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-how's it going, george? -you guys mind if i join in the workout? -of course. -yeah. -all right, i see those free weights over there calling my name. -so i was able to catch up with the ulrich kids here at the gym at the and enough i figured instead of just standing around, i'd get my sweat on. as you can see, i definitely accomplished that. now i don't know about you guys, but i think working out should be fun. i'm into competition, obstacles, things like that. do you guys want to take the "george to the rescue" physical challenge? -yeah. -you guys in? -yeah. -all right, let's do it. endurance, distance, and speed. that's what makes up the "george to the rescue" challenge. distance on the elliptical, endurance on the treadmill, speed on the stationary bikes. you're killing it, zach. you're killing it. you're done, you're done, you're done. scott jr: he's on level 1. george: doesn't matter. that's it. there was no rules. this was all about speed. you feeling it? are you nervous? are you gonna get beat by your sister? that's embarrassing.
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i might go the whole mile. -no, i don't think-- -then again, i'm george to the rescue. i mean, i'm tougher than everybody. i'm like, i eat nails for breakfast. with motor oil. it upsets my stomach, but whatever. you know, it's good stuff. -you've been doing a lot of talking. -yeah, i'm doing a lot of talking. so yeah, i'm gonna have to put the old-- the old body where the mouth is, right? start stretching right now. scott jr: looking kind of tired there, george. george: how many minutes did it take you to go 3/4 of a mile? -2:45. wasn't even [inaudible] -whew! those kids are strong. -who wants to go for a swim? scott jr: i do. -ok. let's go for a swim. you know, this is a beautiful hotel, the madison but i'm anxious to go home just to see what it's like to be with my dogs and everyone. it's gonna be good.
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-hi, george. thanks for joining us today. -here we are in the garage. -good to see you again, buddy. -garage-- it's ready for you. it's ready for your magic. -yeah, well, before we put this floor down, george, we gotta get the dust out of here. nice. keep it on low, george. -all right. -nice and steady. start-- get back-- [machine roars] george! no! it's going in the house. -hey, will you shut the door? -are you crazy? i know. i know. i didn't know that door was open. -no dust ingested. -no dust ingested. -these things work. -they certainly do. we've got a clean floor. let's put down some tiles. -let's do it. all right, these are a special tile. they're a breath-through tile, great for the garage. allows the floor to breathe. you can vacuum through them. you can pick one up if you needed to. -and just look at it. it's just snap and go. it's snap and go. it's very easy.
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all right, charles, i'm glad you're here, because you can't be doing this entire basement and garage makeover and leave this dingy old door installed. -i hear you. we're here to help out. putting in a fully insulated door. putting in a belt drive motor. the only probably that i see is that we got this beam right here sitting 10 foot 5 inches back. -right. -my motor is going to be tight. it just might fit in. so hopefully we can squeeze it in. announcer: "george to the rescue" is brought to you in part by the madison hotel and rod's steak and seafood grille, located in morristown, new jersey.
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see if this thing fits. it's going to be a tight squeeze. -it's just going to squeak in if it does. oh, it's right-- charles: we just cleared. we just made it. that's awesome. george: literally snuck it in by, like, the width of your hand. -so we got lucky with that one. all we have to do, cut some hangs and brace it up. i'm going to hook up my j-bar, some wiring, and we'll be good to go.
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travis: nice granite top here we got for the ulrich boys. watch those glass doors. they were just put in today. -the do-si-do. um, i'm going under. -you want to get out of the way there, george? -yeah, i want to get out of the way. [laughter] oh, [inaudible]. michelle: sorry. hold on. -i got it. building some furniture while we're waiting for furniture. -no, no. every truck i hear, i think is furniture. -all right. got our dixie foam beds here, because the kids are too tall for regular mattresses. these are going to be the only high school boys with bedskirts. and i like it. i like it. -they're black bedskirts. -they're cool. -they're classy. -i'm not knocking it. i'm loving it. i'm embracing it. all right. whoa! nice. one pillow ready. -let's-- i'm following your lead.
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-yeah, ok, i'm gonna swing. there we are. oh, sorry, i didn't give you enough swing. i didn't want to hit the tv. oh, yeah. i want to mess up that hair. boy, it's got that windblown look. it's blown-- [laughs] -it's like an '80s rock video going on in here right now. you know, michelle, this transformation is almost as big as the one downstairs. -it's fantastic. i can't wait for jenna to see it. -with that, i say this rescue's done. -absolutely. -good. -let's go get the family. ann: hey! george: good to see all those smiles. -hi, george. -how's everyone doing? -excellent. -good. -you guys have a nice stay at the hotel? ann: we had an awesome stay. it was-- -you guys ready to come home though? ann: we are so ready. -all right. well, we have been in there working hard. it's the same house, just a little bit better. -all right. -thank you. -want to see what we did? -i want to see. george: all right, let's go. -let's do it. holy sheez! god! [shocked laughter]
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george: all right, let's go. ann: let's do it. whoa! -damn! -holy sheez! this is freaking awesome! [shocked laughter] -holy god! this is amazing. this is unbelievable. scott: beautiful. scott jr: i didn't know there was that-- we could do that much to just a square box. george: extra-long beds. 7-foot beds. -for real? -yeah, yeah, look at them. scott jr: i was about to say-- george: no, i can't have your feet hanging off. scott: this is gorgeous! -it-- i-- it took my breath away. um, it's just absolutely beautiful. beautiful. -so you guys want to see what's behind these doors right here? all: yes. -all right.
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-oh my god. ann: no way! scott: oh, my god. look at this, ann. ann: holy good god! wow. for once, i think they were speechless. -mhm. they were speechless. they were. -they just-- -they didn't know what to expect. -they always have something to say, and it took their breath away. -all right, guys. so we finished your bedroom, gave you guys a little room to grow. -yeah. -made you guys a finished bathroom. but of course, we need a place to hang out, too, right? -yeah. -yeah. -want to see what's going on in the garage: all: yeah! -all right. follow me. check it on out. ann: oh, my god! oh, my god. check it out! whoa! holy god! god, i can't-- i just-- i-- i-- i'm overwhelmed.
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i just couldn't imagine, and i tried to. i just-- this is unbelievable. truly unbelievable. -i would have killed for a room like this when i was your age. scott jr: uh, this is going to change our lives. because we won't be ashamed to have friends over. we'll be-- we'll be good hosts. it'll just, uh, be a lot more easier to have people over than before. george: so we couldn't do all of this for the boys without doing something for jenna. -oh! george: you ready to see your room? -yes. -all right. come on. ann: oh my god! -oh my god! ann: oh my god, jenna! jenna: [shocked laughter] -wow! it's like a princess room. look at this place. it's-- oh my god!
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jenna: oh my god! i was jaw-dropped. i cannot believe this is my room. um, my bed is fantastic. everything in here is just so nice. -you deserve it for putting up with those three brothers. this is amazing. it's not easy. and, uh, just made it a whole lot easier. thank you. -you're welcome. obviously i didn't do it all by myself. ann: no. scott: for real. -there was an amazing crew that came in here and took care of everything. so i could tell you about them, but it's better if you guys meet them in person. -we'd love to meet them all. george: let's go back down to the garage. -yes, definitely. george: say hello. -i think this whole experience is very helpful to us. you know, we don't have the proper funds to do any of this, and for you guys to come in here and fix everything up, it just takes a weight off our our parents' shoulders that they really deserve off their shoulders. [applause]
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-none of this would have happened without the amazing time, the effort, and the generosity of all these people in front of you right here. i can't thank you guys enough for being part of this rescue. this is the family we did it for. -thank you. [cheering and applause] scott: thank you. thank you so much. -i'd like to say to george and the crew that did all this work, was thank you very much. i really-- my whole family appreciates it. you did a fantastic job. ann: i would like to thank george and everybody who did anything that contributed to this rescue. a heartfelt thank you from myself, personally, my husband, and my family. um, you have changed the lives of six people in a huge way. it's an incredible experience. -all of you guys have been absolutely unbelievable. and i just really appreciate you guys going above and beyond to not just help me, but help the ulrich family,
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this sunday, the the election season, sidetracked again, this time by two issues. this time ebola reaches new york city, and do we have to quarantine health care workers returning from west africa. and is it time for a travel ban from everyone returning from the affected countries. and another lone wolf attack, h this time in canada. and the hatchet assault on a police officer. what is happening with these mentally disturbed copycats. and my report from the battle state road trip. exclusive polling numbers to show the race to control the
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senate is on a pace. and also, what are the ebola darts? >> we have outsourced this to the tiny fraction of 1%. >> more and more, the outsourcing of politics. and what if children talked back to their parents like politicians. >> did you eat the cookies? >> i am deeply disturbed by that question. >> joining me is nia-malika henderson, carolyn ryan, dan balz and luke russert. i'm chuck todd and this is "meet the press." just nine days to go until the elections, and we have results from six states which will tell us about which way the wind is blowing and who might control the senate, and as for
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me, i'm on the road meeting the voters on the road trip and spending the week in the trip west and cover iing three state out there, we dropped in on the unpredictable race in kansas and neck and neck race in iowa and also the battle in wisconsin that i feel like it has been going on continuously for four years, but before we get to the polls and the races, two big races caused major concern for many and also, the homegrown spark of terror in ottawa. and of course, there is the doctor who contracted ebola when he returned from west africa where he was treating ebola patients. so let's start with ebola. >> reporter: this week, ebola came to new york city when craig spencer, the new york city doctor who had been treating patients with doctors without
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borders in guinea. the situation in west africa is dire though with the world health organization announcing that the number of ebola cases has now passed 10,000. but there was encouraging news with nina pham becoming the latest american to recover from the disease and receiving a hug from the president. many are calling the affected travel ban for the country, and now, many politicians are calling for a quarantine for those returning from the affected countries who have had direct contact with the patients. and those quarantines have been been criticized by people such as casey hitchcock who was held for several hours before testing negative for the virus. she said it is frightening and
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said others will be deterred from helping with the treatment in west africa. i'm joined by sophie dellenaise with doctors without borders. start with the cases in illinois, nng nj and florida, and are you already finding that you have doctors the and other health care workers backing out of volunteer trips to the affect ed areas? >> well, you know, frankly speaking, we are frankly confused about the order, because we have been, we have been putting in place over the past few months protocols that are based on well known medical science and accepted and those protocols ha protocols have been strictly followed by our staff. they consist of self-monitoring, and very strict self-monitoring, and we ask our volunteers coming back from west africa to monitor their temperature twice a day during 21 days, continue the
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monitoring of symptoms and also to report symptoms as soon as they realize that they are different. this is the protocol that our colleague craig strictly followed this week. >> you believe that dr. spencer did not put any new yorkers in harm's way? >> well, what we know from medical science is that a person who does not present in some way is not likely to transmit the disease. even though the disease can only be transmitted through the exchange of body fluids, so it is actually impossible that a person living for example in the same person of an infected person who is not presenting,
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themselves, could be infected with ebola. >> any new protocol to add to simply reassure the american publ public? >> well, we are working on strengthening the monitoring, of course, of our field workers, but we also very confused about what are going to be the recommendations by the states. we are strictly following the guidelines of the public health institutions in the u.s. and working at increasing of strengthening ours. what we are most concerned about is the health condition of the colleague. we are very sensitive, too, and understanding of the anxiety that ebola triggers, but more importantly, we are very much considered about the situation in west africa where the situation is very much out of control. quarantine measures and corrective measures against a
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worker could give us a superfluous measure of security while the most important measure is to tackle the virus at the source. >> thank you, doctor, for your time this morning. >> thank you, chuck. samantha powers, ambassador to the united nations, is traveling to the affected area, and we asked her yesterday if treating passengers with ebola is necessary? >> we all value their help, and we need to encourage many more who are going, and we need to treat them when they come back
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to treat them as heroes and not any other way. >> and joining us is dr. anthony fauci who is with the n.i.h. who successfully treated nina pham. and now, we have quarantines in new york, and illinois and new jersey and three airports who do receive passengers from the three affected countries doing mandatory quarantines, and good idea? >> well, the primary goal has to be to protect the american people, but there are ways to do that, that may not have to go that far. >> so governor christy and cuomo going too far? >> well, i don't want to criticize the decision made, but we have to be careful that there are unintended consequences, and the best way to stop this epidemic is to help the people in west africa and we do that by helping people from not only the usa but in other places, and we
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have to treat the people with respect and make sure that they are really heroes, and the idea that we are being draconian and there are other ways to protect, and monitoring and direct monitoring and active monitor i ing and we don't necessarily have to do that. >> and the governors of virginia and georgia, where atlanta hartsfield and where they are going to be feeling pressured to do the same as new york and new jersey, what would you tell them? >> well, go with the science. >> and the science says? >> the science says that the people who are not sick, and if you do not come into contact with bodily fluid and if somebody comes back from wherever, liberia, and they are well and they are no danger for anybody. >> well, dr. spencerr was well for a week. >> he was well for a week. >> but not leave them off, but m
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monitor them. monitor them in multiple ways, and you don't have to put them in a confined place. you monitor them and take their temperature and, remember, dr. spencer was not sick at the time that he was going around. and we keep saying it over and over again, chuck, you have to come into direct contact with the body fluids, and so the risk to the jep ral public is vanishingly small. >> apparently the according to governor cuomo, the federal governor is considering something more, something more astringent and what are you considering? >> well a that is certain types of monitoring. you have to strats fi the riss.s some people at high risk, some risk, and low, butt not zero risk and no risk. i am talk thing about the the health care workers. >> all health care workers, and you fashion what you do with them according to the risk. and one of the ways that you can mitigate against this issue is by monitoring. different types of monitoring, and you don't necessarily have to -- >> how do you make sure it is mandatory, because it is
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voluntary, and thank goodness that dr. spencer was doing it. >> there is ways to ratchet it up. you take the temperature and if anything is wrong, you report it. there is active where you report it to someone and then there is direct active where someone come comes in to take the temperature, and that is all short of quarantine. >> dr. anthony fou chishgs thank you for coming back on the program. >> thank you, chuck. >> thank you, sir. and now we want to turn to the issue of lone homegrown terror. officials say that a lone wolf is more difficult to stop than a coordinated 9/11-style attack. we have seen examples of it such as in monday in canada when a man hits a car, and then wednesday a recent convert to islam and on the canadian watch list kills a guard on the ottawa
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parliament hill and ends in a gun fight. thursday in new york, a self-radicalized muslim attacks four nypd officers with a hatchet. the police call it a terror attack. and then of course, in colorado, four young girls get on a plane to go help isis, and they are returned home from germany. and now joining us are our guests to tackle this in two ways. michael, let me start with you. are all of these terrorist attacks, islamic terrorism in the way that you would classify them or mentally deranged people gloming on to the ideology seeming to make their ideology more relevant? >> i am not sure there is a lot of difference in the two.
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they are sub-state actors and people doing it in the name of al qaeda or potentially isis, but in the cases of terrorists in the past, these individuals are ones who have had a crisis in the life, and they are mentally ill, and attach to an ideology, and in some cases, that is driven to them, and in some cases, it is a terrorist attack. >> and look, conspiracies, and these guys are good at breaking up, because once a person talks to somebody, you have got them. >> it is what we have have built up over ten years and it is great that you have just talked to dr. anthony fauci, because it is looking at risk in different areas. and the high-end, we are good at it, but the self-motivated lone wolves, it is much, much harder, and we don't have the resources to cover all of it. we have to mitigate it the best we can, but we can't overreact. it is in the scheme of risks of
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society, it is not a life and death matter for the entire nation. >> arselan, what is the role of the muslim american nation here, because it is some role of the leadership of the islamic communities to identify some of the people who are joining, converting, but not for the right reasons? >> well, chuck, it is important to keep in mind when you are ub tag about isis, it is not the x-mentor transformers here, and it is not wolverines or optimus primes, but it is loner idiots in the whitey tighties playing call of duty 4 who are disenfranchised are from the rest of the society. if you look at the shooter from ottawa, he was thrown out of a mosque similar to the boston marathon bombers who were once thrown out of a boston mosque. so the canadian authority has done a remarkable job, and i
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agree with michael what we will see is a lot of the self-proclaimed terrorist, and the new jihadi cool, and not part of a centralized organization to go on youtube, and i bet you that most of isis had never heard of him. >> i understand, but is it a media issue or the more attention attacks like this get, does it serve perversely to convince more of the mentally l deranged folks like this to say, i will use this ideology to continue my perverse attack. >> yes, the more impugned these folks are, it helps to further the agenda of these folks, but the fact is that there are over 7 million muslims who live here peacefully, and 5 of the last 12 nobel peace prize winners, and so sadly when you look at the narrative media-wise, it is
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always the negative, extremist narrative and that is what we have to push back against. >> and michael, the social media the narrative, and it is a helpful tool for you, but now it is a recruitful tool in some form or another, and how do you deal with it? >> this is the difference of isis, and previous groups. >> al qaeda was not. >> right. isis is not as much, but they are going after the jihadi cool. and so what they are not as good at in the government, but we have to monitor and the partnerships of the state and the local relationships have to change than we have in the last ten years with the muslim community and the government. >> well, it is all about building trust, and the surveillance and whether it is the fbi or the other agencies in the american muslim communities. >> and there is a little distrust? >> there is a lot of distrust. and again, to build the trust, and let the people know that community policing is sacrosanct
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part of law enforcement, and the muslim community is part of the solution and not the problem. >> and do we have enough muslim agents? >> no, we don't have enough agents who understand muslim law, and enough to understand 15 to 29-year-olds. they are disengaged to vote, nda they are the group likely to be voting, and it has to be more than nancy reagan just say no to drug drugs. >> thank you both so much. you gave us a lot to think about. >> and the panel is here sh, nia-malika henderson, carolyn ryan, dan balz and luke russert. dan balz, you and i have been on the road and how much did you find the ebola threat coming up? >> well, these are back of the mind issues, and they are not
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playing significantly in the races, and yet, it is adding to the unease out, there and yet, it add s s to the the question why are things working and not working and is my family safe? that is how it fits into the larger narrative of the campaign. >> and when it comes to the ebola quarantines, carolyn, when you saw the governors of florida and illinois both in tight races, they see what christine cuomo did, and they say -- see what christie and cuomo did, and they say, oh, no, we can't be out-ebolaed. >> right. you saw him come out with mayor de blasio and be quite confident of what is going on in new york, and then hastily, it was governor christie saying, not enough. so it generates more anxiety and it creates more and more space and a patchwork of different protocols, and it is confusing
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to the public and certainly health care workers. >> and nia, politics is obviously impacting the way that the guys are acting, and you can't help but wonder if they are going to be acting this way if the election were not under way. >> right. and particularly with a certain segment of the voters and thinking women, this is playing quite a bit. there was a focus group down in charlotte, north carolina, and down in new orleans, the walmart moms, and they are very worried about ebola, and much more so than isis, and the idea that ebola is here, and isis is over there, and certainly, i think that these folks who are thinking about politics now, and thinking about politics in 2016, a move to swiftly allay the fears and president obama is criticized for not acting quickly enough. >> and they are saying, hey, look at a us. and, so, luke, it is with what
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dan and i saw, they are engaged in the what the issues are, but you look at the democrats, and it is going to delay the chance for the democrats to make the localized closing argument that they want to make, while the republicans who are trying to make a national argument, they can fit it in. >> and i would argue that it ties the argument to president obama more directly, and one thing that we have seen through the midterms and really the strategy of the congressional republicans is to create a culture of incompetence around the barack obama administration, and system of the polling showing that the incompetence of bush around katrina, and so you are seeing it playing out around the midterms and delays the local can arguments and puts the democrats in the same boat as obama, and it is a tough thing for them to be at. you saw the cdc response a lot better than dallas. >> and when you see that, it is a lot more competency of the world is going to be a question of this, and it is going to be
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it'll fix itself. power's back on. quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. thrillingly predictable. polls have made it clear, the american voter is not satisfied with anything or anybody in power, personally in washington. the wild card in this election is how the frustrated voters will express themselves once they walk into the voting booth. this week i have been on the road to meet the voters. whether it's kansas, iowa or wisconsin, it's becoming clear that the close races are going to be decided by how volters come down on the question of this, punishing one party without rewarding the other. on the first day of our meet the voters tour, we rolled through the heartland, kansas city. home of world series baseball and a senate race across the state line in kansas that could
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shake the nation. 46-year-old independent greg orman has made himself into a credible alternative against pat roberts. >> we declare our independence. independence from both political parties. >> he hasn't closed the deal yet with voters. it's a sentiment we heard over and over again at vfw posts. >> in some cases i would like to get rid of all the incumbents. i think that would do more to harm what we have going on. >> i'm of the mentality if they have been there a couple years, they're career petitions. >> you are the -- i'm done with everybody. >> if they don't have the guts to put term limits in, i will do it myself at the voting booth. >> heard your speech. i did not hear specifics, anything about immigration, healthcare, tax reform. >> i think we have spent a lot of time in this campaign defining what we think is wrong with america and what we think we need to do to solve the
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problems. to get to that spot, we have to fix the dysfunction in washington. >> in iowa, another race, the party that wins this race will likely control the u.s. senate next year. republican joni earnst is trying to become the first woman elected to congress there. >> i feel more of a duty as a female. >> a fact not lost on some of the students at iowa state we sat down with. >> a lot of times it's hard for older men to understand what is important to women. >> if you can find the word republican, i will pay you five bucks. i don't see it. that tells you something. it's a reminder of what kind of state this is. >> mother, soldier, conservative. >> she hopes to benefit from the fact her first name isn't congressman. what could be holding her back is some of her very conservative positions, including support for something called personhood which in some cases would grant all unborn human beings with
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equal protections. the personhood thing was a mistake? >> it's not. i do believe in life. i will never say that's a mistake because, again, i am someone who is always going to promote life. >> her opponent is trying to convince voters she's too conservative. millennials could be the difference and the millions of dollars spent on the ad war may not reach them. >> a lot of us aren't watching tv. a lot of us are on our phones and online. >> heading north, wisconsin. four years of a hard core political battle. republican governor scott walker is fighting for his job for the third time in four years. democrat mary burke is hoping voters are worn-out from being the most polarized state in the nation. unfair? >> i think it's fair. unfortunately, but it's not who we are here in wisconsin. >> mary burke is trying to capitalize on that sentiment. former president clinton campaigned with burke the day we talked to her. she's one of the few democrats
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who wants the current president by her side. >> why are you comfortable having president obama here. >> it's going to be tight. turnout is important. i welcome the president here. >> reach out wisconsin, a group bitterly divided over walker, meet every month to move past the washington-style dysfunction. conservatives listening to liberals. >> you understand the person and why they believe that as opposed to just demonizing for the political belief. >> and liberals listening to conservatives. >> make friends with the person you are most afraid to make friends with. >> there you have it. a fascinating way for that man to p end. let me bring in senators chuck shumer from new york, rob portman from ohio. you guys are obviously knee deep in the election. you are part of the nsrt. number two in the leadership. let's start with south dakota -- we will start with iowa, bruce
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braley at 46%, the republican there, at 49%, joni. colorado, a close race. mark udall, 45%. look at this one in kansas. the independent still holding the lead. a month ago a ten-point lead now it's down to one. some surprised in the south, closer races in places going in different directions. north carolina, okay hagan in a dead heat with thom til li s. they believe hagan holds the lead. things are closing in arkansas giving tom cotton just a two-point edge over mark pryor, 45, 43. some people thought this would be put away by now. then there is south dakota. there was chatter that maybe the race was making an unusual result. that's not the case. mike rounds is way out in front, double digit lead there.
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you guys are the ones on the defensive here. we are nine days out. how do you hole the senate? >> i think we will hold the senate. i know all the pundits are days republicans will take the senate, democrats will prove the pundits wrong on election day when we keep the senate. three reasons. first and foremost, economic issues predominate. ebola is in the news, isis is in the news. but the average voter, every poll shows far and away cares most about economic issues. they tend to be for democrats when economic issues like minimum wage, equal pay for women, not sending jobs overseas dominate. we have a better ground game. you can add two to three points -- >> minute number? >> for each of those races, every one of the races. if it's 44, 43, we're probably ahead. third, as the race gets down to the final moments, the voters focus on the two candidates, not on a national referendum. when the two candidates are
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compared, almost inevitably we do better. economic issues, better ground game, better candidates will put us over the top november. >> why is he wrong? why do you believe he's wrong? >> it's not the pundits saying the republicans are going to get the majority, it's the voters. your polls show it. >> it's tight. >> it's tight but the voter intensity is on our side. saw with early voting in iowa, republicans are winning. that's never happened before. all the polls show that this is going to be a good year for republicans. it's a good environment for us. luke talked about the incompetence that some people feel about the obama administration. that's catching up to them. people are asked what do you think about the president. you know what they said? he gets less than 40% approval in all those states. when the president goes on national tv and says, this is about me, these are my policies, all my policies are on the ballot, when he further says,
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all the candidates trying to distance themselves, they vote with me and they want to vote with me, it's a national election. republicans have great candidates. we have the enthusiasm on our side. people are being looking for a change. a change is -- >> i let you go long on the first question. keep it tighter here when we go over these things. why do 51 democrats matter more than 51 republicans? what will matter in the next four years? >> is it does matter. two words, supreme court. >> it's about judges? >> not all. but you asked one reason. supreme court. the money that's cascading into our system. if the supreme court continues to be the way it is and there's a vacancy and they buttress that, we will be subject to these few people just dominating the elections for decades to come. the supreme court on voting rights make a huge difference. the supreme court on women's issues make a huge difference. supreme court. >> what's the real difference for the last two years of the
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obama administration with 51 republican snz getting stuff done. >> really? i just -- there's a lot of skepticism that anything will get done. >> the only way things get done is we change the majority. if you do what we are doing, we will have discuss function that we have now. nothing is getting done. we aren't doing budgets. we aren't helping people get jobs. i had a jobs fair in ohio and ran into people who are working part-time two or three jobs, been out of work for months. >> john kasic claims you are doing well right now. >> washington needs to pass stuff. if you get a republican majority, it wim get the president to the table and we will begin to solve some of these big problems. that's what people want to see. >> i want -- >> number one issue in your polling is the gridlock in washington. if you want to change things, vote for republicans. >> created by republicans in the senate and house. they create gridlock then blame the president for it. >> let me stop you there.
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>> you can -- >> everything we do -- >> hang on. guys. senators. speaking of who is in charge, i want to play you something here about how candidates feel about mitch mcconnell and harry reid. take a listen. >> if you were elected and if he is re-elected, will you support mitch mcconnell as the leader of the republicans in the u.s. senate? >> that was a question or no. my answer is no. >> is harry reid the best person to lead the senate democrats, yes or no? >> i think we can perhaps do better in both parties moving forward. >> i have nearly a dozen democrats -- a dozen democrats who are saying, you know what, i would like somebody else different than harry reid. is harry reid bigger than the majority? greg orman says he will not be with the democrats if mary reed is the senate majority leader. what say you? >> i say that harry reid will run for majority leader and he will win with an overwhelming -- probably very close to a majority vote. >> senator mcconnell, i'm
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hearing the same thing from republicans, he's not out of the woods. he can't put his race away. there are -- greg orman will not sit with the republicans if mitch mcconnell is in charge. is one man bigger than the potential majority for the republican snz. >> no. but i think mitch will win in kentucky. you said that she had disqualified herself, her opponent by saying she wouldn't tell people whether she voted for president obama or not. i think he will -- >> i meant that voters might think that at the time. but to go back -- change in leadership is important. >> i think mitch will win. he will be the leader. >> should he be the leader? >> i think he should. here did. >> the two of them shut down the senate. you done believe that in. >> here is the important point. by changing the majority, having the house and senate working together and working with the president, we can solve problems. the biggest problem is jobs and the economy. we need to give it a shot in the arm. let's do tax reform. let's do something on energy. let's improapprove the keystone pipeline. these things could happen. >> on the issues that matter the most to american people on jobs,
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racing minimum rage, equal pay, stop sending jobs overseas, helping kids pay for college, the republicans have said no on each of those. that why we are going to win the election. that's why if they win, there will be gridlock. >> i have to leave it here. >> we want -- >> the voters here think it's going to be gridlock no matter what. that's your real change there. >> time for change. >> senators, thank you both. is or democracy for sale? what are those billions on th
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we are america and it would be fair to say we do things bigger in this country. that's true when it comes to elections and campaign spending. luke russert is here to talk about this. you have been crunching numbers. this stat is unbelievable. >> remarkably, you could pay for 80 british general election campaigns with what's being spent on this year's midterms alone. there's concern about the roll money is playing in our politics with some even going as far as to argue our democracy is being bought and sold. 16 years ago the 1998 midterms cost $1.6. this year, $4 billion. outside groups spent $15 million
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on the '98. this time it's 67 times higher, over $1 billion. this year it will be just as high. that doesn't count so-called dark money whose sources and donors never have to be disclosed or won't be disclosed until well after the election. in the senate battleground states, outside groups are spending more on adds than campaigns and political parties combined. funding the financial arms race, a group of modern day owe la gashgs. >> on father's day, i was with my family and mitch mcconnell was with his, the coch brothers. >> the coch brothers. >> senate republicans are addicted to coch. >> on the right, charles and david coch, the brothers who run koch industries, the secondest largest largest company, net worth, $41.9 billion each. americans for press period, just one several koch-backed groups has pledged to spend $125
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million. they have offices in more than 30 states. on the left, newcomer tom styer, net worth $1.6 billion. he has donated $58 million in support of candidates can sprong records on climate state. >> extreme. >> he had a wooden arc where he is focusing on retiring rick scott. the koch brothers through outside groups with mundane if not agreeable sounding names like americans for prosperity, freedom partners, concerned veterans for america, and again opportunity are outspend gs him by five to one on ads in the battleground states. in the center, michael bloomberg, net worth $34 billion. he pledged to spend $50 million to support gun control legisla
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