work hard to do their best work. >> how concerned are you, and this has been expressed by a number of people, if there is not a decision to bring charges in this case, charges not brought, there will be more unrest. are you prepared for that? give usa sense of your level of concern? >> well, as i said before, we've been working hard over the last two weeks, but especially last eight or nine days, to really see progress. and i'm heartened by that. that's really come from the people here. the policing strategies and all that sort of stuff is important. captain johnson, teams on the ground, have done a good job. really what happened people of this region said we want to speak but we want to do so peacefully. i think that transition is a positive transition. they just want to make sure what has happened over the last two weeks is not swept under the rug and forgotten, and that instead it's used for positive action not only around community of ferguson and st. louis but around the country. >> let me ask you what you say not just to people in missouri but people around the country.

six in ten blacks in a new poll say that they don't believe that they have confidence that the investigation will be handled fairly. what do you say to them? >> first of all, i think with a lot of attention on it and focus on it and dual efforts going on at the same time, one federal, state, public attention, i think they have a chance to get it right. a justice system with that much focus, these folks need to do their duty. that includes prosecutors and jury members and grand jury members and everyone and citizens who have things to say that can be helpful in those cases. so we have to work hard to make sure that everybody does their best and is strong in this effort. if they do, then it's our best hope that justice will be served. >> governor jay nixon, thank you. >> thank you. >> then the question becomes what does it mean to do your best, mr. mayor. what do you do going forward and starting with how do you make this a fair investigation?

>> i think the thing you do is to start seeing this case through the eyes of a mother and father who lost a child who got shot six times and left for four hours in the street. that's really the issue right now. we're laying all of our feelings about race and class and all of the rest and it's really moving away from the dignity that should have been shown to a mother and father whose child got killed. to the extent we can start handling this case through that lens, ferguson is going to be better off and so is the united states of america. we need to stop layering our issues on what has happened there and make sure justice is handled equitably for this mom and this dad who lost their son in the street because he was killed and shot six times with four witnesses. so we have an obligation, and i think the attorney general's visit there was vital, to ensure transparency to all of the people of ferguson. but most important to this mom and this dad, to make sure that

this prosecutor is going to use all of the resources available to make sure this is done in a transparent fashion. we also need federal oversight to move simultaneously so that in the event we have an adverse decision, there certainly is another path to seeing that justice is done here. >> certainly the reaction in the community and the interviews that we heard, the fact that the attorney general went there, what he had to say, his own personal experience that he shared about being a young black man and being stopped helped to calm the fears. there is a question out there, gwyn, about whether the president should do more, questions raised about the tone of the remarks he made. what do you think is the president's role in all this? >> i think we get caught up in -- the mayor used the term layering, a layering on issues. in washington we're used to layering on government and process, what happens next before the grand jury and what

happens next with the trial. we like to cover it like a soap opera. but there's something else that's been exposed here, which no president new york city attorney general can get to. there's this bruise we keep poking out in this country about race. we don't know how to deal with it unless there's a flair-up. what we've seen again and again, you can list the names. also what's important is what's happening behind it. there's a new civil rights group that sprung up. we've been looking at 50 year signings of bills and laws. these young people on the street, young people who created a social media movement around michael brown, they aren't saying pass a law, they are saying enforce current ones. they aren't saying we're going to wait for a single singular leader telling us which way to go, we're going to lead ourselves. something we can't miss, feels different to me than trayvon martin, different than rodney king, these are all situations

where justice was questioned. it feels like mers, not just african-americans are picking themselves up and saying first pictures we saw out of ferguson, first common response was, is that america? people are saying, let's address that, not expect one person to figure it out. >> we did have this sense, though, that the president in coming to the microphone and being such a great communicator might be able to move the needle. i want to read to you what was written about this by ezra klein. do we have that there? the problem is the white house no longer believes obama can bridge divides. they believe, with good reason, that he widens them. president obama's speeches polarize in a way candidate obama didn't. obama supporters often want to see their president leading but the white house knows when obama leads his critics become even less likely to follow. what does he do going forward? >> i have to disagree a little bit. i think the president's tone has

been very presidential in this. this is a case where the facts are not established. we're still looking at what the facts are. there are limits to what a president can do in a circumstance like that. i think the president has shown appropriate grief, has shown some outrage. but this is difficult for him. it was right for him to send eric holder, the guy that can bring the fbi, that can bring the forces of the federal government to this to send him to that circumstance. i disagree. i think he should at the right moment give a framing speech on this set of issues which he's good at. i think his restraint here was pretty admirable. >> thank you all. coming up, more with our roundtable. defense secretary chuck hagel certainly wasn't holding back about the threat posed by isis. >> this is beyond anything that we've seen. we must prepare for everything. we've seen. we must[ female announcer ]ing. hands were made for talking.

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welcome back. i want to talk more about the threat posed by isis with our roundtable. let me read what vice president biden wrote in the "washington post" in an op-ed. there is no negotiating with isil. we have seen its appalling murders of u.s. journalist james foley and countless other innocent people, its cruelty and its fanaticism. that was followed up by chuck hagel saying this is more than just a terrorist group. is he right? >> they are a terrorist group

that now controls about a third of iraq. it's a particular potent, well organized, mobile ambitious terrorist group. president obama has been trying to walk a very fine line between a gradual escalating response to isis and reassuring a country that is weary of war, especially in iraq, that he's not going to take american troops back. so far i think he's basically gotten that about right. we are stepping up to protect the kurds to stop the master of the yazidi minority, take isis control away from big dam -- >> brutality we saw in the video, does that escalate the pressure on him? >> it escalates the tightrope, tightens the tightrope. i n't know how he does this. on the one hand we saw intelligence chairman saying we have the capability, we just don't have the will or the policy. on the other hand you don't have -- i haven't heard anybody

saying what we ought to be dogins. they are hinting we're going inside syria but to what end. what is the goal? that is a very complicated situation right now. i don't know there's an easy answer, which is why we're all teetering. >> of course in the meantime he's taking hits, so is david cameron. you can take a look at the covers of the daily mirror yesterday and the daily news on thursday criticizing these two leaders for going out in the case of the president golfing and david cameron out on the water. i guess the question is raised whether we're sending the wrong message, maybe even to europe, maybe to the middle east with this. even if most people who live in britain and united states, they have a hard job, they should take a break. >> having worked for a president, i don't criticize presidential vacations. they need this. as a turtle, they carry it with them. i think that's true. symbolism does matter. the juxtaposition of beheading

and golfing is not a good symbol. that is what he's being criticized for. i think that shows the staff or president doesn't really care? >> i don't think it's that. we have a problem in europe and united states that's going to have to be addressed. it has to be addressed now. i think certainly willing to do what is required but we have to have congress come along and we have to have the parliament in the uk come along. the last time we were in a position where we were going to have to be more muscular, candidly, we did not have that kind of support. so it's not just the president. the country has to be ready to deal with isil. the country has to be ready to do what is required. the attorney general and secretary of defense has said that the kind of threats that isil is presenting are unprecedented. so no one can say they are not focused on it or having conversations about it but a war weary nation is going to have to

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welcome back. as we look ahead to the coming week in ferguson, missouri, the

funeral of michael brown will take place tomorrow. reverend al sharpton, civil rights leader and host of msnbc's "politics nation" will give the eulogy. he joins me. welcome. >> thank you. >> there has been a dra shift, move for calmer, much better now. what can you say to help that along? >> i think what we can say is we must turn this moment into a movement to deal with the underlying issue that police accountability and what is and is not allowable by police and what citizens ought to be moving toward. i think we need to deal with how we move towards solutions, how we deal with the whole aggressive policing of what is considered low level crimes. that goes from ferguson to staten island, new york, l.a. we see this occurring all over the country, and i think we need to move in that way. otherwise we will end up only

repeating ourselves. >> you and i talked a lot, reverend, after the verdict in the trayvon martin case. you say that needs to be a moment. many others said the same thing. we have also seen, as you alluded to, you led a march yesterday after another black man died in an incident involving police in new york city. new you're going to be giving the eulogy for yet another funeral tomorrow. what is it going to take for that moment to change things really. >> i think it's going to take legislation. our demonstrations must lead to legislation. we need federal legislation and we need the criminal justice system, which is why the federal government coming in is so important. attorney general eric holder's unprecedented trip sent a signal. we didn't see bobby kennedy go to the south in civil rights area. we saw a sitting attorney general go to ferguson and i think that's historic. i think these moves will lead to real change.

our chance must lead to change, our demonstration for legislation. we'll get up there. you must remember the montgomery bus boycott started in 1955. we didn't get civil rights legislation until '64. change takes time. but those of us that are committed are willing to put in the time because we cannot tolerate not having the change. >> there's a big article on u.s. magazine this week, talks about how close your contact with the white house is. how you often serve as kind of a surrogate for the white house. let me ask you about the president and in the case of ferguson in particular, racial relations in america in general. is he doing enough? >> first of all, i am not a sir gatt. i have access to the white house in every era going back to lincoln, frederick douglass talks with those leading at the time. not comparing but that's nothing unusual. i went to ferguson because the family, the grandfather asked me to come. the white house called while i

was there, talked to me and others. not a surrogate. it is a customary traditional role. i think the president, by addressing it twice while on vacation, not a statement but coming out live, and yet not compromising the right of the family. because where i was nervous because i've been in this a while. i'm not a studio activist or someone in an ivory tower, i've been in there. for the president to go further, then it would be used in a legal context to say the president ordered the indictment, rather than let the process go fairly with the president governing and saying we've got to deal -- i'm reading this morning saying we've got to deal with military equipment and expenditures on citizens. we in terms of those that are talking to the family and lawyers involve these cases don't need the president to politicize it and give an escape from the criminal justice system

from those that need to be investigated and possibly brought into the criminal justice system. a lot of people talking are not talking to the victims who don't need their rights violated by politics. >> we have just a few seconds left, reverend. what would be justice in this case? >> justice is a fair and impartial investigation. let the facts go where they need to go. too often with local prosecutors we don't get that. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> that's all for today. we'll be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the we'll be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com i get my strength from my mother. she was my very best friend. i called my mom, and she didn't answer. i pretty much knew in my heart

that something was wrong. >> a mother vanished. >> i cried myself to sleep. it was just awful realizing that your worst nightmare had come true. >> a family anguished. >> she's gone. do you have any idea how hard that was? >> now the questions begin. in a southern, gothic mystery. >> the case is puzzling. >> we didn't really know what had happened. >> who would ever have imagined you'd have a murder in your family? >> soon, there'd be secrets. >> we were dealing with a person that was leading a double life. >> and one of them would prove deadly. >> have you ever said i know that you did this? >> it hurts too much for me to say it out loud. >> keith morrison, with secrets in a small town. good evening, and welcome to dateline. i'm lester holt. her life ended in mystery on a

dead end road, a mother of three who'd gone missing. for police, the investigation seemed to hit a dead end too. but they had promised this family they would never quit. then, a small town story led to a very big break, and to a suspect that surprised just about everyone. here's keith morrison. suppose for a minute you were sitting in your car, smack-dab in the middle of tuscaloosa, alabama, and you kept an eye down highway 69 and kept a close eye. you rolled into a town called moundville. been around for a long time, has moundville. but it's a sad truth as the sheriff says, even here, where everybody used to know everybody, it's not that way anymore. >> so many different people are moving in from around the world

and -- >> trying to escape the crowds. >> escape the crowd or running from something. >> oh, yes, where you have gone, andy griffith, mayberry has apparently up and left us. the sheriff fights real crime nowadays. >> the crime you see here is the same crime you would see in any city, just a smaller version. >> neighbors tend to know more of each other's business than they might in tuscaloosa, for example. which can be a bit of a nuisance, as you're about to see, if you need to keep a secret, especially, for example, if your secret is about murder. to begin with, this thoughtful young woman was just a girl of 17 back in '07 when it things started coming apart in the way things do when parents don't talk about it. kelsey mayfield saw that troubled look in her home's

eyes, her mother teresa. >> i could tell she was just very stressed. >> everclear to you what she was stressed about? >> money would be the main thing. she just wanted to make sure she had enough money to take care of her family. >> kelsey's dad had to work two job, neither of which paid very well, just to keep his head above water. >> very hardworking man. it took two jobs to take care of our family. >> but money trouble aside, teresa seemed to have a happy life as anybody could see, including teresa's mother, reba. >> all teresa wanted was to have a husband that cared for her, somebody she cared for that could have a family. >> and it was sweet and kind of corny, and even after kelsey's two little brothers arrived, she could see the signs of her parents' affection for one another. >> every night before he got .eady to go to work he would and this much was perfectly

clear. it wasn't an accident. coming up, the investigation begins. >> we had to ask ourselves, who would get her to this location, and why was she murdered? >> when secrets in a small town continues. could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know the great wall of china wasn't always so great? hmmm...what should we do? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. nothing will keep you from magnum. made with silky vanilla bean ice cream, rich caramel sauce and belgian chocolate.

marriage? christian marriage? >> yes. i asked him did they argue. he said no. >> scott answered all of their questions about what teresa was supposed to be doing that morning. he said he phoned her from a job on the farm, a wake up call. then about two hours later she called him but the call faded out. he couldn't hear a thing. >> he said it sounded like she was on the road. >> was it a distress call? no way to now. but there was one thing that call certainly cleared up for investigators. scott could not have killed teresa. he was something like 30 miles away, up near tuscaloosa, had a breakfast receipt to prove it. >> he stopped at hardee's and had a receipt to show he was there. >> so his family was caught up in the terrible business of grieving. >> i kept wondering why was it happening to our family? >> it was awful. who would ever imagine you would correct.

>> a love triangle? jealous home wrecker kills wife, claims husband? no. not even close. scott's girlfriend thought his marriage was over, his divorce finalized. >> what was her reaction to getting the real story? she must have been upset? >> more hurt, probably than upset, because i think she'd fallen in love with him. >> he'd been lying like a sidewalk. >> that's right. >> and you had no idea that woman was associated with him that way either, did you? >> i had met her once or twice, but i just thought they were friends. i didn't think it was anything else. >> this was betrayal in all capital letters. >> that's a very good word. >> you are betrayed. >> lied to. yeah. taken advantage of in a way. >> kelsey may have been surprised, but teresa's mom and sister, they knew better, surprised, but teresa's mom and sister, they knew better, because this wt

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