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nerd screen time. the super bowl is hours away. as we promised we'll politicize your snack food. that's right. so what's in your refrigerator and what could it say about where you live and your political leanings? we'll start with what you drink. which fans do you think will be drinking more tonight? well, if you're a patriots fan, and you're in new england, there are going to be a lot of beer at your super bowl party. on average, people in the northeast drink about 6% more beer than the country at large. that said, who do you think
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drinks more beer? liberals or conservatives? well when you split it up by political leaning it is liberals who are 32% more likely to drink beer than conservatives. and their beer of choice? well, liberals are 52% more likely to be drinking one of those craft beers than the average american. so, combine the northeast, liberals and a patriots fan base it is safe to say that today a lot of sam adams is going to be consumed. conservatives, when they do drink beer, they tend to go domestic. and, remember of all the big beer brands an american brand named coors who produced a candidate for the senate. what about snacks? liberals, they tend to lean toward things like pita chips. they eat 30% more than the average american. conservatives, pretzels is what they prefer. and what about those folks that consider themselves middle of the road, or swing voters? i'm not making this up. it is a chex mix.
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that's right. your party mix for your swing voters. there is one snack apparently we all agree on. liberals and conservatives, that is a big bag of corn chips. fritos tostitos. what are your political leanings of the fan bases of the two super bowl teams? well, two republican strategists crunch the consumer data and found out on a liberal to conservative spectrum patriots fans are solidly blue. that shouldn't be a surprise. they're from liberal new england. so you would think the seattle seahawks would be just as blue right? it is seattle, not so fast. don't forget the rest of the northwest is not as blue. the seattle fans tend to be more purple. and teams by the way, with purple fan bases they have done more winning in the super bowl in recent years. think about that vegas. by the way, the most liberal fan base in the nfl, the oakland raiders. and the most conservative? john mccain's arizona cardinals. you had fun with this? you can find out where your team stands and much more about your football snacking and the politicizing of it all on our
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as popular as the game is, the nfl had a rough year off the field. from the ray rice scandal to deflategate, the league has been in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. but none of those controversies seriously threaten the future of the league. what does? football related concussions and brain injuries. with an increasing number of former players becoming seriously ill. it's not just a contact sport it is a collision sport. violent and unforgiving. that explains its popularity and its peril. boston university neurologist ann mckie directs the largest brain bank. >> cte is a neurodegenerative disease that affects individuals who have been exposed to repetitive brain trauma. >> i could go out and hit somebody that hard that could cause me could be concussed or
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perhaps even laid out cold on a football field. >> reporter: leonard marshall has been diagnosed with cte. when did you sit there and go, what's wrong? >> i would forget things. i would forget places. i would have this erratic behavior towards my child for no reason. >> did it scare you? >> scared the daylights out of me. and i started talking to people and i started to figure out i'm not in this by myself. there is other guys like me. >> researchers have discovered the signs of cte in the brains of dozens of former players. dave durdson who committed suicide, jevon belcher who killed his girlfriend before taking his own life and junior seau who killed himself in 2012. this weekend he was voted into the hall of fame. >> the late great junior seau. >> the nfl released new data this week showing a 25% drop in concussions last year in regular season games.
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>> we spend a great deal of time on player health and safety. we want to make this game as safe as possible for them. >> commissioner roger goodell promised to hire a chief medical officer to oversee the nfl's health policies. mckie, a green bay packers fan, says the game needs more fundamental changes. >> i'm concerned about the number of hits. some of those are asymptomatic none concussive hits. to me, looking at the concussion rate really doesn't tell me permanently be taking care of your health care? do you think -- >> i think they should. you told me about everything else, but you didn't tell me about the risk associated with traumatic brain injury. >> do you think they knew then? >> they had to know something. >> you do? >> chuck, they had to know something. >> i think it is bull. >> not all players agree. >> i think when you sign up this is a violent sport that's what we sign up for. you think of a boxer going in the ring saying he doesn't expect to have a problem after boxing. you're getting punched in the head. >> while fans love watching the game, they're beginning to wonder whether it is safe for their kids to play.
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nearly 4 in 10 americans say they would encourage their child to play another sport because of concerns about concussions. we found some of those parents in pine crest, florida, suburb of miami, on the soccer field. >> the reports are kind of scary, but i still want to play. >> i think that it serves a great purpose for a lot of kids. just not my kid. >> participation in youth football has been declining. and this week, researchers from boston university published a study that found former nfl players who started playing football before age 12 had a higher risk of developing cognitive problems than those who began playing later. and even some former players are wary of letting their kids play football. >> i would be real leery of him playing. and that sounds -- in some respects i'm almost glad i don't have a son. >> do you believe football can be safe enough to play in the future? >> i think -- i think it can.
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but i think it is going to take an overwhelming and alarming thing to happen for there to be change. >> i'm joined now from outside of the university of phoenix stadium, site of the super bowl, by demaurice smith executive director of the nfl players association. welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you for having me chuck. >> you just heard in that piece, mostly leonard marshall some other former players brett favre, being concerned about the safety of the game. you represent nearly 2,000 players on any given day as executive director of the nfl players association. do you believe this game is as safe as it can be on the field? >> i don't think we will ever be content that the game is as safe as it can be. chuck when i took this job in 2009, it sounds a little bit like the punchline of a bad joke, but when i took this job in 2009, the head of the nfl concussion committee was a
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rheumatologist. so over the last five years, we revolutionize not only the way in which fans enjoy football, but trying to make the game safer. there are sideline concussion experts for first time. there is limits on the amount of contact for the first time. we have eliminated two a day practices for the first time. and all of those changes didn't come about because the national football league suddenly got an issue of a conscience. all of those things came about because organized labor and our union made decisions that we were going to make the game safer. >> have you done -- do you feel like you've done everything you can? i heard from a lot of players that don't like thursday night football, this don't like those short weeks, that don't like the idea of having an 18-game season and yet you have sort of -- you've agreed to for instance thursday night football being year round. was that a mistake? >> no. and i don't believe that the evidence right now indicates that was any sort of mistake.
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you know, you remember, chuck, we went through this it was a national football league that wanted us to play 18 games. we said, no. the changes that we made in this game i think are always going to evolve. >> let me move on to the personal conduct policy that the nfl has unveiled and i know where you stand on it as far as how it was unveiled. let me go through it and tick through it here. the new personal conduct policy would include league investigations, paid leave if formally charged with a violent crime for any player the nfl's special counsel hands out the initial discipline, a player can appeal that initial discipline but the commissioner would have final say on that discipline. what issue do you have with that proposal? >> well, chuck, it's the process by which the proposal was implemented unilaterally by the national football league. one thing you didn't mention all
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the way through the litany of the issues there is we have a commissioner who has been overturned twice on personal conduct policy, first time he was overturned by the former commissioner, the second time he was overturned by a neutral arbitrator. one thing that is not in that proposal is a neutral arbitrator to hear these appeals. so we have issues with a number of the individual issues, but i honestly believe that we should be working together to make an overall policy fair for both players and owners. >> before i let you go you're a big fan of the washington redskins. where are you on the name change? >> no no. hey, let's -- let's keep it straight pal. i grew up a redskins fan, but i'm a fan of the players now. and -- >> do you think the name should change? >> well i think that for all of the fans who love that team, they love that team because of the art monks and the darrell greens and the sonny jergensons
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and buddy gillmore. we need to sit down with the fans and talk about what we love about that team and if it is in best interests of everybody that we not offend anybody, let's make that change. >> demaurice smith, enjoy the super bowl. >> happy super bowl. >> you got it. in a few minutes, we'll talk to a representative of the nfl. but, first as you saw earlier i sat down with former new york giant leonard marshall, who despite rule changes to the game still doesn't believe professional football is safe enough today. take a listen. would you be comfortable playing under these rules? >> i want it to be safer. they have to do something to take the helmet out of the game, somehow. i don't know what that is. >> and now representing the league, i'm joined by jeff pash general counsel for the nfl. welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you, chuck. i appreciate you having me this morning. >> let me start with that basic question. do you feel as if the game is as
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safe as it can be for the players of today? >> i think the game is safer than it has ever been. and the progress that is being made means it is going to be safer in the future. and i think if you look at what has been done during commissioner goodell's tenure, whether it is in the context of prevebt preventing concussions better equipment and teaching safer tackling techniques, better medical care for the players with the use of independent neurotrauma consultants and negotiated return to play protocol with the nflpa and the research being done in conjunction with the nih, general electric, international sports federation i think there is a tremendous amount of progress being made and i would say to people the game has never been safer. the statistics show that. the fact is that helmet to helmet collisions, which have been the biggest cause of concussions in the past those helmet to helmet contact is down by more than 40%. so we're definitely making progress, but there is more work
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to be done and we want to work with the players and the coaches to continue that culture change and foster that culture of safety. >> some of this culture of safety may go all the way down to youth football. we saw the new york times story about this initial study, preliminary, a very small sample, do you think we should have an age, a floor for tackle football that maybe 12 is the floor. there is a lot of studies that say the brain isn't fully formed until at least 12 years old. >> i think the authors of that study themselves have highlighted some of the questions about it. and it is clear that more work needs to be done. we promoted safe play, whether in the context of tackle, or flag football. and it is, again chuck, let's look at action. through our efforts there are youth concussion laws passed in all 50 states. through work with professional athletic trainer associations we put athletic trainers on the playing fields for thousands of children across the country. that program is going to double for this year. not just football, but all
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sports. we have worked with the consumer product safety commission and its past two chair men to bring safer and newer equipment to youth programs across the country. >> could you envision a day where the nfl says, you kwhat, we support the idea of no tackle football until 12? >> i think you've got to have the facts and you've got to see what the alternatives are. i don't know if that's a practical solution or not. but we support kids getting out and playing, whether it is flag, tackle as safely as possible. that's our goal. >> let's go to the player -- that you released. i just talked to demaurice smith head of the nflpa. and he seems to have less issue with your proposal and more of an issue that it is not being done in a collective bargaining situation. you wouldn't impose drug testing without the nflpa negotiating it. so why are you imposing this without the nflpa in the room? >> we have numerous meetings with the players back as -- as far back as 2007 and over the course of the six or seven years.
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and the personal conduct policy that was implemented in december was implemented only after extensive discussions with the players. so i think there has been a lot of common ground and players want high standards. they want a personal conduct policy that holds them up as the men they are. >> it feels like the beginning of a novel for the nfl, the best of times on the field financially, but it has been a pretty -- the worst of times offer the field this last year. how would you describe this last year for the nfl? a good year, a bad year or a learning experience? >> it was challenging. it was a learning experience. but i think like any strong organization, we have great leadership in our commissioner. we have great leadership from our ownership. and we have great partnership with the nflpa. we accomplished a tremendous amount together. and i'm confident that we'll take the learning we have from this year and we'll have a better game and when we get together to talk a year from now, you'll have seen a lot of positive change.
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>> jeff pash, happy super bowl. enjoy the game. >> thanks, chuck. you too. >> you got it. don't go anywhere. in less than a minute, the 36% of all teachers in the u.s. have been teaching for more than 20 years. what does that mean? do the math. we need more teachers to lead future generations. the more you know.
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welcome back. we know we'll be rolling into the bob costas coverage here soon. we'll talk super bowl with the panel. let's get a little serious. jim cramer you deal with a lot of ceos. roger goodell is a ceo. it has been a tough year for him. as a politician, i can see of him being forced to resign i can see shareholders having demanded his head back if he was dealing with shareholders. how did he survive this? >> he was great for tv deals. that's where the money is. he was a between the lines commissioner where you had to be outside the lines within a 16-game period. he was able to go outside the lines, which was major. i think when he lost espn, he realized he had changed. and he didn't bring in the best minds. i was listening to secretary gates. bringing in the best minds that's what he did. by the last game of the season i think he had it. people knew he was a go-to guy who had changed a lot of people in the nfl. successful season for him. >> it is funny, mark. i think you and i would look at the problems he faced almost like, how would a politician
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have handled this? and even the worst politician would have handled it better than he did. >> without a doubt. teams now understand they have a problem which is the first step in solving it. every problem they have from the off field behavior, outrageous behavior, to questions about cheating, drug use, concussions, every one can be solved without damaging their bottom line of the game. they have to recognize that they put some resources into it. put some pr into it, put some substance into it. and we can all love the nfl without concern? >> it is interesting to me that they have eventually do the right thing. look at what they're doing on doemestic abuse. if they did nothing, everybody would say why aren't you doing this? when they play catch up, they throw a lot of money at the problem. >> absolutely. i think they are doing the right thing both on domestic violence and concussions. it will become the clearinghouse for the latest progressive ideas toward helping to combat domestic and new scientific
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strategies on concussion. it is a win-win at this point. but they looked bad for a long time. >> you're a new mom. you have a daughter. but it is a conversation that my wife and i with our son -- just what is your reaction to the game? >> whether or not -- >> would you feel comfortable? >> i don't know. first of all, i do have a daughter and if she has any athletic skills of her parents, we won't worry too much about this. i think a lot of parents have the soul searching conversations with themselves and the question for the nfl is whether it can do things that preserve the integrity of the game, the fun of the game what people love about football, but also acknowledge that there is a real problem here. for the nfl, the concussion thing is potentially an existential crisis. they have to get out ahead of it. >> lighter note on football, with super bowl media day, i wish we had a political equivalent, right of politics media day. but nobody stole the show like marshawn lynch and it did get us thinking that he kind of reminded us of somebody else. here is a little marshawn on media day, which players are
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required to do as he made it very, very clear based on every single question that was asked of him. >> i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get fined. >> he sort of reminded us of one of my favorite moments from the '90s, here is al gore having to deal with an interesting political problem he had, campaign finance issues, illegally raising money out of the office -- the official office of the vice president. here was al gore and this infamous press conference from 1997. >> according to my count there is no controlling legal authority -- there is no controlling legal authority that says this was any violation of law. no controlling legal authority -- no controlling legal authority. >> just so you know we're bipartisan here. here is republican congressman mike hoffman who was asked to clarify his comments about the
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president not being an american citizen. >> i stand by my statement that i misspoke and i apologize. i stand by my statement that i misspoke and i apologize. i stand by my statement that i misspoke and i apologize. >> is there anything i can ask that you would answer differently? >> i stand by my statement and i misspoke and i apologize. >> who did it better? >> i'm a big fan of lynch. i love what he -- look, i think -- he doesn't want to speak to the media, don't make him, right? >> fair enough. a new definition of beast mode, right? >> there is going to be something on youtube very soon where they sync those words. >> what is it when you -- it can make it into a song, what is that auto tune? shouldn't we be auto tuning marshawn lynch. >> already done. do it with a wink and he did. >> that's all for today. stay tuned, of course, to nbc for -- there is a sporting event that takes place sometime this afternoon. there is a more important event right before it.
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savannah will be interviewing the president live. rare he does live interviews, five-minutes a lot more tomorrow on the "today" show. >> a live interview and sit down and do a longer interview. >> excellent. if it is the sunday after the super bowl, it will be "meet the press." we'll see you next week. allegiance premieres thursday following the blacklist on nbc. >> when i found out my mom was missing, i fought tooth and nail. we searched that entire summer. day and night. i even got hypnotized, once, to try to communicate with my mom, for her to tell me where she was. i did everything i could possibly do. >> reporter: rachael anderson had one great passion. >> she would have had a child every year if she could have. she just loved being a mom so much. >> reporter: and with kids at home, it was extra scary when
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someone started stalking her. >> we were talking late at night, and she got real panicked and she said, "i think there's somebody outside." >> reporter: watching her every move. >> knowing where she's at in her house, which lights were on. >> reporter: making disturbing calls, with a disguised voice. >> it at only a matter of time. >> suddenly rachel disappeared and a desperate search began. >> you can see the vastness and all the various places that you could conceal a body. >> reporter: months went by. the case stalled. then investigators learned that the plot might be bigger and darker than they ever could have guessed. >> this is a very tentlizing thread that comes together. >> absolutely. >> reporter: whispers that rachael was the victim of something out of a hitchcock movie. a moment of pure evil. >> he had a look in his face i had described as satan. >> reporter: and, just maybe, a second woman in the cross hairs. >> if the stories were true, then you had married a stranger. >> exactly. >> reporter: i'm lester holt and this is "dateline".
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here's dennis murphy with "secrets of the snake river". >> reporter: in country so beautiful as the palouse, the wheat and bean fields running up and down the bumps and hollows of eastern washington as far as the eye can see, it's hard to imagine anything bad happening out here. but gaze and listen closely, and sometimes you'll uncover secrets in the shadows. murder and betrayal, as close as the stranger sleeping beside you. here in the city of clarkston, a 40-year-old single mom was raising her two young sons. she also had two older daughters. rachael anderson was her name, just five-foot and a bit, and how susie jeppson enjoyed her company. >> we were just friends the get-go. she was just spunky and fun, and she just loved to laugh. >> reporter: her grown daughters were out of the house.
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amber. >> she was my hero. she was my everything. she just had a really fun spirit about her. >> reporter: ashley. >> she raised us, gave us everything we needed, taught us everything we needed to know. >> reporter: rachael had been married and divorced three times when, by the spring of 2009, a new man had entered the picture. >> she told me that she'd met somebody. they'd gone out on a date and that she was very impressed because he wanted to have a blessing over the food that he -- and she thought that was just wonderful. >> reporter: a publicly christian man with a notorious gangster's last name, charles capone. >> i asked her out for dinner and we went to dinner, and we found each other attractive. >> reporter: what made you laugh about her? >> how she looked at life, everything is to be absorbed. everybody should have a good time. nobody should fight. >> reporter: what was going on in her life? >> i thought she was a brilliant woman. i thought, "oh, this woman's
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focused, got direction, awesome." >> reporter: rachael told her daughters about charles, how devout, kind, and handsome he was, and successful. he owned a busy auto repair shop up the road a ways in moscow, idaho. >> he did service on people's cars for no charge to help, you know, people who didn't have the money in the community. >> reporter: the new couple were soon regulars at sunday worship. and charles found himself with a new business partner. >> she started helping me with the shop. she had that office totally changed around and working more efficiently and saving me money in just a matter of, you know, two months. >> reporter: rachael and charles dove headlong into a whirlwind romance. introduced in may, they eloped in november. the newlyweds made their home at rachael's place, about 30 miles south of charles' auto shop. rachael's, sons 6-year-old gavin and 10-year-old aiden, lived with them. >> we took the kids fishing. they had never been fishing before. she'd throw on camo and go hunting with the guys. >> reporter: but the thrill was gone not more than a month after the wedding. the couple went their separate
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ways. a lonely charles moved into his shop for a while until a friend offered him a place to stay. separated but their lives remained curiously entwined. >> we're talking all the time. we're either getting along or not getting along. we could have one phone call that was, you know, just enjoyable, you know, talking about things that need to be taken care of. and then we have one phone call where we're just -- just going at each other. >> reporter: as winter turned to spring in 2010, rachael and charles did have something to talk about. strange, unsettling things were happening to rachael. she told her friends someone was stalking her. >> we were talking late at night, and she got real panicked and she said, "i think there's somebody outside." >> reporter: and then came a rash of disturbing phone calls. no caller i.d., disguised voices. >> it's funny you don't get it. >> reporter: she gave her friend jennifer norberg the low-down. what kinds of things were going on with her? >> phone calls. distorted voices. >> reporter: creepy movie kind of stuff? >> knowing where she's at in her house, which lights were on. >> not just, i know where you are, i know in the bedroom right
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now? >> um-hmm. i know what time you came home last night and what time you left today. and, just watching her every move. >> it's only a matter of time before we get your cell phone number. >> reporter: charles, meanwhile, told rachael he was getting the same kind of disturbing calls. and in april it got worse. rachael's vehicle was vandalized, more than once. tires slashed, windows broken. charles volunteered to fix her car, even though they were living apart. he gave her a loaner suv to drive. rachael was pretty sure who was behind all the scary nonsense, a guy she'd gone out with a few times and had developed, she thought, an unhealthy thing about her. rachael went to the county sheriff's office and told her story to captain dan hally. >> she was extremely frightened. she believed an individual that she had dated for a couple weeks, by the name of william slemp -- he was the one stalking and harassing her. >> reporter: so when rachael left that day, what was the plan?
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>> she was going to essentially put together the information that she had, and then we were going to meet again that friday. >> reporter: did you see her again, captain? >> i talked to her on the phone, but i never saw her again. >> reporter: not long after leaving the sheriff's office, rachael applied for a restraining order against william slemp. it was the weekend. the two boys had visitation with their dads. it wasn't until mid-morning the following monday that people began to realize that something had gone very wrong. rachael's daughter amber got a message that her mom hadn't shown up for work as a medical technician. totally unlike her. >> yeah. i knew immediately that it was bad. amber got word to sister ashley, and they raced to their mom's home. when there was no answer at the door they called the police. captain hally dispatched his lead detective jackie nichols. >> there was several people in the front yard, rachael's daughters, and they were frantic. >> i searched the house looking for any types of evidence. >> reporter: nothing, huh?
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>> no. >> the last time i seen her, she said that, "i think this will end in my death." >> where was racael anderson? a search of about to set off a string of alarm bells. when we return the first ominous clues. >> it vehicle was left unlocked with her purse in plain sight with the keys in plain sight. >> what woman leaves her purse behind? >> it was a bad sign. hey! guess what day it is?? >>hump day! hummmp daaay! it's hump day! >>yeah! >>hey mike! mike mike mike mike mike! >>mike mike mike mike mike. hey! he knows! hey! guess what day it is! hey! camel! guess what day it is! >>it's not even wednesday. let it go, phil. if you're a camel, you put up with this all the time. it's what you do. (sigh) if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ok... everyone loves how they feel in dark clothes. and to keep those darks from fading there's woolite darks. it's free of harsh ingredients to help keep dark clothes vibrant for
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>> reporter: rachael anderson's loved ones were filled with dread when she failed to turn up for her job as a medical technician that monday morning in 2010.
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>> she would have never left her children. she would not have left her sons, not for a minute, not for a day. >> reporter: investigators had a few bare facts to work with. they knew rachael had canceled that friday meeting with asotin county sheriff's captain dan haley about the stalking incidents. detectives could find no atm or cell phone activity since a voicemail rachael left at 8:09 friday night. that meant rachael had been off the grid nearly three days. >> i knew there was something very, very wrong. >> reporter: you'd swung into action? >> i had about 1,000 fliers printed at staples. >> reporter: monday afternoon law enforcement pinged rachael's cell phone and got a weak echo just across the snake river from her home. >> we got a lot of people out into that field. also, used a bloodhound to do a live search.
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>> we were looking in trash bags, and tarps, and under bushes. >> we searched all night. by the time i got home my knees were bloody, and my hands. >> reporter: the search was futile. early the next day, tuesday, captain hally formed a regional missing-person task force. so what's on your white board? what's on your agenda? >> it's william slemp. >> reporter: the former boyfriend. >> yeah. we went down and -- >> other ex-boyfriends, ex-husband. >> family. >> there had been a neighbor that lived across the street from rachael that had some suspicious behavior. he'd asked rachael out on a date and she'd turned him down. and then he left town very abruptly. >> reporter: i mean that's certainly suspect. is he involved? >> well -- and we're checking hospitals, travel information. we checked every bus ticket that was sold that weekend. >> reporter: an early lead may have come when rachael talked to sheriff's captain dan hally the week before. she told him that day she was terrified of the slemp guy messing with her. but the captain had a different stalking suspect in mind after rachael told him she was divorcing charles.
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so an early stop for it is groundhog day. coming up on "earlyday," the northeast braces for another winter wallop. this same storm slammed chicago with up to 15 inches of snow closing schools and forcing the cancellation of more than 2,000 flights. super bowl stunner. a super comeback for the patriots and getting heat for giving up a touchdown. plus a gun-wielding toddler wounds both his parents. "american sniper" sets a super bowl winner and the advertiser winners and losers from last night's game. it is monday february 2nd. "early today" starts right now. good morning, everybody. i'm betty nguyen. thanks so much for joining us today. here we go again. a wicked snowstorm slamming parts of the u.s. right now the northeast facing snow sleet and

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