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next on "meet the press," our focus is on the search for solutions to key crises around the u.s. and the world. the first ever known ebola patient on u.s. soil is now being treated at an atlanta hospital. what's his prognosis? and how is the u.s. government responding? i'll ask the head of the centers for disease control. no end in s to the war in the middle east. strong backi ining for israel f president obama. plus, your government at work, not working. the most do-nothing congress ever heads for vacation. tempers flare on the house floor. will anything get done on the country's most pressing problems?
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>> from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >> let's show you a live shot of emory university hospital in atlanta where kent brantley, walked into the hospital of his own accord with the assistance of another medical worker. he arrived on a specifically equipped plane after contracting the deadly disease while working in liberia. president obama weighed in on friday saying the u.s. is taking the outbreak of the disease, quote, very seriously. our chief medical editor dr. nancy snyderman has the very latest on the crisis and how the u.s. government plans to respond. good morning. >> good morning. the cdc is now issuing an order for 50 people, disease detectives if you will to be deployed to west africa to try to start to get this epidemic, this outbreak of ebola under
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control. but in the meantime, they were also at the epicenter of an extraordinary operation. that required the coordination of the state department, cdc, white house, fbi, the doctors and nurses at emory and even patients on the ground. people on the ground, if you will to get dr. brantley safely from liberia to the united states and admitted to the hoital. it was a military operation that took every precaution. >> well, the disease continues to ravage parts of west africa, the death toll now over 700 and climbing, chances of an ebola outbreak in the united states are slim. but the government says it's ready. >> here are the three main reasons why. >> number one, government on alert. only the cdc can confirm ebola cases in the united states. and they have 20 quarantine stations at all major points of entry to the country staffed with medical and public health
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officers. if a traveler is sick on a flight, that person would be flagged by the flight crew, isolated and passengers and crew may be detained to get medical attention upon landing. if necessary, those with the disease can be denied entry into the united states. number two, our modern health care system. a person can't get ebola without direct contact with bodily fluids of someone who already has the disease. basic hygiene at our emergency rooms should prevent the virus from spreading. number three, command and control. hospitals in west africa have almost become amplification centers for the disease. meaning unmodern facilities and lack of medical supplies can increase rather than halt the disease's spread. the government says there are strong systems in place to find people who are sick, isolate them, and give treatment.
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having a command and control center gives experts a place to centralize decision making and take quick action. >> the real issue right now is to prevent any further kidney or liver damage, to limit any bleeding. and that is the best way to save dr. brantley's life. no news yet on an update from emory. we expect that later today. >> all right. thank you so much for your time this morning. earlier, i spoke with dr. tom freeden, director of centers of disease control. i asked him about the outlook at this point. >> well, it's encouraging. he seems to be improved. ebola can be deadly. but in people who are healthy, the case fatality rate may be lower than the ones we're usually quoting. cause people like this doctor are much healthier going in than the people still getting ebola in africa. >> right. and he was working in western africa in liberia.
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when you look at some of the precautions that are taken, especially outfitted for him to be contained. the medical units on-site from the airport to his transfer to emory and a containment unit at emory. is this an unacceptable risk to bring somebody we bow la back. >> well, first off, we have to say that he was coming home. and the organization that sent him to africa made the decision to bring him home. he's an american citizen. and what our role is in public health is to make sure if an american is coming home with an infectious disease, we protect others so they don't spread it. >> the head of the wofrld health organization has said in the last couple of days the following from dr. margaret chan, this outbreak is moving faster than our efforts to control it. if the situation continues to deterioration, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of
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lost lives but also severe disruption and high risk spread to other countries. what is the u.s. government doing to respond to that need to respond to the potential for its spread? >> it is a very serious condition. and it is currently out of control in africa with a high risk of spreading further in africa. what we're doing now at cdc is surging our response. we're going to put at least 50 health -- public health experts in the three countries in the next 30 days. because actually, we do know how to stop ebola. it's old-fashioned plain and simple public health. find the patients, make sure they get treated, find their contacts, track them, educate peectiontrol in hospitals. you do those things, but you have to do them really well, and ebola goes away. >> people who are looking at the events of the last couple of days are concerned even as the
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center for disease control is mishandling biochemicals and other agents and diseases at your own labs, have to be wondering about the ability of our health care system, the u.s. government, to be able to prevent a spread here particularly with those affected workers, two in total, hole be back in the united states. what can you say to deal with that concern? >> i certainly understand that occurs at cdc. we have lapses in our laboratories. fortunately no one was hurt. nothing was released into the laboratory environment. however -- or out of the laboratory and into the environment. what's so important is if there are patients with possible ebola or confirmed ebola in hospitals, that doctors and the entire health care team are super careful. they have protocols in place and make sure every one of those protocols is followed. ebola is really a formidable
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enemy. your plan and your execution has to be meticulous to avoid its spread. if you don't do that, you can have spread to workers in the health care system or family members. that can happen. you can have some secondary cases if you're not really, really careful. >> already. dr. frieden, we'll certainly send our best wishes to dr. kent brantly and monitor his progress. thanks so much for your time this morning. >> thank you very much. i'm joined now by dr. toby cosgrove, chief executive officer and president of the renowned cleveland clinic. doctor cosgrove, good to have you here. i wanted additional perspective from the hospital sector in the united states. first of all, take me inside what the containment unit is like when you have someone like dr. brantly, how he's protected, the workers are protected and the wider public are protected with these efforts. >> we have to understand how disease spreads. this is spread differently. this is spread by direct contact or bodily fluid contact. inside these containment areas there's negative pressure.
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so any air would go into rather than coming out of that facility. they are protected -- workers are protected by complete covering of their face and all of their body and they are isolated. so this is much like any other infectious disease we deal with. interestingly, this is not as highly contagious as many other diseases. for example, many more people in the united states die from influenza. that requires hand washing, isolation to prevent that. we must remember we're in a global world. >> is it irrational to say oh, my goodness, the wonderful people helping to stop the spread of ebola in africa, they are americans but shouldn't be allowed to come back to the united states because the rick is too high. >> you have to understand we've gone to a globalized world now. just because it's in africa doesn't mean it doesn't affect
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the entire world. transportation, this is something we must learn to deal w i think the cdc has done a wonderful job being able to isolate these patients, having centers that look for people coming into the united states with disease. i think they have done a super job. >> a lot of people think about a visit to the hospital, which is unpleasant. they worry about getting sicker than what they came in for being at the hospital. when you have the introduction of a virus like this, is that a compounded fear and is it real? >> i don't think the fear is real, first of all, because we understand we have the disease. we isolate it, take tremendous precautions with it. i don't think that represents an additional risk. the infections that occur in the hospital are generally important in terms of people not washing their hands and spreading diseases, bacterial diseases that way. not so much diseases, viral diseases like this. >> no known cure for the ebola virus.
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what do you look for for dr. brantly and others who have contracted this disease and who are being cared for now. >> we're looking for supportive care. you may have renal function failure. you may have failure of liver. you may have respiratory failure. all these can be supportive. that's the real care these patients get. better in the united states than any place else in the world. >> and as dr. frieden was saying, younr, healthier, better chance of survival that dr. brantly was walking of his own volition. >> i think it's a terrific sign. the incubation period is between eight and 21 days. people spread the disease most when they are sick, which is a good thing. it looks to me like he is now either in the recovery phase or has been able to handled it. >> if you had been over in the area, in western africa in an outbreak area, when would you show symptoms? >> somewhere eight to ten, 21-day period. people coming back to the united states having temperature measured every day and quarantined until that 21 days passed. >> before i let you go, there's
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a real health threat in your neck of the woods, cleveland and toledo. algae bloom in lake erie making drinking water there toxic. how concerned are you about cleveland and what are you doing to fix it? >> we're concerned about water supply across lake erie and united states. the runoff from fertilizers from the farms has caused the algae to bloom in the lakes. that has gotten worse and worse each year as we've gone along. it's now reached critical proportions in the western portion of lake erie. obviously cleveland is right down the lake from that and we're concerned as well. >> all right. dr. cosgrove, great to have you here on the program. thanks for your time. we're going to take a break and talk about overseas. the brutal fight between israel and hamas. no end in sight as president obama defends the effort of secretary of state john kerry. >> should be a bunch of complaints, second-guessing of, well, it hasn't happened yet,
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nitpicking before he's had a chance to complete his efforts. >> the question this morning, is there any hope of a negotiated solution to the crisis? i will ask diplomats from opposing sides of this conflict coming up next. "meet the press " is brough to you by boeing. [ male announcer ] it's one of the most amazing things we build and it doesn't even fly. we build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrow's innovators. we build it raising roofs, preserving habitats and serving america's veterans. every day, thousands of boeing volunteers help make their communities the best they can be. building something better for all of us. ♪
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we're back with a discussion about the war in the middle east. the conflict between hamas and gaza, cease-fire efforts so far unsuccessful, can a solution be found any time soon. more israeli shelling killed 30 people today. the death toll in gaza now stands at more than 1700 people. israel is withdrawing and redeploying some troops, but prime minister netanyahu says he will keep up the pressure on hamas even after destroying hamas network of tunnels into israel. i'm joined now by the permanent observer of palestine to the united nations. ambassador, welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> first of all, on that point about the redeployment and withdrawal of israeli troops, do you see some opening here to break this impasse, to get to a more durable cease-fire? >> we hope the israeli army would withdraw completely from the gaza strip.
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we have a tragic humanitarian problem in gaza, which you have indicated more than 1700 palestinians, most of them civilians, 80% or more, and more than 9,000 have been injured. 80% of them, according to you and statistics have been injured. what we need now is to stop this fighting, to address the strategic humanitarian situation in the gaza strip. >> let me stop you on that point. your anger at israel certainly understandable. the loss of civilians horrific. there was an agreement about that. i'm wondering whether you're outraged by the conduct of hamas. starting the conflict firing rockets, building tunnels to kill and kidnap israelis, being more than willing to sacrifice palestinian lives by imbedding them into their own kind of arsenal and using them, as israel contends, as human shields. do you have a level of outrage to hamas itself. >> first of all, this concept of
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using palestinian civilians as human shields is not right. it is not correct. it is not even, you know, moral. instead of -- why don't you bring on the show and let the american public, including congress to listen. for example, doctors without borders. >> hold on a second. hold on. my question stands. i'm asking whether you're outraged at the conduct of hamas. >> i am outraged -- >> they fired rock, they built tunnels for the purpose of killing and kidnapping israelis and they do exploit the palestinian civilians when they know they are going to be in danger from where they are firing the rockets and so forth. do you have any outrage towards hamas. >> i am outraged as the killing of innocent civilians by any party from any side. today, another school of honorable united nations was hit in russia. at least 10 civilians were killed and possibly 100 injured.
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these things need to be stopped. my president, president abbas, is doing more than that. he dispatched yesterday a delegation composed of all palestinian political groups to begin the negotiation with israel through the egyptian to have the cease-fire extended more than three days, to have a sustainable cease-fire and begin the discussion on the root causes -- >> ambassador, i'm trying -- >> we are waiting for the israeli side to come -- >> fair enough. fair enough. the rope i'm pressing this point is not to challenge you about how horrific the loss of civilians are. as a more moderate palestinian figure, which is what you are, representative palestinian authority, there's certainly no love lost between palestinian authority and hamas, i'm wondering what level of culpability you believe hamas has for the advancement of the palestinian people. not just in this conflict but more generally.
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>> i believe if we allow for peace to take place, negotiation to take place, under the leadership of mahmoud abbas, who is bringing all political elements in the palestin side, including hamas you said his wing, international consensus government. if we empower this government, we will be able to move gradually from the situation of confrontation and fighting into the situation of this tragedy and blocking it against our people in gaza, giving the people there hope. 50% of the population in gaza are under 18. if you put them in a continuous situation of fighting and resentment and hate, this is an excellent atmosphere for radicalism. but if you give them hope. you open the borders, let them go to schools, let them get good jobs, let them look for moderation, then we'll succeed in allowing all those who want to have peace between us and
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israelis to have the upper hand. >> a lot of people listening would find that compelling, the palestinian authority could provide better leadership than hamas. i want to try more on this. do you think hamas is helping or hurting palestinians right now? >> hamas is part of the palestinian political configuration. the question is how to deal with that. the first step is the national consensus government. israel is trying to destroy this government. to destroy this government is pushing us back and allowing hamas to have support in the gaza strip. the alternative is empower the national consensus government, allow the government of president abbas to show the people in the gaza strip that it succeeded in having peace, stopping the fighting, addressing the wounds of our people in gaza, then in lifting
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the siege in gaza, giving people hope. let the 1.8 million people in gaza see that this national consensus government is improving their lives, then that would be strengthening president mahmoud abbas and allowing us to have more strength in the gaza strip and giving our people an alternative instead of the continuation of fighting, an alternative in that direction of peace. of course we have to put an end to the occupation so that the independent state of palestine to become independent and actualize the dream of two-state solution. >> all right, ambassador, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. polls do show the majority of americans are sympathetic toward israel but yesterday thousands of people protested in support of the palestinians near the white house. the harrowing pictures of palestinian suffering being beamed out of gaza has provoked an outcry and prompted protests across the world. our chief foreign affairs
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correspondent andrea mitchell assesses whether israel may achieve military victory but lose the battle of wider world opinion. >> reporter: as the violence continues, with civilians trapped in the middle, israel's strategy of self-defense is becoming less defensible in world opinion. in berlin pro palestinian marches. in kosovo free gaza signs. demonstrators against israel covering their hands in red paint. this week's cover of "the economist" a warning israel could be winning the battle, losing the war, as images of palestinian suffering are shown around the world, a very real problem for prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> i think you'd have to reach the conclusion that no set of talking points, however compelling they are from israel's point of view, can somehow stand up and match up to those pictures, which is why most of the international community is reacting quite negatively, to say the least, to what's going on in gaza. >> here in the u.s., israel
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still enjoys strong support. our new polling shows 43% of americans sympathize with the israelis in the current conflict, 14% with the palestinians, 43% are unsure. but the generational divide is striking. among americans under 45, support for israel dropped to 33%. among 18 to 29 years old, it's only 27%. the longer this drags on, israel's global risk slipping further asresident obama cautioned friday. >> part of the reason why we've been pushing so hard for a cease-fire is precisely because it's hard to reconcile israel's legitimate need to defend itself with our concern with those civilians. >> right now israelis overwhelmingly support the push into gaza to eliminate tunnels but they don't want a permanent occupation. >> the casualties that would be required to go thousands house and secure gaza would be something no israelis want.
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i think prime minister netanyahu knows that. >> the most surprising difference most arab leaders are rooting for israel to eliminate the threat, which they see as a threat to them as well. andrea mitchell, nbc warrant. nbc news washington. >> i'm joined by the israeli ambassador. >> ambassador, welcome. good to have you here. first the news, is the ground operation in gaza about to end? >> we're finishing up decommissioning the the tunnels. we've uncovered about three dozen tunnels. >> destroying, i guess that he means. >> yes. destroyed tunnel used to burrow underneath, come out on the other side, kidnap people. once we've uncovered these, we're obviously going to destroy them. we hope that job will be completed in a matter of hours not days. >> ground troops will come out. >> we're going to redeploy our forces. >> meaning they will be taken out of gaza.
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>> not necessarily. we'll redeploy to a position where israel can do what it has to do to protect the security of our people. >> what is the state of gaza being demilitarized, having the capacity for hamas to fire off rockets. >> their capacity has been significantly degraded because we've hit a lot of their missile batteries, a lot of their rocket warehouses. they have also fired over 3,000 rockets at our country. they started this operation with over 10,000 rockets, there are probably less than half at this point. the key, david, is to prevent them from rearming in the future. this the third time we've had to have a conflict. first in 2002, second in 2012. now we're in 2014, a year and a half after pillar of defense. what we don't want to see is us simply leaving and allowing hamas to use the time to rearm thousands of rockets, more tunnel. we have to make sure we have an effective mechanism to prevent hamas from rearming and refueling its war mission. >> ambassador mansour just here saying, look, essentially israel is giving space to hamas because
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the population is desperate. it is being hit and attacked, civilians killed. while he would not express outrage towards hamas for starting all this, it's still a reality that hamas is isolated, disliked by most of the arab world and yet this campaign la has given them newfound political energy and support. >> i don't think so. i think they are more isolated. >> within gaza? they are casting off the government. >> five palestinians were executed a few days ago. i don't know if you know that. they tried to protest against hamas of it's not a free society in gaza. you can't come out and say you're against hamas, they shoot you. very telling an official would not actually defend hamas. his problem is he has to go back to ramallah, president abbas is in an alliance. let's remember what hamas is. this is like al qaeda, a terror organization, committed to our destruction.
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this an organization whose officials were celebrating on 9/11 when thousands of americans were killed, whose prime minister right now underneath in some tunnel in gaza, he actually condemned the united states for killing osama bin laden. that's who we're dealing with. >> what is the solution here? you don't have a delegation gointo egypt to engage in talks. what's the point? is there really a military solution to this? if you look at andrea mitchell and the larger question, well acquainted as i am obviously with israel's arguments about security, are you paying a price here that ultimately endangers israel's security in the future, enflames not just international opinion against israel but certainly within gaza and the arab world to a point where you're losing the larger war even if you achieve some military objectives right now? >> no, i don't think so. you have to fight terror. you can't embrace terrorists. that's unfortunately what president abbas has done. take the case of iraq. do you think the solution of iraq is to have iraqi government
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include isis as part of the government because that's what the palestinian government just did. they did it two months ago. we were very much opposed to it and upset when international community said, hey, this is a good thing for peace. it's a terrible thing for peace. the road for peace goes over hamas not through hamas. >> is there a military solution to hamas problem? >> yes. israel right now is working hard to degrade their capability. >> degrade. can you eliminate? >> you can. there is a cost. >> is israel willing to pay it. >> israel has many threats. this is not a threat israel faces. we live in a very unstable region. >> if you want palestinian authority, abbas, to have a greater political say what happens in gaza, how do you do that, militarily. >> hamas is the one who threw them out. the palestinian official who sat here forgot to mention in 2007 there was a coup in gaza. palestinian officials were thrown out over the tops of buildings, they shot palestinian officials. now unfortunately they are in an alliance with terror organization, i hope not genocide.
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hamas calls for murders of jews worldwide. i hope after this round of fighting is over, that president abbas will abandon the pact he made to hamas and go back to peace negotiations. >> the number of civilian deaths by israel in gaza unacceptable to israel? >> well, every civilian death is unacceptable to israel. we have an enemy that fires indiscriminately but hides by their own civilians, using hospitals, schools, mosques. they want civilian deaths. hamas doesn't care about the civilian population in gaza. we left gaza in 2005. we with drew all of our settlers, all of our military and said, hey, make a better future for gaza. people were hoping at the time they were going to make a singapore of gaza, middle east, instead they built an iran in the middle east. used all this concrete to build a subterranean force in gaza, iron not to build schools but rockets to fire at israel.
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>> thank you very ch nor we'll be monitoring the situation. when we come back here we'll talk politics. a big week here, all this impeachment talk. why do some democrats think it's helping the party. immigration fiasco, what impact of congress getting nothing done will have on republicans and this issue. our roundtable will be here to discuss a pretty dramatic week in politics. e on e on republicans and this issue. republicans and this issue. if energy could come from anything?. or if power could go anywhere? or if light could seek out the dark? what would happen if that happens? anything. over 20 million kids everyday in oulack access to healthy food.
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♪ during the cadillac summer's best event, lease this 2014 ats for around $299 a month and make this the summer of style. we are back with our roundtable. first, how angry are americans at washington, shall we count the ways? our political director chuck todd has some exclusive new poll numbers. >> more bad news for a congress already blistered by a bad reputation. new polling from nbc news, "wall street journal," that we're revealing exclusively today three out of four voters agree that congress hasn't done much this year. this includes 50% who say they
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have been very unproductive. guess what, they are right. this congress with republicans in charge of the house and democrats in charge of the senate is on track to be the least productive in history. 142 bills passed into law so far. that's fewer than even the last congress at this same point, and they had set a record for inaction themselves. it's a lot less productive than the most famous do nothing congress of all time, the one harry truman ran against in 1948. >> the country can't afford another republican congress. >> that do nothing congress actually pushed through more than 900 bills into law. so what does it mean for the midterms this year? americans are divided who should control congress. our polling shows in both the house and the senate there's a virtual tie over which party they want in charge, with republicans holding a slight edge. but democrats are starting to feel like they have something to run on or run against thanks to house republicans and their own
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struggles to pass small bills, like one to deal with the emergency at the border. >> that's not a disagreement between me and the house republicans, that's a disagreement between the house republicans and the house republicans. >> reporter: now a sprint in november with both parties pointing the finger at each other for dysfunction which on itself was on full display with house voted to impeach the president, senators not showing up to do their job, an ambassador to russia. the house leaving unable to address a slew of major issues. >> roundtable here carolyn ryan washington bureau chief, editor of "times." also republican strategist advised senior figures like mitt romney and jeb bush. a new face to the program, republican pollster, co-finder of echelon research and democratic congressman keith
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welcome. good to have you here. politics is easier to figure out than the middle east in it's way. the republicans will come back in the fall and ask america to allow them to govern. are they in a position to govern? >> i think we are and i think we'll do well at the elections. the question is we're not going to win enough in the elections to govern. we'll still have a democrat in the white house. the next two years for the republican party, assuming we have a senate which we have a good but not certain chance to will be a test. do we use the party to do something and get things done or continue to pound away in a campaign mentality? >> what is the mentality, wall street lashing fellow republicans for basically botching this immigration debate by giving the president something of a victory and being so hopelessly divided within itself. ted cruz lobbying for house members to oppose the speaker's bill.
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>> i think what we have created is a timid and often craven political culture in washington. i think the one thing we haven't captured is the degree to which money is driving that. i think that republicans are fearful are primary opponents, so they don't want to move toward the middle. if they move toward the extreme, those primary opponents can access big money. you probably saw our story. there's going to be $2 billion in outside spending on the congressional elections. so they are changing the culture and turning off the voters and sort of driving a divide between members of congress and the people they serve. >> how do you -- you can't feel good about the way this week ended. >> no, i don't feel good about it at all. mindful 3.5 million people have not had unemployed extended. people are in bad shape. we haven't done anything about the minimum wage. this mess with the immigration, we're just not moving forward on the things people need to cooperate on. but the president i think is
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trying. he just this week signed an executive order to help workers get all of the money they earned by coming down on companies that do wage stuff federal contract be. earlr this year raised the minimum wage for people whwork for federal contractors. the president is going out of his way to be productive. i wish we could get action in the house. >> we're probably going to see the president take action on immigration. what that means, we'll see. he has some power to create a legal framework or path for some of the undocumented children coming across, those who are in the process or those who may be here. republicans certainly aren't going to like that. >> no, they are not. what we've actually seen, even folks very frustrated with congress, they don't necessarily mean that's time for the president to become the king. only about 22% of americans think they don't think the president has taken enough executive action in the face of a congress who hasn't
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accomplished much while 45% said they think the president has gone too far with executive action. on the border issue, republicans actually gained a little advantage when you ask voters which party do they trust more on this issue. to the extent the president takes action beyond the scope of what his office allows, i don't think this is a bad thing for republicans politically. >> this is one of these great conundrums. short-term, this is going to help us win races we're going to win anyway. long-term, looking at 2016 when the senate is bad not good for republicans, we like to hold any majority we win and the presidential race is a headwind demographically than ever, we're playing with nitroglycerin. this is dangerous stuff. >> not just in washington but around the world, the president
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spoke with reporters on friday. he was asked by bill plante at cbs news about his efforts to try to use influence. he was asked whether america has lost its influence, whether he's lost his influence. here is a bit of that back and forth. >> people have forgotten that america as the most powerful country on earth still does not control everything around the world. >> do you think you could have done more? >> on which one? >> on any of them? >> well, look, you know, i think, bill that the nature of being president is that you're always asking yourself what more can you do. >> some would see that and say this is the reality of america in the world today, or maybe it's the reality of president obama's leadership that he doesn't have a big play here to make. >> exactly. there are two points here, right? every american election is a reaction to the last
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disorder. the biggest thing with the administration their passivity and lack of clear path. we kind of had deflation in the currency of american power influence and will power, and we're paying the price for it. >> i called nine against to one for when this whole syrian crisis came up. the president, i think, was trying to stop assad because he will not stop until he is stop. yet my constituents, i guarantee you, were not in favor of us doing anything in syria. >> it's not just the policy outcomes. it was the herky jerky nature of how it unfolded. >> it's a herky jerky environment. >> you're not suggesting the calls under the circumstances influence your leadership. you have to make the decision -- >> you have to listen to what your constituents want. i was supporting the president because i believe assad is a real problem. >> this line, you cannot cross this line ofbecaus north
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dakota. welcome to you both. >> good to be with you. >> there were votes in the house to sue president obama, yet neither house or senate could pass a bill on immigration that could deal with the border crisis at the moment. does this undermine the ability for republicans to say vote for us in the fall, we should control the senate and the house and really be a governing party? >> well, david, the house did pass a border security bill before they went out. the senate has not. you mentioned earlier people's frustration. i can understand that. wages are flat, unemployment is high. everything from gas to food to health care costs more for the american people. you can't address that situation if you don't vote. the united states senate we went an entire year passed less than one vote on republican amendment per month. in the harry reid senate that's become the norma factory for show boats. votes are made more ies republicans and democrats allot
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send brought, pathway to legalization, economics, even economic bunl office said would create jobs, lower deficit and help national economy. republicans in the house just can't seem to get there. >> i'm going to leave it there. my thanks to senator menendez >> i'm going to leave it there. my thanks to senator menendez and

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