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you've already done 15 deals in 3 1/2 months? >> yes, i have, and i'm very surprised at myself. >> what have you been able to accomplish so far, mike? >> we've done seven deals in about two months, and it's been great. >> so what would you say to viewers? why should they come on down and attend one of these free events? >> it will change your life. just do it. >> hello, everyone. i'm rachelle mccray. it's my pleasure now to introduce you all to the stars of a&e's number-one real-estate show, "flipping vegas," scott and amie yancey. scott and amie, thank you so much for taking a break from your show to be with us today. >> hey, we're happy to be here. >> we're really excited to be here. >> like millions of other viewers, i love your show, "flipping vegas," on the a&e network. and i'm assuming a big network like a&e wouldn't run so many episodes of your show unless the market was red hot, right? >> exactly. >> so, why is right now such an exciting time to profit from real estate? >> well, when the real-estate
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market bottomed out, of course there were great opportunities to pick up properties for a fraction of the previous value, but it was challenging to flip them because banks really weren't lending to a majority of the buyers, so even if you had the cash, got an incredible deal on a property, there were really few buyers that could actually get financing that you could sell it to. >> but now prices are steadily on the rise, and banks are lending more, and people are starting to get back on their feet. >> yeah, definitely. the market is becoming very active again. we're definitely experiencing what is called a recovery. and this has created a whole new wave of real-estate opportunities all over the country. >> we just flipped this house behind us, another one on the same street, and one right around the corner. we are profiting from more deals now than ever before. that's how crazy it is. >> yeah, and we're not talking about just the fix-and-flip type of deals that you see us do on our show. we're talking about quick flips where you're in and out of these deals so fast that you never even lift a hammer or touch a paintbrush. >> wow. that sounds exciting. but many of our viewers may not know the first thing about real
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estate, so how can they start profiting from these deals? >> well, they just need to come to one of our free events. most of the people that attend our events have never done a real-estate deal in their life, but it's okay. we teach from the ground up how to get started and profit on their very first deal. >> we've also done this long enough to know that people who are watching may be thinking, "well, that's great. they'll teach me how to do it, but i don't have the money or the credit to be a real-estate investor." >> well, guess what -- neither did i when i got started. i used no cash of my own, no credit of my own, and i made over $2.3 million my first year out on my own as a full-time real-estate investor. >> that's incredible. >> it is incredible. and what's really cool, when i started using scott's strategies, i made $186,000 on my first deal. i went on to make $200,000 on my second deal, all without using any of our own cash or credit. >> now, of course, not every student that comes to our events makes millions their first year. most students just start off with one or two smaller deals while keeping their full-time
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job, and they build momentum from there. >> so tell us, then, how can the average person watching right now start doing this if they have no investment capital or credit? >> well, the same way we got our start and still do many of our deals today -- by using our money partners. >> we call them our strategic-funding partners. we find the deals, they put up the money, and we flip them. >> hold on. you're telling me that all of our viewers that come to one of your free events will have the opportunity to work with your funding partners? >> absolutely. >> all of you watching, when you come to one of our free events, our team will show you how to find the best deals in your area, how to do the deals, and you'll learn how to get access to $750,000 of preapproved funding so you can actually start doing deals right now. >> scott and amie and their money partners have already been doing this all over the u.s. with people just like you. in fact, at one of their recent events in another city, students from all over the country gathered to share their success stories, and we sent our
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reporter, angela scott, there to get a firsthand look at their extraordinary results. >> hey, everyone! i'm angela scott. in addition to my background in news and reporting, i'm also a licensed real-estate agent. and i have to tell you, in all my years in real estate, i have never seen anything quite as exciting as what's going on right now in these events. by providing people with the knowledge and the money to do deals, scott and amie and their money partners have opened up the real-estate world to everyone. people with no real-estate experience who normally would have never had the chance or the money to get into real estate are doing it. >> jeanie, what was the most exciting thing that you discovered when you got to the free event? >> i think the most exciting thing is that there's so many different ways to make money in real estate, and many of them, you don't have to use your own money, and a lot of them, you don't have to do any labor, like in rehabs. >> now, i understand that you're fairly new at this, but i also understand that you have some deals already under your belt?
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>> yes, i've completed five deals in the first 2 1/2 months. >> that is impressive. warner and ann, you're fairly new to the program, but i understand that you've already had some great accomplishments. can you tell me about that? >> we were able to complete five deals in nine weeks. >> five deals in nine weeks -- you heard that right. sherry and paul, what motivated you to attend the free event? >> well, we were looking for a way to generate income in our retirement years, and we thought real-estate investing would be an excellent opportunity to do that. >> so how many deals have you done? >> well, we actually did nine deals in nine weeks. >> unbelievable. nine weeks? did you ever think you could have this success in just such a short amount of time? >> things have happened a lot faster than i guess we first envisioned, but we're very pleased about that. >> coming up, i have so many more success stories i want to share with you. but first, here's how to reserve a table for you and a guest to attend one of scott and amie's
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free lunch or dinner events coming to your area. >> announcer: get ready in your local area for an opportunity to profit from real estate like you've never seen before. the rebounding real-estate market in the u.s. is getting hot, creating a whole new wave of real-estate opportunities. in fact, the average financial gain for a flip recently has been over $45,000. and scott and amie yancey, the stars of a&e's hit tv show "flipping vegas," have identified more than 700 properties in your local area that are primed to be flipped right now for incredible profits. and they're hosting free lunch and dinner events to provide you access to the training, the support, and the money you need to start profiting from them. when you arrive at one of scott and amie's exclusive free events, you'll learn how to access the hottest properties in your area before they're made available to the general public. and because you'll be working directly with scott and amie's
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team, their strategic funding partners have given preapproval for you to use $750,000 of their money to do your deals so you don't have to use any of your own cash or credit. you'll learn how to quick flip each deal for incredible profits, without you ever lifting a hammer or touching a paintbrush. and you'll even learn how to use some of your profits to start acquiring cash-flowing rental properties that could provide you with an amazing monthly income. whether you have money you'd like to invest and grow or are starting with none of your own cash or credit like scott and amie did, by attending one of their free lunch or dinner events, you can learn how to start profiting from real estate right now, right in your local area. call now to reserve a table for you and a guest to attend one of scott and amie's free lunch or dinner events being held at several convenient locations in and around your local area. please see the event dates that are listed on your screen. when you call, your operator
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will provide you with a complete list of available times and locations. make your free reservation right now. and when you attend, you'll even receive a free copy of scott and amie's brand-new book, a free quick-start disc set to help accelerate your success, and a free digital camera to take photos of your first property, so you can enter them to win scott and amie's "show us your 1st deal" photo challenge. there's no strings attached and no catches. all these gifts are yours, free, just for attending one of scott and amie's free live events. and listen to this. the first 50 people will even receive a free tablet computer. seating is limited, as scott and amie's exclusive live events are typically limited to 100 attendees. so don't miss out on this amazing opportunity. call the toll-free number on your screen and make your free reservation right now. >> you may have never thought about getting involved in real estate. >> or maybe you felt it was out
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of your reach because you don't know anything about it or have much to invest. >> but you need to realize -- at our free event, we provide you access to our training and our money partners' funding, which eliminates those barriers. >> listen to how quickly our new students are getting started and how many deals they are doing. >> so, guido and kat, did you have any real-estate investing experience before you actually attended one of these free events? >> no, none whatsoever. that was a completely new world to us. >> that was a new world. so what have you been able to accomplish so far? >> we have been able to close on two deals within a short two-month time period. >> so, dale and kim, i understand that you had a pretty exciting goal in mind when you came to one of the free events. >> sure did. i was looking to get out of my present job, looking for a change. >> so, looking for a change, how many deals have you done? >> we've done four deals so far. >> four deals so far. tammy, i understand that you're fairly new to this, but you've already had a lot of success. >> yes, we've done eight deals
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in a little over two months. >> unbelievable. so what would you say has been your favorite part about this opportunity? >> i think, how simple it was, and that i work full-time and i don't have a lot of spare time at all to do this, and i tried it on my own with not much success and spent hours and hours and hours. and it's been so simple using this program. >> so, what would you say to those viewers at home that are maybe working 40, 50 hours a week, and they say, "i literally don't have an extra hour in my day"? >> check out this program. i don't have an extra hour in my day, and i've done eight deals so far and looking forward to more. >> scott and amie, your free events, they sound incredible. you both have made amazing money doing real-estate deals all around the country, and now, of course, you have the number-one real-estate show on the a&e network, "flipping vegas," and that follows you around as you continue to make money on even more deals. you are very successful, and you're obviously very busy. so i have to ask you -- what inspired you to start hosting these free events?
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>> well, it was actually a couple things. first of all, we get thousands of e-mails from our viewers, e-mails from people who see our tv show and want us to teach them how to profit from real estate where they live. >> and we would never have enough hours in a day to help everyone individually, so we started kicking around the idea of doing live events so we could help more people at one time. >> and at the same time, we also knew our funding partners were really happy working with us and were looking to fund even more deals. >> so we came up with the perfect solution. we'd host live events to provide students the training and support they need... >> our funding partners would provide preapproved funding for their deals. >> and everyone wins. >> yes. >> well, by the number of success stories you're creating and the number of deals your students are doing right out of the gates, i'd say your solution is clearly working. this sounds like a win-win situation for everyone. but this is such a unique opportunity, something that i've never seen before. so, do you find that some people might be a little skeptical at first?
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>> yeah, they can be at first, but it's just because of what they've experienced in the past is all. in fact, at some of our events, we ask everyone, "how many of you have ever seen other real-estate programs that promise that you could make money using no cash or credit of your own?" >> just about everybody in the room raises their hand, but few, if any of them, have actually done a deal. >> yeah, and it's because those other real-estate programs just teach the concepts of how to profit in real estate with none of your own cash or credit. but what we do differently is we give you support and the access to the cash that you actually need to go out there and start doing deals. >> you may be thinking this sounds too good to be true, but here's the facts. our money partners have already funded more than $205 million worth of deals for new students. >> our free events are providing people who never thought they could get involved with real estate with direct access to the training and the money they need to do an amazing amount of deals very quickly. >> so, paul and leona, i
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understand that you didn't have a lot of money to invest before you came to the free event. >> no, we didn't. >> but that didn't stop you. >> no, it didn't. there was money partners that were available for us to be able to make deals. >> and how long did it take to do your first deal? >> five weeks. >> unbelievable. and since then, how many deals have you done? >> we've done six. >> six deals -- not having money to invest up front. i mean, that is unbelievable to me. >> so, terry, what was going on in your life before you attended the free event? >> before i went to the free event, i was actually out of work. i'd lost my job. i think it was two or three months prior to that. and i was looking for something else to do to replace my job. >> so you replaced the job, and what have you been able to accomplish in that time? >> since then, i've, uh... made 13 different deals, all in less than four months' time. >> 13 deals -- 4 months' time -- unbelievable. now, did you have real-estate experience before this? >> no, i didn't. i didn't have any, other than buying my own house.
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>> well, i have to say, this sounds like an incredible opportunity. you're making me want to come to one of your free events and learn how to start profiting from real estate myself. >> and you should. you'd love it. and here's what's really exciting. flipping is just the beginning of what you learn, because we teach alof our students to use some of their profits from flipping to buy and hold rental properties that create monthly cash flow. >> because unlike flips that just pay you once, cash-flow properties can supply you with that long-term monthly income we all want. >> so, bettie, what brought you to the free event? >> well, i was looking for an opportunity to have passive income so that i could retire in a few years. >> and what have you been able to accomplish thus far? >> so far, i've purchased some rental homes and have income on a monthly basis, a positive income. it's been great. >> okay, i have to ask. how many deals have you done?
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>> i've purchased three homes. >> three homes. and how long did that take? >> about 2, 2 1/2 months from the time i first came to an event. >> 2 1/2 months. i mean, 75 days to have three deals done already. that is incredible. >> it's wonderful. and to see the checks come in every month is exciting. >> so, fred, what were you looking to achieve when you attended the free event? >> you know, i was looking for independence -- financial independence. and i come from the corporate world, so i do a lot of traveling overseas, working 7:00 to 7:00. this is my opportunity to really get some independence of my time and financial. >> so let's talk financial. how successful have you been? >> within three months, i purchased three properties that are turning positive cash flow. >> i know there are people sitting right there at home saying, "i am stuck in this corporate world. i want independence just like fred." what would you tell them about the free event? >> i would strongly encourage them to go. it's a great learning experience. real estate is really the way to go. >> you heard it right here. real estate is the way to go. financial freedom and independence.
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>> announcer: get ready in your local area for an opportunity to profit from real estate like you've never seen before. the rebounding real-estate market in the u.s. is getting hot, creating a whole new wave of real-estate opportunities. in fact, the average financial gain for a flip recently has been over $45,000. and scott and amie yancey, the stars of a&e's hit tv show "flipping vegas," have identified more than 700 properties in your local area that are primed to be flipped right now for incredible profits. and they're hosting free lunch and dinner events to provide you access to the training, the support, and the money you need to start profiting from them. when you arrive at one of scott and amie's exclusive free events, you'll learn how to access the hottest properties in your area before they're made available to the general public. and because you'll be working directly with scott and amie's team, their strategic funding partners have given preapproval
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for you to use $750,000 of their money to do your deals so you don't have to use any of your own cash or credit. you'll learn how to quick flip each deal for incredible profits, without you ever lifting a hammer or touching a paintbrush. and you'll even learn how to use some of your profits to start acquiring cash-flowing rental properties that could provide you with an amazing monthly income. whether you have money you'd like to invest and grow or are starting with none of your own cash or credit like scott and amie did, by attending one of their free lunch or dinner events, you can learn how to start profiting from real estate right now, right in your local area. call now to reserve a table for you and a guest to attend one of scott and amie's free lunch or dinner events being held at several convenient locations in and around your local area. please see the event dates that are listed on your screen. when you call, your operator will provide you with a complete
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list of available times and locations. make your free reservation right now. and when you attend, you'll even receive a free copy of scott and amie's brand-new book, a free quick-start disc set to help accelerate your success, and a free digital camera to take photos of your first property, so you can enter them to win scott and amie's "show us your 1st deal" photo challenge. there's no strings attached and no catches. all these gifts are yours, free, just for attending one of scott and amie's free live events. and listen to this. the first 50 people will even receive a free tablet computer. seating is limited, as scott and amie's exclusive live events are typically limited to 100 attendees. so don't miss out on this amazing opportunity. call the toll-free number on your screen and make your free reservation right now. >> we're getting near the end of this program, so if you haven't already, you need to call in for your free tickets while they're still available.
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>> we're proud to say that we were recently given a nearly-perfect 5-out-of-5-star rating in a survey of over 38,000 people who have attended our events. >> by providing you access to both the training and the funding to deals, we've created an opportunity that never existed before. >> it's allowing literally thousands of people to do their first real-estate deals. >> and we want you to come to our free event and become our next success story. >> eva, what were you looking to achieve when you came to the free event? >> well, i'd been working full-time for about 30 years, and i was looking for a way to make and bring income in, but also more than anything, spend time with my family. i have two beautiful daughters, and so i wanted to spend more time with them. >> well, i understand that you are well on your way to doing this. >> i've been very blessed. and two months after the event, i have been able to purchase three properties. and the event -- just being at the event, the energy, the way they teach the material, it makes it so easy to understand and follow, and you just get
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that confidence. and, so, i went ahead and did it, and i was able to purchase those three properties within two months. >> now, frank, i understand that you came to the free event because you were interested in real estate, and you were also looking to supplement your income and retirement. >> that's quite correct. >> that is great, because i'm sure there are a lot of you at home that would love to supplement your income. now, how many deals have you done? >> so far, i've done nine deals. >> nine deals. when you came to the free event, did you have any experience in real estate? >> nothing other than purchasing our family residence. i saw it as a good investment vehicle. i'm looking to retire. and i was wanting some extra income and also the opportunity to gain financial freedom and spend time doing things i enjoy. >> yeah, that's exciting. now, maryann, i know you're fairly new to this. what have you been able to accomplish so far? >> well, since we've started, in two months, we were able to acquire two deals, and we're
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working on our third. >> scott and amie, your events are creating such amazing success stories. and i'm sure, by now, all of our viewers are excited to come to one of your free events and start doing this for themselves. so i have to ask you -- are you sure there's enough good property deals available for everyone to join in and start doing this with you? >> absolutely. at the event, everyone will get a crystal-clear picture of the real-estate market recovery we're experiencing right now and all the opportunities it presents. >> values are on the rise, and the market's getting very active again. there are literally millions of dollars in potential profits out there just waiting for those who want to learn how to go out and get it. >> that's right. the average financial gain for a flip recently has been over $45,000. imagine what flipping just one property right now could do for you and your family. >> and with the preapproved funding we're making available to our students through our money partners, everyone watching right now has an opportunity to use real estate to create profits from basically
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nothing. none of their own cash or credit is needed, so anyone really can do this. >> and it doesn't require any previous real-estate experience or real-estate license or anything like that? >> no, not at all. >> jim, did you have any prior real-estate investment experience before you attended the free event? >> i had no prior experience before i attended the event at all. >> no experience -- well, i understand that you have jumped in wholeheartedly. >> yeah, i actually have done four deals in less than two months. >> ann marie, let me make sure i have this straight. after attending the free event, you've already done 15 deals in 3 1/2 months? >> yes, i have, and i'm very surprised at myself. >> what have you been able to accomplish so far, mike? >> we've done seven deals in about two months, and it's been great. >> so what would you say to viewers? why should they come on down and attend one of these free events? >> it will change your life. just do it. >> announcer: get ready in your local area for an opportunity to profit from real estate like
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you've never seen before. the rebounding real-estate market in the u.s. is getting hot, creating a whole new wave of real-estate opportunities. in fact, the average financial gain for a flip recently has been over $45,000. and scott and amie yancey, the stars of a&e's hit tv show "flipping vegas," have identified more than 700 properties in your local area that are primed to be flipped right now for incredible profits. and they're hosting free lunch and dinner events to provide you access to the training, the support, and the money you need to start profiting from them. when you arrive at one of scott and amie's exclusive free events, you'll learn how to access the hottest properties in your area before they're made available to the general public. and because you'll be working directly with scott and amie's team, their strategic funding partners have given preapproval for you to use $750,000 of their money to do your deals so you
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don't have to use any of your own cash or credit. you'll learn how to quick flip each deal for incredible profits, without you ever lifting a hammer or touching a paintbrush. and you'll even learn how to use some of your profits to start acquiring cash-flowing rental properties that could provide you with an amazing monthly income. whether you have money you'd like to invest and grow or are starting with none of your own cash or credit like scott and amie did, by attending one of their free lunch or dinner events, you can learn how to start profiting from real estate right now, right in your local area. call now to reserve a table for you and a guest to attend one of scott and amie's free lunch or dinner events being held at several convenient locations in and around your local area. please see the event dates that are listed on your screen. when you call, your operator will provide you with a complete list of available times and locations. make your free reservation right now. and when you attend, you'll even
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receive a free copy of scott and amie's brand-new book, a free quick-start disc set to help accelerate your success, and a free digital camera to take photos of your first property, so you can enter them to win scott and amie's "show us your 1st deal" photo challenge. there's no strings attached and no catches. all these gifts are yours, free, just for attending one of scott and amie's free live events. and listen to this. the first 50 people will even receive a free tablet computer. >> unfortunately, we're just about out of time, so you have to call in right now to make your free reservation. honestly, i have never seen an opportunity like this, and i'm a licensed real-estate agent in addition to being a reporter, so i'm very dialed in to what's going on in this industry. and the success stories i've heard today -- i mean, they're amazing, and they're real and documented. they're not paid actors. they're real people just like you. many of them were struggling.
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some of them were almost ready to give up. but scott and amie made them realize that financial success was within their reach and they just needed to try something new to make it a reality. now it's your turn. you may never have thought about profiting from real estate before, but this is your chance, and scott and amie's events are free, so you have nothing to lose. go ahead. take that first step towards a much brighter future for you and your family. pick up the phone right now and make a reservation for you and a guest to attend one of scott and amie's free lunch or dinner events coming to your area. >> announcer: there's only seconds left before this tv program is over, so pick up the phone and call in right now. seating is limited, as scott and amie's exclusive live events are typically limited to 100 attendees. so don't miss out on this amazing opportunity. call the toll-free number on your screen and make your free reservation right now. the preceding was a
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what happened here in little owego, new york, in august 2007 was almost unbelievable. cal harris, convicted of killing his wife, michele, was about to be sent away for 25 to life and suddenly it all blew up right in d.a. jerry keane's face. >> i came into the courtroom thinking the defendant was going to be sentenced and it ended up more my being on trial. >> reporter: who on earth had the power to make this happen? he did, kevin tubbs. >> i know she was there, okay? i know she was. >> reporter: kevin tubbs, a
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plain spoken rough hewn farm worker back then was hauling hay. why was he so important? because after six years during which tubbs swore he barely registered the fuss over the harris case, he picked up the paper and saw the story of cal's conviction and -- >> i seen that and, you know, i started like recalling, you know -- thinking like oh, my god. >> reporter: just like that, he suddenly knew, he said, that what he saw the morning after 9/11, the morning michele harris disappeared was important. it was between 5:30 and 6:00 in the morning, he said. he was hauling a load of hay. >> as i was going by the harris property, there was a blond woman out there and a young gentleman, you know, in his early 20s. >> reporter: standing by a pickup truck. >> my lights were right on them. >> reporter: and hardly more than ten feet away, he said, he looked straight at the young man. saw he was dark haired, muscular
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and visibly angry. >> he looks at me like this, like what do you want? >> reporter: and the woman? she was looking down. >> just by her face, looked like she was crying. she was either upset or wasted. >> reporter: the woman, he said, he was certain of it, was michele harris. >> i know it was her. >> reporter: was it true? if kevin tubbs really did see michele on the early morning hours of september 12th, then the prosecutor's case was in ruins. because cal harris couldn't have murdered her some seven hours before and an innocent man had just been convicted. and so the judge tossed out the verdict, called for another trial and sent cal home to his kids. many, including michele's family, thought tubbs story was bogus. >> everybody knew he was lying. it was the most bizarre story that you could have ever told. >> reporter: and of course, when trial number two opened in 2009,
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the prosecution attacked tubbs' credibility. why did he wait six years to come forward? still for the defense, tubbs was pure gold, the man to create reasonable doubt. >> there simply isn't enough evidence to convict cal harris of murder. >> reporter: bill easton was one of cal's attorneys. >> there's not an eyewitness to it, not an ear witness to it. he didn't confess to it. none of this direct evidence is present in this case. >> reporter: the prosecution argued that cal showed how unfeeling he was by failing to join the search for michele. that was nonsense, said his aunt merry. cal was simply trying to keep it all together for his small children. >> there were dozens, maybe hundreds of experts scouring the area, looking for her. and there was one person taking care of these four kids. >> reporter: that alleged motive that cal was worried the dealerships would take a hit because of the divorce? not so said cal's side.
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his lawyer told him michele couldn't touch the business. and that anyway, before she vanished, michele had decided to accept cal's settlement offer, $740,000. >> she had indicated to numerous people she was happy with the settlement. >> reporter: besides, said aunt merry -- >> there's plenty of money to go around and no amount of money would have made cal say a ha, you know, for $2 million, i'm just going to wipe her out. >> reporter: then there was the blood, the spatter in the kitchen alcove. could have been a cut finger, said the defense. anyway, nobody could tell when it was left there. as for the prosecution's claim that cal tried to wash away blood on the garage floor -- >> there's a small amount of diluted blood that was found days after the new york state police had walked through this particular area of the house while they were conducting the search. >> reporter: walking on it is not going to droi the blood cells.
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>> it could dilute it if their boots were wet. >> reporter: finally the defense decided jurors needed to hear from cal harris as a caring father not as the menacing husband the state made him out to be. the defendant took the stand. >> it was nerve-racking at first. obviously my life is on the line and my kids are -- you know, their lives are on the line. >> reporter: he admitted to an affair, blamed himself for the end of the marriage. but denied threatening her or trying to control michele. if anything, he said, she had been living a wild life, staying out all hours just before she disappeared. >> she came and went as she pleased. she had money to spend. i wasn't tracking her down. the baby-sitters were here. the nannies were here. she was off doing whatever she was doing. i don't even know what she was doing. >> reporter: was it enough? the jury deliberated for almost two days. and it wasn't. guilty again. >> takes your breath away. you know, it's like getting
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stabbed in the stomach. just -- i'm numb, you know. i had already been through it once. >> reporter: family and friends stepped in, took care of his small kids who began a weekly ritual visiting dad in prison. taylor, the eldest. >> you go and get to see him for two hours a week and you've got a bunch of other people talking and it's loud. and you can't really have a private conversation. that was definitely the hardest part for us. i mean, he held it together well but -- >> reporter: what was it like driving home? >> quiet. >> reporter: watching his kids walk away week after week, said cal, was unimaginably hard. >> that was the worst. i went back to my cell and just laid there for hours and hours and just closed my eyes and tried to block it out. >> reporter: three years rolled by. but then came a day in october, 2012, when cal harris found himself crying for joy in the
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prison yard. coming up -- >> it's rare, though. i mean, this is really rare for that to happen. >> yeah. >> a new chance at freedom, new urgency from the kids. >> it's time for the truth. >> and a whole new theory of the case. >> it's all coming together. >> it's time to look elsewhere. >> trial number three, when "dateline" continues. get ready to show your roots with roots touch-up from nice'n easy. seamlessly blends with leading shades, even salon shades in just 10 minutes. no roots. no grays. just the most shade choices for natural looking color as real as you are. so go ahead, show the world your roots with america's #1 root touch-up.
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had cal harris won the lottery, it could hardly be as surprising as the news he heard in the prison yard in 2012. >> reporter: this is rare, though. i mean this is really rare for that to happen. >> yeah. >> reporter: what happened? new york's court of appeals overturned his second murder conviction, citing errors made by the judge and ordered trial number three. while everyone waited for that, cal once again went home to the house on empire lake and his four growing children. tanner, the youngest, was in eighth grade then. the rest were in high school. >> that was great. >> reporter: what a change, huh? >> back to normal. it was easy. >> reporter: yeah? >> yeah. >> reporter: didn't take long to adjust? >> he had to adjust to what our plans were. >> reporter: well, you'd been coping on your own for so long. >> yeah.
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>> reporter: this time, this third chance, the kids were determined this would be different. >> we want you to know our dad will not be taken away from us again for a crime we know he did not commit. >> reporter: it was a very public coming out. cayla addressed the cameras. the rest of the kids and their teary-eyed dad stood by. >> we cannot sit here in silence and watch another travesty of justice take place. >> reporter: this was march 2014. the family was helping launch a tip line, asking the public to help find out what really happened to michele. >> it's time for the truth. it's time for a real investigation that will get us answers. i think that it was a good thing for us to finally come out and talk about it. >> reporter: how did it feel to do it? >> good. >> it was shaky, but -- >> reporter: nervous before, great after? >> yeah. kind of relieved after. >> reporter: you have the floor, sir. >> we all knew this was our time to come out and give our side and
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everything else as they searched through every square inch of cal's life and property. according to lead defense attorney, bruce barket. >> they pursued this man for 14 years with scant evidence. evidence that really no prosecutor should bring a case on. and they pursued him relentlessly. >> reporter: without bothering to seriously consider any other suspects, said barket. so the defense scoured the police files for clues and a picture 'merge -- emerged, said the attorney, a disturbing picture of michele's last day. >> perhaps she was trusting and perhaps she shouldn't have been. >> reporter: they went back to witnesses the police had interviewed years before. talked to them and the others that led them to. and that's when they heard a whole new story of michele's last hours on earth. there was also a partial record from earlier trials, they said, which showed the mother of four had been hanging around with an unsavory crowd, co-workers and
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customers from her waitressing job. >> people there that were dealing drugs, making sexual advances. >> reporter: and on the night she vanished after she left her boyfriend's place, they now knew, they said, that michele did not go home because one of those witnesses reported seeing her later that night with another man, a local steelworker. attorney donna aldea. >> on that night at a bar, in a dance club, he actually said. he was there but left the two of them alone and went home. >> reporter: the steelworker was a regular at her restaurant, said the defense, who had told friends he had a sexual relationship with michele. who was this man? according to the defense, he was the very same angry stranger kevin tubbs saw with michele in the early hours of september 12th. >> as i was going by the harris property, there was a blond woman out there and a young gentleman, you know, in his early 20s. >> reporter: tubbs identified
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that man from a photograph. >> his physical appearance, his facial hair, his height, his age and the type of vehicle he drove. >> reporter: tubbs said the man he saw was standing beside a black truck. the steelworker owned a black truck, same kind. >> and it's a new model and it's a chevy. you look everything up and it's all coming together. >> reporter: also, they said, the steelworker gave conflicting accounts of where he was the night michele disappeared and how well he knew her. >> it went from the beginning knowing michele and having gone out with her at one point to not even knowing her name, knowing nothing about her. >> reporter: the defense attorneys were convinced that man played some role in the disappearance of michele harris. now they decided a jury needed to hear it. only it wouldn't be in owego. early on, the team scored a big victory when a judge agreed the third trial should be moved to another county to make sure cal had an impartial jury. >> it was huge.
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it's a difficult motion to win. they're very uncommonly granted. >> reporter: the new trial would be held in tiny schohairie, away from tioga county, where, said the defense, almost everybody knew about cal harris. >> you had a relatively small county where, based on the data that we gathered, the polling showed that something like 97% of the people in tioga county knew cal harris' name, which is more people than know the names of the president of the united states. >> reporter: finally this past february, it began. this time jenna, one of cal's daughters would testify for the family. and this time the defense came on strong, relentlessly chipping away at the prosecution. the blood evidence, for example. this time the state wasn't allowed to suggest, as it had before, that the blood was spilled around the time michele disappeared. >> to have forensic scientists get up and speculate and guess at how old blood was based on
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the color from a photograph is an outrageously unsupported proposition. >> reporter: also out? hearsay testimony from prosecution witnesses who said michele told them that cal threatened her life. >> we don't think they belong in evidence. it's part of the reason the case was unfair the first time, the second time. >> reporter: but then? then the defense attempted to present its evidence about that alternate suspect, the steelworker. and the judge shut them down. the jury would only be allowed to hear the following fact. the man's name, that michele knew him, that kevin tubbs i.d.'d him and that he owned a black truck at the time. no more. why? because it was cal harris on trial. wrong man, his attorneys insisted. >> cal did not deserve to be on trial. and frankly, michele and her family deserve better. we all want to know what happened to her. it's time to look elsewhere. >> reporter: there was a new prosecutor this time around.
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tioga county's kirk martin. he made the same arguments as the previous d.a. saying the evidence pointed to cal harris killing his wife. the trial went on for three months. at the end of april, it finally went to the jury. and four kids and their father suddenly had nothing left to do but wait. >> we said what we want to do when it's all said and done and over with and the good end turns up. >> reporter: wlant to talk about that at all? >> vacation. >> yeah. >> somewhere cool. >> reporter: maybe. maybe not. coming up -- >> i know we're tough enough that we'll get through it. >> you have to be as positive as possible. >> what would happen this time? >> breaking news out of the east schoharie courthouse.
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it was deja vu all over again for cal harris. wait by the courthouse every minute like an hour as 12 men and women weighed the evidence. and one man waited to be told his own fate. freedom or a possible sentence of 25 to life? you know, you have been confident before when you've gone on trial because you have said, i didn't do it and there's no evidence that i did it. so i should be acquitted. and yet you weren't. so how does that impact your thinking now? >> just by what bruce and his team have done in the investigation. it's -- it's really significant. now whether it will be enough, that remains to be seen. but it's got to create some doubt. it has to create some doubt. we didn't have that before. >> his life is on the line. >> reporter: defense attorney aida.
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>> you pray for the best and i hope that the best happens in this case. >> reporter: uncertainty is a way of life for the harris children. never knowing if their father would be convicted again. >> so i think, you know, if things don't go our way, it will definitely, you know, turn all our worlds upside down, but i think we're -- i know we're tough enough that we'll get through it. you definitely don't like to think about that kind of thing. >> reporter: well, this -- you know, it's a daunting thought. and clearly you've had to think about it. if he's found guilty again. >> mm-hmm. >> reporter: how do you deal with it? >> we just spend a lot of time together. that's what we did when he was in jail last time. we'll see him every weekend. we'll have phone calls. we'll have each other. and you just have to try to be as positive as possible. >> not only for us but for him, too, with the whole thing, you know. >> reporter: but of course,
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another family waited by the courthouse, too. michele's family, wanting a very different verdict. nothing they'd heard at trial number three changed the way they felt after trial number two. is there a corner of your brain that thinks, god, maybe it was somebody else? >> not at all. not at all. >> reporter: before two juries had returned their verdicts within hours. four hours the first trial, nine the second. but this time, the hours stretched into days. >> you want a hot dog, right? >> reporter: the defendant and his family did what they could to pass the time. lunching at the hot dog stand outside the courthouse, enjoying what could be their last moments as a family on the outside. four days in, jurors told the judge they were deadlocked. he sent them back to try again. eight days in, still deadlocked. again, they were instructed to keep trying.
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finally, two weeks in, the jurors made it clear they simply could not reach a verdict. >> breaking news out of the schoharie county courthouse, the third cal harris murder trial has been ruled a mistrial by the judge. >> reporter: a mistrial. it was the outcome nobody wanted. >> we got closer to justice, but we're not there yet. we will continue to fight and continue to pursue the truth about what happened to michele. >> reporter: but her family believes they knew the truth, that cal murdered michele. they left the courthouse without comment. >> not right now. >> reporter: tioga county prosecutor kirk martin did address reporters. >> my obligation as a district attorney is to seek justice. >> reporter: he promised a fourth trial. >> there have been two guilty verdicts in this case and i eagerly await the earliest possible trial date that fits with the court's schedule. >> reporter: and so for now, a mystery almost 14 years old endures about a woman who vanished on a warm september
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night while the rest of the world was looking the other way. that's all for now. i'm lester holt. this sunday, the trump effect. when donald trump talks -- >> make america great again. >> -- the rest of the republican field listens. >> with your help, we can make this country great again. >> how donald trump is setting the agenda for the gop campaign. also, hillary fights back. >> i'm not running for my husband's third term and i'm not running for president obama's third term. i'm running for my first term. >> hillary clinton letting joe biden know just how tough it will be for the vice president to jump in. >> the latest polls out of iowa. where things stand this morning will surprise you. where have you gone, scott walker? expected to be a front-runner at this point. he's been lagging in the polls. can he make a om

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