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this sunday, disaster and response. the mayor of san juan, puerto rico, lashes out at the trump administration over recovery efforts. >> we are dieing and you are killing us with the inefficiency. >> president trump hits back. >> the loss of life, it's always tragic, but it's been an incredible -- the results that we've had with respect to loss of life. >> and tweets, they want everything to be done for them. we'll have a report from puerto rico this morning. plus promises, promises. the republicans say their tax plan gives everyone a tax cut, won't favor the wealthy, and won't increase the deficit. >> tax reform will protect low income and middle income households. not the wealthy and
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whether those are promises the administration can actually keep. also, trumpism, trump's trump. the president's base declares victory over the president's candidate in alabama. >> i believe in the second amendment. >> as mr. trump started a revolution he cannot control? my guest, republican bob corker of tennessee who has decided it's time for him to get out of the senate. and in the midst of those nfl protests, i'll talk to one of america's leading social critics, about race, white supremacy, and the legacy of our first african american president. joining me for join sight and analysis are, joy reid. david brooks, columnist for the "new york times." danielle pletka of the american enterprise institute, and msnbc political analysis, charlie psychs. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest
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celebrating it's 70th year. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. when the history of the trump presidency is written we may look back at this week as one of the worst for this president, considering. his secretary of health and human services tom price had to resign over his free spending on charter flights. late efforts to repeal and replace obamacare went belly up without a vote. and it's unclear what it does for the working class and the poor. alabama republicans defy the president by nominations roy moore over mr. trump's pick of the establishment. but the biggest story of all may wind up being what's happening in puerto rico. the mayor of the capitol san juan unloaded to the zas there. >> so i am done being polite, i am not done being politically correct, i am mad as hell. we are dy
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inefficiency. and the bureaucracy. >> president trump responded with a series of tweets yesterday, including this one. such poor leadership ability by the mayor of san juan and others in puerto rico. who are not able to get their workers to help. they want everything to be done for them. when it should be a community effort. 10,000 federal workers now on island doing a fantastic job. tammie lither in, my colleague has mayor cruz if she felt mr. trump was personally attacks her? >> i don't care. he can attack me all he wants. you know, bring it on. i'm here. you know what, if it saves lives because it gets the message in the right place, frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn. >> let's get a reality check here, ron, we have this war of words between the president and mate your
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there. tell us the state of the recovery efforts. >> reporter: hey chuck, we have an argument like this, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle. i suspect that that's the case here in puerto rico. things are not clearly as rosy as the president and the president would have people believe. on the flip side, things are not as dire as the mayor made it sound the other night that the administration in effect it killing people down here. people have died, but making the connection between people dying and lack of aid and food and water here, that's probably a debatable point. but i can tell you this, chuck, i've covered a lot of these storms in the aftermath of these storms. life here is very, very hard. it is bad. there is no question about that, but that is the usual case after a major hurricane like puerto rico experienced with maria. the thing is that we have not seen here is usually 11 days out as we are at this point after maria, you see a lot more
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infrastructure in place. supplies runs down the highway, convoys and military officials, we're not quite seeing that. yesterday one electric line truck and there was no one putting a line back up. so let me set the scene for you and what they are dealing with 95% of the island still in the dark. it is hot, it is still hot here in the tropics, 80s upper 80s with high humidity yesterday it rained all day. conditions here are miserable for people trying to get by day-to-day. that's how they're living down here. hour by hour. there are lines everywhere you see, lines to get gas, food, lines to get water, lines to get cash. lines to get into the grocery store also to the drugstore. they're dealing with lines. people are pend considerable parts of their day standing in line trying to get some need met and in some cases, they get to the point where they are told, there's more no gas. and so you can imagine how frustrating that is just enough to make a grown man or woman cry. so they are desperate down here in many cases. i spoke to a retired police officer, lost
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next door with his parents. they have about a day, maybe two days worth. nobody has come to their neighborhood. >> ron, what is the bigger issue here? supplies or distributing the supplies? >> reporter: it's the distribution. we sat at the port yesterday, there was a lot of activity at the port, they were unloading a barge container after container coming off the barge, but there aren't truckers sitting there waiting for these containers to be connected to their rigs so they can get them out. fema said that it has already distributed 2.5 million liters of water, two million pounds of food, we can't dispute any of that. that port is not -- there's not a convoy of containers leaving that port going out into the communities with all of these relief supplies. a lot of the stuff at the port, now we can tell you this, was not hurricane relief stuff. these are ghoods have been regularly scheduled to come down here, the truckers just can't get here. there's a little bit of silver lining perhaps coming tomorrow, crowley which is one of the big
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a major delivery of fuel tomorrow that is going to be met with applause here. >> ron mott whose been covering all of the recovery efforts in the caribbean, thanks very much. joining me now is the secretary of treasury, steve mnuchin, mr. secretary, welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you for having me here. >> before we get to the tax reform plan. maybe you can clarity a couple of thing as somebody who serves in the president's cabinet. what did he mean by this idea that puerto rico wants everything done for them? what did he mean by that and why does the president seem to be so angry in his tweets this morning? >> we very much appreciate the difficulty of what's going on there. the delawavastation has been ve very diflt. and the president and the entire administration, the entire cabinet are very much focussed on this. i've personally been involved in many aspects of this. i've been working with secretary pe
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you know, we have put a priority to get the hospitals back up and running. we have electricity now to most of the hospitals. i've worked with the federal reserve on cash. you commented on issues with people getting cash and banks. we've literally sent in tens and hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cash making sure we give banks and atms open and we're focussed on food and water and everything else. this is something that is a very big focus of the president and the cabinet. we've been meeting almost daily on this. >> why does the president think puerto rico is not doing enough to help itself? >> i think the federal government's role is working with the local government. and the governor's done a terrific job and we'll continue to work with him. this is something that's a partnership with the federal government, getting resources to the state, so that it can be distributed there. >> okay, you mentioned the governor, but not the mayor.
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she's in a desperate situation. why did he do this? >> i think, as you know, when the president gets attacked, he attacks back. i think the mayor's comments were unfair given what the federal government has done. this is really about the focus should be have you been down there? >> i remember going through hurricane andrew, you still don't have power. any, you know, the president himself tweeted a week after sandy hit, where it's outrageous that power isn't on. people do get frustrated. >> again, i completely understand people's frustration. and this is a very, very difficult situation, i haven't been there, but i've been almost on daily calls, monitoring what's going on with the rest of the cabinet. i think fema's done a terrific job. given a very difficult situation. and we're doing everything we can to get resources to the governor so that they can be distributed. but i understand
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and i can assure you the federal government's doing everything we can. >> does the president -- it seemed as if yesterday his tone changed in puerto rico, does the president regret attacking the mayor and the people of puerto rico? yesterday morning? >> i haven't spoken to the president about that. so i can't comment on it, but i don't think he was attacking the people. he understands that the people are going through a very difficult situation. >> all right. let me move to the tax plan here. i would say the way this was rolled out, it seems as if you're making making promises that if you can keep them all, it would be -- you would get -- it would be like houdini, everybody's going to get a tax cut, deficit won't go up, but the wealthy aren't going to benefit. explain to me the philosophy of this. is everything going to get a tax cut no matter their income level? >> well first of all, i think your characterization of similar to houdini is just not fair. i've been working on tax
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with the president since the campaign, he's been very consistent on what his goals are. his goals are to get it middle income tax cut, goals are to make business taxes competitive. we have one of the highest tax rates in the world. we tax on worldwide income, we have a concept of deferral, this is really a job's act. this is about creating jobs. and we've been completely transparent on the numbers and what this does to the deficit. >> all right. is the working class and the poor going to get a tax cut? >> absolutely. the objective is a middle income tax cut -- >> middle class? >> absolutely. >> wealthy. >> the president's been very consistent, the objective is not to give a income tax cut -- >> you said income tax cut. >> that is true. >> because the estate tax is a tax benefit to the wealthy, correct? >> the estate tax also known as the death tax, okay, we believe that people should pay taxes once and not twice. so i separate the income tax system from the estate tax
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the state tax is so people who have farms and family businesses can continue to pass those on. >> so does anybody pay more? >> again, we'll go through the details. as we have them, we'll have full transparency, but the president's been very clear and i've been clear from the beginning. our objective is not to create tax cuts for the wealthy. our objective is about creating middle income tax cuts. the other thing is to eliminate lots and lots of deductions. and this is subsidizing the states. this will have different impacts. the goal is a lot of this came through the the estate taxes. target the wealthy in blue states. >> not at
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not fair. i would say about tax reform, it hasn't been done in 30 years. we're focussed on changing the system. the system's broken. and most americans understand that the system's broken. they're not happy with the difficulty of filling out tax reforms, it's gotten harder and harder, and under our plan, 95% of americans can fill our their taxes on a giant postcard. think about the beauty of that. in that what the money it saves, the summon saves at the irs and the simplicity of it. >> i have to feed you a quote from senator bob corker. he said they're sugar out on the table, you haven't gone to deal with the spinach part, not a little leaf of spinach was thrown out on the table. i guess you could say the state tax deduction getting rid of that is your form of spinach. what else? what else? i mean, is anybody -- are we going to take seriously the fiscal issues of this country with this tax reform plan? because right now you look at bob corker, they say this is going tol
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>> well first of all, i've had the opportunity to speak to senator corker in person and lots of others and i went through the math with him. and the math i went through with him is on a static basis, our plan will increase the deficit by a trillion and a half. having said that, okay, you have to look at the economic impact. there's 500 billion, that's the difference between policy and baseline, that takes it down to a trillion dollars, and there's $2 trillion of growth. with our plan, we pay down the deficit by a trillion dollars and we think that's very fiscally responsible. >> for what it's worth, there has been no study that has been able to somehow reinforce this idea that tax cuts do translate to economic growth. the one time it did was when we went down from 90% with kennedy down and got rid of that tax hike, but where is the analysis here? i know you guys scrubbed one from the treasury department on one having to do with corporate tax cuts. where is the analysis? >> as soon as the details are out, this will be sc
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of different academics. we're happy to put plenty of economists on this show who support our plan, and will go through the numbers with you. so this is, this will be fully transparent to the american public. and they understand that. this is about creating $10 trillion of gdp. this is over $2 trillion of additional revenues to the government. and this is jobs. millions and millions of jobs. americans understand, we have a broken tax system, and this is about making us competitive and bringing back jobs. >> i want to go back, you are willing to have the president sign a tax reform bill that increases the deficit? >> not on a dynamic basis. so just to be clear, we fundamentally believe that there are actions in the tax code that create economic growth. so no, the president is not going to sign something that he believes is going to increase the deficit. but that's, that's different -- >> debate on -- and probably be
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a debate about what those numbers mean. you acknowledge the fact that not everybody's going to agree. >> there should be a healthy debate on those numbers. that's why we have full transparency on what the numbers will be. >> again, i can't comment on he resigned. what i will say is appropriate, i think the american public deserved to know how their money is being spent and that it's being spent carefully. >> do you regret making the requests you made for government aircraft whether it was to go to kentucky? i know there's an inspector general on that one, or the question you made, which i know ended up with withdrawn at the time, do you regret doing that? >> i don't and let me tell you why. first of all, all of our travel went through the same process as previous secretary us of the treasury. every single one of my trips was approved by the white house. and the only time i've ever used or would use a private plane for government purposes, if either there was a national security issue or weouldn't get somewhere. and that's what this is t.
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plane was a mistake? >> no, i never said it was a mistake, it was approved by the white house and there were reason why is we needed to use that plane that are completely justifiable and we look forward to the ig report. >> okay. secretary mnuchin, appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. insurgent roy moore's primary win over ruther strange was big news this week. yes, that also happened this week. and what happened in alabama may not stay in alabama. senator bob corker won his last race by 25 points. it he decided not to seek reelection, i sat down with him and the hearing room. he thaeds committee, and i asked him about moore's victory and if he is getting out because the senate is increasingly looking a lot more like roy moore and a lot less like bob corker. why the is governing wing in the republican party especially when i think about yourself or mitch mcconnell or paul ryan, why do you feel as if it's your wing that is taking the ire of
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>> well, i mean, by the way, each of us are three different individuals -- >> no doubt, but you know what i mean here. but you guys have all operated within the spates of you try to pass what you can. >> yeah. um, look, again, if you look at washington for some time has not really been able to address, i think, the needs of people in our country. there are so many people in our country who have envisioned their life being different than it is today. so many of the people, hard working tennesseans and other are not at the state in life they thought they'd be after they felt doing all the right things in life, working hard, maybe a high school education, maybe went to community college for a couple of years, raised their families, worked hard, and they find themselves just from a standard of living situation not where they thought -- there's a lot, there's a lot going on. a lot of rhetor
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this, unfortunate rhetoric, but look, let me just say, i wake up every day and kwhchuck, it's a tremendous privilege for me to do what i do. we're sitting in the foreign relations hearing room and it's such a privilege for me to do what i do. >> you said something about the president right after charlottesville, you were -- you questioned whether there was a competency and a stability of the office of the presidency at that time. do you still feel that way? >> i'm not trying to be critical, but some of the words have been left out. what i said is he has not yet demonstrated some of the competence and some of the stability that might have been reversed, but not yet demonstrated and we need for him to be successful. i mean, the country need -- the world needs for him to be successful. look, i stand by those comments and, you know -- >> you stand by them today? meaning you still feel this way? >> look, i think that general kelly has brought in
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discipline as far as how the white house operates. i think they did a great job with texas and florida during the hurricane. very professional. i thought it took a lot of courage of the president by the president to change his long held position about afghanistan. so i'm seeing changes, but i made the comment, i stand by the comments i made at the time. i don't make comments like that without thinking about them. you know i know. >> i know you didn't do it lightly. that's why it was a big deal. >> i chose the words. i stand by the words, when i met with the president -- >> what'd he say to you? >> it was kind of humorous. it was. i mean, we spent about five minutes on this topic. >> he remembers any slight, doesn't he? >> he remembered, he said you called me incompetent, i said, mr. president, i knew it was coming, i said here is what i said, and i stand by these comments. okay. i stand by what i said. but the press said you said --
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mr. president, here is what i said, do you want know read it again? you know, in five minutes, we moved on to the other topic. >> you know with, something struck me when i think about this interview, when you were elected in 2006 and you took office in 2007, we had troops based in afghanistan. and when you leave office in 2019 -- >> yep. >> we're going to have troops in afghanistan. >> yep. >> when your successor contemplates a second or third term in the united states senate from tennessee, are we still going to have troops based in afghanistan? >> the entire gdp of afghanistan cannot support even their security forces. i'm talking about their own security forces. the likelihood of us having troops there, some level of troops, now, you know, what matters, chuck, is what are they doing? okay. what are those troops doing? but are we likely have troops in afghanistan for the next decade, sure. >> two
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looked at your early ads, big proposer of the balance budget. >> i'm a deficit hawk. >> when this tax cut plan, whatever tends up looking like at the end of the day, if it -- if the analysis says it's going to blow a hole in the deficit, first of all, what is a hole to you? any additional dollar to the deficit, # 100 billion, where are you on this? >> so, i'm willing to accept the realities of where we are, and that is that we have a policy base in other words, taxes, kind of like the dot fix, you know, we kept making up the fact that this was going to change. i'm willing to accept current policy, number one, i think that's rational. and i'm willing to accept a reasonable score on dynamic growth. a reasonable score on dynamic growth. joint tax does those, other groups that do it, but if it looks like to me, chuck, we're adding one penny to the deficit, i
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okay. i'm sorry. it is the greatest threat to our nation. the greatest throat our nation. it's like, chuck, we've entered a party atmosphere here, everybody was a fiscal hawk, kind of, not really, but kind of up until the election, now it's, now it's like there's a party going on up here. okay. heck with revenue, heck with the, you know, constraining spending, so yes, i will remain a deficit hawk until i leave here. and i'm looking so forward to this tax reform debate because the one thing that hadn't been discussed is the $4 trillion in base broadeners that have to occur for this to be successful. and every lobbyist in the world is going to be up here fighting those. >> it's amazing in retirement how much democrats are coming up saying they're going to miss you. >> i told people if i knew they were going to say so many nice things about me, i would have retired earlier. i mean, it's deny wonderful. and look, i hope, i think i
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the next 15 months than i've had in the last ten years. >> free agent. >> well, i just think the issues. i mean, the first, first two years of a presidency is when most of the activity takes place. we're going to be playing a lead role in iran here in a few weeks. tax reform, and i look forward to working with all of my colleagues here to make good things happen. >> senator, i know i'm going to have you on again before you leave, but thanks for talking to me today. >> thanks a lot. >> corker also told me economic pressure has not worked in north korea and we're going to end up with a binary choice. he's concerned we've cornered ourselves there. you can see the entire interview on the website. it's too much to say puerto rico is president trump's katrina. remember all of president obama's alleged katrinas. how much could the administration's response hurt the pres ♪ (music plays throughout) ♪
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welcome back, david krooks, joy reid, danielle pletka and charlie sykes. author of the book how the right lost its mind. the book jacket. a red hat. what does that mean there, charlie? >> you just like hats. >> i've got to start with puerto rico, the president is tweeting again this morning on puerto rico. somewhat toned down, we have done a great job with the almost impossible situation in puerto rico outside of the fake news or politically-motivated ingrates, people are now starting to recognize the amazing work that's been done by fema. and our great military. all buildings are inspected for safety. thank you to the governor and all of those working so closely with our first responders. you tweeted when the president went on the tweet storm in the morning against san juan he was sending talking points to his base. that that was the purpose of
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no more. >> it was kind a dog whistle. never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity. no, so maybe you just have a president who lacks the self-control who just lashes out at any criticism. but, on the other hand, he did it in the context of a president who never wants to take responsibility. and what you had yesterday, you had 18 tweets in 11 hours. where you saw thin-skinned finger pointing, anger, you saw that kind of -- you saw that kind of, you know, trumpian, don't blame me, look at those other people who are incompetent down there. very much the anti-harry truman. that was a signal to his base and fan boys out there. but on the other hand, he's donald trump. he can't contain himself. >> joy, here's what erick erickson wrote yesterday. he goes, it should matter to all of us that the president is willing to get in the mud and fight back when they need our imp thi and compassion. sometimes the president does not
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does not need to be defended. >> donald trump is just being himself. right? he's channelling his base. he's talking to them, but he's channelling them. before donald trump started tweeting, some of the more prominent members of his base were calling the mayor worse than that. saying she's a murderer and she belongs in jail. he's getting these signals and sharing them because he shares their view. it is interesting that donald trump's reflex is to say that a woman, a woman of color, you know, is an ingrate or to attack her or say the people of puerto rico essentially are too lazy to help themselves. want something from the federal government they won't provide to themselves. he went on the tweet storm which is the most he had talked about puerto rico at all. a year to the day after he attacked the former miss universe, donald trump has a particular reflex to attack women, to attack women of color, and to signal boost to his base this idea that people of color are lazy, independent, and won't do for themselves. he
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>> david brooks, a lot of people see a pattern here. she, we forgot the gold star dad, happened to be muslim. this is an nbc news special report. we come to you with breaking news out of las vegas where we have reports of multiple people possibly being shot during the harvest festival on the las vegas strip. they're investigating the active shooter. our nbc affiliate in las vegas knbc has been reporting. we're going to joe fryer who is in the four season tower which is near mandole bay where all of this happened at 10:30 p.m. eastern tim
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there, joe? >> reporter: good morning. we are inside one of the hotels. this is the viewpoint above the las vegas strip. typically this is a bustling area any time of day or night. out there is where this concert was taking place where a number of people heard reports and saw gunfire taking place. right now it is quiet. there are no ore cars. you satisfy police cars and ambulances that are going up and down the las vegas boulevard during the past hour, hour and a half. this is mckeern airport. the main airport inside of las vegas. it has been quiet and it's located right near mandole bay on the strip where everything has been shut down.
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under lockdown. it's been hard to get any information from here because this is such a fluid situation. you look around, you don't see any people. you see the area where it is dark and quiet. this area has been flooded by police and emergency responders. how many shooters are there? how many people have been injured and shot during this wear. whereby all of the shootings are taking place. we've been told to stay put where we are. at this point, they don't know where this fun fire is coming from. is it coming from high above so they're trying to find out who these shooters are, where they
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we're expecting to get information for the public. we know the hospitals are incredibly busy, they're coming by ambulance, squad car, typical passenger car people taking the injured to hospitals. ambulances and police are ploking off every strip. you can see it as far as traffic goes. obviously bustling with police activity as the continue continues to unfold. >> we are getting reports that the las vegas police is saying they have one suspect down. we do not know it's very, very noisy with the ambulances and
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if you would, tell us what's going on within the hotel. you said they said there's lockdown. have they been going through the hotel? >> we ourselves have not heard anything. officially it's not like anybody haes come over a sound system. we're just calling the front desk and see what kind of protection they're providing. they simply don't know what's happening at this point. we are in the heart of the bay facility. there is another hotel and other facilities inside mandole bay. it's down below where there has been a lot of chaotic activity below this. it's dark now
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tonight it was bustling with a lot of activity. a lot of people have been here at the festival. country music festival. as you were looking out here, you see squad car after squad car driving up and down the scene. seeing them in lines and groups together driving up and down. the vegas sfrtrip, the passenge trying to move them to areas where there's less concern out of a matter of safety. it is police and emergency responders who have flooded the area. >> joe, i'm going to cut in. joe, i don't know if you can hear me. i'm going to cut in. we have steve patterson live on the streets in las vegas. please stand by. steve patterson, can you tell us what the scene is on the strip down there in las vegas? >> reporter: as joe described, quite a chaotic scenes.
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new york, mgm grand right over my shoulder. ambulances and police have completely shut this corner down. looks like one lane of traffic okay. as joe fryer said that it seems safer, at least at this point. as joe said, this is about as quiet as we've heard it. police have completely shut down this corner. what we saw, police in teams with long guns in many kazs heading into hotels and casinos during this ire you. so this is people lit cali coming out with their hands up. we saw that multiple times. not one, not two, three times at least in this location overall. as soon as we got on
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gunfire. one gentleman said he heard what sounded like automatic machine gunfire. there's so much chaos and panic especially when they're heightened and rushing and running throughout the different scenes where we are. as mentioned, quite quiet. police have a lock on this scene. we see multiple people moving. teams of ambulances and structures. we don't know if some of those people were being checked out in a panic. so, again, police have the skeef, ambulances
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ba back. >> steve, we do have reports that the las vegas police is confirming that they have one shooter down and they are asking people to still stay away from the las vegas strip. we know that they've been moved away several times. can you tell us when you're looking at the scene, what kind of movement is going on? do you see s.w.a.t. protections or have they changed it so it's free for this possible other shooter. >> we saw police going into multiple different directions. over here, i want to show you the team. over my left picture is time at tropicana. you see over the ambulances and vehicles and squad cars. back to my back right cor
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saying, it fult like of activity that he's shown on -- with the amount of panic. i'm sure police are confirming all of these they're getting in. so bliss were asked jurt and locked down and quiet we've seen this scene so far. >> steve patterson, going back to joe fryer who is 234 lockdown. you have new details for us? >> yeah. we just want to make it clear to folks, we know this remains a fluid situation from where we're going. squad cars are doing a great job of leering up
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we don't want to give away more information than that. we know police are trying to go through the hotels right now to try to clear the situation, figure out if there are any other shooters. we can tell you the las vegas police have said one suspect is what is dave head down with. we want to keep people out of this area. it is an incredibly dangerous situation. not just on the ground and the treat, but they're working through the massive hotel properties. every one picks up a squalling amount of room, bloor after bloor after bloor. seemingly countness rumored areas. people whok
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everything is so sprawling or you can take over be ready for one of these situations. right now unfor 250u nately that's what they're dealing with. >> we know this happened during the route 91 fest can i have val. it was taking place at the northern village right across from the bay. did you see any security there there? they probably even if it's okay, have they been checking because they don't have security. >> hotel specifically we're not seen anything out of the ordinary. we're here 25
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the mandole pay. the concert was taking place. people at the converts in the las vegas area. mandole seems to be one overlooking the scene behind me. whether any of the shooting actually came from man doe quake it. as far as security goes, nothing unusual. >> if you are looking at the strip, do you have a view of new york? he was saying the teams were noflg to the elephant. >> here, what i'll do is turn it on. obviously it makes it
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you can take a look outside of the windows. if you know the bay, you'll know it's on one edge of the strip. after that you move farr north, after that it's a close and tra deej beginning -- it doesn't mean it's not a dangerous situation. if you look sort of in one area where this concert was taking place, that continues to be where we see the most. >> joe, we actually have somebody -- >> yes. >> joe, i'm sorry to interrupt you. we have an eye witness at the 91 harvest festival. her name is megan carney. megan, can you explain the scene down there. can you tell us
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>> the concert was going on and we heard something like fire kprokers coming off and then all of a sudden people started skriming that they were hit. after that you use round of machine guns. hundreds of bodies all over the ground. >> how long did it seem to go on for? >> i mean, in the moment it felt like forever. probably you heard the round 30 times. one after mayor and we got up and started running. just poking and we were able to go through the service door and hide. that's what we're doing is hide at a nearby
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>> now pu do you think there were? >> think said there were tho,000. there were probably a couple hundred on the ground. >> megan, i'm glad you're safe. this is such a chilling event to go through. is there anything else you remember like from the concert, do you remember security teams being around? do you remember any kind of wrangling going on there or were people just unaware where it was cocking from. >> it sounded like of it it gives us somebody sap sen koert. it's difficult to kind of get a full range.
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echb was in a great move listening to this. this is the one who was sticking on this. do me. it sounds like it was total panic. how did you have the wear with all to run and get out. >> we laid there for a while was highs everybody screaming and then at one point they said to run. everybody was just like, run, run. people were just running. s but at some point you can see rain, run use the bank ler left. >> where were you to be able to escape the fire
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was looking down. >> they were getting shot standing wait next to us. we were by the stauj torge abu without knowing what they should be, you were just lucky if you didn't get hit. have you been able to? have you been able to talk with some of the front-runners to make sure you're okay. we're waiting here. i do have a friend who's husband is an officer. they're pounding everyone to be safe to leem and go follow spain here and waiting it out. >> how m
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running, moll lowing and you you'll get to the. like every other congress gom mer rate didn't could inthe pakt pond. immigrate from all poert. >> do you not that's going to be air a few in sent sufrmt this is an no is surrounding it and how do you exit that venue? >> caves, walls and they'll have exits that you can leave. it's very difficult to get out of there. there's 30,000 people all standing.
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so that was the hard part. >> you said you're now safe -- in a safe place with a group of people. how many people are in your group do you think? >> it was me and my two sisters that ran together. so it was the three that had run. >> megan, there was no prior indication that anything was going on with 23450es reports. the grim mel is nowhere. >> and y'all just thought it was very quiet at first. >> did you see any of the first responders or anybody helping the people that were hit on the floor? >> i'm sorry, we're trying to figure out if we're staying here
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helping people like this. you don't know where the panic is. were people to be on the road and they shocks were still active. some people were trying to save their friends. you know, we just ran. it was still active fire. fun shots everywhere. you don't know. >> thank you, harn any. to know you are faith and we didn't stick to our moments. please stay safe. >> thank you, megan, megan carney at the route 91 musz sick
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we've been told to mock down and stage in place. they don't want people out wandering in the hallways. police are trying to search. a police department has confirmed that one suspect is town at this point. what they doe know and might be able to keep them. they want to keep people who are here already and they want to be safe with the people who are already here and put them sifs in a dangs rouse situation. you can take a look outside of the reflection. we are looking over to las vegas lull be vard, if you know mandole bay, you're looking towards the trip.
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well, we have-nots of different things. right now in this area no one else is allowed to drive in. they're blocking off all the interceptions to keep people from coming into the area. we'll go back a lap and it's across the street kitty kholner music spestive val, snan that's where they saw it you can see there's a got amount of police presence here. as we sort of pan to the right, you can see this is located next to mckeern airport. it it's late at night for mckeern. no flights in or out. you can see the runway is right next to mandole bay and where
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i told him he has to stay in the section fine. police are trying to caulk this down or if there are more dangerous situations from out here. again, we're in one of the hotels that is inside mandolee bug. this has an overview of sim think pet tears hopping. we're going to turn out to jim cavanau cavanaugh. retired ff tf who can cage me teach things before. this is going on two hours where we've seen police trying
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the other shooters. tell us your view of the scene. >> there's multiple witnesses that are talking about the berofd earnin-- i listened to i watched it a few times. at 17 yong fear, it is so machine gunfire. from a fully semi-automatic rifle, 17 gun we call it. machine gun we just carry it. when you listen to it, quickly listen to it. it sounds like some might be emptying
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machine. change there's some semi-automatic fire after that. could be semi-automatic rifle fire after that. >> it doesn't mean necessarily that there's two weers. you have time to analyze it. but you could have son of the ma nudeness for him. that's situation to a sen of that is less vag guess his team. and as you have reported to us, the police confirmed one shooter is down. that might mean a peented o 2k58.
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about them wearing a through i sidal she was. there's a person hob robby twobd it's suspicious from the shooters. they're recording some sort of device or suspicious package. that has to be rendered safe by the bomb squad as well. we have no idea what the motive is, absolutely none. las vegas mass been the target and discussion of international terrorists for more than 20 years. going back to the early al qaeda da days. they ever' spoken of las vegas. it has always been in the cross hairs. las vegas metro police know it
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well. they have known they were a target like big cities are. it's a business gathering place, a target for terrorist. i say that is on the radar and then like las vegas hopes every day are in the mix. of course in this concert as you've reported it, as joe fryer clearly points out, the concert venue is down on the street across from high rise hotels. it's pretty easy to get into a hotel. they could break a window, maybe they have a pass, there are a lot of ways people could
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if they get to a roof and come in with luggage and they use a machine gun firing into the the crowd, you can hear it on the video. this is very serious. i think you'll probably hear more about casualties. someone was shooting a machine gun from an elevated position. nobody seems to have seen the shooter on the ground. there's a lot of chance for a lot of injury there. people flee these things in a hurry. they drop their cell phones. they lose their purses. everybody's calling them. a lot of people are scurrying. a
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loafers. we try to have police corral them. i would say instead of law enforcement what the situation is. they have one shooter down, they haven't said whether he's dead or not. they're rendering the body safe. the perimeter is safe, at least that's the way it looks from here. they are getting multiple reports of other shooters, they'll have to sort that out. >> jim, if i could, i'm going to ask you to hold for a moment. we are going to take a brief pause here. we have some more
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we are covering breaking news where there's still an active shooter on the las vegas scene. this is an nbc news special report. i'm dara brown and we have breaking news out of las vegas where there is an active shooting scene on the las vegas strip. according to las vegas p.d. we have reports that two people are dead, 24 injured and 12 critical. apparently there was an active shooter scene at the route 90 harvest. it happened around 10:30 p.m. las vegas time. knsd has been covering this. we'll be going to them.

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