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my wife was diagnosed with breast cancer around hurricane sandy time in october or november of 2012. the cancer had spread to her brain in july of 2013, and she had passed away on december 7, 2013. i said i would marry her over and over again, even if i knew what, what i'd have to go through, because she gave me 19 of the best years anyone could ever happen to have. and we were just, we were just short of 20. you know, we didn't make it. but, you know, she gave me two wonderful kids. that's one thing she always made, made me promise. i'm a little bit more laid back. she goes, "you just make sure you're there for the kids when they need you, or-- so, that was my pledge to her. to always be there for the kids and i always will be. -we always tried to stay positive throughout everything.
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and like, especially with the chemotherapy, and as it got further along the road. you just had to appreciate the little things. those days when her abdominal muscles didn't desert her and she had the strength to get up, and those days when she had half a sandwich for lunch and she was able to eat. and those days when someone in house didn't cry. and it was just the little things that everyone had to appreciate. -this experience just, like, completely made us closer. like now, like we don't have to say anything we understand each other. like, like, now we feel like, i feel like, nothing, like, any-- anything that never happens is never going to be able to separate us just because we're so close from what happened. -with my mom now having passed, it's-- it's everything's sort of, goes to dad now. and he really fills the spot well. -when, when linda passed away, we actually had-- we talked about this.
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we could move. uh, i mean we love our community. we would not have moved out of the community, but we could have moved houses because everywhere you turn is-- is-- is a memory, but there's also good memories. it's kind of a good and a bad. and so, one of the things that i've tried to do is slowly try to redo things to the best of my ability because i-- i want to try to achieve the balance of being confident. this is our home, this is where linda was, uh, but also we're moving on. and we're moving on in a nice way. and i'm trying to make it as comfortable as we can. -it-- it's a little bit amusing watching him trying to figure all this stuff out when-- -he has no idea what he's doing. -he-- he really doesn't know what to do, when to do it. -i-- i-- i want to tackle the kitchen because i-- i-- i think at the end of the day, that is the central focus point of the house. right now, it's very closed in, it's very small, it's really not that functional. -yeah, i def-- i definitely think that changing the space could change someone's spirit because-- could change all of our spirits-- because, just, it'll help with-- bring new environment to the household,
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and a new atmosphere. -i-- i-- i wouldn't be able to tackle a job like this by myself be-- be-- i just have so, so much on my plate. i wear-- don't make fun of me-- but i wear two hats, right? -of course. he wears two hats. -i'm, i'm a mom and a dad, and to throw on a project like, of this magnitude? and if i, if i had to manage it? -it'd be-- it'd be one more hat. three hats. you can't handle three hats. -no, you can't handle three hats, so. hey, george. to oliphant. -george, good to see you. -nice to see you. -what a surprise! -what's up guys? -hey! -how's it going? -hey! -hi. -how are ya? -good. how are you? -i'm, i'm doing great. i'm doing--doing fantastic now that i'm meeting you guys in person for the first time. -what a great surprise! -and, uh, so yeah, since i'm here, i just want to let you know that we're here to rescue your guys' house. -oh, fantastic! oh, thank you so much. -are you serious? -thank you so much. -i'm serious. -i can't believe this. -wow. -it was just-- i-- i-- i don't know.
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th-- th-- th-- we-- we're just like so-- uh, there was a loss of words when george came to-- to our door and opened the door, and-- there-- i'm-- i'm at a loss of words now just thinking about it. -i'm so sorry for your loss, but uh, you know, i'm-- i'm here to do what i can make this house absolutely perfect for you. -oh, wow, i can't-- can't believe george is in east hills in our front door. what are you doing here? -now, while we're doing the project, we're going to be putting you guys up at the inn at fox hollow hotel. they'll take care of everything and, uh, we'll be taking care of the kitchen here the house. -uh, it's not every day that a, uh, tv celebrity shows up at your front door, uh, wanting to help you out. -helping us out on this rescue, we have our designer deb baum and our contractor michelin duke. guys, welcome to the allen family kitchen. -thank you. we're very happy to be here. -so, what are your guys's thoughts? -the way i see it, it's, it's been outdated. it's about 25, 30 years old. i think we need to make it fresh, make it modern.
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-really, the kitchen is the heart of the home. so, we want to make this a space where this family could be together and feel really comfortable. -so i think we're all in agreement that this kitchen is tight, it's dated. ideally, we open this space up and make it to something special. -so if we open up this space, then we come right into the dining room. -if this wall comes down, what i love is that you could see the fireplace from the kitchen. they would love it. it would be great. -i like the idea of unity, everything has to kind of flow together, but where are we drawing the line? are we going to just go all out? are we going to have a specific list of things that we need to work on? or are we just going to--? -yeah, like, how far are we going to go? -how far can we go? narrator: george to the rescue is sponsored in part by 3m, makers of scotch blue painter's tape, the number-one brand of painter's tape.
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-so gordon, what is the scope for this project? -well, george, we're going to start over here at this wall. -ok. -and we're going to include the dining room. -yep. -we're going to include the mud room. and we're going to include the kitchen. -so, does that mean this wall is coming down? -this wall is coming down so that the kitchen and the dining room are more one space so the family can all be together. -wow, we have a great community turnout here to help us with the allens' kitchen. -now, many hands make light work, but it is imperative that we are safe and we are organized. we got 3m safety glasses, we got respirators. let's have at it. what do you say? -i love it. you know, the community is really coming together for this project. we even have the local coldwell banker representatives coming to help our contractors and his team get this job done quickly. i have to say, i like having them on demo day. -well, you know, showing up here today, we really didn't know what to expect, but they really did put us to work. and, um, it was a lot of fun to get in there
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and take the kitchen apart. -you know, here at coldwell banker, i truly believe that we don't just sell real estate; we change lives. anything that we can do to help out a family through a tough time is something that we want to be a part of. the needs of every family changes, and the allen family is now starting a new phase in their life. and we're very happy to help them create space where they can make new memories and share happy times together. -i think, you know, we're ready to take this wall down. -agreed! -on my count. three, two, one! let's take down this wall! -woo! -what good is a new kitchen if you don't know how to use it? i have the perfect secret ingredient that will really get this kitchen cooking.
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-hey, what's up, guys? how's everyone doing? -good to see you. -good to see you. good to see you, my friends. you guys have any idea what's, uh, up my sleeve? i have short sleeves, so not a lot. -not a clue. not a clue. -so, uh, why don't you guys follow me inside? -excellent. -narrator: george to the rescue is sponsored in part by coldwell banker real estate. fulfilling dreams for 108 years.
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. -not a clue. not a clue. -so, uh, why don't you guys follow me inside? -excellent. -guys, welcome to the ymca teaching kitchen. -oh-- oh my god. we just watched your episode. -did you really? -yeah, we just watched your episode. -today was just one of those really fun and special days on the rescue. we were able to combine three rescues into one. so we're here at the ymca, which we rescued a few seasons ago,
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and then we brought arlene from a kitchen that we recently did, and then we brought in the allen boys. now, i figured since we're giving you guys new kitchen, it's probably a good idea if you guys know how to use it right? -it'd be a great idea. cause we don't know what we're doing in the kitchen. -you will know. so we got the best chef i know to teach you everything she knows. well, at least get you started. -well, we're really novices here, so you think we can handle it? -oh, i know you can handle it. i really do. it's extremely simple. -so, arlene, what are we having? -today we're going to have a healthy meal. we're going to have salad, we're going to have chicken, and we're going to have dessert. -um, so today, arlene helped us rescue ourselves by, like, teaching us how to cook. now, cooking is actually really fun. before, i thought it was, like, not fun and just annoying, but now i see how fun i could actually be. -my husband was saying last night, he was saying, "let's practice a couple of the things so in case-- you're so used to doing everything, let me be the student so this way uh, we--" -and how did [inaudible] do? did he pass with flying colo? -he did. and then he says, "write it down." hmm, hmm, i did.
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-i learned how to roll chicken. and four, four different ways to roll chicken. it's easy, it's fun, and it's something that i look forward to doing with-- with the boys. -so as they're rolling, we're going to roll and pull to you. push down, and pull to you, and keep on-- -i'm not just saying this, but i sort of felt a little bit of my mom within her. like, she was just that type of person. so caring, so, just like, that attracting force you have towards her. -oh my god, they are wonderful. the boys are wonderful. the dad, i mean, just such a warm family. they're going to be cooking up some big meals in that kitchen. i can't wait to see what they're making. -give a round of applause to arlene for showing us how to do all this amazing stuff. -thank you. thank you so much for letting me do this for you, all right? i really mean it. i'm looking for to lots of good meals coming out that kitchen. -yes, me too.
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deborah baum: hey, george. -hi, deb. it looks like we've got a pretty big delivery here. -riverhead building supply just brought my favorite floors. i am so excited. -all right. well, let's get them unloaded, inside, so they can acclimate. -let's do it. [music playing] stephen fanuka: i'm not gonna tell you which way to turn. -i count on you. your the eyes in the back of my head. so today we are installing our kitchen cabinets, which were provided by my friend steve fanuka. and, um, that's obviously an integral part when building a new kitchen, is the kitchen cabinets. george oliphant: there's so many pieces inside right now. i don't know if we should bring them in or leave them out. [grunts] -uh, wait, this is a banquet, right? -yeah. -let's, uh, let's take a drive by. bring it in. -all right. drive by. -what's making it difficult is we have our wood floors, which were just installed, but they have yet to be sanded. we have our cabinets going in. we have our molding going in. and we also had all of our appliances delivered.
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and it's-- it's just a circus, -we've got to start doing something because if they're gonna start bringing stuff it's gonna get very cluttered. we're not going to have any space to work. so get a screw gun in your hand, let's get some 3/4 number six screws up and let's start putting the doors up. -all right, perfect. and then work came to a screeching halt because-- -we have no more 3/4 inch number six screws. how can we run out of screws? -so we have all these cabinets, but we couldn't put the doors on and we couldn't put the shelves on. -how do we run out of screws? -ho--how does-- yeah. how does a cabinet builder run out of screws? -don't go there. narrator: george to the rescue is brought to you in part by the inn at fox hollow, long island's luxury boutique hotel.
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-i thought you said this was light, antonio. you were-- yeah, no. it's not light. [music playing] so we got this pencil quartz counter top from european. it really ties the whole room together, the paint, the back splash. and we've got the guys who fabricated it installing it, my friends here from renaissance. i think it looks good. thank you, guys. -oh my god. i'm so excited. -right? we got a counter top. -we got a counter top. and now we know why we have a different counter color there, and then the white back splash. this ties it all together. george oliphant: brings it all together. and it looks like marble, but it's actually pencil quartz. -it is. -so-- -you know what's great about that? -what? -there's no staining. the guys can be messy, which i'm sure they will be, and they don't have to worry about anything. [music playing] i kind of like it under that painting. george oliphant: yeah, i like it under the paint-- painting. deborah baum: it's like a little cultural corner. george oliphant: and you can look out the window. you know, the george to the rescue truck right there, i mean talk about writing an inspiring song,
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maybe this is where the birth of the george to the rescue musical can start. deborah baum: oh, i like it. [banging on piano] i really thought you were just gonna, like, do a chopin. -right? well, if i knew how to play the piano. [music playing] george oliphant: so. deborah baum: you guys are gonna love this! look. all: wow. [whistling] -that is gorgeous. this is-- right? deborah baum: we don't mess around. woman: unbelievable. -no. all right. i like it, the crushed velvet. deborah baum: oh, yeah. what are you, king george? -well, you know, this whole dining room set from safavieh certainly makes me feel like royalty. -you look like your on your throne. -i-- i am on my throne. -i like it. -well this is gonna be, you know, this is going to be the allen family's. -it is. it's going to be his throne. -throne table. deborah baum: that's right. so you like it? -i love it. [music playing] all right. this place is pretty much spic and span.
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i think it's time to bring the family home for a reveal. [music playing] hey, guys. -hey. -hey, george. george oliphant: welcome home. -thank you. good to see you. -bring it in my friend. -good to see you. george oliphant: good to see you. good to see you guys. i want you to know that those new found cooking skills, they will not be wasted in this new kitchen. you guys want to see what we've been up to? all: absolutely. yeah. -all right. guy allen: let's do it. -whoa! -oh my goodne--
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-hey, guys. -hey. -hey, george. george oliphant: welcome home. -thank you. good to see you. -bring it in my friend. -good to see you. george oliphant: good to see you. good to see you guys. i want you to know that those new found cooking skills, they will not be wasted in this new kitchen. you guys want to see what we've been up to? -absolutely. -yeah. -all right.
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guy allen: let's do it. -whoa! -oh my goodness. [music playing] -oh my goodness. -ho-- my god. guy allen: what's this? george oliphant: oh, that's for you! i forgot and you even-- you walked right by it. so the kitchen is obviously for everybody but we also wanted to give you a little wine fridge. -whoa! -this is the adult section, guys, you're not allowed over here. jarred allen: i really had no idea the whole house was getting, like, redone. i thought it was just the kitchen. they just do so much. so cool. [dramatic music playing] landon allen: i mean this spaces is-- it's-- it just makes the house complete. it's just so welcoming and every time you walk in it's just so refreshing. guy allen: linda would've-- would have been blown away. she would be smiling down saying, you go guys, unbelievable.
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so many people do so many nice things and so much generosity, it's, you know, it's hard to be on the receiving end of this. it really is, i mean it's so appreciated. [soft music playing] george oliphant: obviously, no way i could have done this myself. so, uh, instead of just telling you about the amazing people that came through these doors to make this all possible. what do you say we go and meet them? -let's do it. -love to. -without the help of everyone out here, none of this would have ever happened. [cheering] guy, landon, jarred, everybody who's out here, played a special part in making this rescue come to fruition. but i'd really like to acknowledge the team from coldwell banker, and especially the president of coldwell banker, residential brokerage, laura rittenberg. -it was our privilege to be part of your rescue, and on behalf of your friends at coldwell banker, i am very pleased to present a check to you, to the american
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cancer society in memory of linda allan. -oh my god. wow. [applause] you know, to be on the receiving end of, like, a virtual avalanche of kindness and generosity. people working so hard, it's just-- it's an unbelievable feeling. it really is. george oliphant: and what that, welcome home! -thank you. [cheering] [soft music playing]
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this sunday on ""meet the press"" america is on edge. ebola has been diagnosed on u.s. soil for the first time. >> the country is absolutely not ready for a large-scale epidemic. >> the head of the secret service had to resign after blunders that compromised the security of a president. >> the secret service needs someone to come in with a fresh
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set of eyes. >> has our government got a grip on all of these challenges facing the country? can preobama keep his promise about combat troops. >> i won't commit our troops to fighting another ground war. >> an iraq war veteran who thinks he has broken. >> they are actively engaged in combat. >> with less than a month until the mid terms i'm going to reveal some poles that may be what one party has been waiting to see. i'm chuck todd. joining me are joe scarborrow, andrea mitchell, gwen ifill and david axlerod. welcome to sunday, it's ""meet the press."" . good sunday morning here. before i get down to business, i should show you this new set that we have here. as you can see, we've got some
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new decor. a nod to the history of the show. some important decor over here that really gives scarborough a hard time. a university of miami helmet. a new coffee bar because it's sunday morning. we should only be drinking coffee. some of you may decide you need more than that. we hope you enjoy it. it's a clean look. we like it. it's more my style. now let's get down to business. it's been a rough week. there's a litany of problems. ebola and isis beheading. >> highest alert. the cdc has increased the emergency response to the ebola epidemic. >> this outbreak is the largest in history, causing the president to send u.s. military personnel in an attempt to control the spread of the virus. >> we have to act fast.
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we can't doddle on this one. >> ebola, one of the frightening but true story that have been seen on tv, newspapers and the intern internet. a man able to penetrate one of the most protected places in the country. >> no one has gotten all the way through the front door just behind me. >> worse than we knew. >> turns out, he got deep inside the mansion before being stopped. on friday, another beledding. then an e-mail confirming that another american is being held by isis. the white house realizing they need to reassure the public. >> the first confirmed case of ebo ebola. >> ebola walked into a dallas hospital. >> that person is being isolated and dealt with and contract tracing is being done. >> let's take a closer look at the severity of the ebola outbreak. the situation is dire in west africa with guinea, liberia and
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sierra leone severely affected. 7,492 have been infected and 3,439 have lost their lives. there are worries those numbers could skyrocket with the cdc laying out a worst case scenario. the president told me that only the u.s. could lead the fight against the virus. more than 3,000 american troops are being deployed to west africa in order to help with the relief efforts and build makeshift hospitals. it's important to know, only one case has been diagnosed in the u.s. this far. thomas eric duncan tested positive after traveling to the u.s. from liberia. his condition was downgraded yesterday from serious to critical. of course, here at nbc, we have been impacted. on thursday, ashoka mukpo, a freelance cameraman in liberia
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was diagnosed with ebola. he is due to be flown back for treatment in nebraska. no one on the nbc crew with dr. nancy snyderman has shown any signs of infection. she will quarantine herself for up to three weeks. i'm joined by the head of centers for disease control. welcome to "meet the press." >> good morning. >> let me ask you this morning what you can tell us about mr. duncan. we understand he's in critical -- i think now critical condition. what more do you know? >> well, just what you have said. as we know, this is a serious illness, that the virus is very hard to fight in individual patients. we know how to stop its spread in a community. but for treatment of individual patients, the best care is intensive supportive care. that's what's being done right now in dollaallas. we hope it is a severe illness
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that does take far too many lives. >> it's still being described as an exponential problem. every infected person ends up infecting two more people. it's an exponential issue. how do you change the math? when do you think you can change that math? >> well, with president obama's decision to send the department of defense in to provide critical support, they are on the ground and working with our team, with other teams in the u.s. government internationally, we're seeing a terrific international response. other countries are coming in and helping. the virus moves very, very fast. we're beginning to see some signs that the response is getting more and more effective. for example, at making sure people aren't being exposed to patients who have died from ebola and getting safe removal of bodies. there's been progress on that in the past. this is going to be a long, hard fight. >> let me ask you about drugs. we know there's some
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experimental drugs. some of them have been used to deal with the early u.s. relief workers that got infected early on during the of the process. is there signs of speeding this up to be used in west rave ca dd anything we need here? >> the drug pipeline is slow. the most promising drug, there's no more. it's hard to make. it takes months to make it. we're looking at vaccines. there are a couple of promising vaccines that are already in initial trials. if those were available, we would be able to use them for healthcare workers and potent l potentially other places if they work. we have to figure out as quickly as possible whether they work. even without drugs or vaccines, meticulous clinical care, just restoring a patient's fluid balance can save lives. we're seeing some of the makeshift hospitals providing that good fluid care that's doubling survival rates there.
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>> how do you calm american fears here? right now the public -- we saw an airplane quarantined in newark. you are seeing hundreds of cases where people are reporting potential symptoms that might be ebola related. frankly, we're getting close to causing a panic about this. how do you stop that part of this virus? >> it's really understandable that people are scared. it's a deadly virus. you have to go back to basics. the bottom line is, we know how to stop t. itit. we can do infection control in hospitals. we can do public health interventions that stop it in its tracks. we do that by identifying every possible contact, monitoring them for 21 days. if they get any symptoms, isolating and monitoring them as well. that's how you stop ebola. that's how we stopped every outbreak -- just this past week, we reported on our experience helping nigeria stop their importation of ebola.
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>> let me ask you very quickly, we have flu season coming up. can the u.s. healthcare system handle the incoming that if you mix fear about ebola with your typical flu season and people feeling sort of similar issues, fever, stuff like that, are you worried about a crush of the american healthcare system because of the ebola fear mixed in during flu season? >> i don't think we're going to see a huge number of ebola patients or even concerns for ebola patients. it's great that we have an index of suspicion such that we evaluate every person who has traveled and who might have it. that's what we expect to see. it's actually a good thing to see more concern so that we don't miss a patient and allow it to spread in a cluster in this country. what flu season will hold, i don't know. it's a good time to get a flu shot. the only thing you can predict is that it will be here and we can't predict what it will be like. very important to get a flu shot. that will reduce the burden both
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on you and the healthcare system. but i think our healthcare system certainly has challenges. but it can respond. it has resilience. we have hard working doctors and nurses, people running the system. we're going to learn from each experience and respond better next time. >> thanks for coming on "meet the press." >> thank you. >> you got it. >> for more on the ebola response i'm joined by a senior adviser to the president. >> thanks for having me. >> let's go to what the white house responsibility is, calming the public's nerves. is the administration considering stepped up tactics, month aggressive screenings at airports, something to reassure the public that ebola is going to have a hard time making it to the united states? >> the first thing is make sure the american people understand how hard it is to contract ebola and to understand that there is no country in the world better prepared than the united states to deal with this. the best public health
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infrastructure and doctors in the world. we have been preparing for this since the outbreak in west africa started seven months ago. >> why though -- go back to the question, is there -- i understand about the outbreak. are you going to try do more measures? i think this is a public that is very fearful right now. you say one thing here and then all of a sudden, ebola walked into a dallas hospital. >> we are going to constantly evaluate measures we have in place. it's important to understand that this has been happening for seven months in west africa. this is the first time someone has come to the united states. we're prepared for this. we will evaluate. the president is focused on this. >> you may do more? >> we will make sure everything is working. if we see there are flaws in the system, where things don't work, we will address those. we are confident. the president is focused on this every day. he is briefed on it every day. he he is in contact with the cdc. >> i think one of your challenges is a trust deficit
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that has been created over the last 18 months. i want to put up a graphic. whether you believe it's fair or not, it is a fact about all the different government gaps over the last 18 months. edward snowden, the v.a., irs losing e-mails. health.gov, the president saying u.s. intelligence under estimated isis, and the secret service. why should we trust what you are saying about the cdc is able to handle this? you understand why there's more skepticism than normal. >> i understand that peopleave been skeptical. growing skepticism of government. people should know that the situations where a problem arises, we deal with it quickly, forcefully to make sure it doesn't happen. let's take one example that got a lot of attention which is the surge at the border -- southwestern border. that was a problem that came. we brought to bear every
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response. this month crossing is less than they were. >> i understand that. i will give you -- there is a good reaction. ebola needs to be pro action. >> that's exactly what we're doing, which is why -- the only way to deal with this is to stop it at its source. which is why we have -- we are deploying 3,000 troops there to bring to -- >> is that enough? >> that is what the pentagon believes we need right now. we will evaluate that. what we can do there is bring -- no one is better at command and control, logistics. they will make a huge different over there. it will take time. it will take a lot of work. >> i want to play you a sound bite from republican senator rand paul about this military troop issue helping with ebola. he has a concern, frankly, that that's a way for ebola to affect the american military. take a listen.
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>> fair concern ? >> we're prepared to deal with it. people will be screened. we will make sure that doesn't happen. >> you think that's -- a lot of public officials that are skeptical and nervous about this. do you think they have been acting responsible? >> a lot of people have been very responsible about not raising irrational fears and communicating information people need to know. we appreciate that. >> i'm going to shift to the secret service. when you -- when the white house -- when the president decided to hire director pierson, did you rush, not whether she had a good background and good work -- good hr file, but did you vet to see, was she up to the job, or did you rush? >> we did not rush. she was someone with a 30-year
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record at the secret service. obviously, what happened over the last several weeks make it clear we needed to take another direction. we decided to do that. we are -- >> she was the wrong hire? >> we needed a new direction. joe clancy is someone who this president knows very well, i know very well. is the right person to come in on an interim basis. we will be here to begin dealing with whatever situations may arise. >> is it time to hire an outsid outsider? >> we will let joe clancy get there, look at it, begin to steer the agency in the right direction. we will see who the right fit is. >> ask you about the president's speech in chicago this week. there's one way to read it is he was declaring victory on his agenda, that he believes he has a suck -- is that a way to look at it, that basically it worked? my policies were right, look at this, everything is great? >> i don't think that's a fair reading of the speech. the president was very clear that while we have made significant progress to improve the economy, to build a durable foundation for the economy going
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forward, job creation, auto industry back, housing industry coming back, but we have more work to do because too much of the benefits of that growth is not being shared on the middle class. >> he said we are better than we were before but the direction of the country, the public, nearly 70% thinks we are on the wrong track. >> it's very clear, anyone who looks at the economy knows we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month. we have created more than 10 million private sector jobs. every indicator is up significantly over the last six years. but there's more work to do. that's a lot of what this is about is a choice between democrats and republicans. republicans opposing the common sense policies we need to help the middle class. >> thanks for coming be ining b "meet the press." let's get some reaction from our press. joe, let's go to ebola. you had some tough words on friday about government response in your own personal concerns,
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what you have heard. do you feel better than you did friday? >> i don't feel better. i don't think most americans feel better. you have everybody saying, let's stay calm. that's what the world health organization said when this broke out. they said, let's stay calm when the head of doctors without borders went to them and said, this is a crisis. they said, you are panicking. we are hearing the same thing now. let's look at it. the world health organization has dismal. they have ignored all of the warning signs. and then the african countries, the governments there have fail faileds mifail ed. a lot of americans are seeing what happened in dallas. what happened with the secret service? what happened with the irs? what happened with the v.a.? what happened with isis being a jv team? when any member of the department says, relax, americans don't believe that. >> andrea?
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>> in fact, it's that laundry list, it's more. worse here because in dallas, look what happened. the man comes into the e.r. he tells a nurse he was in west africa, in liberia. they blame it on a computer system? now they acknowledge it was the doctor on the case had the same information. people are not communicating. this is after we were told by the government, by the cdc, by the white house that doctors and hospitals around the country were prepared. one thing now though, they now begin to realize -- i'm told that they are now going to consider having screening -- they don't have the personnel. cdc doesn't have the personnel. but they believe if they go to a small number, four main airports, they can get 75% of the people. >> jfk, dulles, o'hare, newark, they can hit those. 75% of west african partners. >> you cannot trust people to be
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asked a questionnaire in africa. >> if you have a 6-year-old daughter and you are in west africa and you think she may have ebola, are you going to answer the question honestly? are you going to come to the united states? i'm come together united states to try to save my daughter. >> i have different questions here. one is whether systems broke down. it's clear you can look at isolated systems and say they broke down. it's one thing for the u.s. to say, we're going to send all of these -- the mobile military hospitals to set up. it turns out there's no infrastructure to get them there. the question is whether it's a term of index of suspicion, whether that expands to everything. i don't know that you turn -- americans turn and look to their government and say, fix this the way we think they do. if they are suspicious of government, then they aren't expecting government to have -- we have -- >> they are suspicious. >> one case of ebola in the united states. right? one. 3,000 people dead in west
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africa. so all of a sudden we are pan panicked? >> every warning case -- obviously, we have a magician. >> one case is a tipping point? >> it's growing to such a level in west africa that now is when you would start -- kent brantly said, a guy who knows about this because he had it, said this is a fire from held. if you think the atlantic ocean is going to stop it from coming over, you are kidding yourself. >> i have some -- i have -- i understand. i understand. >> okay, okay. let david jump in. >> these are public health professionals of world class standing. they have no motivation to mislead the american people. they have dealt with many epidemics before, many health issues before. i don't think there's a reason to believe that they are not doing what needs to be done. i will say this about the jaundice issue. i sat on this very set.
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it wasn't as nice. in the spring of 2010. we talked about the oil leak in the gulf. everyone said, this is obama's katrina. things are out of control. the government has broken down. you know, it wasn't even mentioned in the 2012 election, because ultimately it was dealt with. i suggest we look back six months from now -- >> i understand. >> and review this discussion. i suspect what we are going to say is, that wasn't what we thought it was. >> we have -- the problem for the white house right now is they have to -- make sure people don't panic. >> right. >> we can't have our public health facilities flooded. i brought up flu soon for a reason. e symptoms are almost identical. we could see a total crush on the system. >> what is our responsibility in creating and -- >> that's -- >> the government -- one second. >> one responsibility -- i don't understand -- i will be honest. this is a serious issue. i'm quoting people that have ebola that have spent time in west africa.
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>> people like you and like us, go on television and say, this is far worse than they are saying. this is a reason -- >> i'm not saying that. >> okay, guys. >> people respond to it. >> i'm going to hit -- >> what i was saying is, we have to ask tough questions. >> i thought he did a pretty good job. >> let's do the pause button. you guys have -- we're going to come back. we can continue this discussion. >> we're trying to help. >> i hear you. i hear you. you're doing great here. i have a few other guests here i want to talk to. in fact, when we come back, i have the head of the republican national committee here who has been immouamused by the back an forth. is it becau [ male announcer ] ours was the first modern airliner, revolutionary by every standard. and that became our passion. to always build something better, airplanes that fly cleaner and farther on less fuel. that redefine comfort and connect the world like never before.
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so far, that wave, not really in sight. on thursday my next guest laid out what he called the gop's principals for american renewal. those principals are nothing like the clear message the party off nerd 1 offerred in 1994. i want to talk about your principals here. they sound great. in fact, karl rove said it was very well poll tested language. preserve the constitution, balance budget amend money. improve veterans action to healthcare. value vallfamily, immigration, uphold the law. very agreeable language. i don't think anybody, including democrats, would disagree. there's no policy here. no policy connected to this. why? >> that's not true. we call for a balanced budget amendme amendment. we call for school choice. we call for the president adhere
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together constitution and not violating the law and not abi abiding the separation of powers act in the constitution. if you go back and look at the contract of america, it will say, welfare reform -- >> i've got it here. >> this is something -- >> we're not seeing the same thing this year. >> that's not true. when you can put john boehner, ted cruise, mitch mcconnell and a tea party express on the same page, which you have as a unified paeunify ed party -- if you look at arkansas, you look at alaska, south dakota, west virginia, louisiana, you go to colorado, you are seeing republicans in the lead. look, with a mon out, i would rather be where we are at than where the democrats are at. >> are you going to win the senate? >> we have to win the senate. >> for this to be a good election? it's a bad election if you don't win? >> i think that's fair. we have to win the senate. i think we will win the senate. the question is are we going to win with six, seven or eight
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seats. that's what's up for grabs right now. >> when it comes to -- one of the things in here that you didn't mention was a lot of social issues. why was that? >> we did talk about a strong family. we did talk about life. we talked about familiar -- >> seems like you are nervous. social issues working against you? >> not at all. we didn't hide away from social issues at all. the fact of the matter is is that people are out of work. real unemployment rate is at 11.8%. whether you are in texas or illinois, the president's policies aren't working. the president on friday, as you noted earlier in the show, said that his policies are on the ballot. if obama is on the ballot and his policies are on the ballot, it's bad for democrats. >> unemployment is below 6%. democrats say, hey, things are getting better. >> you spelled it out pretty well when you had peipher on.
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the labor participation rate is at record low. people don't feel better off than five years ago. obviously, whether it's the gsa, the irs, syria, ebola, the secret service -- what's going well in regard to this administration and those senators that have followed this president lock step? >> there was a supreme court -- they upheld a new law in texas. one of the things about the republican party is you don't like regulation on businesses, except if the business is an abortion clinic. 80% of the abortion clinics in texas are going to be basically out of business because of this new law. too much regulation, is that fair? why regulate on the abortion issue now until maybe the law -- maybe wait until the supreme court -- you win a fight where you outlaw abortion all together? why restrict the business in texas in. >> you have to talk to someone in texas. the fact of the matter is we
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believe that any woman faced with an unplanned pregnancy deserves counseling. >> 80% of the clinics are gone. they have to drive for the compassion. >> the issue is whether you ought to use taxpayer money to fund abortion. that's the one issue that i think separates this conversation that we're having. the fact of the matter is, what this election will come down to is whether people feel bert off today than they did four or five years ago, whether these democrat senators followed this president lock step in spite of the fact that things aren't going in the right direction, whether obamacare, jobs, the economy, keystone pipeline, all of the above. it's not working for him. you can try to steer -- talking about abortion, but the fact of the matter is, if you are in alaska, you are thinking about the fact of why my life isn't better off today than it was when this senator was elected six years ago.
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>> we will watch. thanks for many coulding icomi press." back to the panel. i want to put up this piece of sound we heard from the president from that speech. it was a pretty interesting comment that a lot of republican campaigns are excited about. here it is. >> i'm not on the ballot this fall. make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. every single one of them. >> well, by friday afternoon, they are in republican ads. >> now obama says -- >> i'm not on the ballot. but make no mistake, these policies are on the ballot. every single one of them. >> obama's candidate for senate in kansas, greg orman. a vote for greg orman is a vote for the obama agenda. >> david, you are not writing
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the president's speeches, would you have -- >> i would not have put that line in there. understand if you read the speech, the context of the line was the things he is pushing forward, minimum wage, pay equity, infrastructure, these are on the ballot. it was obvious when you saw the speech that that was not the way that -- >> you are an ad man. >> it was a mistake. fundamentally, the issue that he should be driving and the democrat party should be driving is forward looking, because the problem is how are middle class people going to make a living? what policies can we implement that can help? we ought to have that debate. >> go ahead, andrea. >> i'm not echoing anything. but if you look at "the wall street journal," "the washington post," "the new york times," the financial times, all the reporting on the jobs data from friday reported that participation rate is at historic lows, decade lows, 59%
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are involved in the labor force. that's just not a sustainable recovery. we have two americas. >> i'm going to get into that. >> that's been going -- that say long-term trend. >> it's not improving. >> everybody doesn't have to be political. this is a problem for the country. it's been with us over a long period of time. >> every reporting also on friday about these jobs numbers show they were the lowest since 2008. they showed that even though the job participation is dropping, that there is -- it's hard to argue that things aren't better. the problem and the dilemma for the president -- we saw it -- i don't know if he was winging that or not. the problem with the president, he wants to say, there is good news and i'm willing to run on that. except he's not running. >> i was going to say, i want to talk -- do they have a message? what did you think of the principals of -- >> obama is not on the ballot. his issues may be on the ballot. look at the polls. his numbers are low. and yet despite the fact they
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are low in kansas, you have an independent candidate up by ten points. despite the fact they are low across the deep south, they are in the low 20s. >> is that because the republicans don't have a message? >> there is no message. you know who is saying that? republicans. if you -- >> scott walker among them. >> if you don't like president obama's healthcare plan, what's your healthcare plan? >> what's the alternative? >> if you don't like what obama is doing on jobs, how are you going to get people back to work? nobody has the messages. >> he was trying to respond to what is obvious, which is their standing is lower than his standing, because of what you say. but you listen to the principals and it reminds me of -- we have to rise to higher and higher platitudes. >> you are so partisan, it makes me sad. >> we will take another pause. you are having fun this morning here. president obama has vowed american troops will not be sent to take on isis.
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then isis warned that an american aide worker could be next. air strikes again the group are continuing in syria and iraq. isis is continuing to make advances and those threats. here at home, the president has been clear. american combat troops will not be used to take on isis. clay hanna is not so sure. he wrote a piece explaining why. he is an iraq war veteran who serves from 2003 to 2008. sheer clay hanna in his own words. >> i do not think that there is honesty. when the president, when leadership has been speaking about how troops are being deployed, what's being said is that there are no boots on the ground. and characterizing the efforts in service of the military members that are deployed into the fight as something less than being at war. the truth is
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