doesn't do what she says. >> midnight is a black cat. >> did you see her? >> only i can see the cat. she's my cat. >> i believe baby is a person that tells her to jump off buildings. >> blink is jani's pet. >> blink is a beagle. she's had him for about a year now. >> that's what blink looks like? i've never seen blink before. >> he's my dog. >> who? >> blink. >> he's here. >> what scares me is i don't know what kind of power they have. >> part of schizophrenia is violence. >> it got to the point where being hit and being kicked and being bitten and scratched was

part of it. >> her imaginary friends will tell her to do things like hurt herself or bodi. >> i never know if she's going to pick up a pencil, shove it in her ear. >> for 2 1/2 years, we had to move her out of the home. we feared for bodi at the time because he was an infant. because of the medication, her violence has diminished. we have embraced raising jani ourself. because we know we're the best caregivers for her. we're her parents. >> jani should be brushing her teeth by herself. but won't. watching jani struggle with this, i can't fix it, it's very hard to deal with. >> there are times that i feel i can't take think anymore and i just want to leave forever. >> dr. phil: well, i paid a

visit to jani. you'll see that in a bit. first, i want to talk to her parents, michael and susan. we spent some time together recently. good to see you again. >> thank you. >> dr. phil: just to help people understand the progression. when was your first clue, what was the first time that something in your head said this is not going to be a normal progression? >> well, when she was born, she wasn't sleeping. she was up every 20 to 30 minutes. >> we were thinking colic or something. >> right. you know. >> the normal things that make babies not sleep. >> every time we went to the pediatrician she would say, some babies are active, some are passive. >> turned out it was a stimulation issue. the more stimulation she got, the more she would sleep. whichever parent had her that day, would take her out in the morning and stay out until

9:00 a.m. you had to wear out her mind. >> dr. phil: tell me, how do you determine that she is seeing something that isn't there? >> first we didn't even know. we thought they were imaginary friends. >> and she tested with a genius i.q. she tested with a 146 iq. >> everybody keep saying aspbergers. >> she tested with other kids -- >> dr. phil: here's my question. take me through the first day that you realized that this child has had a visual hallucination. >> jani and i would take our dog hunting up to the local elementary school to let her run around after school was out. some kids on bikes rode into the playground. honey started trotting towards them. i called out, you know, it's okay, she doesn't bite.

then jani suddenly yells out, be careful of wednesday. she can bite you. the kids immediately thought honey was wednesday. wednesday, the rat. so i get upset with jani. i said, jani, wednesday is not real. wednesday cannot hurt them. she says with complete seriousness, she says yes, she can. she can hurt them in their head. that was really the first time -- >> dr. phil: that's interesting. because she was able to make the distinction, this rat is in my head, it can be in their head. what was the first -- >> she knew before we knew. >> it's like that moment in, you know, poltergeist, they're here! it was a very -- it's very disturbing -- >> it's what people would have called, you know, the exorcist. all of that stuff.

it is that, but there's a name for it. it's schizophrenia. >> dr. phil: we're talking about, first off, a very intelligent child here. >> absolutely. >> dr. phil: her delusional system, her hallucinations are very well articulated. calalini is her whole other world. >> yes. >> dr. phil: she has 400 the cat, wednesday the rat, blink the beagle, a 12 girl, a 11 girl, midnight the cat, emily 64 a cat, saturn the rat, 34 a bird, 100 degrees, which is a girl. 200 the rat, magical 61 the cat. carniverous numbers and the nothing. she will never get one wrong from the other. it's well-articulated and very well entrenched. susan and michael decided to

have another child as a companion for jani because of her struggle to make friends. take a look. >> i agreed to have another child because we couldn't find another child that jani could relate to. >> she's got all these imaginary friends. maybe she just needs a brother or sister. when bodi was born, we brought him home to a nightmare. when bodi was about 1 1/2 years old, he wasn't talking. he was diagnosed with autism. my greatest fear for bodi is he's schizophrenic, too. >> i get upset every time she says that because i don't want to believe that. i wouldn't wish that on anybody. >> i look at it as this the rest of my life. this is the rest of michael's life. it. >> away. >> i don't know what else i could have done. i don't feel guilty that i

brought him into this world. >> dr. phil: you guys have written a book about this called "january 1." it's really a memoir. it's a child's ascent to madness and her father's struggle to save her. you have a history of schizophrenia in your family. >> yes. >> dr. phil: in the book you talked about it. you said that you hoped that schizophrenic jani's baby brother would grow up to be just like her. >> we didn't know she was schizophrenic at the time. we thought she was a genius with imaginary friends. >> dr. phil: that is customary. so i asked to spend some time one-on-one with jani so you'll see how energetic she is -- >> on medication. >> dr. phil: and how exhausting it is for her parents. again, we'll be right back. [applause] >> dr. phil: okay. i'm at the dr. phil house.

i'm getting ready to talk to jani. she's been agitated, running out of the room. she refuses to be mic'd. i'm going to run a mic down my right sleeve to come out at my cuff so you can hear her talk. what is calalini? >> announcer: tomorrow on an all-new "dr. phil." she's a beauty. but she's a brawler. >> dr. phil: you pulled a girl out of the shower and beat her up. >> no. she was already out. >> announcer: is she reaching out for help? >> i didn't want to come on here to embarrass me. >> announcer: or is she looking for a fight? >> you want to pick and pull out of what i've done wrong. >> dr. phil: do you think i know what i'm doing?

>> what scares me is 20 years from now, jani walks into a convenience store and has a psychotic episode and starts destroying things and the cops get called. she doesn't hear them and they taser her or will shoot her. that's what scares me. >> dr. phil: michael and susan are concerned about the future of their schizophrenic 10-year-old jani. i asked to spend some time with her to see how she was and what her parents deal with on a daily basis. so let's take a look at that visit. okay. i'm at the dr. phil house.

i'm getting ready to talk to jani. she's been here for a while. been very agitated, running out of the room. this will be a bit of an on-the-fly situation. she refuses to be mic'd. so i'm going to run a mic down my right sleeve to come out at my cuff so you can hear her talk. i'm going to be asking her questions. tell me about the world that she lives in apart from us. her parents are here. and they're going to be prepared to step in and help if necessary. there's also a nurse here. all right. are you jani? >> i'm jani. >> dr. phil: i'm dr. phil. how are you? >> hi, dr. phil. nice to meet you. >> we're here cooking a second. >> want some? >> dr. phil: i do. do you like pets? >> i like cookies. >> dr. phil: we'll talk about cookies in a minute. tell me about pets.

do you have a dog? >> yes. >> dr. phil: what is your dog's name? do you have a dog named blink? >> blink, yeah. >> dr. phil: tell me about blink. is blink a beagle? >> beagle. >> dr. phil: we do have a dog here if you want to see it. >> what's his name? >> dr. phil: joey. >> i want cookies. >> dr. phil: you want to see joey first? >> yeah. >> dr. phil: hey, joey. >> doggie. >> dr. phil: do you have cats? >> one cat. midnight. >> dr. phil: is midnight one of just your friends or is it something i can see, too? >> one of my friends. >> dr. phil: just your friend. can i see midnight? >> nope. >> dr. phil: how come? okay. you want to make cookies? all right. i guess we'll go make cookies. can you tell me who 400 is? >> my cat. >> dr. phil: what kind of cat is 400? is 400 a good cat or a bad cat? >> good cat. >> dr. phil: tell me who 80 is. >> my friend.

>> dr. phil: yeah? is 80 a friend that i can meet or is 80 a friend that just you meet. >> that i can meet. >> dr. phil: just for you. what you're seeing here is a flight of ideas. it's an inability to get a thought or an idea and stay with it. that's why you see i want to see the dog, i want to make a sandwich. i want cookies, i want sandwich, cookies, cookies, sandwich. i've been trying to keep up with her for 20 minutes and i'm sweating. hey, jani. you want to check the cookies? let's do it. perfect. danny, these are perfect. >> they came out perfect! >> dr. phil: you want to let them cool? >> no. >> dr. phil: okay. >> where's joey? >> dr. phil: joey the dog? he wandered off. he'll come back. at times she wandered off. this time she went looking for joey the dog. eventually we brought joey back in the room to try to get her to

focus as best she could. >> yeah, look at that. >> dr. phil: what is calalini? it's your own world? when you have your other pets like 400 the cat, do you ever pet 400 the cat or is 400 the cat mean? >> mean. >> dr. phil: who is 24 hours? >> my friend. >> dr. phil: yeah. how old is she? >> 15. >> dr. phil: oh, she's older than you. is she a nice girl? >> yeah. >> dr. phil: are they nice? >> yeah. >> dr. phil: what do you talk about? >> one is 9. >> dr. phil: one is 9. >> dr. phil: and wednesday is 3. so what do you talk about with 24 hours? you guys tell stories? >> we play -- chase midnight. >> dr. phil: you chase midnight. who is faster, you or 24 hours?

>> she's faster. >> dr. phil: she's faster? how come? she's older? >> yeah. >> dr. phil: what does 24 hours look like? >> brown hair. >> dr. phil: brown hair. tell me why you like to rub your hands together like this. you know why you like to do that? >> you want a cookie? >> i would love a cookie. jani, jani -- you know, the rapid hand moving is something she's always done. i think she's kind of -- it's a release of energy. she does it when she's happy. >> dr. phil: she's been at times very focused and at times wandering. is this fairly typical of her level of functioning? >> yep, yep. >> dr. phil: i appreciate you giving us this time today and letting me spend time with her. thank you for coming. so proud to meet you. okay. so now, at this point she is pretty regulated on her meds,

right? >> yes. >> dr. phil: so that's a -- i want people to know. >> she has a level of psychosis, a basis of psychosis -- >> like what people just saw right there, she was on at that time what 600 milligrams of lithium. 250 of plauzapine, which is an anti psychotic and 75 milligrams of thorazene. if any of us took that, we'd be in a coma a walk. >> dr. phil: if she got below those levels -- >> it's goes faster and faster until she goes crazy. that's what happens. >> dr. phil: next, we're going to talk about the issues that susan and michael are having in their marriage that led one of them to actually betray the other. we're going to talk about the reality of that when we come back. [applause] >> our lives revolve around the

kids. it's put a strain on our marriage. >> i met a girl. i thought she was everything that susan

>> there's a possibility her schizophrenia could progress as she gets older. she is unchartered territory. we know things will change because she's going to go through puberty. my greatest fear as she starts

to get older is that she could go off her medication for any kind of reason. then anything is game. you're looking at somebody who is completely crazy. there is a possibility jani could do something horrible. >> what will happen afterwards? that's my fear. jani needs people that will go to the end of the earth for her. i don't know if there will always be people like that around. >> dr. phil: susan and michael admit that they at this point are in a sexless marriage that got that way partly due to the never-ending struggle of raising jani and bohdi. take a look at the reality. you're wondering, what is it like for the parents having to be so full time? take a look. >> our lives revolve around the kids. >> let me see. >> susan and i almost never get to talk.

we never get time alone. >> it's put a strain on our marriage. >> i nearly had an affair. i met a girl. i thought she was everything that susan was not. we did kiss. >> i was shocked. came out of nowhere. >> i was looking for somebody to make me forget who i was and what i had to live through. >> what hurts the most is that i had trusted him. >> i betrayed her. i hope she doesn't hold a resentment. >> i guess i forgive him but i don't forget. >> dr. phil: do you say at times that you just hate him? >> yeah. >> dr. phil: you say there's times that you hate her? >> that's true. but we have empathy for each other because we're both going through the same thing. as much as i can hate him, and i do, i still empathize. >> sometimes i deserve it. >> dr. phil: let me interject here. there's a couple of things that i just feel a need to share with ya'll. one thing that i'm sure the

audience will notice is that both of you are very prolific talkers. [laughter] what we see is we see jani who has limited impulse control, is kind of like -- just like out there. >> genetic. >> dr. phil: and talking to the two of you, both of you are just out there. >> that's true. >> dr. phil: and i guess you have so much stimulation that you don't seem to notice that he's talking full time. i mean, he's just totally in the middle of a story and you're telling one parallel to it at the same time. so do you notice that you both talk very fast and at the same time? >> actually i didn't know. [laughter] >> i knew i did. >> dr. phil: did you guys notice that? >> yes! >> i know i do. >> dr. phil: yeah. okay. good. [laughter] so my point is that as you said,

genetics. there may be some of that that is transmitted there. >> uh-huh. >> dr. phil: but on a very serious note, let me say to the two of you, it's a gift to the children if you commit to structuring a way that both separately and together you can have some time to recharge your batteries. because if you think you won't become emotionally bankrupt, if you think you won't get to the point where you are just burned out and have nothing else to give -- >> absolutely. >> dr. phil: -- you will. >> you're right. i've been there a couple times. >> dr. phil: you have to do that. the second thing i'm willing to say is that we truly are making great strides in understanding what underlies a lot of the behaviors you're seeing. there may be some hope on the horizon that can lessen your load. you have to take care of yourself --

>> i agree. >> dr. phil: -- until then or you'll be burned out. thanks for letting us into jani's world. >> thank you. [applause] i appreciate it. >> dr. phil: michael's incredibly candid book is insightful. it's in book stores now. stick around. we're going to meet a mom whose daughter was diagnosed schizophrenic. that little girl is fully grown and now the trouble is she stopped taking her meds, which you guys are very concerned about. and is using dangerous street drugs to self-medicate. this could be an articulation of one of your greatest fears. we'll be right back. [applause] >> ashley's schizophrenia showed up at 8 years old. >> when i see something like a

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[applause] >> dr. phil: i received an e-mail from a desperate mom

named lisa asking for help with her daughter, ashley, who has been diagnosed with everything from schizophrenia to schizoaffective. you don't always have the ability to get to letters so quickly. because we were already working on this story with jani, i thought that this was kind of a fast forward of what can happen in these situations. now, ashley has been hallucinating since childhood but she won't take her prescribed meds. instead, she self-medicates with dangerous street drugs that could kill her. take a look. >> ashley's schizophrenia showed up at a young age. the first time i experienced ashley having hallucinations, she was 8 years old. ashley saw jesus on a horse, seeing a woman coming out of her laundry basket. dead people coming out of an orchard. >> when i see something extremely scary, like a zombie, a severed body.

>> ashley does not want to deal with the mental health issues. she started self-medicated with marijuana and started drinking. she took ecstasy pills. >> i have a heroin habit. i have to use every day. >> my relationship with my daughter is so -- i've enabled her. i've taken her to the drug dealers. given her money. >> we explode on each other. there's so much guilt and hatred. just sickness. it's completely unhealthy. >> dr. phil: okay. thank ya'll for being here. you've been watching the show up till now. >> yes, we have. >> dr. phil: you've seen what we've talked about with the young girl. you experienced a lot of the things that she experienced early in your life. >> yes. >> dr. phil: when you heard us describing her world and what is

going on, you understood that completely, right? >> yeah. i related a lot to her. >> dr. phil: you saw different things. >> yes. >> dr. phil: when you would have hallucinations. tell us in some detail what you saw. >> mine are more demonic or morbid. put a lot of fear into me. i see like severed bodies. i can crawl on the ground or ceiling and they can come at me. >> dr. phil: how often do you see these images now? >> now it's about once or twice a month. >> dr. phil: and when there's stress or pressure or something happening, does that make it more so? >> yeah. i do really well when i'm away from my family. the second i get near my family or my mom comes into my life like i seem to regress a little bit more. >> dr. phil: what we're dealing

with now today is your mother is here and you're coming here, which is stress and demand. has this caused an uptick in any of this? do you see any of these things today, for example? >> actually last night in the hotel we were staying at, i had quite an episode. i had somebody coming out from the bathroom over me. it had me. >> dr. phil: when you say "it had you", tell me what that experience is. >> it starts on the ground and it will crawl up the side of the walls. where i'm pushed up against the back of the headboard. >> dr. phil: but you were physically up against the wall. >> yeah. it has me contained where i can't move. i'm scared to move. >> dr. phil: why did you want to be here today? >> because i want help for me and my mom. i want help for my life because i know that i'm not doing the right thing at all using street

drugs. >> dr. phil: so what street drugs are you using? >> heroin. >> dr. phil: every day? >> uh-huh. >> dr. phil: how much? >> like a gram's worth. >> dr. phil: and how do you get the money? >> i usually -- well, i either work or i swing up some money if i can or asking anybody to help me. >> dr. phil: how do hustle up money? >> now it's either just pretty much playing middleman for people that need other things. so i'll get them other things that they want and -- >> dr. phil: drugs? >> yeah. >> dr. phil: why are you not taking your meds? >> i don't have a steady schedule right now that would -- with medication that i need to take, i need to take it at the same time every night. and during the day. and i don't have a stable place

right now that allows me to do that. so at night i'm jumping from place to place. >> so you don't have a home. >> no. >> dr. phil: there's no where you're live something. >> no. >> dr. phil: so where were you the night before you were at the hotel? >> i was allowed to stay at my grandma's house so i could come here. >> dr. phil: what about the night before? when you don't have a place with your family to stay, where do you stay? >> i flop on couches or stay at places that allow me to stay there. usually drug houses or friends of friends. didn't get like that until a few weeks ago. >> dr. phil: the makeup people here have done a really good job but you appear to have a black eye on the right side. how did that happen? who hit you in the face? >> just a female. with something in her hand. >> dr. phil: was she trying to

hurt you, kill you? >> she was trying to hurt me. >> dr. phil: we're going to take a quick break and then i've got some questions for you. i'm focused here on is there more than just ashley's medical diagnosis that is ruining her life or is her mom's past history a real big factor here as well. we're going to talk about that when we come back. [applause] >> my behavior with using drugs and needing to escape from reality is extremely self-destructive. >> my biggest fear is ashley. i feel horrible. i have totally friends as a parent and i'll never have another chance to help her. >> announcer: tomorrow on an all-new "dr. phil." she's a beauty. >> i didn't want to come on here to embarrass me. >> announcer: has she met her match? >> you want to pick and mull out of things i've done wrong. >> you want to pick and mull out of things i've done wrong. >> dr. phil: don't tell me

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>> when i was a young mother, i had a history of drug and alcohol abuse. i took my daughter to drug houses and i left her there to go get my drugs. >> on one of those occasions, i was molested and taken advantage of. i was 9 years old. when i was told her that was molested, she just cried and cried because she knew that she didn't protect me. >> dr. phil: that was lisa who admits that she hasn't always been a great mom to her daughter, ashley. frankly you've been very forthcoming, lisa, and willing

to talk about whatever if it gets to a solution. >> whatever it takes. >> dr. phil: but you made some real mistakes early on. >> i think i did. >> dr. phil: and you made some real mistakes real recently. i want to talk about that. >> okay. >> dr. phil: early on, you saw hallucinatory behavior in her as early as 7 or 8, or 9 years of age, right? >> yes. >> dr. phil: you would still drop her off at some drug house and go off and do something. >> i did. i know. >> dr. phil: what was your think something what were you thinking? did the drugs have that bad of a grip on you? >> the drugs had a really large grip on me. and i thought i was taking her to a family's house. but they did drugs. they had children there. i thought it was safe. how safe that was, i -- obviously it wasn't. >> dr. phil: how you feel about your mother for exposing you to

that at that young age? >> i didn't get a childhood. i feel like it was completely robbed of me. now i'm expected to just be thrown out and know what to do and not have the right to -- it's a lot to handle. it's a lot of stress. >> dr. phil: and you have -- do i understand this right? you have actually taken her to get heroin? >> i have in this past week. yes, i have. in my mind i had to do what it took to get her to the next day. did i like it? no. did i tell her i'm so against drugs. you wouldn't know it, but i really am. i'm against drugs. i'm against everything they stand for -- >> dr. phil: actually, i do believe that. i think you've seen what it done

to you and done to your family. you're saying you did this because you were afraid that a, she would go into a really bad withdrawal, b, she would run off -- >> absolutely. >> dr. phil: -- and you wouldn't get her here and it would spin out of control and you were putting a band aid on this until you could get through that day, get her here and have something to do something worth while? >> i put aside my values and what i thought was right or wrong just to get her through. >> dr. phil: ashley told us that she's desperate to regain partial custody of her 4-year-old daughter, emma. and next we're going to find out what i think needs to happen before she reunites with that little girl. we'll be right back. [applause] >> ashley just got arrested two weeks ago. >> it was her dad. he filed for emergency custody and got it. i'm really nervous about the

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>> my daughter is 4 years old. her name is emma. i know i'm a good mom. >> ashley just got arrested two weeks ago for driving on a suspended license, being under the influence and having controlled narcotics in the car. >> i went to jail. her father filed for emergency custody and got it until our hearing. >> if ashley were to get help,

she would have 50% custody of her daughter. >> i'm really nervous about the hearings. i don't know what's going to happen. >> dr. phil: well, that was ashley who is planning to go to come tomorrow to fight for partial custody of her 4-year-old daughter. she's not taking her prescribed meds for her schizzo affective disorder. i didn't label that. it's what is written down in the paper. it's not saying it's wrong. she admitted being addicted to heroin. so emma's father got an emergency petition to get custody of the child. >> right. >> dr. phil: when you are couch surfing, when you're flopping in these drug houses or wherever you can find, where is your daughter? >> when i had my daughter, i was at my mom's house.

i was fully there. >> dr. phil: so so far you have never taken her to some of the places your mother took you? >> completely separate. like i -- i'm trying to break that cycle. >> dr. phil: but you do understand that you have an addiction to heroin. >> yes. >> dr. phil: you understand that if you get back into a corner where you are in withdrawal and that drug is calling you and you need that next hit, you need that next fix, that your ability to make rationale decisions will be hugely compromised? >> right. >> dr. phil: you're subject to doing something and rationalizing in your mind and putting your daughter in harm's way? >> right. >> dr. phil: i mean you get that intellectually. you're no, i won't do that. no, you won't do it sitting here. >> like i know -- >> dr. phil: have you taken drugs today? >> no. >> dr. phil: when was the last time you've had heroin?

>> yesterday. >> dr. phil: now you're going to court -- >> no. >> dr. phil: you're on heroin when you go there tomorrow. you took it yesterday, it's in your brain, it's affecting you. >> right. >> dr. phil: so you have a psychotic diagnosis, an addiction to heroin and you're going to petition the court to turn your child over to you? >> no. i'm going to probably -- i'm going to see what the mediator is going to put out on the table for me because right now i'm in the position and i want to get help. i really understand right now today that i can't take care of anybody until i get better. i know that now. going to jail and doing this whole cycle and -- it's just -- it's insanity. it's like insanity on top of insanity. because i'm already like -- i'm already not well. to add everything on top of each other is not healthy for any

4-year-old. >> dr. phil: if you want to be in that little girl's life long-term, you need to straighten her mother out. you have no where to live, you can't even stay on meds regularly because you never know where you're going to be or whatever going to be going on or whatever. then you get addicted heroin. that's calling you. we have to start unraveling this. you need help and treatment for that i'm going to offer it to you. i've asked an associate of mine that i've known a number of years to come here today. he is the founder and executive director of creative care in malibu. it is a duel-dyiiagnostic facility. specializes in treatment of drug and alcohol addictions that are complicated by psychological disorder. >> oh. >> dr. phil: and these guys so get it. i'm offering that care to you. would you like to do that?

>> definitely. thanks so much. because i didn't even know there was a place that offered all of that together. i'm really scared. >> dr. phil: that's okay. we're going to say good-bye here then and go back stage and let you sit down with them and start asking those million questions and get past your fear and decide what you want to do and how you want to do it. okay? be right back. [applause] baby, what matters to me most is what's on the inside. [ annoyed ] i'm pure milk chocolate on the inside. and i love that about you. and here i thought you loved me for my brain. is that made of chocolate too?!!!

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323-461-7445. >> dr. phil: i want to thank all of our guests today. michael schofield's book is "january 1". >> it's a candid look into this very unusual world. everyone in our audience is going home with a copy today. [applause]

you can catch born schizophrenic chapter on the discovery channel. you can see more on my interesting visit with jani. so glad you were here to talk about -- to hear this conversation. because this in many respects on the diagnostic continuum is jani many years down the road here. >> this is what we're trying to prevent. >> one of the things i've always been grateful for, jani's hallucinations don't terrify her. she doesn't see the demons -- >> dr. phil: everyone is different. and it comes from your life experience in many ways. so a special thanks to creative care in malibu for offering to help ashley. really a wonderful facility. [applause] we will have a link to creative care on our website and we'll have a link to your radio

program as our website as well. thanks for being here. so long. [applause] this is 9news now. >> four members of the same family found dead in the same home and tonight, police are trying to sort out what happened. the bodies of two adults and two children were found just before noon in the 13300 block of point ryder lane in herndon. what a scene. >> reporter: whatever happened to this family may have

happened to them sunday night because the neighbors saw them at a picnic sunday and then neither parent showed up for work monday or today. and now neighbors here are struggling to come to grips with what happened in this horrific discovery, which appears to be murder suicide. >> there is no signs of any issues. there's no signs that you could see. >> neighbors struggled to think of anything that might have led to the tragedy in their comfortable neighborhood. a family of four, mother and father and their two teenage boys found dead in their home. >> it's scary to think it happened a few houses down from us. you never would have guessed it from how nice the family seems. >> a friend or family member who arrived was obviously distressed after talking to detectives. signs point to murder suicide, but police are holding back information until next of kin are notified. >> detectives at this point have not gone into a lot of detail about the conditions of