scheduled to be partners, but then-- -but when josephine first met me, she was like-- she went to her friend and said, you've got to put me with him. -do you believe him? i don't. -that's how it was. and so-- and that's how we started dating, thugh a wedding. and then-- -the rest is history. -the rest is-- yeah. we dated for about a year, got engaged, got married a year later. and we have two children-- two daughters. jacquelyn, 28, jenna, 25. well, to be. josephine: both of them to be. -sorry, i-- gee, i'll get in trouble for that. they're 27 and 24. -our mom is a elementary school teacher right here in floral park. it's actually just down the block. it's actually the elementary school that jenna and i went to. she lights up when she's around children. she has so much fun doing it that, you know, it'd definitely what inspired both of us to choose the same career. yeah. -totally a family-- family career line. -it must be genetic. -i was probably about 33 or 34 years old,

and a friend of mine, karen-- we used to walk like three or four miles every morning-- you know, for physical fitness. we started noticing it about the fourth-- third or fourth mile, that my leg used to start to make like a funny sound when it landed. you know, i really just thought it was a problem with my knee. so finally, one day, we were like, i need to go to the doctor and see what this is all about. and then, when i went there, he did a very quick evaluation, and determined that it really wasn't anything physical, that it must be something neurological. and i always tell people, you know, any random tuesday in your life, your life could change, because it happened to have been a tuesday. -our mom has multiple sclerosis, which is an autoimmune disease. currently it impacts her ability to walk. it started with flare-ups every now and then, and it's progressed to her walking a little bit slower, to needing a cane for walking, and now she's in a wheelchair for most of her mobility. -realizing that i had to go into a wheelchair was hard.

i just felt that every life gets touched by a little something that's sad, and it's what we do with it that makes us strong. you know, we just have to pick up and survive, and be the role models to the younger generation that we need to be. -i love her. i mean, you know, you don't want to see this happen to anybody. so to have it happen to someone this close is-- it's-- it's-- you know, it's hard. it's troubling. but she's such a positive person that that's made it easier for me, because the way she accepts it and deals with it makes me like, well, if she can be so at ease with it, well, how can i-- how can i not? so our morning routine pretty much starts around 5 o'clock. we get up, we-- i help her up the steps,

or i'll be behind her as she goes up the steps. while she's getting dressed, i usually come downstairs. i'll make breakfast and lunch for us. then we pack up her bags for school. we pretty much set up. we sit, we have breakfast together. whatever she needs done-- she likes to boss me-- -it's pretty unbelieveable, right? -she likes to boss me around in school. i need this desk moved, i need that desk moved. hand out these papers, hand out those papers. josephine: yeah, the morning in school is sometimes bad. -the morning in school is crazy. sometimes she forgets i'm her husband-- thinks i'm her employee. -right now, the problem is that we don't have any handicap accessible exits to our home. each exit-- we have a front door and a back door. they both have three or four steps that my mom and my dad have to go up and down every day to go to work or out. so we don't have any way for her to get in in her wheelchair. -if there was an emergency, i-- it would be-- i

would hope that some of us were home to help. if she were here alone, i'm not quite sure, um, what would happen, which is really scary. -to be honest if there was an emergency in the house, we don't have a great plan. it's-- that's really something we haven't thought about. but thanks for bringing it up. now i will think about it. -my mom's a fan of the show. it was always kind of like in the back of our minds, like, it would be cool if we wrote in. realistically, i mean, we could put in like a ramp, but she would hate that, and that would, like, really kill her to know that the house didn't look nice, because she takes so much pride in the appearance of our home. so we knew that george would do an amazing job of making it handicapped accessible but also still keep it looking nice. -i'm sure my daughters would say, please come to the rescue of my mom.

and i'm sure my husband would say, please come to the rescue of my wife. but i have a different take on it. i say, please come to their rescue, because i had no idea that they worried so much. while you may be thinking you're rescuing me, i feel that you're rescuing the whole family. -good morning, mrs. klein. -how-- -how are you? -oh my god! george, i can't believe this! this is un-- oh my god! -what's up, mr. klein. well, if you know who i am, you know what i'm all about, and i'm here to rescue you. -george, thank you so much! thank you! -while we're doing the rescue, i want it to be a total surprise,

so we're going to put you up at the garden city hotel. they're going to take care of everything for you and the family. and, uh, we're going to be in your backyard making it unbelievable. -this is like-- i can't even tell you. i'm so touched, i'm speechless. just relief, because in the past year, i would say it's really started to get a little tough. so it was complete relief-- such happiness for me that my girls and my husband don't have to worry about this too much anymore. so it's a thrill. [music playing] -so helping us out on this rescue, we have our general contractor, vinny muldoon, and our landscape architect, daniel greller. guys, welcome to the klein's backyard. the real issue is that josephine has ms, and she's spending more and more time in a wheelchair. and this stoop right here-- there's no wheelchair accessibility, so she can't get in or out of the house safely or independently.

so if there's not somebody in the house with her, she's stuck. and also, she loves spending time outside, and i would love to turn this into some kind of beautiful oasis for her. so obviously, functionality first, and then just a beautiful place to spend some time secondly. -sure. well, right off the bat, i notice it's a very small backyard. there are challenges when it comes to a small space, and clearly we want to have a patio-- something that she can wheel herself to and enjoy the space. but we have circulation issues. we've got to access the driveway. we have to access the side of the house, and we need to get her in and out of the house safely. -i think the yard's got great potential. it's not that big, but if we can get the right set up with the stoop, you know, great access from the interior of the home out to here, beautiful patio, nice-- maybe a water feature. this white fence, i think, needs to go away and be painted or camouflaged. some lovely landscaping, you know, and just really tie it

in to the beautiful brick work on the old home, and make it look like it's always been here. beautiful place to hang out with her family and really change her life in a very positive way. -the one thing we're still dealing with is how are we going to get her in and out of the house? [music playing] announcer: "george to the rescue" is sponsored in part 3m, makers of scotchblue painter's tape, the number one brand of painter's tape.

is, how are we going to get her in and out of the house? -i think the only way we can do this is do it with a lift. the-- bruno lift system-- they make a fantastic lift. they do it for residential and for commercial. it does everything we need it to do, and it doesn't take up any of the backyard. -i think that's the solution. -all right, we gotta plan. we gotta lift. let's get to work. -let's do it. [music playing] -all right, guys, i want to make sure everyone is safe. safety first.

so i got 3m sunglasses you. -thanks, george. -i've got respirators. and because we're going to be working outside, i also got sunscreen here. all right, let's be safe. let's have ourselves a good rescue. vinny muldoon: there you go. [music playing] -let's, uh, break this thing apart. -let's see how strong we are here. let's go. -a good push-- ready, steady, go. here we go. argh! -there you go. vinny muldoon: right here. let's go. let's knock this baby apart. let's go. there you go. demolition is fun for the first, like, six swings. [music playing] george: how deep do we have to go for a dry well? -uh, at least, uh, six or seven feet deep.

-the reason you have a dry well is it catches the water comes off the house and into the yard and doesn't allow your yard to overflow or, in this case, the patio to flood. because we are going to be covering the majority of this yard with a patio, we can't have, on days when it's heavy rain, it becoming a swimming pool. thus, you need to divert the water, and you divert the water to a dry well. -oh, we've got a big rock right here. rudy hone: it is big. -boy, this is definitely man made. somebody has dug in this backyard before. [knocking] what is this thing?

-oh, we've got a big rock right here. rudy hone: it is big. -what is this thing? there's an edge right here. two men. this is a two-man job. oh!

this right here is construction gold, especially when you're doing an outdoor project. we have just discovered what must've been the original dry well. so should we just try to connect whatever our drainage is right in to this, right? rudy hone: that's it. that's all we have to do. -we should definitely put some sort of tape around this. we don't want anyone falling in here. we don't want the boy in the well scenario. it'd probably be me, anyways. [music playing] all right, now that we've dug everything out, it's time to lay the cement and turn this backyard into a beautiful patio. all the way in? -right in there. all the way in. yeah, dump it right in there. -all right. -this concrete here-- 4,000 psi, fantastic strength, commercial concrete out of westbury supplies. it's where we get all of our concrete. it's really, really strong stuff. god help the poor guy who's got to ever take this back out, because this is here for 100 years. [music playing]

-so boys and girls, this is an exciting day for us. who can tell me what's going on at mrs. klein's house these days? amanda? -they're fixing it up. josephine: there you go. they're fixing up my backyard. what do you think they're making? student: um, a ramp. josephine: a ramp to make it easy for mrs. klein to get outside. and someone has to be in charge of the project, right? it can't be mr. klein. it can't be me. so who do you think is going to be in charge, christian? george. this guy, george, is going to be in charge. so how about we get ready to meet george now. ok? let's give him a big round of applause when he comes in. [applause] josephine: yay, george! george: yay! -so happy to see you, george. -good to see you, mrs. klein. how's it going, everybody? students: good. -so, uh, i don't know what mrs. klein's told you, but i got, uh-- i got two bags of pots here, so i thought it would be amazing if you guys could help me give back to mrs. klein.

and so i have a pot for each one of you guys, which i want you guys to decorate, and then we are going to put them at mrs. klein's house when it's all said and done. -george did an outstanding job leading the activity. when you look at these pots, you'll see that the child expressed themselves, and with lots of encouragement from george, made it so special. so they really enjoyed seeing george and having him be part of the process. -it was a lot of fun. it's always so rewarding to get to a, see the family members that we're rescuing, but b, to just be in a classroom, and be with the kids, and the energy, and creating something. i wish you could bottle this, because it's amazing. goodbye. who's ready for lunch? students: me! -popcorn chicken! [cheering] [music playing] announcer: "george to the rescue"

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-it's a busy day on the rescue. we have all sons electric powering up the backyard. delucia is taking care of our plumbing. we have timeless carpentry putting in our window and our doors, and we have lag posillico taking care of our masonry. there you are. [music playing] -so, daniel, i see we have all of our plants, all of our flowers here from martin viette. what, uh-- what is all this stuff? -well, this is a boxwood here. we've got a good mix of evergreens and deciduous plants to create garden structure and to create some seasonal interest. -now this truck -- look at this it's packed full. is that all for us? -it's packed, but we're going to find a place and a home for every single one of these. [music playing]

-you know, john, up until now, everything we've been doing in this backyard is to turn it into a beautiful oasis for mrs. klein, but this might be the prettiest thing i've seen yet. -yeah, george, this is a vertical platform lift from bruno independent living aids. this device will allow her to go up and down from the pavement over here on the patio to her stoop and in and out of her house independently. -how heavy is this thing? -900 pounds. -one, two, three, four-- so that's like a little less than 200 pounds a person? -yeah. -might have to call vinny, and get him over here. -we got some pipes. maybe get some pipes and roll it across them. -oh, i thought you were talking about these pipes. -ahh. -you're talking about-- -besides those pipes. - --different pipes. -yes. [music playing] students: hey, george. -hey, guys. what's up? -we want to help mrs. klein, so what can we do? -well, actually, i know exactly what you guys can help me do. all those pots you guys designed and painted in class--

i still have them i've got to fill them with flowers. i could use your hands. what do you guys say? students: yeah. -awesome. -you guys want to help me plant some flowers? students: yeah. -all right, guys. these flowers are looking beautiful. i think we are ready for a reveal! what do say? should we go and get mrs. klein? students: yeah! [music playing] -welcome home, guys. all: hey, george. -so good to see you. -how are you? so good to see you. -aw, so good to see you guys. -we're so excited. -well, are guys ready to see what we've done? kevin: we are. josephine: yes, we are. -all right. follow me. three, two, one, turn around. take it all in. jacqueline: oh my goodness! kevin: oh wow. holy cow. josephine: oh my god! jenna: it's totally different. josephine: oh my goodness!

-welcome home, guys. all: hey, george. -so good to see you. -how are you? so good to see you. -aw, so good to see you guys. -were so excited. -well, are you guys ready to see what we've done? kevin: we are. josephine: yes, we are. -all right. follow me. three, two, one, turn around. take it all in. jacqueline: oh my goodness. kevin: oh wow. holy cow. josephine: oh my god. jenna: it's totally different. josephine: oh my goodness. it is unbelievable! george . -yeah? kevin: there he is. -george, it's spectacular. oh my goodness. i love it. kevin: really. oh my god. -so beautiful. [music playing]

-it's been amazing to see how much time and effort and dedication and love has been poured into this backyard. every little detail just is a huge reminder of how much people love my mom, and it's such a blessing to be able to come back here every day from now on and have a constant reminder of that. -you've given her freedom. you know she can get in and out of the house now by herself. she can come out, she can water, she can-- you know. and it's not just about the backyard. now it gives her freedom to get anywhere she wants. the fact that i can come out here in the morning and, you know, just enjoy it by myself. it's just going to be such a delight. it really will. -yeah, now when i come down in the morning, she won't be in the kitchen. she'll be outside. -yay! -and she'll be able to bring me a cup of coffee now. -of us being able to experience somebody else putting in all

that hard work for our family, and it's just totally-- both: overwhelming. -well, mrs. klein, it is no secret that you are a very popular and loved woman-- not just by your family-- thank you guys for writing in-- buy by the entire community. i would love to take all the credit, but it was really a village. so without further ado, why don't i bring them on in so that you can thank them yourselves. -absolutely! -all right. come on in! josephine: oh yay! george: led by vinny and daniel and everybody else. josephine: oh my goodness. how do we say thank you? oh my goodness. this rescue has been a game changer for us because it-- it means freedom, it means independence, it means safety, and complete joy, being able to come out to someplace this beautiful. -and on a personal note, from everybody at the school, to everybody who got dirty in this backyard, i just want to thank you for being a part of "george

to the rescue." we love you, kleins. josephine: thank you. kevin: thank you.

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>> this sunday on meet the press, can we defeat isis without troops on the ground? >> i will not commit you and other ground forces to finding another ground war in iraq. >> this notion is just not true. >> i'll ask samantha power and kbar to the u.n. and mike mullen if u.s. troops will be dragged into battle zblxt also, some americans suddenly saying tax cutting gone too far? could republicans become the victims of a new anti anti tax fever. how the fight nor the senate could really turn out to be a battle between starbucks and

chill filet. and what everyone in washington knows and is afraid to say. buzz feed john stanton and amy walter, welcome to sunday, it's meet the press. from nbc news in washington, this is meet the press with chuck todd. and a good sunday morning to everybody. president obama will be addressing the united nations on wednesday as the united states continues efforts to build aco arigs to take on isis and iraq and syria. last week, the house and senate approved funding for the so-called moderate syrian rebels and there were huge questions that remain over the president's strategy after the country's most senior general, martin dempsey suggested that american troops might be needed on the ground. it's an option that the president continues to rule out. all this adding to a sense of confusion about the

administration's approach to defeat isis. let's rewith wide -- rewind and what we've seen just over the last few days. >> these american forces will not have a combat mission. >> and if there are threats to the united states, then i of course would go back to the united states and make a recommendation that may include the use of u.s. military ground forces. >> the possibility of combat troops despite what the president told the nation. >> i will not commit you and the rest of our armed forces to fighting another ground war in iraq. >> there is no way in hell we're going to beat these guys without an american ground component in iraq and syria. >> u.s. ground troops will not be send into combat into this conflict. >> there will be boots on the ground if there is going to be any hope in success and strategy. >> our strategy does not involve u.s. troops on the ground in a combat role.

>> joining me now is samantha power, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. welcome back to "meet the press." >> great to be here. >> let me start with this issue of combat troops and there's been what appears to be a debate between the military and civilian leaders. your job as ambassador to the united nations, you are trying to build a coalition, secretary kerry. you tweeted this on friday, huge outpouring of support. what countries have committed combat troops to fight in syria? has any of them done it? >> let me under score the point of outpouring of support. secretary kerry convened a meeting on friday, the french last week joined combat strike missions in iraq for the first time. you have the saudis who have come out and offered training

bases for the moderate opposition now that congress has approved the train and equip program that the president put forward so we're seeing a diverse range of forms of support and the commitments are coming in every day. but this issue of getting combat troops from other countries, we know the president doesn't want it to be american, but because we're not pledging american combat troops potentially, is that making it hard tore get other countries to commit? >> we're not having problems getting countries to commit. our strategy is predicated on the iraqi and kurdish forces in iraq leading the effort. they are going to be in the best position to know how to take back territory in their own country. and in syria, the strategy is predicated on the moderate opposition building out its capabilities over time, professionalizing those forces. that's our strategy. the other capabilities the coalition partners bring to bear in support of ground operations

by local people. >> let's talk about this moderate opposition in syria. i'm a little confused at who we're training them to fight. all week long, the president says we're training them to fight isis, but a year ago, the idea was to train the moderate syrians to fight asad. with retraining them to fight isis or assad. who are we training them to fight? >> our nationalç imperative iso go after isil and the moderate opposition will have a better opportunity to do that. >> is that what the syrian army -- free syrian wants to do? i think they have been wanting to fight assad. they have been fighting side by side with isis. do they know that? >> the training will serve these troops in the same struggle they have been since the beginning of

this conflict. they have been fighting isil since december. they have pushed them out of strategic areas. the reason that they have lost the moderate opposition have lost territory over time is they have been fighting isil and taking the fight on isil. we think with an infusion of support, these fighters who have actually held their own against this wide array of actors fighting on fronts will be in a much stronger position to go after isil and put pressure on the regime so we can get back to the table for a political solution. >> i know the president already believes he's justified. what do you need from the united nations this week for some sort of resolution? i know there's talk of a chapter 7 type resolution to give some legality to what the president wants to do and this coalition wabts to do.

can you explain what legally you want the u.n. to give on this front? >> the unhas provided a stage to show the overwhelming support for the anti isil effort. president obama comes to town and couldn't veens a meeting of the security council. that's very rare. cutting off their financing, et cetera, and under scoring the multidimension shall aspects of the fight against isil the fight against foreign terrorist fighters more specifically. in terms of the united nations again, we continue to hear from our partners how grateful they are that we have answered iraq's appeal to come to their defense and use our unique capabilities in support of them. >> there's a big headline in the washington post this morning about basically more chaos in libya, some assassins in benghazi. what's the lesson learned on the united states intervention in

libya in hindsight for you when you are applying to sort of how we're dealing in syria? we left a vacuum in libya and now there's chaos in libya. how do you prevent that from happening in syria once the u.s. is successful in getting rid of isis? the goal of getting rid of ga daf if i, you did it. >> let me note, of course, that notwithstanding being roughly in the same region, these are two very different countries and circumstances. what is very important and the key again to stability over time is national institutions, national actors taking ownership of the stability of their countries, and that's again why this investment in the moderate opposition in syria is so important. in addition to their fight against isil, in addition to them being able to fend off regime attacks more effectively with our support, this is our investment in the stability of syria and the institutions that

are going to be needed. >> more dysfunctional, the united nations or the u.s. congress? >> no comment. i'm a diplomat. >> a very diplomatic answer. >> in the studio with me now are two members of the senate foreign relations committee who are on opposite sides of the president's request. a democrat, chris murphy and a republican, ron johnson. welcome to both of you. let me start with you, why did you vote against the president's request to arm these rebels? >> i'm broadly supportive of the president's strategy. there's no doubt we need to have strong response to isil, the question is whether getting involved in a very complicated sectarian war in syria is necessary to the overall strategy. the reality is that over the last year these so-called moderate rebel have been openly

coordinating with a wing of al qaeda. it is likely an impossibility that they can effectively fight on two fronts against both asad and isis and to me the risk is that the united states begins getting involved in what may be a very long term commitment to a messy civil war inside syria. i think that with air strikes in syria, counterterrorism and a focus on iraq, you can effectively degrade isis to the point that you have the room for a political solution. >> i guess, senator, that is d -- i've heard this concern finishing you fail, if the moderate opposition just doesn't work, iraq we spent billions of dollars and years training iraq and the first time isis came, they rolled over. so what happens? does the united states have to fill the vacuum if these moderates don't work? >> we have to recognize reality. if you want to see what's going to happen in the future, look to the past. we've had testifying before our committee and i've been talking to people behind the scenes that were involved in 2007 surge and

back then we were fighting 6 to 8,000 members of al qaeda in iraq. >> basically what isis is now. it's an off shoot of that. >> we didn't leave a stabilizing force behind so they were able to rise from the ashes. back then, we had engage 100,000 sunnis in that battle. we had 100,000 iraq security forces, once we cleared, we would hope and provide protection for the sun nie populations and we had 160,000 american troops that were involved in that fight. that's what it took for us to defeat 6 to 8,000 members of al qaeda and iraq. now we've got 31,000 members of the islamic state and we don't have a strategy for defeating them. listen, i believe they are a threat. i agree with proposal's goal that they must be defead. i'm just not seeing the strategy that it's actually going to work the. >> so you are open to the idea of keeping combat troops on the

table. >> i'm certainly open to doing what it takes to achieve the goal that president obama has stated we have to defeat isis because they made their intentions very clear. we know what their aims are. they need to be defeated. >> senator murphy, you heard the question i had to ambassador power about a vacuum in libya. we were successful with the campaign to get rid of gaddafi and with nothing there, chaos has ensued. how do you prevent that from happening in syria? >> we had secretary of state kerry before the foreign relations committee this week, 90% of the questions he was asked was the military strategy. this is the secretary of state who is in charge of the diplomatic strategy. military exercises are a shaping exercise to give the space in order to create political resolution there and so our focus should be on enough military power in order to force changes on the ground in iraq so that the sun anymoderates have a

place to go other than isil that's what we weren't able to do in libya because we hadn't made the full commitment to b h both. >> is the united states committed nor to defeating isis than the folks in middle east? >> that's hard to say. i want to meet with every representative, every arab state to certainly make sure they understand is that the only way the american people will support the type of action we need to take to defeat isis, they have to be in support themselves. they are more threatened by islamic state than we are, but we are under threat and chuck, it has to be pointed out, you cannot negotiate with isis, their diplomacy consists of beheadings and crucifixtihon.

there were two women who were bound, raped repeated thri. that's who we are fighting right now. we've been at war with them since 1993. we have to recognize it. we can't bury our heads in the sand. how do you defeat this ideology? diplomacy isn't going to do it, is it? >> what we've learned is that whenever we kill an extremist, warfare whenever we take out another number two takes its place. they aren't as committed as the united states. saudi arabia is not leading this coalition, and the united states is leading this coalition. that's really going to be the key as to whether it's successful. >> there are 3 different bills trying to take away the nfl's

tax exempt status. >> we are far higher priorities than -- three senate bills are in there. coburn, can't well, booker. >> we're mortgaging our children's future. i'll take a look at the bills. that is so low on my priority list not even thinking about it. >> thank you much. wait till you see this one as we are digging through the archives. we found something fascinating, this is a senator from new york, a republican discussing congress's authority. >> congress has permitted its power to be eroded completely in this area. the constitution does not give the president the power to declare war. only congress has that. >> 44 years ago and that debate is actually stillrise raging. can we really defeat isis

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we are back. as we've been discussing the political talk this week was dominated by the president's strategy to take on isis and the question of whether the war can be won without committing u.s. troops on the ground, no better person to assess that question than my next guess, mike mullen former chairman of the join chiefs of staff. i know you love arm chair generals and admirals so i will not try to make you play that arm chair aspect of that. i want to you to raek to something that retired general mattis said this week. he was talking about the u.s. not taking anything off the table when it comes to combat troops. he said if we put any restrictions on how much time we're willing to commit to it or certain elements of our national power that we're take off the table in advance it can work kbens us in terms of building the coalition that will give us full support. you dealt with military leaders

in other countries. will they be hesitant to commit if the u.s. is not committing ground troops? >> i think that they will commit to the commission as they understand it. i think what you heard general mattis say was don't take any options off the table venl i actually think when general dempsey our current chairman anticipating a question at a hearing asked about ground troops took it off the table in his opening statement from the standpoint if the circumstances warrant it he would go back and recommend to the president the possibility or the option of using ground troops. i think that's a natural part of the discussion in this debate about how you execute a mission. there should not be any question in the end who decides this and that's the president. so i think what general dempsey was trying to do was certainly

explain to some degree how the process works. i think it's been blown way out of proportion in terms of the disagreement between the military and the president. >> we're also talking about degrees about what might be done. nobody is saying -- nobody is saying and i don't even think military leaders say you need hundreds of thousands of american combat troops in syria. i think the question is could you need five or ten,000 of say -- 10,000 of special forces. is that what they are talking about? >> i don't know any leaders military or civilian who are talking about brigade size unit, 4,000, 10,000 at a crack. we certainly learned in these wars that it's important to have indigenous forces on the ground and our ability to both train them and support them as made a difference. i think we're going to clearly

right now see where we are in iraq, at least feedback i'm getting is cautiously optimistic once the air power strikes have started, the forces little more engaged. >> why did they roll over that first time? we spent billions training this iraqi army. >> i think what's missing in this discussion is what mall la can i did his army. you replace all the leaders, particularly those in the north were generally known as weak leaders and when it got really tough, those leaders left, and then you had the forces with no leadership there. so i think that is a big part of it. what i'm hearing now is that with the support of the american fire power, you know, they are coming back, so we'll see, and i think they have got to work hard to reduce the space that isil is

operating in and i'm cautiously optimistic they will be able to could that. >> when we talk about syria, who is capable in the region? we're asking these coalition forces, we're trying to create this, what countries are really capable of being a good ground force and help in syria? >> we've had, and again not to major combat units, but yeef had forces on the ground in afghanistan from the uae. we've had them from jordan. small numbers from bahrain, and -- >> but knows are the countries we should really be thinking about when you hear this. >> we've seen the saudis, the saudis actually have a capable force. i think in the end that becomes a question, is will the saudis support us in that regard and i don't know the answer to that question, quite frankly. i listened to ambassador power talk about this meeting on friday and the feedback i've gotten back on that it was a

pretty powerful meeting. there were four ministers who flew in from around the world. it's the convening power of the u.s. as well as the sense of you are sense you didn't that -- urgency that we really need to do something about this threat. >> as a you chairman of the joint chiefs, public opinion about a war and ground troops, should it impact the advice you give a commander in chief and does it end up impacting even if it shouldn't? >> i didn't see it. i don't think it should, and i didn't certainly integrate it into my recommendations to two presidents. obviously you know what's out there, but you are given a mission by the president. you put the options on the table to execute that mission and it really is up to the president and his team to integrate all the other aspects of it. the political aspect of it. the policy aspect of it. the confidence they have inspect term of execution. >> but you end up having to come

up with a plan where you realize boy the politics of this are really impossible, even though we have to do this just because of the reality of the politics. >> i didn't do that. i didn't see military leaders shape options or shape ideas or come up with plans that were shaped by politics or anticipation of difficulties in that arena. no. that, we really kick over to the president and his team. >> and create the fire wall there? >> yeah. >> admiral mike mullen, it's nice to see you. let me get some reaction from the panel. let me start with you, your party, a little bit split on this when it comes sort of the hawks and the doves. you work at a think tank. what are you hearing from the progressive base when it comes to what the president is trying to do in syria? >> there's a lot of an skity about what the president is trying to do in the middle east.

i think that's energizing it is people are really haunted by the last iraq war, and the truth is we put a lot of boots on the ground and it had a really negative repercussion. we're still dealing now throughout the world with the repercussions from george bush's war in iraq, and so i think actually that really permeates this debate, and i think people think about the politics, but i also think what we should recognize about the president's position about ground troops and a large, a large american footprint, is that it has -- it can have negative repercussions. it's not just political -- >> that's what haunts him more. it's politics but it's a different politics. >> if it's just a u.s. war with isil -- >> that's what isis wants. >> that will also create real

problems for an effort to defeat it. everyone talks about the politics but i think there's a really substantive reason why a large footprint is a problem. >> stan, capitol hill, that's where you see this rubber meet the road it really is anxiety. iraq fatigue it's the new vietnam fatigue. >> if the public is haunted by it. politicians are very much haunted by it. there's a reason partly because of our votes in the war in iraq and afghanistan. i think you see this playing out on capitol hill. nobody wants to be -- touch this thing with a ten-foot pole. they are willing to give them money -- >> they don't even authorize it. >> we'll wait till next year. next year again. >> after the election. >> which election actually are they talking about? 2014, 2016. it's very toxic for everybody on the hill. >> you feel the anxiety, the military leaders, i don't think they think they can win with this strategy, but they know

that the public -- i mean this is where you feel this -- >> the tension was pretty clear in what you put out there. the american public, the fact that this is happening 40 days before an election is important to remember in that if you are a democrat right now and you wanted to make this election in which you are strongest on, the economic, security issues, to make the contrast between the republican economic plan and democratic plan, that's not what we're talking about at all. we're talking about security and it is permeating, watching voters right now, there is a security concern and safety concern that is palpable. >> let me play republicans are -- it's a 2002 flashback, i've got a couple of ads that they are doing now. let me run a couple of them. the ads were in places like iowa and in little more rural areas, swing districts where republicans are doing the

terrorism, terrorism attack. hey, democrats, weak on terrorists. good politics for gop? >> terrorism was one of the remaining advantages that president obama had where he was rated with pretty good job approval and that advantage has now collapsed in the cbs "new york times" poll that was out earlier this week. if you look at the house vote, republicans in the house were more supportive of this action than democrats were. he's going into this conflict with a split party, and i think that that vote overstates his support on capitol hill because republicans are still deferring a little bit to the commander in chief and democrats are still deferring to their party leader but those things are going to erode over time. >> up next, the anti, anti tax revolt. people are actually saying tax

me more, sort of. it's happening in a place you me more, sort of. it's happening in a place you would least expect. american employers and their workers to go backwards. they want to go back in time and retroactively rewrite the tax laws. so they can impose taxes that weren't owed in the first place on american businesses. it sounds crazy. but it's true. the white house is on record saying they're considering retroactive taxation

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