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welcome back. during the campaign, donald trump was unsparing in his criticism of president obama's foreign policy and of the foreign policy establish men, left and right n general. among other things he argued that america's military was hollowed out, that the iran deal was a one-sided disaster for the united states had and that he knew more about isis than the generals. that's where we start part two of our broadcast w donald trump on isis. >> you want to knock the hell out of isis, how. >> i want to take away their wealth. they went into iraq, destabilized the middle east. it was a big mistake. isis is taking or

oil in certain areas of iraq. i say you take away their wealth. knock the hell out of the oil. take back the oil. we take over the oil, which we should have done in the first place. >> that's going to take ground troops. >> that's okay. >> what you are talking about is ground troops. 25,000. >> we are going to circle it. we would have so much money. and what i would do with the money that we make, which would be tremendous, i would take care of the soldiers that were killed, the families of the soldiers that were killed. >> who do you talk to for military advice right now? >> well, i watch the shows. you see a lot of great -- when you watch your show and a lot of the other shows and you have the generals and you have somebody that you like. >> is there a somebody, a go-to for you? every presidential candidate has a go-to. >> two or three. boulton is a tough cookie, knows what he is doing a good job. jacobs. >> ambassador boulton.

this deal with iran, you would have the prisoners back years ago. >> iran would still get money. >> do you believe that? >> no, why is iran getting the money. >> i understand people are critical of the deal. what deal could you come up with that wouldn't give iran money. >> i would have told them up front by the i with a we will never give you back your $150 billion. you are never getting that money back. number two, in order to start negotiations you have to give us back the three prisoners. now it's four. when it started it was three. you don't want them, it will do us psychologically good. but we will make a better deal that's good for you. but i would have told them they are never going to get their money back. they are going to be so powerful. they are going to have nuclear weapons, they are going to take over parts of the world you won't believe. and i think it's going to lead to nuclear

i would say this, the people that negotiated that deal, kerry and his friends, are incompetent at the present time. >> what do you do on day one, though. this is a deal secretary gates didn't like the deal, thought the u.s. wanted the deal too much. >> they begged for it. they should have doubled up the sanctions. >> then he said can't pull out of the deal because of the international ramifications. what do you say to that? pretty wise guy. >> i have heard people say, i'm going to rip up the deal. but that's tough to do. i've taken over bad contracts. i buy contracts where people screwed up and they have bad contracts. >> but you have to abide by it. >> i'm good at looking at contracts even if they are bad. i would polices that contract so tough that they don't have a chance, as bad as the contract is, i would be so tough on that contract. >> so the deal lives in a trump administration, you are just going to be -- >> the deal -- it's hard to say we're ripping u. the problem is by the time i've

they will have already received the $150 billion. do you know if the deal debts rejected they still get the money. >> do you think the middle east would be better today if saddam and gadhafi and assad -- if saddam and gadhafi were there and assad were stronger, do you think it would be safer. >> it's not even a contest. iraq is stronger. don't forget, isis came out of iraq. >> do you like putin's involvement? >> i like that putin is bombing the hell out ofites ice. it's going to be i.c.e. putin has to get rid of autos ice because he doesn't want them in isis. >> why do you trust him and nobody else does? >> i don't trust him. at all. we got the highest ratings on 60 minutes. me and putin. did i get the ratings or did he? it's not a matter of trust. the united states, we've spent $2 trillion in iraq, probably $1 trillion in afghanistan. we are destroyin

here's the problem to what you are saying in syria. we are fighting assad, and we are fighting for people, and helping people that we don't even know who they are. and they may be worse than assad. they may be worse. okay? they may be worse. and if assad -- if assad never happened, if you didn't have a problem in syria, you wouldn't have the migration, you wouldn't be talking about all of these countries with what's going on in europe. and now they are talking about taking 200,000 people that we don't each know who they are and bringing them to the united states? the whole thing is ridiculous. so i'm not justifying putin. but you watch, he will get bogged down there. he will be there. he will spend a fortune. he will be begging to get out. everybody that's gone to the middle east has had nothing but problems. >> let me give you one more issue where you sort of went counter to what is perceived as republican orthodoxy. >> okay, fine. >> on the issue of israel and the palestinians. you said wednesday you wanted to be neutral in that dispute. explain

heard that in the pro-israeli community and thinks oh, he is going to be anti-israel. explain what you mean by knew treel? >> they want me. i'm pro israel. i was head of the israeli day parade a number of years ago. i did a commercial for netanyahu when he was being elected. he asked me to do a commercial for him. i am. i don't want to be -- the hardest thing to do is that in terms of deals, if you are a deal person the ultimate deal is that deal. israel, palestine, are you going to make sit in that probably is the hardest deal to make. people are born with hatred, they are thought hatred. i have to say it's mostly on the one side, not on the other side. but they are thought hatred. i say this, if i'm going to be president i'd rather be in a position -- i will try the best i can, i am a very good deal maker to try and solve that puzzle. you are not going to solve it if you are going to be on one side or

everyone understands them. if i'm going to solve the problem i want to go in with a clean slate. otherwise you are never going to get the cooperation of the other side. >> there you go. donald trump on the various hot spots around the world. huh-uhity, national security is probably the issue you care the most about as a conservative. do you think you know donald trump's foreign policy doctrine at this point? >> i know he is the most unpredictable and interesting interview in the world. if you just watch his interviews you canopies together a foreign policy. but we were talking in the green room, and i believe it to be true. there is a nixonian element, the good nixon, the deal maker, the unpredictable, the willing to go to china when he had spent his entire life campaigning against mao. i think there is a way to understand the russia play as being a repurposing of the least strong among the russian/china adversaries as nixon went at that time to

a friend of mine says tillerson is wonderful. i think general mattis is the great geostrategic thinker. i think he has a great team and i think he is going to work with him. i'm an optimist. >> it's interesting that you bring up nixon. i think nixon is a fascinating parallel to trump because of what he said, eye delogically neutral. nixon would get tucked into conservative causes but could easily veer off into a populous realm just like trump. >> because trump is sort of an empty vessel, the dangerous part is the strong camps in the world are -- putin, the idea of turning over global leadership to russia is worrying. donald trump is echoing the european ethnonationalist line that the far right parties in europe are. his language is not

it's about christians versus isl islam. this eliminationist language that says we are in a war of liberations and embracing that. something george w. bush never did. he is echoing that name christian nationalist line which puts us in a dangerous line when you have this potential israeli ambassador wanting to move the embassy to jerusalem, which could touch off a conflagration in the muslim world. >> i think joey makes a good point. i think if you take a look at the tape, if you see donald trump's first reaction to things, his gut reaction to topics, whether it be planned parenthood or the iran deal it is a much more moderate position. it's only after he has taken that moderate position and somebody gets into his here behind the scenes, who knows which adviser it is on any given topic does he change and did he

of the spectrum. early in the campaign one of the earliest rallies i went to was july in phoenix. he got up on stage and he said this is not a populist position but i think we need to have universal health care because we need to take care of everybody. later on, it became a rallying cry, repeal and replace obama care. he starts out in a moderate position and moves to the right when people get inside of his ear. the question is -- and this is what people have been debating, did donald trump see an opening within the republican party to manipulate them in a way he didn't see with the democratic party and is that why now he is so conservative? >> robin, i want to bring up a point that everybody realizes when it comes to presidents and foreign policy is that don't pay attention to how they campaign on it because whatever the foreign policy issue is during a campaign it usually is the last debate that we're having on foreign policy. we act

major foreign policy challenge -- we probably don't know what the challenge is going to be for trump coming forward. >> he is going to face a challenge immediately when he is in office. >> we don't know what. >> one them would be the islamic state. he ran as you said distancing himself from the george w. bush world view. he ran in part with militaristic language but with a non-interventionist approach. he is going to be tested from day one, does he work with vladimir putin. how does he interact with assad? how does he confront the crisis in syria and isis even though he had so much support from working class americans disgruntleelled by the wars, wearied by them. >> i think we cannot discount how his personal conflicts of interest wipe up influencing his foreign poll see. we diplomat know which banks he is

still running his company and there is a hotel to be built in dubai does that influence his reaction if their government acts in a way we don't know or turkey or other cups. these entanglements become really important. this is a republican strategist to said to me repeatedly, you start to have anything with the trump name on it around the world becoming an instant terrorist target. how do we react to a world in which the name of the president of the united states is plastered all over hot spots around the world. >> in all our history, no one is less predictable. i think the sunday shows, when he starts doing them. any former leader, theresa may, putin, they are going to tune in. president obama was hard to find on the air. i think president trump is going object on the air and people are going to watch because he is so unpredictable. >> he is. i'm going to be curious to see at the end of four years do we ha a

or russia? when we come back, we'll look at president-elect trump's leadership style. right after the break a look at some presidential christmas messages over the decades. here's a taste. >> for over two millennia, christmas has carried the message that god is with us. >> it is indeed a holy season in which to work for good will among men. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. ♪

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holiday break this christmas day to look at an american tradition. the christmas season messages from presidents throughout the years. thankfully this is one tradition that has been immune from partisan politics. and as you will see, it goes back a long way. >> we are joined by simple and universal convictions. >> treating one another with love, and compassion. caring for those on society's margins. >> never too late to touch a life and maybe change the world forever for someone. >> our nation is not one of solemn faces and sad demeanors. >> let us just remember we do have some problems which we will overcome. >> the holidays are, as we've seen here tonight, a time of laughter and children and counting our blessings. >> we americans have always tried to follow a higher light a star, if you will. >> for over two millennia, christmas has carried the message that god is with us. >> it is indeed a holy season in which to work

among men. >> for this is the time of year when most of us try to be better than our everyday selves. >> let us rededicate ourselves to the principles of peace and good will towards men. >> during christmas we celebrate the blessings of the season, and the blessings that surround us every day. >> let's reach out to those who can use a hand. let's summon the spirit togetherness that's always helped to kindle america's shining example to the world. >> good advice for any time of year, but especially during the holiday season. and speaking of, we also want to wish many of our viewers and many members of my own family a happy hanukkah as well. we'll be right back. of proof. victoza lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill, which didn't get me to my goal. victoza® works with your body to lower blood sugar in three ways:

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now's the time for a better moment of proof. ask your doctor about victoza®. welcome back. one thing we can all agree on donald trump was nothing if not a different kind of candidate. brash, unfiltered, willing

to win over the other half. some saw him as a con man, otherwise as a man not afraid to tell it like it is. but never in doubt was that donald was always, always the showman. >> sort of was amused about this excerpt from your playboy interview in 1990. the questioner asked, what does all of this, meaning the yacht, the bronze tower, the casino, what does it really mean to you? and you replied, props for the show. and they said what show is that? and you replied, the show is trump with sold out performances everywhere. >> it has been for a long time. >> are we all part of a show. you know some of the criticisms, are we in a reality show. >> no, this is not a reality, this is the real deal. >> you did smile when i read the show -- because it resonated. >> my life has been an interesting life. i have had a lot of fun. >> people call you a lot of names. some positive, some negative. i w

music man this race, kim kardashian. bif from back to the future. george costanza. p.t. barn up. do you consider any of those a compliment? >> p. development barn up. >> you will take that. >> p. development -- look, people call you names. we need p.d. barn up a little bit bus we have to build up the image of our country, we have to be a cheerleader for our country. we don't have a cheerleader. >> transparency in the white house. will you commit to releasing the names of everybody you meet with as president to the public. >> i would have no problem with it. transparency is a great thing. if merkel wants to come over from germany i'm not looking to embarrass her. if she wants to have a quiet meeting i'm not looking to go wild. i want people to like trump and like this country:r i think having to do with campaign financing everything should be released, should be open. but having to did with that, i want to make a country coming

comfortable. people coming in to our country, business people, 100%. these guy he is get out and almost immediately go to work for a company and have power that they shouldn't have. the lobbyists and the special interests and the donors -- >> no lobbyists will work in the trump administration. you will have a ban? >> i would certainly have a ban, yeah. you can't put a lifetime ban, you you can certainly make it three, four years. >> right now on twitter there is a trending retweet of yours. you retweeted someone from e, whether dulce 216. it says it is better to live one day as a leigh onthan 100 years as a sheep. that's a famous mussolini quote, you retweeted it. did you know it was mussolini. >>. it's okay to know mussolini. he was who he was. it is a very good quote, i saw it. i know wh

what difference does it make whether it's mussolini or somebody else? it's certainly an interesting quote. >> fascist. >> i twitter 14 million people. it is a very interesting quote, and people can talk about it. >> do you want to be associated with a fast fascist? >> no, i want to be associated with interesting quotes. >> this violence on the campaign trail, it's got a lot of people concerned. i guess why won't you go up on stage and ratchet it back? you have used rhetoric about islam hates us, surveillance of certain mosques, calling mix can immigrants rapists. what did you expect? a lot of people say you are reaping what you sew here, that there is so much tension at your rallies is you have used such divisive rhetoric. do you have any regrets? >> the reason there is tension at my rallies is these people are sick and tired of this country being run by incompetent ten people that don't know what they are doing on trade deals where our jobs are being ripped out of our country, chuck, being ripped out. on isi

isis with our military. our military is not being taken care of. we can't each take care offesis. on our vets, who are being treated horribly. the people are angry oochl i'm not saying anything i'm just a messenger. the people are anger that over 12 years the workers in this country haven't had a pay increase. 12 years they haven't had an effective pay increase. >> you will not call for ratcheting back the rhetoric? you will not call for it? >> i haven't said anything. i am just expressing my opinion. what have i said that's wrong. >> why not released the tax returns that are not involved in audit? >> it is a link. i have large tax returns. literally from the floor up to here. >> will you do it before the election? >> i hope so. >> do you pledge to do it? >> sure. when the auditors finish. i've already given my

they show i'm worpgd more than $10 billion by any stretch of the imagination. has tremendous cash, tremendous cash flow. you don't learn much from tax returns. i would love to give my tax returns when i can't until i'm finished with the audit. >> back with the panel, two words, bully pulpit. there is no doubt donald trump is going to redefine this? >> i think he's still going to do rallies. when he wants to push an issue he is going to go and have a rally in mobile, alabama, get 10, 20,000 people come and see him and say look you have got to pass it, congress. look at all the support. >> heavy on the bully. what donald is all about, whether it's the profiles in "vanity fair" or the books written about him it is the politics of resentment. it's the queen's rich guy that wants the manhattan elite to respect him. he loves the aduelation of the crowds. that's the feel of respect he has been missing in his life. yeah, i think he is going object out on

to john kasich. mike pechbs is going to be running the government and he is going to be out making america great again. whatever gets the applause is what he is going to do. >> i am a proud owner of trump the musical.com, i did that in 2015 after my first interview with him because i thought the show man is going to be around for a long time. he said in that first interview. i haven't interviewed him as much as you have, chuck. but he used to go to hear norman vincent peel at marble collegiate. that's where he agree grew up on sunday he is. a showman extraordinary air. i don't think it has politics attached to it but it's going to be interesting. >> every day he wakes up very early. he is consuming television. he has a pile of printouts. doesn't use e-mail. reading stories in the news, foreign policy, dome knick policy, about himself as a marker. he is going through it,

through twitter. this is someone who is constantly engaged. some would say for better, otherwise for worse. >> go go. >> one of the things i think we have to guard against as you just discussed, hue, this sort of entertainment factor there are some elements of authoritarianism in his approach for government. his admiration for putin. these are troubling. we love in a democratic system, small d where america is supposed to be immune from authoritarianism, i think we have to be on guard from allowing ourselves to slip casually into it. >> i'm wondering what kind of west wing he is going to run. it feels -- look, he went through three campaign managers. i wouldn't want to be rhines priebus. >> i think so if it's not going well there will be black sheep, who can i blame for whatever

breeding throughout the country. rhines priebus might be in an uncomfortable position. i would like to others as well, michael flynn and wonder if he is going to be able to maintain the nsa position because there has been so much discontent about him. i think nobody is safe in a trump white house or trump administration -- >> except the kids. >> maybe the kids. >> and jared, right. >> i don't know. >> wow. >> i think when donald trump needs your loyalty he could have, et cetera your loyalty, he cult vats it, touts your loyalty, promises it. but when he doesn't need it anymore he casts you aside. i think we saw that with chris christie who went out on a ledge, ruddie giuliani, and they went out and defended him when nobody else would. and they are not players at all. >> that's spot on. i see that in multiple spheres around the es

bannon in the populous. mike flynn is in the group. you have rhines priebus, the incoming chief of sfaf. there is always a direct line to trump, instead of having an isolated presidency i would expect to see a president who is taking advice and counsel from people outside of his administration. >> that's what's going to be fascinating because you can have a relationship with trump outside of his staff. >> get to him directly on twitter, which is odd for a president. out of the list that rod reeled off. i can tell you the most divisive person in that list with the conspiracy theories is bannon. as long as donald trump maintains someone like steve bannon who ran a all the right website, who white nationalists see as their window, doorway into the administration, as long as that person is in the administration he will never get away from the divisiveness. >> what

away from traps like cutting medicare. i think that's where bannon's intent is at. >> bob gates of our day. invites him to trump tower. bob gates try tillerson. that tells me, a tremendous openness to an argument. maybe it's the last person in the room. i understand your authentic concern, and i think the press needs to be vigilant but i am so much more optimistic than most people are because i believe that tillerson's selection shows us he is tremendously open to argument. developers do this. i talked to bob corker about this. developers are focus and execute people. >> all right. we will pause there. when we come back, some of the shining figures and ground breakers in politics and culture that we lost this year. >> my intention is to box to win a clean fight. but in war, the intention is to kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, and continue killing innocent people. on mars and solar sates

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back now with the panel for the last end game segment of the year. okay. obviously predictions is not the greatest idea for 2016, but let's see

first 100 days headline, joy? >> conflicts of interest royal trump administration. i think it's still going to be the big headline is going to be donald trump and his children's business impacts around the world. huh-uhity. >> huge bipartisan support, trump tie up fant. >> mr. acosta. >> trump keeps test his party with him. >> trump provokes iran. >> provokes iran. >> security experts. >> it's going to be a very busy first 100 days, perhaps a very busy four years. i'd like to thank our panelists for this year in review on trump. foris it's been quite a year on that front. but what about what is happening in the democratic party? where do they ?

with a mainstream pick for party chairman. maybe labor secretary tom perez. and i think we are going to see an ongoing civil war. is this going to be the party of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and progressives or tim ryan and focus on rust belt issues? >> who is the democratic party? they have to find an identity and somebody to rally behind. is it bernie sanders or a new face that we haven't yet seen. >> i don't think it can be bernie sanders because we a as we all know he is not a democratic. >> donald trump is not really a republican. >> good point but because i think because he didn't actually join the party it's going hard for him to exert leadership. i think the democrats are scrambling for a message, for a lead e for an identity. at the moment they don't appear to be well equipped to deal with donald trump or trumpism. >> mr. hewitt. >> joe biden hits the gym and the road on behalf democrats

2020. >> watching president obama, does he be part of these discussions in a vital way or does he go off and paint george w. bush style? >> what we are hearing is president obama is not going to be to able to ride off into the sunset. et cetera going to be cultivating new democratic leaders. >> they have to stick to the party of president obama until they find a heir apparent. we had a little bit of democratic talk there at the en. i would like to wish everyone a merry christmas, a happy hanukkah, happy holidays to all. as we leave you, we do so with some moments with first ladies and the way that many of them celebrated christmas at the white house. remember, next sunday, even on new year's day, no matter what

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