a whisper of 90 degrees in many neighborhoods today. right now outside, partly cloudy and not a terribly cool morning at all and your saturday planner action a partly cloudy start now, 70 degrees downtown already. your planner for the rest of the day, temperatures warming way into the middle and upper 80s again this afternoon. but current temperatures. 60s in the sub beshs to 70 degrees around town. the united states air force academy taking on the naval academy today. 11:30 a.m. kick off. see you in a few more minutes. >> for the first time we're hearing from the family of a woman shot to death by police after she tried to ram her car into the white house and sped off to the capitol. she spoke about the miriam they knew. they said she was smart and fun and her actions were completely out of character but the sisters said they still have a lot of

questions about what happened that day. >> we don't know why miriam ended up going to d.c. we don't know at that time if her depression contributed to her going and taking that ride. we don't know what was in her mind at that time. >> the sisters went on to ask for a formal notification of miriam's death from d.c. police and they spoke about the need to not try and judge their sister before the evidence comes to light and investigators are in the beginning stages of a complex case. >> for sure. considering carey's mental state and the procedures being questioned authorities aren't sure when they'll have concrete answers. danielle lee has more on the investigation from capitol hill. >> reporter: the woman killed by police after trying to drive-thru barracades and leading officers to the capitol held the belief that president obama was communicating with her according to officers.

investigators have been talking to 34-year-old miriam carey's family. she had stopped taking medication for psychosis and postpartum depression she experienced after giving birth to her child found unharmed after the chase. 26 shots were fired by both the secret service and capitol police as they tried to stop carey that was unarmed. the washington police department is now examining whether the deadly use of force was warranted. >> the police officers that were firing that shot knew that she had not fired back. that could be an issue. >> in lawmakers minds, the officers, especially the two injured, are heros. >> these brave men and women put their lives on the risk every day. >> reporter: now they're risking their lives without pay because of the shutdown. carey's family is now working to bring her little girl back to connecticut. currently she is with child protective services.

until last night they weren't sure where the child was being kept. today is day five of the government shutdown. the house will convene later this morning followed by the senate around noon. house lawmakers will vote on a bill to pay nearly 800,000 federal workers now on furlough. the back pay will come once the shutdown ends. the house passed seven minifunding bills. they'll reconvene at noon. harry reid and the senate won't take up any of the bills. they're saying congress should reopen the entire federal government. >> also today they'll hold a news conference at the capitol to call for negotiations to reopen the government and democrats will hold one this morning. several couples set to marry at the national mall this weekend had no choice but to change their plans because of the show down. today two couples will get married in the gardens of the

national cathedral. the cathedral is offering it's gardens for those ceremonies free of charge. >> it's only been a few days but the administration is already shutting down the website where people can sign up for the affordable care act temporarily. the application function of health care.gov will be unavailable during the off hours this weekend. only during off hours. they're shutting it down to take care of glitches in the system. equipment will be added to handle more traffic. the tech issues crashed the site. upon launch on tuesday millions of people logged on to the sites stopping it in it's tracks when it launched and consumers have until the 15th. that begins on january 1st. the maryland health connection bus will be rolling into laurel high school around 10:00 this morning. there will also be people ready to help sign up anyone that's interesting at healthy living

fair and the festival at the community center. the website crashed almost as soon as it opened because of high demand. >> first responders are beginning an emergency drill at virginia hospital center in arlington. crews will respond to a mock fire on the hospital grounds to provide hands on training for several staff. it won't effect normal hospital services and will last until noon. >> the seasonal event that will have roads shutdown around a busy part of northern virginia today. >> hoping for the best but preparing for the worst. the work to get ready for tropical storm karen. plus how the system could impact our own weather. also a busy weekend for metro crews. the station is closed. it could cause you delays. >> how's it going this morning? join us online for the conversation on twitter and facebook. we'll be back on air in just a moment. ♪

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metro trains start running in less than an hour but expect delays. several stations are closed for track work. here's first four traffic with danella sealock. >> weekend track work shutting down several stations. so if you're taking metro this weekend, heads up. that station is closed. also closed judiciary square as well as union station. if you're traveling taking gallery place, that metro station, no red line service there however you are able to jump on the yellow and green line. the final alert for you is at metro center. no red line there but you can use the orange and blue. i'm danella sealock with first four traffic. >> nice weather is scheduled for the final weekend of the virginia state fair. there's bound to be a lot of

traffic t. it will be clear right now. not a lot of people out yet. that's the camera. people are using the less travelled roads. using route 1 and route 301 might help ease the interstate traffic. the fair runs ten days and wraps up on sunday. >> it might not feel like it but fall is in full swings and millions of people are getting ready to celebrate oktoberfest. and the festival will happen from noon until 7:00 tonight. while beer drinkers are enjoying the party several streets will be closed off which will include the street parking in the area. everything should be packed up by 10:00 tonight. nice cool beer. >> that always helps. >> could go wonders. >> preparations happening ahead

of tropical storm karen. >> plus severe weather strikes. the damage left behind by tornadoes. we'll show you the wild weather caught on camera. >> now let's check in with chuck. >> that's right. tomorrow karen down in the fwufl and business sard larynxings in the west dakota. and near 90 again. everything going on in the weather

midwesterners are assessing the damage from devastating tornadoes that tore across the midwest yesterday. places like iowa, south dakota, and nebraska were hardest hit seeing tornadoes a mile wide touchdown. at least 15 people were hurt in the twisters but no fatalities have been reported. 17 different twisters might have been on the ground between the three states. homes, businesses and schools were effected knocking out power to thousands. >> they're linked to the weather front that dumped nearly a foot of snow on the dakotas and the plains. it's accompanied by 70 miles per hour winds and the authority hearsay to issue a no travel advisory in the area. school, business, and main city services are us pended until the weather calms down. we're tracking tropical storm karen. it's expected to make land fall tonight near the southeast

louisiana coast. >> they're warning communities from louisiana through the florida panhandle to prepare. nbc's jay grey is in pensacola beach with the preparations. >> this morning, the surf is building and the wind and rain is on the way here. >> i hope all citizens will continue to be vigilant. be ericafu be careful and prepared. >> watches and warnings now stretch from south louisiana through the florida panhandle. emergency management teams are watching and working around the clock. the red cross is delivering essentials across the region and crews are packing up or locking down everything they can while many who live in the strike zone are stacking sandbags to keep the water out and stocking up supplies to ride out the storm. >> bought lots of water and food and everything. getting prepared for it. >> reporter: on the beach, even the lifeguard stands, like a lot of the visitors here are moving

to higher ground. >> we decided that we're going to leave maybe a day earlier than what we had originally planned. >> reporter: but for some, not before they leave one last set of tracks in the sand as karen continues to track toward the coast. jay grey, nbc news, pensacola beach, florida. >> crazy weather all over the place. >> transition part of the year is october. severe weather is not all that uncommon at this time of the year. of course tropical systems in the gulf. it's no strange time to happen either but to have it all witone map. >> i knlt remember in october where it has felt so hot outside. >> i can tell you one that was recent, 2007, our all time warmest october on record. 15 days that october 80 or higher and three days in the 90s. it can get warm.

we made 90 yesterday. that's our first october 90 degree day since 2007. outside for now, the sky is partly cloudy. there are areas of thick fog so early morning travelers and runners and bikers beware. there's reduced visibility to be contended with. at national airport it's a mild start indeed. dew point temperatures in the mid 60s. any time that gets near 70 degrees that's what we notice. not much of a breeze out there yet. we'll have a light and variable wind today. generally out of the west and northwest. 63 in montgomery county. 61 in manassas. that's far and away one of the cooler spots. mid 60s in fairfax right now and mid 60s toward fredericksburg.

the thickest end from out toward culpepper so just be on the look for a flightily reduced visibility. even fwagaithersburg with fog rt now. ball state taking on virginia at virginia. 85 by the end of the game. kick off is at noontime. a fairly light wind. no chance for rain. tropical storm karen, keeping an eye on this. the center of it is just to the south of new orleans louisiana. eventually it will take on a north easterly direction. by the time we get to tuesday morning, this is 2:00 a.m. tuesday morning the center of what's left of karen will be nearing in on the side west side of raleigh north carolina. all the moisture coming up with it. we're not looking for high winds or anything like that but with all the moisture, yes, heavy rain a real possibility monday

night and off and on through at least the first half of the day on tuesday. we'll get to enjoy a mostly dry weekend. there's a slight chance for a shower today, northern maryland and the mountains of west virginia. most of us will be dry today and tomorrow. near 90 today and tomorrow as well. your weekend plans, nothing to worry about from a rain perspective. a spot shower possible today but not much of a threat. the real rain arrives here on monday. most of us will be a monday afternoon, monday night and tuesday event and finally that will break the heat around here. the snow will keep us cool next week but no snow in our forecast. >> thank you. >> gas prices are dropping across the region. ad

ad ad adam tuss cruised the streets. >> a gallon of regular going for $3.09. you know what that means? people stopping at gas stations like this. over the last month gas prices have been dropping steadily, actually down about 20 cents over the last month. >> i think inside the belt way is always more expensive than outside the beltway. that's how it works. >> it does work that way. in laurel, $3.19. here in manassas, 3.11. i have the gas buddy app. pulls up the cheapest one. >> after the busy summer travel season price versus been dropping. tavrj for a gallon of regular in the d.c. region $3.47 and down 40 cents since last year. we asked on twitter the prices you were seeing.

he says $3.21 in woodbridge. regularly seeing $3.19 in manassas. $3.29 along 198 in laurel. but you can do better than that. >> i'm glad you pointed out how low they are. it made me happy. >> reporter: she says the prices can't come down fast enough. >> if i'm traveling to richmond virginia or jersey for work it makes a difference when they're lower. >> twos. >> i like that. >> i can't believe it. i thought i'd neff see a 2 again. >> never say never. hilary clinton knows all too well when a shutdown could do to our economy. she watched two happen during her husband's administration. what the former first lady said about the current sticking points that had lawmakers at

odds. >> plus the celebration continuing today despite the threat of the shutdown, cancelling it. and we have a programming note, this morning, watch inside the redskins at 7:30 this morning followed by nbc sports coverage of the president's cub at

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happy saturday. in a few hours the maryland terrapins have one of their biggest games in years. the 25th ranked terps visiting the 8th ranks seminoles. cj brown knows just how big this game is. >> we are 4-0. they're 4-0. national televised team, game, it doesn't get any better than that. this is what you play for. to go out there and prove yourself. this will be a good test for us. >> sherwood high school with a big win. up 7-0. he finds thomas for the 56 yard hook up. the head coach said they finally got the playwright after working on it all week in practice. they're 4-1 on the season. to baseball, mlb playoffs heating up. braves fans happy seeing their team hold on against the powerful dodgers. braves up 4-3. but kimbrel shuts the down.

crawford down swinging. atlanta evens the series at one. they win it 4-3. the caps taking on the dallas stars. that's a look at your morning sports. i hope your saturday is a fabulous one. >> the naval academy will take on the air force academy as planned. >> let's look at video. it will happen in annapolis. the air force academy received a $250,000 gift to cover the expenses. the game kix off at 11:30 this morning. go army. a new battle is revving up on old civil war ground. a proposed shortcut would chop right through their land and why this debate would heat up more today. >> more drama about the sbasnatl mall. what we're learning

our top stories this morning, 800,000 federal workers are furloughed for a fifth day. this is a live look at the capitol. the house will vote on a bill to retroactively pay those workers once the government reones. the house passed two more mini spending bills like

programs for fema and nutritional programs. they say congress should reopen the entire federal government. >> the family of the woman that tried to ram her car into the white house is fighting to get custody of her daughter. the little girl, a niece, is being helped with child projective services at this time. we're not sure if the carey family will be able to take her back to connecticut. that's part of the reason they're in d.c. at the moment or if the little girl's father will be coming to take custody of her. tropical storm karen is weakening as it approaches the gulf coast. the winds dropped to 45 miles per hour. a tropical storm warning remains in effect from louisiana to the panhandle of florida and is expected to make landfall tonight. >> but first a check on our own weather. i cannot believe we're feeling so much humidity in october, chuck bell. >> it is very, very rare for us to be so warm and so humid this late into the season. but yes, temperatures again today flirting with 90 degrees

and 90 isn't something you should be flirting with. especially in the month of october. outside, temperatures in the 60s first thing this morning but our average low temperatures this time of the year are down into the low 50s. this is 10 to 15 degrees warmer than average. 70 degrees before the sun is up this morning. one of two sprinkles here across frederick county maryland. most of us dry today. area of fog around this morning, temperatures upper 60s to near 70. we'll be in the mid to upper 70s this morning and mid to upper 80s coming on later this afternoon. maryland is on the road down in tallahassee it will feel like here down into tallahassee today. >> thanks, chuck. former secretary of state says members of congress are damaging

the country to pursue their own agendas. she spoke at hamilton college in new york last night. >> too many in our politics choose scorched earth over common ground. many of our public debates are happening in what i like to call an evidence-free zone. where ideology trumps data and common sense. >> the last shutdown was when her husband was president. she says former president bill clinton worked with republicans during two shutdowns and neither side got everything they wanted but they still managed to balance the budget. >> over to the look at the race for virginia governor. new polling information shows terry mcauliffe with support from 42% of voters statewide. ken cuccinelli has 35% and robert sarvis has 10%.

in about three hours one of those candidates, ken cuccinelli will speak about the proposed by county parkway. the attorney general doesn't support the roadway which will link prince william and lou den county. >> reporter: more than 150 years after the civil war the battle is still raging on paige snyder's historic property. >> this is the tenth battle for us. it's constant. >> reporter: she is fighting to save her land from falling victim to the buy county parkway. it would cut through the western part of the national battlefield park, including part of paige's land. >> about right there in this area is a mass burial. >> she pointed out where union and con federal soldiers are buried and where a railroad is still presevened. >> it's clear where most people

stand when it comes to the by county parkway. you can't miss signs like this one. >> standing by paige, her former nemesis turned fellow advocate, a developer. >> this is a huge negative impact for prince william county. >> but at a public forum vdot explained what the project consisted of. they say it's necessary and will cut down traffic. the project manager addressed the misconceptions. >> that this is an outerbelt way or western bypass. clearly, it's not. >> paige, a democrat is turning to a republican for help. she is hosting a rally with ken cuccinelli on saturday. he is against the project as it currently stands. >> if there are alternatives that are cost effective relative to other things we could do with that money then those alternatives i could potentially support. >> meantime, paige is confident

about the outcome of this battle. >> we know we're going to win it. >> cuccinelli aer's rally shoul last about an hour. >> investigators are trying to determine why a man set himself on fire. this happened yesterday afternoon on the national mall. a witness saw the man dump a can nis administer of gasoline on his head and set himself on fire. rescuers took the victim to the hospital with life threatening injuries. this morning he is listed in critical condition. the fbi needs your help finding a serial bank robber in alex sa al alexandria. it happened at the t.d. bank on the richmond highway. the fbi is offering a $5,000

reward for information that leads to an arrest and conviction in the case. new this morning, the arrest made overnight after a motorcycle group swarmed this suv and a man was attacked. plus how an undercover cop was caught up in this. >> a message from children to >> a message from children to congress after the pumpkin's back at dunkin'? now you tell me. try the new pumpkin pie donut

or any of our other many pumpkin treats today. america runs on dunkin'.

new this morning, another man wanted for questioning in that road rage biker attack turned himself into custody. police are now questioning him in connection with this road rage attack caught on a helmet camera in new york. so far no charges have been filed. >> reporter: the nypd continues to work aggressively trying to figure out exactly what unfolded on the west side highway sunday afternoon and who was there. on top of viewing evidence like this motorbike and that badly

damaged black range rover, police have identified more than a dozen bikers through paragraphs and video of the scene. according to news 4 sources some are being cooperative and others hired lawyers and wontd talk. police sources say 35-year-old robert simms, the biker who ripped open the door during the chase surrendered to authorities. he might have been part of the brutal fight against the driver alexian lien. this guy was too. >> his soul intention was to diffuse the situation. >> that's high profile attorney gloria allred defending the biker hospitalized and paralyzed. he admitted running over him in a panic. >> we don't think our client should have been run over and crushed and ended up under an suv. >> a passenger in the suv

released a statement thursday saying we believe anyone faced with this sort of grave danger would have taken the same cause of action in order to protect their family. >> nbc news confirmed that an undercover new york city police officer was one of the motorcycle riders. sources tell nbc news he came forward wednesday. that was four days after the attack. >> the message to congress for school children about the government shutdown. plus now a young military veteran turned a bright idea he got at walter reid into a money making venture helping others across the country. >> it's not allowed or favorable to wear white after labor day but it's october. labor day is in the rear-view mirror but near 90 degrees so you have full permission for flip

the shutdown effected a field trip for about 150 eighth graders from first academy in orlando. the sign says we came to d.c. and it was shutdown. the former congressman helped them out with a private tour of the capitol. the trip was planned long before the shutdown. >> meanwhile, the shutdown is also forcing the group called quilt of honor to change venues.

they made quilts of gratitude for men and women. they'll display it at mt. vernon. it will be at the museum for the marine corps. >> reporter: when you think boot camp, this is probably what comes to mind but inside brooks brothers in connecticut boot camp takes on a whole new meaning. 22 men and women from across the country are being outfitted with business attire on day one of the entrepreneurship program for veterans with disabilities. >> they say it's a psychological thing and it's true because i feel like i'm ready to do busy. >> he is epileptic and served in the army more than a decade. he applied after discovering the program at walter reid and hopes it can help him start a commercial cleaning company. >> i think they want to help people with their plan and off

the ground and growing. >> brooks brothers is known for their quality suits and the cost of the program per veteran is about $15,000 a person but that's nothing in comparison to the cost of the sacrifice they made for our country. >> we don't want anything from them. start their new life and get back into society and feel like they're of value. that's important to us. >> the store manager says brooks brothers invests in the program, now in it's 4th year because they want to help these soldiers in rebuilding their identities. something the program manager, a veteran himself, can relate to. >> my life was saved by two marines who dragged me out of the kill zone while i was severely wounded so i feel every year like i'm giving back to veterans. >> so they're turning warriors so entrepreneurs. >> find a new purpose so you can go out and do what it is you want to obtain.

prince harry attended a special ceremony in australia to celebrate the royal australian navy. he sailed past several of sidney most iconic landmarks. he'll board warships from other nations participating there. >> happening today, fun for the whole fall at the fall for fairfax kidsfest. it's taking place this weekend at the fairfax county government center. it lasts through 7:00 tonight and again tomorrow. there will be interactive exhibits and activitieactivitien patch, hayrides, a lot going on. if that wasn't enough to get you out there, chuck bell is going out there. >> what? >> wait. >> and the mystery machine. did you see the mystery machine? >> i did. >> my sister has a big day. so i'm ready. >> we love ruby roo.

>> aka scooby doo. he talks with an r thing. the fall for fairfax and -- >> are you bringing in the cool weather. >> the storm team 4 by 4. >> yes. >> we'll have it out there on display. we'll have all the gadgets turned on for you. i can tell you one thing, it's going to be a warm one outside today. shorts and shirt sleeves on order and don't forget your spf if you're going to be outside even though the sun angle isn't all that high at this time of the year, still enough to be a little pink on your forehead if you're not careful. be careful out there today. here's the way it looks from the city camera view this morning. look at the calm finish on the potomac. that's the reason for the nice clear, cool, wave free start on the river. still waiting on sunrise.

it doesn't come up until 7:00 this evening. the humidity, though, 87%. it feels a lot more like summer than october outside. these temperatures are 10 to 15 degrees warmer than average. mid 60s toward culpepper and bristow. beautiful southern maryland, solomon's island at 66 and 69 in waldorf. not much of a visibility challenge right around town but one mile visibility in culpepper and quarter mile visibility toward stanton. areas of low thick fog primarily across north central virginia toward the blue ridge. a lot of great college football games going on today. penn state on the road at indiana, a 60% chance for rain. game time temperatures would be in the 70s. good luck them taking on the

hoisers. perfect weather in charlotte'svilcharlotte' charlottesville today. good weather around the mid-atlantic. all eyes on tropical storm karen. it's well south of the city of new orleans but the forecast track is going to take it on shore and up into parts of the carolinas over the next 46 to 48 hours. so what happens to all the moisture? by 2:00 tuesday morning the big slug of moisture heading in our direction. we'll be dry today. we'll be dry tomorrow but starting late monday and especially monday night and tuesday, rain could be heavy at times. still have a very slight chance for a shower, especially northern maryland today but that's going to be just about it. morning fog will burn away and leave us with a hot afternoon. upper 80s to near 90. dry weather overnight tonight. nowhere near as cool as it should be by october standards

and another saizzler. for today, partly cloudy. hot again, a spot shower, northern maryland. that's about it. your 7-day forecast is, indeed, a sizzling one for the weekend. 89 today and 88 tomorrow. 70% chance for rain. monday, especially monday afternoon and monday night and an 80% chance of rain for tuesday. some of that could be heavy at times. be ready for our mini drought to end with a flash flooding issue and severe weather say possibility. kentucky, the wild cats are on the road taking on the carolina gamecocks tonight in columbia. 82 at kick off. 75 by games end. no chance for rain. good weather for a gamecocks win and show me your misery is on the road at vanderbilt. hopefully the tigers can take out the commodores. >> now it's going to get tough.

i'm not optimistic on that. >> i like your chances. 24-20 for you. >> you have to believe. >> you're always debbie downer. >> that way then it will be exciting when they win. >> low expectations. >> exactly. >> go gamecocks, on that note. all right. talking in your sleep is one thing but now your cell phone may take things to a whole new level. the medical condition that might explain your nighttime behavior. >> plus, your home, your office, how police are training for violent scenarios that could happen anywhere. you're watching news 4 today. my asthma's under control.

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a new phenomenon is more common with the smartphone. more on why you might want to sleep with that phone in another room. >> some people can't seem to disconnect with the world even when asleep. you heard of sleep walking but what about sleep texting? seriously, it's a real thing. >> i've never heard of that. that's real. >> you text while doing everything else. texting while sleeping sounds believable. >> your brain is asleep but your thumbs pounding away at the phone. >> i have received texts while i have been sleeping and forgot by the time i woke up. >> i have done that before where i'm texting and the next morning

i'll be like i don't remember texting that. >> the doctor, a sleep specialist at the mayo clinic has seen a number of sleep texting cases. >> people have for years done things in their sleep whether it be sleep talking which is common, sleep walking, sleep eating. but if a device is within arms reach and a person has a tendency to have any of the unusual sleep behaviors, especially now they could sleep text or e-mail. >> so we asked the question, wouldn't the screen light on the phone wake you up? >> well, most of the devices aren't actually that bright. in order to be awoken by light it has to be an intensity bright light. >> goes to show there's a medical condition for just about everything and many of us can't get away from our phones. >> it does show the power of technology in today's day and age. that's something you go for subconsciously. >> and that was her reporting. i have actually done this.

>> yeah. >> i don't know how because i can't get a text when i'm awake. get it spelled right and making sense. >> i'm a light sleeper to begin with but i have sent something and somebody will respond and i'll get it the next morning and i have no idea i sent it. they say to have better sleep in general because of the light of the screen to just an hour before bed turn it off. don't even check your desktop. >> you shouldn't text late at night. you're a married woman. >> are you kidding me? >> the changes coming to the navy yard after the mass shooting last month. >> and check out day five. the sticking point that could keep a vote today from moving keep a vote today from moving

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pumpkin is back at dunkin' donuts. hurry in for delicious pumpkin coffees and lattes today. america runs on dunkin'. deadly physical force was not the ultimate recourse and it didn't have to be. >> new this morning, speaking out, we're now hearing from family members of the woman at the center of a chaotic chain of events on capitol hill. what there now asking of d.c. police. >> and the weather alerts, they're out. we're tracking tropical storm karen as it inches closer to the gulf coast and that could impact our own weather in the days ahead. >> but not today. we're getting a plash back to summer. >> good morning you guys. we're off to a mild start this morning. temperatures are already near our average high for this time

of the year. outside, it is 70 degrees at national airport but 63 at du dulles international airport. low 60s into southern maryland. it's a mild start for sure. we have seen one or two sprinkles here afew hours ago. rain chances are really low but not quite zero for today. if you're going to have a chance for a shower, probably northern maryland and areas of thick fog this morning. start off temperatures upper 70s by later this morning and highs, how about 89 degrees? we made 90 yesterday so we'll be within a whisper of it today and more about karen coming up. >> chuck, thank you. for the first time we are hearing from the family of the woman that was shot to death by police after she tried to ram her car into the white house and then sped off toward the capitol. miriam