this sunday, breaking news. rescue workers have begun to pull boys from that flooded cave. we'll have the latest fromnd thain just a moment. also, courtside seat. president trump prepares to announce his supreme court choice. >> you turn in monday at 9:00, i hink you're going to be extremely happy. >> democrats hope to stick together in opposition and win over at leastnne republio defeat the nomination. >> it would be very difficult for me to sport a nominee who did not consider t roe v. wade be settled law. >> it's a fight over the direction of the court for a neration or more. my guest this morning, republican senator, lloyd biathlon of missouri and dick durbin of illinois. plus north korea says the u.s. attitude is deeply regrettable, and accuses the u.s. of a gangster-like demandf denuclearizization. >> if those requests were

gangster-like, the world is a gangster, because there was a unanimous decision at the u.n. security council about what needs to be achieved. >> is this president trump's mission accomplished moment? also, the russia investigation. michael cohen says his family and country have his first loyalty. and a senate committee agrees help mr. a tried to trump win the election. my guest this morning, president trump's lawyer,y rud guiliani. danielle letca of the american enterprise institute. nbc news, senior political editor, mark murray, and susan page, washington bureau chief of "usa today." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." fro i nbc news washington, the longest-running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. boy, do we have a lot to get to. the troubled nuclear talks with

north korea, president trump's upcoming summit ,meetin both with nato and vladimir putin, a one-on-one from ere. i have my interview with mr. guiliani and a lot of russia developments. and the biggest of all of president trump's announcement in the next week, of course, is his pick for the supreme court, which we wi find out tomorrow evening. but we're going begin with a ory that the entire world is watching right now. and that is the rescue attempt to g those 12 boys and a soccer coach out of caves in let me go to bill neely right now in chang rai, thailand where it appears we have a good news ending so far. bill, what can you tell us right now? >> reporter: yeah, good morning, chuck, from a very rainy northern thailand. and just a few minutes ago, the third and fourth of those boys went past here in ambulances. so four of the 13 -- the 12 boys and their coach now in the hospital receiving medical treatment. they came down the jungle path

ambulances. the first two just a few hours ago. and let me bring youight up to date, because as we speak, there is a news conference going on with the rescue commanders. first of all, confirming fourow children are free and in the hospital. they say 90ivers in all took part in this operation. international divers. 40 from thailand. 10 were at the very apex of ts operation. 10 went into the -- really, it's a ledge rather than a cave, where the boys have been trapped for the last two weeks and day. and the way it worked, according to the rescue commander, was that one diver put one boy literally underneath him as they went through the submerged sections of that cave. remember, even now it's possible that there are boys walking or waiting or even diving through this absolutely treacherous cave complex.

so the divers put each of the boys actually beneath them. this has all happened faster than anyone expected. three hours faster. he now says they have used allt oxygen tanks, and they have to resupply those tanks. so this remains an ongoing operation with nine people still utto be got and it is still a very journey, because they are going along what is potentially a death trap. remember, just aew daysago, a highly experiencedha navy diver died, collapsed and died. so still a very dangerous operation for these boys deep down. and the commander launched this operation, saying this is d-day. it's either now or never. there is noetter time. oxygen levels were falling inside that cave. as iaid to you, rain is falling, as well. there was a torrential downpour a couple of hours ago. so there was a red line for the

commander. they couldn't pump the water out fast enough as this rain water fell. so the operation is ongoing. the boys are beingaken out two by two. we expect that ts could be over certainly within 24 hours, and fours bow being treated at the hospital. we don't know what condition they're in, and we don know exactly which boys are out. but an extraordinary operation. >> wow. >> reporter: going on as we speak. chuck? >> bill neely, thanks very much. four resnged. now joi me is republican senator, roy bnt of missouri. he's a member, of course, of the republican leadership team. welcome back to "meet the press". >> hopefully today news for them and their families. >> sometimes it's nice to cover a good new story. let me begin, actually, in asia and north korea and what happened there. mike pompeo was there this weekend, seems like the meetings did not go well. i'm sure there are some people i

thinkingold you so, when it comes to north koreans. you were skeptical. before on here rig when the summit was announced. you were skeptical. the president tweeted -th we hae g to worry about within 24 hours of the summit, 26laays r they're calling the americans gangsters. >> well, you know, yogi bear grew up in st. louis, missouri, and this is dejavu all over again. this is standard operating procedure for three generations now of dictators in nor korea. and i hope we -- at the end come ob success. but i thinky should be surprised by foot-dragging. nobody should be surprised by saying one thing and then ap wrently that's nott maybe they meant to say when they said it. this has troubled now four u.s. presidents and i hope president trump and secretary a pompe more successful than anybody has been up until now. >> let me --hiis the president within hours of meeting with kim jong-un. >> we're going toor denuke

korea. it's going to start immediately. as soon as going to start a process that's going to make a lot of people very happysa and very . >> he's denuking the whole place. i think he's going to start now. they're getting rid of a missile sting site. they're doing so much now. so it's a process and it's really moving rapidly. >> you know, is this the naivety ofir time president. >> i think what you've got to look at here is actions a as long as the actions are continued to keep the economic pressure on north korea, actions ere will speak louder than words. and only those kinds of actions will ultimately bring north korea to the place we would like them to be. >> since the president gave, we gave a lot to the nth koreans. international prestige, that moment.e is it t for the united states to -- they threw a high hard ont at the unitees by calling us gangsters.

is it time for the president to announce, okay, the military exercises of south korea an? back >> well, i thought it was a mistake to give the military exercises up. as you ow, when i was o here the last time, i said the one thing i wouldn't give up would be our presence, certainly, in south korea. i would hate to give up ouro ability act interprogrambly with our south korean allie and the president and the secretary mattis, secretary pompeo have toeconsider that, i would think, at some future time. particularly if these ea negotiations ato be going on for a long time. and that's what you would have to expect from the north koreans is, again, foot-dragging, standard operating procedure, let's see how much world attention we can get. and then at the end of the day, how much ec assistance the north koreans would be able to get. >> so the president stopped the happy talk pus icly? is he n worst enemy here? underselling, underdelivering? >> i think what you've got to look at is actions as oppos to optimism about coming up with a

final solution. i hope the president sticks with the sanctions and continues to work with others in the neighborhood to maintai the sanctions, as well. that means japan. that means south korea. that means china. >> all right. the president has another tricky ommmitg up with another authoritarian figure. this one by the name of vladimir putin. are you nervous, considering how the kim jong-un meeting went, where the president gave a lot more than what was expected, includingid gettingf the military exercises? are you concerned, for instance, he's going to hangrimea to the russians? >> well, i would hope not. i would hope not. i think the russian discussion about crimea, about ukraine generally, particularly the easter part of ukraine, where clearly the russians continue to have military forces there. what's happening in syria a iran, i think it's fine to talk to the russians, but the president shouldtalearly unde that neither the russia nord dictators like kim

jong-un are going to be charmed by anybody. they are very cold-blooded, calculating. putin would be in that category. >> i was just going to say, both kim jong-un and vladimir putin seem to have an idea of what they want t of these summits. does president trump know what he wants?nk >> i te's surrounded himself with a pretty good team. >> does he listen to them? >> i hopeo. pompeo, bolton, mattis, and general kelly all are giving him the right kind of advice. i think he's comfortable with the team he's put around himself for the first time in his presidency, and hopefully that will show up in the w talks. >>t to ask you about seven of your republican colleagues went over tosi r six -- most of them from the appropriations committee. noemocrat was with them. why? >> 'sll, i think the merit to talking. >> this looks like attempt, though, to get rid of sanctions. >> well, hopefully it doesn't work in thatd way. don't think it will work in that way. i think there is nothing wrong with talking to the russians.hi

there's n wrong with the president talking to putin. there's nothing wrong with my colleagues talking to russians. but you have just got to understand who you're talking to.th e are people who run a dictatorial they're people who are -- exerting all the influence they can, everywhere they can. and they don't have many resources, but they're making the most -- >> were you invited to go on that trip and you declined? >> i did not go on that trip, but i was going to be in missri for 4th of july parades and reopening the arch, and had a lot of things alreadydu scd. >> there's a report this morning th your leade in the senate, mitch mcconnell, is recommending to the president of his fourna sts for the supreme court. he believes that raymond kethridge. where are you? >> well, i'm looking to see who the presidentnominates, not trying to anticipate who that might be. i haven't talked to ese ent about this, nor have i

talked to senator mcconnell about it. but i think we can confirm any of the four names being mentioned. there are reasons to look in both the pennsylvania -- the pennsylvania and the michigan nominee. >> do you -- that's kethrich and hardeman. think they'll all be -- they're good judges. i think they would be fine justices of the supreme court. i do think the president has to think about who is easiest to get confirmed here. and i expect we'll do that on sort of a normal timetable of a couple of months. >> your colleague, lindsey graham here last week said he believes roe is essentially settled law. he believes in precedent and wants to see a nominee who also believes in precedent. where are you on this? >> i think these judges, which are the ones nominated, should follow the ginsburg strategy, which is no hence, no foretelling -- >> it's the 21st century. i think the american people

should know. no? >> you don't think the notorious rbg standard is good enough? >>hihat's --is the 21st century, where we expect everything -- >> i think we t expect judges judge the case that comes up before them. i'm not a lawyer. this is maybe aretty good month not to be a lawntr. but prece is important, but it's not the only thing. we have had bad precedents that were reversed after decades. >> that's notrt a nons for you. >> what is not a nonstarter? >> the idea that if somebody doesn't believe there that -- >> i think judges need to look at the case. the court needs to look at the case and the facts of the case. >> senator roy blunt, we haveavo it there. >> good to be with you. >> thank you for coming on and sharing your views.e joiningow from the other side of the aisle and from the state next door in chicago is democ ttic whip, number two in the senate, dick durbino llinois. senator durbin, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks, chuck. >> got the illinois rival with me right here. let me start with the supreme

court. mitch mcconnell has said he would like to see it go in the direction of either thomas hardeman or raymond kethrich, believing they would be less controversial than the other two. what's your assessment of that, sir? >> before i getnt that, hearts and prayers are with those boys in thailand,rapped in the cave. i hope our hearts and prayers are also with thousands of children, toddlers and infants removed from their parents by the trump administration under zero tolerance. they're trapped in a bureaucratic cave too. so let's not forget them. but to your question, all of these nominees have been precleared by something called the federalist society. this is a group that l carefully at each one of the eominees to make certain they can check all of oxes. when it comes to the most conservative political agenda in america. so whoever is nominated by the president, i was told by the white house, they'll come off that list. leonard leo, the leader of this

group, is the one who made the key decision. >> so what is the democratic party strategy in the senate? you have -- you can do the math. you know you have 49 democratic senators. first, let me ask youhis. is everybody going to be united? >> i can't say tha until the president announces his nominee. obviously, eac senator understands this is an historic decision. it will decide the future of this court f a generation or more. and so i know they'll look carefull at each nominee. i can't predict how all of my 49 or 48 colleagues in the senate on the democratic side will. vo i will tell you, though, simple math tells you, if john mccain bst, it's a 50-49 senate. one republican senator can decide the fate of any supreme court nominee. >> in 2016 -- i'm going to play a quote of yours. bout ptember of 2016, that -- the other supreme court vacancy that we were dealing with back then. here's what u said. >> in a few weeks, the supreme court will start its new term with eight justices.

we need nine. major legal questions are hanging in because the court is deadlocked on 4-4 votes. >> there's beenmo some talk some of your colleagues for democrats to push for a delay untilfter the election. obviously, you didn't like that in 2016. wherere you on this? >> well, i asked senator mcconnell when kennedy made his announcement when he was going to be consistent. he said during the course of the vacancy, at th end of the obama presidency, let's wait and let the people decide in anec on. many of his colleagues came to the floor on the republican side and said the people of this country are going to vote. they'll decide the future of the supreme court.ed i a senator mcconnell, are you going to use the same standard this go-round. and viously, he is not. the net result of that, of course, is that we are going to move forward quickly to fill the vacancy, ands i think i pretty clear senator mcconnell was seizing the moment. stopping obama from filling the vacancy with an extraordinarily -- >> i understand at, but where e you on this now? do you want it delayed? i understand you want to point

out hypocrisy on mcconnell's side. but there's hypocrisy on your side on th, o, right? do you think -- if it was wrong to delay, in 20 it wrong to delay now? . >> well, come on, chuck. get real. senator mcconnell inadjuvanted this new ule and wouldn't consider a meeting with merritt garland and now says we have to hurry through dnd get thise before the election. totally inconsistent. the net result is he's trying to play to his political advantage. >> what did you guys do wrong in the merritt garland situation? if you could redo it, how would you redo it? >> i'm not sure we could have panged it. when it reached tnt where the senate republican leader refused to even meet with the nominee of president obama, a man extremely well qualified, it was clearhat the fix was in. they were going to keep thiste van hopes they could put a republican in the white house, it happened. now neil gorsuch, chosen b the

federalist society as well, has gone to the bench, is voting in lockstep on the republican conservative side. and they want to fill this vacancy to give them an advantage in any >> i've got to ask you, though, now going backwards even before gaand. let's g to the harry reid decision back in 2013, when you decided tocrap it for everything but the supreme court. the filibuster.re there predictions this would be slippery slope, and here we go. in hindsht, mistake? >> i think at thatime harry reid faced an impossible decision. the republicans announced they would not fl thed.c. circuit court of appeals, which is a econd only to , the supreme court in its importance. they were facing all of tse filibusters day after day, jurist after jurist, and harry reid mone this deci he did make an exemption for the supreme court, which mitch mcconnell swept away. chuck, let mh.tell you, tho we look at this decision in general terms and talk about th. proc but let's get down to the heart of it.

this supreme court is going t decide whether or not people and families with preexisting conditns can have access to affordable health insurance. that's it. it's real. and i constitutional challenge by the trump administration this court will face. >> right. >> this court will decide the future of women's health care. and the freedom of women to make choices about the future of theiramilies. that is a critical decision this court will face. so beyond theed pre, beyond the gamesmanship, it is a life and death important decision to be made by this court of so many issues. >> and yet you have this political dilemma that stares -- chuck schumer really in the face as two leaders, which is this. stayin united to stop the supreme court pick could cost you red state senators. not fighting itd as h might allow the red state senators to get re-elected and geton democrs inol of the senate. that's your dilemma. >> it is a dilemma in one b respect, not in another. i will tell you, the men and women that i work with on the

mocratic side really take this seriously. they understand it's an historic it's about more than the next election. it's about what country the united states of america is gog to chart as its course in the future on this supreme court. i think each and every one oak them that seriously, that personally. it goes beyond the next election. >> all right. and final question. you brought up the issue of trying to reunify these kids with their parents. the migrants at the border. tcourt -- the trump administration iing to buy more time. the court doesn't look like they're going to give them that more time. what's the recourse, though? if the court says, younow,o, you're not living up to this commitment, it's not like you can put hhs inailr something. what is the actual recourse? >> i can tell you this. what we see in this process forcibly removing children from their parents at the border, and then putting them at drift on a bureaucratic sea where they can't even find them -- if you take a child into aospital for treatment, the first thing they

do is strap a bracelet on the wrist to make sure theyloren't in the hospital. it is a convergence of cruelty and incompetencies that brings s us to t moment. and now it's up to a judge, a federal judge in san diego,o enforce his order this tuesday so that childrenofnder the age are reunited. >> how do you enforce it with the administration saying we only have so many resources? >> i can tell you, they have the resources to get it done. chuck, this is n an accident. this is a policy of deterretoe top future flow, to be mean to these kids and their families, to say to others, don't even try it. and that to me is cruel it's not what america is all about. >> senator dick durbin, i have to leave it f there, democram illinois. senator, thanks for coming on and sharing your views. ch appreciated. >> thanks. by the way, nbc news will provide live coverage of president trums supreme court announcement tomorrow evening at 9:00 eastern, 6:00 pc.m. on the west coast. later on the broadcast, we'll talk to president trump's lawyer, rudy guiliani.

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welcome back. panel is here. eugenerobinson, the bureau chief of "usa today," susan page, danielle pletka, and mark murray. welcomall. let's start with supreme court. what we're learning this morning is that the senate republicans ulve a preference. they prefer less of a fight. raymond kehledge. thomas hardiman. susan page, those who are two mitch mcconnell prefers, essentially, iskavanaugoo much of a paper trail, andmy barrett would spark a culture war. >> he is associated with the last republican pre,

right, with george w. bush. who knewat would be a liability with the next republican president? the argument for barrettis the same for and against. she'd spark a culture war. some republicans think i'd be great. the question is, will president trump think that, as well? she's 46 years old. that's an asset. name her to the court, she's could be there four decades. >> eugene robinson, let me put up -- each f these has a conservative concern about them. sort of, a susan mentioned with brett kavanaugh, it is the bush connections. one called him the low-energy jeb bush .pi kethledge, i think, is b calledn opder zealot. barrett is the culture war. is that good oree bad? it conservatives have a way of killing any of >> what are they suppose -- what are they looking for? an iron-clad guarantee, in

seiting, that we will uphold the entire cative agenda, as you see it, by the way. not as other conservatives might see it. i think if conservatives take a breath and look at the candidates, they'd see, they're all really conservative, as far as we know.s as far can tell from anything they've written. there's nothing i've seen pointed out in any of their writings that indicates they're closet liberals. when judges get to the supreme court, guess what? they take their job seriously and actually look at the cases. sometiey don't decide in a way that their prior idealogical leanings would indicate. >> mark murray, thomas hardiman, ge over, has an advan all of the others with president trump, for one reason. >> yeah. >> his relationship with the president's sister. explain. >> yeah. those relationships do matter, particular we wiitlypresident trump. the argument also for thomas hardiman is he doesn't have the paper trail. to me, the biggest question

about the supreme court pick is who ends up ha pressure on them? is it someone like susan collins d republican senator lisa murkowski, or is it the joe manchin, democrat of west the hardiman and kethledge are not big paper trails, more jurists, and the pressures would probably be op the donnellys and manchins. barrett, it could be pressure on colli and murkowski. >> the president, i suspect, doesn't really care whether it is a win or a fight. he wants somebody who he can sit down and have a beer with. isn't that what the reportrdg said yes? >> that's not amy barrett, apparently. we're told it didn't go well? >> i have no understanding of why it might not have gone well nt what the presis asking each of these individual nominees.

i think he said the right thing. they're all conservatives. they've all kwa they're all qualified people. the fact someone has a paper trail shouldn't bdiskwaul f disqualifying. they're serious about the law. >> eugene, what kind of fight do they neeut up in order to make this a voting issue? it seems it's never be voting issue for the left the way it is for the right. e suprem't know court is ever going to be a voting issue for the left as it is for the right. unless and until roe v. wade is overturned. then it might be. roe is really what sparked, i think, the conservative -- not obsession, because it is real, emt the conservative focus on the sucourt. >> yeah. >> the fact that that is a voting issue for so many conservatives. then other issues hang off of that. i think re v. wade is the central trunk of that tree.

i don't think it's going to get there unless something happens to e. i think they do need to fight because the base expects them to fight. even people who are now going to y'vote, t excited, they want to see a fight. >> they want somebody to cli thetatue of liberty. >> isn't part of the problem here that the democrats are stuck in the last decade? they want this. they're tryi to make this a fight about roe v. wade and nortion. that what this is going to be about at the end of the day. what's interesting to me is that the courtsave become so important in the last few years because congress stopped doing anything, because the executive branch was under siege by obama and trump. it surprises me the democrats don't want to get to the 21st century and recognize the power of the courts. >> ts is a good thingor republicans in the short term. this is going to help them with turnout. either way, they'll have a big

fight. republicans and conservatives both on e court. watch out what you wish for over the long term. if you are credited with overturning roe v. wade, or with accepting a lot of new state restrictions on abortion rights -- >> with five men, by the way, doing it, especially ift is not amy barrett, right? >> you could pay a cost with women voters, with millenials who are clear where hiey stand on issue. over the long term, this could be the seeds of problems for the gop down the road. >> this all comes down to winning elections. if the republicans have been ch better in recent elections than democratsave been, you ask, you know, senator durbin, what was the biggestmistake democrats made with merrick garland? it was get iting mitch mcconnel to take over ts ate. democrats held on to a majority, you'd have supreme court justice garland. being able to win in mid-term elections and presidential elections gets you con of the court. >> well said. >> exactly. >> okay.

but, what does joe? donnelly he's the only one of the three that has a democratic base to worry about. >> i'm very much in terms of winning elections being what democrats need to do. they're out of er. they're out of the white house. they're out of control of state legislature. they need to win elections. you let joeel do vote however he has to vote. >> if the choice is -- >> cortez, you know, she would vote her way. she can have her issues. let jonn ly have his and vote his way. >> we have a lot of foreign policy to cover. i can't wait to hear what danielle thinks about what happened in north korea. we'll b back with the russia investigation with russia investigation with president trump'smy mom's pain m

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welcome back. there were two pretty big developments related to the russia investigation that flew under the radar this holidayek the first was the official report from the senate intelligence committee supporting the conclusion three u.s. intelligence agencies, that determined that donald trump was helped by the russians in the 2016 elecon. e other story was the apparent change of heart by president trump's former personal lawyer, michael cohen. cohen once said he'd take a bullet for the president. this wee he toldabc news, quote, to be crystal clear, my wife, my daughter, my son, and this country have my first loyalty. joining me is the president's current lawyer, rudy giuliani. welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you very muchpp to be with you. >> you'd said the fourth of july was basically a deadli of sorts, for you to determine whether or not you'd rnd president trump sit down with

robert mueller. it is now past the fourth of where do we stand? >> well, i think we're pretty much decided where we are. we await the decision of the independent counsel. weom would not rnd an interview for the president unless they can satisfy us, that there's some basis for this investigation. it is our firm belief, and we think nothing contradicts atthi he president did nothing wrong. all the leaking thater gone on, s been no leak of any fact that says the president conspired with anybody in russia. i know from having been on the campaign, there was no contact s,with russio discussion with russians. we've got to see something. i mean, s tething starteis investigation. what we're asking them for is, isunhis the witch that a lot of people think it is, or is there a factual basis for this? you did the big, long counterintelligenceve igation, which seems very, very questionable, with very

bias people who hated trump and wanted to stop him. what did they find? show us something. eller has been at it for 13, 14 months. 1.4 million documents. 29 witnesses. what did he find? is there someby who says there was a meeting where trump ra discussed cons to do this? there'snothing. >> actually, mr. mayor, in the hadic record, and you and i a discussion about one of these, in the public record, we have the president admitting t t he misled the "new york times" on the donald trump jr. statement when it came to his role in the infamous trump tower meeting in june o 2016. you said there's nothing. this is a public record of th president contradicting. i know it is not a crime for the president to lie to us in the media. however, how is that not itself probable cause for mr. mueller to want to question the >> well, because the fact is, also in the public record is the conclusion of that meeting.

that is, nothing was done about it. the person came in under the guise of having information about clintons, but also to talk about adoptions. all she did was talk about adoptions. >> wait a minute. first of all, we don't know that. >> we do know that. >> that hasn't been established. the story changed three times. no, no, no. >> how are we sure? look, your own legal partner here in the president's team, 'ty sekulow, misled me. you said he di intentionally do that. i take your word. >> he didn't. that.take your word at somebody misled him then. your client may have misled him. >> they already have all these facts. they can do with them what they want. they don't need -- i can tell them thathe president's testimony will be exactly the same as he said about this. >> which part, what he said in the public record? we don't know what he said privately. >> he has had an opportunity to think about it, to refresh his recollection. he's given a statement about it. it is clear that there was no discuson with him about this.

and, nothing happened from it. >> what's the president afraid of? mi not afraid to sit down with kim jong-un or vla putin. why is he afraid to sit down with robert mueller? >> the president i anxious to testify because he knows he's done nothing wrong. it's us, his lawyers, who have real hesitation about it. look how bias the people who started this investigation were. >> you think robert mueller is a biased man? >> i think he is surrounded by biased people. almost exclusively. a guyat d over $30,000 to hillary. he has someone who was crying at her loss party, whatever you want to call it, and he was the lead investigation who is going to go to jail. the fbi agent who said, you have to stop trump. i an, has there will been an investigation of this magnitude with sobhous indications of

extreme, disgusting bias, with totally corrupts the process? can i expect these people to be objective about donald trump? >> it sounds like you think robertueller is corrupt. >> i do not think he is corrupt. >> you're alleging then th he was willing to have -- you're making allegations that he was willing to have corrupt fbi agents on h team. >> well, no, no. that's a fact. he had a corruptbi agent on his team. >> he fired him. >> he put him on the team. >> he got ri of him. >> after other people found out about the corruption. he never bothered tovet him properly. he remains with the chief, assistant, and several others very close t him, who have extraoeinarily cl ties to hillary clinton. if we'd not looked at the other guy's texts, we wouldn't have known how much hehated trump. maybe they shouldth setexts of other people working for him. it, i're willing to do

they can satisfy us that there is a bases for this. john dowdn started this january. since we started it, we don't get an answer. i'm sorry, chuck. as a lawyer, it makes me suspicious. please be clear. president trump wants to we have to hold him back. the only thing they've been -- 've been able to do is, it becomes easier as evidence of re the corrupt naf this investigation becomes clear. >> let me ask two other questions. are you concerned michael cohen cooperating tart with the fed? >> no. in fact, if he wants to cooperate, it is great. we've been through all his records. i know .micha there's no -- he has no evidence of, nor was he involved in anything untorred with the president. michael has been a victim ere, like a lot of other people. >> you want michael cohen to cooperate with the feds? you think it is a go development for the president if he does? >> yes. it'll lead to nothing. mueller gave it away if this had any chance of leading to president trump,

mueller would have kept this? i have every indication there is nothing in this investigation that has any ability to touch the president. i think if michael testifies, or cooperates, i don't know what's onvolved, but i'm hoping he'll be able convince them that this was not a wiseto investigatiotart with. >> the president is going to be sitting down with vladimir putin in just over a he's at the center of all of this, the senate report there. i mean, he has been an influence to the campaign. apparently, it was approved by vladimir putin. as the president'sr, lawould you recommend your client sitting down with the person who is sort of at the center of this russian investigation by bob mueller? >> well, one things a lawyer, another as an american citizen. i'm interested in foreign policy and the safof america and the world. he has to sit down with vladimir putin. vlimir putin happenso run one of the most powerful countries on earth. probably has the second or third biggest nuclear arsenal.

>> right. >> has been very aggressive. on the other hand, has shown himself willing to negotiate. i don't think he has a choice. i think iis a sign of how confident the president is, that he did nothing wrong. i 's not going to be stopped by this. an, this is the reason the investigation -- >> you don't think he's ham strun hamstrung, if he capitulates with putin -- doesn't it put him in a box, that either way, it won't seem genuine? >> as his lawyer, i'd like to say yes. it is a good argument of executive privilege. they're interfering with the president and presidency. however, if you know donald trump, it's not going to stop himne bit. any more than it would stop him from doing any other thin he's ready to try to regularize things with putin. putin has too meet him than halfway. >> rudy giuliani, i have to there. >> thank you, chuck. >> thank you for sharing your views. much appreciated, sir. >> thank you. when we come back, our ♪

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>> announcer: "end game" brought by boeing. continuing our mission to connect, protect, explore, and inspire. back now with "end game." okay. as i promised you, danielle, north korea. 26 days later. the president tolde us had nothing to worry about from nuclear weapons from north korea. hiere are a lot of people morning thinking, i told you so. >> yeah, well, i t people are right. the president came into office campaigning on the fact that the obama administration signed an iran deal that was the worst deal ever done. it was flawed. ireians were cheating. the president pulled out of that deal this year. now, he is talking the way barack obama did. evll more libe i would say, about north korea, without any facts to back him . the problem here is very

straight forward. the president says denuclear liedenuclearize, anhe means one thing, and kim jong-un means another. >> he thinks we should denucl r >> he doesn't mean, i'm going to take apart the plans i am working on, the missile centers, nuclear plants. they have been expanding and working on those in the last week, as secretary pompeo was winging his way over to pyongyang. i >> just to notthe iran deal, obama did get virtually all the material removed from iran. take it out of the country, the bomb material. it's gone. whereas,north korea, they continue with the development of their nuclear program. their missiles, you know -- this was never going to work. they talked, at least, which is something they hadn't done in many i think it is probably a good thing. inthe surprising headli

the world, north korea talksnot come to fruition. i think you see after a year and a half in office, president trump'foreign policy coming to fruition. you see less concern about our traditional alliances with the nato smit coming up. you see a friendlier attitude toward russia. this is a president who has left his mark on the uhes. role in world. >> all right. as george said, the north korea summit was a disaster, i think. what do we think is going to happen with vlad mimir putin? let me play president trump's greatest hits when it comes to putin.>> he's been a leader far than our president has been. it is better to getlong with russia than not. president putin really feels strongly that he did t meddle in our election. you know what? putin is fine. he's fine. we're all fine. we're people.o >> n allies are already nervous about this meeting. they're already offended that the meeting got planned after the nato mmit, which is

exactly the way vlad mimir puti would havewaed it. >> contrast that rhetoric with th rhetoric about trump on the nato allies. yo need to payup. you're killing us on trade. there is the split and contrast that has a lot of people, at least, pause. the least with trump meeting putin in helsinki is his continued denial of the interference in the election. despite otr members of h team, pompeo, other peopleth in national intelligence community, said, yes, th did meddle. the president still doesn't admit it. >> is he going to hand them crimea? >> i hope not. i really do. ok >> doesn't it ike they're setting that up? >> i don't know that they're setting that up. i don't think there's anybody on ise president's national security team whoing to recommend this. i think they're explicitly going

to say, mr. president, you cannot be okay with this. agree to disagree. >> do not congratulate. ll they write it? >> first of all, let's be fair. one thing, we expect more ofur nato allies than we do of the russians. it is important to acknowledge that, in fact, our nato allies n't spend enough on defense, and they deserve a lot of criticism for this. i'm not going to idisagree the president on that, although i don't like his tone and i don't like the.contra but the crimea thing highlights something much more important, this is this awful meeting of the bernie bros and the trump people, on this question of eating away at other country's sovereign. oh, it's fine. what do we care? crimea, they have a lot of russians anyway. beie sanders took th position. president trump takes that position. i don't understand why it is that the center and the center left are not more forceful on the issue >> putin comes into the meeting having already succeeded, right? he has a situation where there is less pressure on crimea and

syria,in behavio both places. he comes out of a nato meeting that is dided, and a president who is friendlier to him than any u.s. president has been to a russian since world war ii. >> it'll make for quite a week. starts with the supreme court. ends with putin. unbelievable. thank you all. thank you for watching. we'll be back next week. as we said, it is a busy week comi up. if it's sunday it's "meet the press." >> announcer: you can see more d game" and "post game" sponsored by boeing on the "meet the press" facebook page.

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