this sunday, those russia hacking indictments. >> 12 military officers by named for conspiring to interfere with the 2016nt presil election. >> president trump says he remains unconvinced. >> i call it the rigged witch-hunt and it really hurts our relationship with rusia. >> and still looks forward to meeting tomorrow with vladimir putin. >> i think that we wi have a chance to have a very good relationship with russia. >> the question -- is this the right time to hold a w summitth putin? my guest this morning, the u.s. ambassadoro russia, jon huntsman. democratic senatk warner of virginia and republican senator dan sullivan of alaska. plus, confronting allies. president trump threatens nato. takes on theresa may on brexit

and praise>>her rival. actually told theresa may how to do it but she didn't agree -- she didn't listen to me. >> and the gop versus thfbi. peter strzok is charged with bias against president trump in russia investigation. >> that is bias. agent strzok may not see it, but the rest of the country does. >>zo and s fights back. >> i strongly believe today's hearing is just another victory notch in putin's belt and anotr milestone in our enemy's campaign too tear america part. >> joining me for analysis, amy walter from the cook political hugh hewitt, host on the salem radio network. nbc news political analyst elise jordan.os and jhua johnson host of 1-a on npr. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> nbc news in washington, the longest running show in telesion history. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd.

>> good sunday morning. well, it turns out it wasn't somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. even before friday's indictments of 12 russian intelligence operatives for hacking the emocrats during the 2016 campaign, four u.s. intelligence agencies had already weighed in. the fbi, the cia,e he dni, and a all of themad concluded that russians interfered in the 2016 election and they did so with the goal of helping donald trump. in fact, you can view the russian hacking ofti democ e-mails, opposition research, turnout models as the watergate ry of the 2016 election. the political crime of thet 2 century. now, as in 1972 it's the penetration of the dnc by hostile actor then it was the nixon white house. now the russian government. and as in 1972 the white house this one was quick to distance is crime.om t

it was pointed out there were no allegations of knowing involvement by anyone on the trump campaign. that's true. at least for now, in this indictment. well, president trump didn't do was express outrage over the russiahacking. what he did do was to re-affirm his claim that the mueller investigation is a witch-hunt and tweet that the russian criminality took place during the obama administration and that it failed to respsid. what the pnt didn't do was postpone a summit on monday with vladimir putin. wh he did do was signal perhaps that he trusts putin's denials over the findings of his intelligence agencies and his justice department l much of the world asking why. >> i think i'd have a very good relationship with president t tin. if we spme together. >> the indictment of 12 mission officers three days before the one-on-one meeting is the most detailed account yet of russian's attack on americdes cracy. >> i briefed president trump about the allegations earlier this week. t need to workether to hold

the penetrators accountable. >> but despite that briefing, mr. trump spent the week praising putin. >> he's not my enemy. hopefully, some day maybe he'll be a>> friend. attling to a alliance established to contain soviet and now russian aggression, nato, insulting the british prime minister in her brexit strategy. >> she didn't listen to me. >> and most notably, attacking his own justice department and the special council probe tasked with investigating russian interference in the 2016 election. >> i call it the rigged witch-hunt. i think it hurts our country and our relationship wirussia. >> the indicl fills in the gaps of several extraordinary moments in the summer of 2016. and raises questions about the trump caaign's role in the attack on the united states by a foreign power. first, there's the imfamou trump tower meeting. june 3rd, donald trump jr. is promised dirt on hillary clinton

replying if it's whasay, i love it. especially later in the summer. june 8th, the indictment says russian intelligence officers launched dc leaks.com and begin to release stolen nc e-mails. a day later, jared kushner and trump jr. and paul manafort, meet with those tied to the kremlin. cond on july 27t h, russi hackers tried to hack into clinton's server it's the same they that mr. trud said this about clinton's e-mails. >> russia, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> mr. tru is consistently questioned the conclusion of his own intelligence agencies. sident putin really feel and he feels strongly that he did not meddle in our election. >> he's denied the hacking of the dnc and clinton's campaign

occurred. >> she doesn't know if it's the russians, maybe that's hacking. it could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds. >> though mr. trumsays he'll bring up hacking, on saturday he was dismissive. >> there won't be a here i don't their. you never know what happens right? >> and joining meow from helsinki the site of the trump/putin summit is the u.s. ambassador to russiaan hunt welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you. >> let me start with a simple question -- is this summitsotill on and iwhy? >> well, listen, it isn' summit. i have heard it called a summit. this is a meeting. in fact, it's the first meeting between the two presidents. they had one at the g-20s and the other at the summit. and this is the first time for them to si have a conversation and i hope

it's a detailed conversation re we might be able to find some overlapping andd sha interests. this has not happened before so there's a lot onur agenda been built up over many years of a relationship that's terribly fraught. soyes, it will happen. and it should hppen. >> you -- you obviously are making a distinction between a summit and meeting. is this because h we don'e an agenda or we don't have deliverables? one of the things you said before in preparation is if you veve a summit you have to have an agenda and you o have deliverables. does that mean we won't have a deliverable out o thi >> listen, you have been around for presidential summits and i have been around since reagan's visit to china in the early 1980s. no state dinner, no joint statemen are prepackaged. that you don't know what will come out of this meeting but it will be the first opportunity for these presidents to actually sit

down across the table alone and then with their teams to talk about everything from meddling in the elections to areas where we have shared interests. you have to remembess that r is a country of 11 time zones. it touches asia and western europe. it's inconceivable we can solve the issues without russia. t because problem solving it's practically impossible so this is an attempt to see if we can defuse and take some of the drama and quite frankly some of the danger out of the relationship right now. >> how did the indictments of ta russian mili officers on friday change the agenda? >> well, i don't think the details are a surprise to folks who have followed this. that nowst makes probably al 30 russians who have been rolled up by the mueller indictment. that investigation continues and i think the bigger pictures we need to hold the russian accountable for what they did.

their malign activity throughout europe as well. that's a part of the conversation that needs to take place. ags n, chuck, this is why i so important to get our senior leaders together because these conversations have happened at the local level. i'm on the ground, i'm on the front i lines moscow. they happened at our level but they haven't happened at the senior most levels in the detail that we're likely to get tomorrow. that why this gathering is important for one reasons. >> two will the president ask putin to extradite the 12 military officers an have you formally requested that the russian government do this? we don't havan extradition treaty. paperwork?egun that >> well, the fbi office and the embassy no doubt will work on at i can't disclose any details in that regard. mequests can be made, that doesn't necessaril that the russians are going to follow through with it. but we'll see if those steps will be taken. i can't make announcement with

you. >> is the president going to make the ask or no >> i n't know if he'll make the ask. but it may be part of the agenda. y be part of their bilateral meeting together. we'll have to see. it came on to the agenda on friday. so it's brandw. >> why does it matter that the president have a warm relationship with putin whether you call it a friendship or not? he's -- this i putin's actions they're pretty outrageous, annexing crimea. propping up a brutal dictator, interfering in our elections and poisoning british citizens just recently in the uk. and yet we're bending over backwards it looks line. ov looks like we're bendin backwards in order to have a relationship with putin right now. >> well, chuck, you just started that long litany, that long list of grievances and it goes on much longer than that. you have to remember there's a reason why every president in

the post cold war period has trd to engage china. every president. it has started a boom and a busl that's left both sides dejected. angry at each other. finger pointing. and it's because weet expectations way too high. >> ambassador, let me pause you there. i assume you're referring to russia. >> i'm sorry, of course i'm referring -- >> that's what i thought. you're a former ambassador to china. understandable. go ahead. >> the -- i'msorry, chuck. the redos and the resets, which have largely collapsed. so the objective here is to meet to put our cards on the table.a there isn'hought that's a reset or a redo. we have looked at past tohi. we have interests, they have interests. and it's a function of seeing where me of the interests overlap. now, they will e overlap in area of strategic stability and arms control where we have a very important arms control agreement. that's coming due in 2021. russia's in violation of the inf

treaty. that's got to be talked about. you have some overlapping interests in syria. where we have come very closn.to confrontat we have got some shared interests with respect to the koan peninsula where we both believe in a nuclear free korean peninsula. a strong northeast asia. nonproliferation. these are areas where conceive my we can strike up a conversation, but we have to let history be our guide. these redos and resets only get you so far. usually end in failure. we have to put our cards on the table. we hav to remember and recognize some of the malign activity we have beeugh. >> let me ask you this. does the president buy into the china and russia are determined to make economie less free and less fair to grow their militaries and to control information and data to repress

their societies andnd exp their influence. does the president buy into ithis? >> wels his team's document. i certainly assume so. with what you have just described i can't imagine anyone wod disagree with that assessment. either china or russia. >> on the issue of crimea, can you say that the president is going to stick w toat -- to the piece of paper heigned in brussels with the nato -- with the fellow nato leaders when he said that was never -- you know, nothing changes when it comes to crimea. is the preside going to sort of stick to his belief that -- or stick to the belief of nato nations that crimea belongs to ukraine and not russia? >> thegenda is the president's. everything will bethis call. but k it's highly unlikely that he'll see any change in crimea. this was a violation of international law. what we have seen in eastern

ukraine is a violatio of international law. an ongoing conflict and the two so-called break away republics. we have some real issues. >> but you didn't rule it out. ambassador, i notice you didn't rule it out.it you said the president's call. so he could very well just -- >> of course -- >> you know what? either though everybody else doesn't think this is a good idea? >> of course it's the president's call, butig think it'sy unlikely that's going to emerge in their conversation as you suggest. there's a lot more to talk about. strategic stability, syria, ukraine, dprk, our bilateral relationship. we have got a fraught bilateral relationship, the collective blood pressure between the united states and russia is off the charts high. so it's a good thing these presidents are getting together. >> all right. ambassador huntsman, i have to leave it there. i appreciate you doing this interview outside. i know that wasn't an easy thing in heteinki. apprect. >> thank you very much. and joining me now is

democratic senator mark warner of virginia. the top democrat on the senate intelligence committee which is doing its own investigation into the russian interference. welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you. >> you just heard from ambassador huntsman. you have signed on to the letter with a bunch of other democratic senators calling for the president to eitanerl the summit or if he doesn't basically essentially make it a one issue summit. ambassador huntsman number one, doesn't want to call it a summit, but a meeting. have you been reassured from mrt huntsman ahat the president will do about putin? >> well, chuck iwould fee better if ambassador huntsman was actually sitting in on the meeting. i'm very concerned about a one-on-one meeting between vladimir putin and donald trump. we know that trump doesn't do a lot of prep work for these inmeetings. heof goes in and wings it. we saw what happened when heth d with kim jong-un. he ended up saying everything is

okayreith north and frankly we have found since that time that's not the case. in putin, you have got a trained kgb agent who does his my fear is that putin could come in with maps of ukraine, maps syria, and try to cut some deal and frankly take advantage of this president. so i really would feelthuch better ie were other americans in t room making sure that we make the point that the first and top point of this agenda should be no further russian interference in our election >> all right. i understand you don't want the president to do this one-on-one. but let me as. you t shouldn't -- let me pick up on a point that ambassador huntsman kept making. what's the wrong with the two leaders meeting? yes, we have some contentious issues to discuss, but regardless of your personal views ofident trump what's wrong with this eting? >> listen, the idea that two leaders two greaton naare

meeting, absolutely makes sense. but what we have now which was unprecedented is russian intervention in our elections where they hacked into democrats and democratic officials' e-mails.to released the benefit trump and hurt clinton. where they intervened in over 20 states' electoral systems. where they used social media in ways that wereunprecedented. and as an american leader and an american administration, wouldn't start a meeting with the head of the country that did that intervention and make that top priority then that meeting shouldn't take place. remember, russiasi mly intervened, they're and adversy is president has been completely reluctant to call out that activity and call out putin as a bad actor. that's why we need to make sure at least there are other people in t om. >> let me ask you though about russia policy. the trump administration has been tough onesrussia. why hat matter? >> chuck, theresident

rhetorically has not been tough on russia. as a matter of fact, congress had toake an unprecedented action basically and say, hey, when we say sanctions we mean you've got to actually put thosp sanctions ce. trump drug his feet on imposing the sanctions. we had to frankly boxed the president in so he wouldn't -- so we would avoid taking that >> i want to get into the indictment. number one the timing o indictment on friday, do you get the sense that the justice department was trying to send a mess sang. >> you know, i had no idea when the indictmeco was going to . we're still processing and first we should say there's an awful lot of very good work done here to have this level of specificy in terms of these russian spies and how they acted and what they did specifically. we now have the mueller investigation with over 30 indictments with five guilty pleas. who knows what nt is to come

because clearly, with the number of individuals that h ve said they're cooperating with the mueller investigation, i'm sure he's got more to come. >> i want to know actually what you've learned n and what you said you learned a lot new in this and one of the things i want to nk you about is the indictment we learned that on the same day -- on or about july 27th that the russian intelligence agents attempted after hours to spear fish for the fi-mt time els associated with clinton's personal office and the clinton campaign. and on this this happened on the day of this infamous sound bite from then kr trump. >> i hope you're able to find the e-mails that are mising. >> is this a new piece of evidence to you,>>enator warner? ell, it appears rather strange coincidence that the very day that mr. trump calls on the russians to hack into

clinton e-mails, well, the russian spies actually tried to take that acon. and remember, that call for the russians to act came few weeks after donald trump jr., his son, his son-in-law, his campaign manager had all i sat do the trump towier the russian agents had offered dirt on hillary clinton. u take that, youake the efforts to reach out to trump aide where they're ofdiring , there's a pattern of behavior that i think at the end of the day i hope mueller gets to the bottom of. th we learned about a new piece of the time line itrump tower meeting in between when the meeting happened and when it was set up. the ssian operativeet up a website called dc leaks.com. literally the daybefore the meeting, perhaps that was a way of proof of what they had to their -- to the folks they were

meeting there. is all of this, july 27th and the trump tower meeting and what we have learned now, is that circumstantial evidence of collusion? >> again, i'm going to leave those conclusions to the public. leave those conclusions to seeing what else mueller has -- >> what about you? does that look like collusion to you? >> what i'm saying, chuck, we have got furer witnesses we're going to interview. and one thing we do know, just within the public domain, clearly there were a lot of folks affiliated withia the rugovernment reaching out to the whole series of folks with the trump orbit, trying to offer information that's din riminating, bad informat about clintose again, just upon donald trump jr.'s response where he said he was anxious to get that kind of information. >> you know, reading the indictment and realizing this was more than just stealing of e-mails, it was stealing of voter files and things like that, the now october 7th

frankly what has been told to me was a watered down warning to the american public about russian interference, but that assessment now looks awfully, igfully weak. obviously in hin this looks weak. what should the obama h administratie done that they didn't do then? >> well, chuck our committee is going to go and it's going through the final stageshe of thorough review of what both the obama administra on and for that matter the fbi did right. did wrongy i think histll show we should have sounded a much stronger alarm. but let's take thfa t, you mentioned,io chuck, the ele interference. in a regular or normal administration when we see that a foreign government had tried to intervenen more than 20 states' electoral systems and when the current director of national intelligence dan coats have said that the russians will be back, in a normal administrati you would have had a white houseesignate someone in that white house to make sure election security was

a topy. prior again, we have had this administration not step up. the congress has. our committee has. and we have put some funds out, we put some bipartisan legislation out. but i think it's abysmal what this administration has not made 2018 eleion securit a higher priority. >> do you believe the 2018 fair?ions are going to be >> i hope they are. but i'll tell you, i think -- i would feel a lot better if there was a concerted whole of government effort to make sure not only at the stateoc and registrar level but on the companies that manipulate and own the voter files and maintain the voter files behind the scenes, i thinwe need a real -- we need to really step up our game. >> all right, mike warner, vice chair of the intel committee, thank you for coming on and sharing your views, sir. >> thank you. chuck. when we come back, given what we have learned in the indictments about russian ♪

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and we are back. panelists here joshua johnson. and amy walter, from the cook political reporter. nbc news' elise, and hugh hewitt. i want to start of off from the new yorker. most experts ie spoke with w resigned to trump being outplayed by putin. i'm afraid he told me that our guy here is li an amateur boxer going upgainst muhammad ali. >> we heard from the ambassador that it's just a meeting. so it's not a summit. >> hang on. we went from summ to meeting to detailed conversation. >> so already we know where this is. let's fe it.

putin has already won. it's not simply that the into his s going over part of the world and having this sit down-o and one-. but the fact is that after these indictments what a president yoould be saying to ev, not just to putin, but to the american public writ large, russia did this to divide us. russia didn't do this simply to make sure somebody won and lost. they did this to make sure we lose trust in the political system and the institutions and that's not going to n.hap we are america. we may be of different parties, we have different views. but we're a united america. that's what i'm going to say to vladimir putin that you cannot divide us and h can't do. >> hugh, why can't he? >> i think he will. i have mucmore confidence in the president than anyone at this table because i take a long view. there are 26 soviet american summits, six russian-american-- >> don't call it a summit. >> call it whatever you want,

the worst was '61. but the second worst was obama in medvedev on the open mike, tell vlad to give me some space. what happened after wethat? on't know for a year how this plays out and actually have much more confidence that trump will not be inllied or sethe approval of anyone because he doesn't seek the approval of anyone ever >> but you could argue that the preconditions though thatob presidena set up for putin to feel empowered is what donald trump is doing by going into the eting on monday. you look at how donald trump the theatrics before the meeting with kim jong-un and h how threatened -- you know, he canceled it, it was back on. he definitely had the north koreans sitting on the edge oth r seat about would donald trump lend them that prestige by going to the table here, donald trump is forcing topissue against all of h advisers he has wanted to have this summit. they tried to dissuade him and there hasn't been ariipals meeting available to discussth

what's oagenda with russia. do i don't see how we can texpet anythi come out of this. >> i think of the quote from michel angelo our greatest danger might not that be e aim and we miss but that we aim too low and we hit. i st checked the home pages of sputnik and rt both of them refer to it as s rmit. thesians may view this as the world views this with a little bit more alacrity. the president may be going into this to get what he wants. he may get it. he may just want this meeting be getting to know you meeting. we need to spend time with people who could be our allies, our friends. he may walk out of there getting everything he wanted. and so might vladimir putin. granted it may not be as visible where the world saw him and north korea shaking hands butk they can wt thinking they're both winners. >> i'm sorry, this is what the president's director of national intelligence said on friday

about russia. take a listen. >> we know you run the shop. we know you're making the decisions. you can't pass it off to oh, that's some hacker down somewhere where we don't know. we know what you do. >> presentation he said a blinking red lit comparing it to right before 9/11. so theid prt is going to try to befriend somebody who director coats said is currently attacking thee whhouse. >> framing it like this, one, putin is not going to admit it so why should i ask him, two, it happened under obama's watch. both of those things are true, but that's not the the point is not to say, well, did you do it and then have him say of course not, we don't spy. it's to say we know you did ki. w the names of the people where you're doing it. >> i was reminded last night at dinner by two veterans of the ic.

the russians have been the russians since stalin. they're the sameaneople year in year out and romney was right in 2012. i think the american media is trying to infu donald trump with a sort of willful blindness he doesn't demonstrate. >> what the heck a you talking about the media? this isjohn mccain. this is actual -- this is mark warner. these are serious officials on both sides. this is not thea. me that's such a cop-out. >> no. the commentary around -- >> i'm tired of that. >> it tries to make trump look unprepared for be when he has pompeo -- >> it's people inside the white house saying it. hugh. >> the only preparation has been john bolton going over last week and pursuing a policy that's completely the opposite of what

they have espoused in their entire carner. >> it's thing to talk about the spying but when it's turning americans against americans and that was their point is nr americans trust, not just the political parties and the political institutionsut not to trust the fbi and any other institution. that to me is more worrisome. >> can w of the report, it also notes that they minedn. for bitc bitcoin gets complicated but what that does is you have the computer system that does incredibly complicated computations and it allows you to generate more bitcoin which means that the russian generated money to make lis happen. therally mind money to hack our election system. saying president is well, i don't know if i'm go to ask for extradition is stunning. if someone broke io the bureau of engraving and printing and stole millions of dollars to against the

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welcome back. while some republicans liken j mccain have urged president trump to use the russian indiments to get tougherwith, is or simply cancel tomorrow's summit, the republican leadership in congress has been largely silent. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has provided no public reaction and house speaker paul aid, quote, we said all along we know that russia meddled in the elections and we're glad the hackers are being held to account. joiningis man sullivan of alaska. probably the closest state -- >> we certainly are. >> to the country of russia. by the way they're doing a lot in the antarctic too. >> let me play something forleyu from a cue of yours on

thursday. cory gardner. >> i think we should name russia atate onsor of terror. i have been on record saying that. >> he sa this before the indictaments came out. do you agree with him? >> i think russia is an adversary and what you mentioned in the previous segment it doesn't get a lot opr s, there's a lot of discussion on how the president seems to downplay issues with putin. what doesn't get a lot of discussion is the cowerete actionhe congress and the white house have been taking with regard to russia. there's a number of them. building ourmilitary. which we, you know, defense spending actually declined almost 25% from 2010 to 2016. that rebuilding includes the european reassurance initiative. billions of dollars for our troops in poland n the baltics. boots on the ground. second, you know, this administration has given lethal

weapons the javelin antitank system to ukraine. president obama never did that. congressipartisan membersof the senate armed services committee wanted to do that. .'re finally doing that n that's serious. >> you realize, senator, everything you're discussing, you guys have forced the administration on this. he himself though seems -- does that -- when he rhetorically downplays this concrete action that you're talking about doesn't it undermine the action? >> look, the javelin system wasn't forced on the president at all. president obama didn't want to do that. president trump, secretary mattis did that. putin understands power. and energy, chuck, we have this great opportunity unleashing erican energy. i wainin a mewith senator mccain about a year and half ago with a senior russian dissident. at the end of the meeting i push him more can we do to

back on putin? the number one thing you americans can do is produce more american energy. we're doing that in alaska with the opening of anwr, lng. so we're doing a lot. it's the white house and the congress together. these are concrete action that putin understands. to your point on the rhetoric, you know, i think that actions speak louder than words.ic paarly as it relates to vladimir putin and hopefully when the president meets him they're going to be able to talk these concrete actions that we were ten. >> i kno you're close to senator mccain. >> i am.y >> he basicays if you're not doing to stand up for this, cancel this meeting. what do you make of that? >> look, i think have the meeting. i don't think senator mccain, you know, said that -- >> wha should be theagenda? we know there may not be one, but what should it be in your mind? >> the agenda should be number one, tt we should let vladimir putin -- the president and the team should let vladimir putin know if you want a relationship, if you want, for example, sanctions to be lifted

it's going to be up to you. what do i mean by that? don't invade your neighbors and move out of the countries that you have don't align yourself with the world's biggest sponsors -- state terrorism in terms of iran. don't back regimes bashar al assad. and don't medal in our elections and our allies. absolutely, that should be the conditions. everyone is talking about we need ap.etter relations my view is it's up to the russians. because they need to taketi s to get that better. >> you're basically saying present trump better notive in to any of putin's asks. putin may ask to get american troops out of syria, putin may ask to lessen the sanctions to crimea and give back the compounds that we took away. so if the president gives in on any of those things, what are you going to do? >> if the president is giving in

on lifting sanctions without putin taking action i think that would be a mistake. now the president s mentioned other areas you saw ambassador huntsman talk about other areas of possible cooperation. nt that the presi highlighted in his press conference with theresa may was on nuclear proliferation. i mean, i think if we can make progress on nuclear proliferation which right now the weapons of mass destru ion proliferation threat is very significant. getting russian cooperation on thatuld be important. so there are things outside of the direct relationship, but if he wants a better relatiship marley -- particularly wants a lifting ofanctions he'sot to take actions to make that happen. >> i want you to comment on sothing -- somebody who i believe was a colleague of yours at the state department, nick burns. he was an taundersec during the bush years just like you. and this is what he tweeted this trump's trip to europe is the single most chaotic and destructive of an american president. he's put us at odds with the eu

and disparaged germany and undermined may. he's a wrecking ball. the americans have been diminished. do you agree with him? >> i have a lot e -- as miration for him. we're an ally rich nation and like china, russia, iran, they're ally poor. they know at and they hav tried to undermine our -- >> why isn't the president helping? >> well, look, i think the nato summit turned out pretty well. there's always drama that comes into the summits. i helped president bush prepare for some of his itsu there's always drama but at the end of the day that summit turned out well. y you had the president fu recommitting to our focus on nato. very importantly we made progress on the 2% gdp spending which, you know, couple of years ago all -- most countries were declining their defense spending

including us. even the president raising this issue of energy in germany and russia was important. so i think overall it was a successful summit. >> senator sullivan, i apprecia c youing on, sharing your views. sounds like you're taking the presidens signature at his word, not necessarily his rhetoric. >> i like actions more than words and i think on that fro frofront russia's listening. >> there's my takeaway. >> we have a lot of work to do. >>hanks very much. >>hanks very much. later with the panel in "end who would have thought, who would have guessed? an energy company helping cars emit less. making cars lighter, it's a good place to start, advanced oils for those hard-working parts. fuels that go further so drivers pump less. improving efficiency is what we do best. energy lives here.

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year was 1969. wow, america was a different place and so was america's pastime. think of how much more diverse. 74% were white. 15% african-american and 11% thording to the baseball latino. researchers. well in 2017, the playerre cens 63% white. just 6% african-american. obviously that's down from '69. bu nearly 30% latino. obviously, players from country like the dominican republic in partelular and venehave driven a lot of the change in the game. of course this trend also reflects the growing latino population right here in the uned states and as the country's population has moved south and thehe west again, baseball has followed suit. believe it or not in 1969 in had never been a -- there had never been a major league team in the states of florida or colorado and one team in texas, the houston colt 45s turned

astros. if you build it or if you move there, they will come. now, we've got the miami b marlins, tam rays, second team in texas, texas rangers. colodo rockies and the arizona diamondbacks. all as the populations of the states have obviously grown rapidly. regrettably taking your family out to the ball game is more competence than in 1969.an back then you get a lower level ticket to thear all- game for just 12 bucks. in today's dollars by the way adjusted for inflation it's at $2 guess what, this year, the lower level ticket is going to run you about $350 face vai'e. not talking about behind home plate by the way. even though the attendanceas ticked down slightly it's a pretty good news story over a generation. we still got more than double the amount of fns showing up 1969.ames today than in an average of 14,000 per game back then. and an average of just over 28,000 today. and finally who's most likely to

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from nationals park to here. it was great. look, i want to get back to the investigation and something rod rosenstein said to me that was hi ing at more tome and more divisiveness to come. take a listen. >> it's important for us to avoid thinking politically asre blicans or democrats. and instead to think patriotically as americans. the blame for election interference belongso the criminals who committed election interference. >> amy walter -- >> good luck withthat. yeah, we know that the -- that the potential for indictments of actual americans are coming. and that sounded to like a man very worried about where this is headed. >> look, we don't know where this is going. neither do most americans so what we're filling in with the gaps we don't kn is ar partisanship. if you like the president, you don't trust thisprocess. what you feel even about the russians whether it's a serious issuthis is a "washington post" pollsked the question, do you think that russian efforts to influence the

election was a serious issue only 13% of republicans believe it's serious. >>ic repu senator johnson ekid we have -- said this said it was blown out of proportion. >> so we aren't going to agree. it doesn't matter what comes erout. these in about how you feel -- thesew numbers about h you feel about mueller and russia are baked into the cake. >> well, let me speak as a doj alum. i'm proud of the department of justice and what i takewa if you colluded with american, given the capacities that were demonstrated in the indictment we will get you. we knoeveryone whocolluded whether or not -- if they're not yet revealed, put your hand up and run to the special counsel because we know everything that happen. >> something else happened this week. it was the peter strzok hearing and for some reason it was decided to put itn public which made it have a show trial feel. house republicans we'll see what you guys think if they covered themselves take a listen. >> i don't give a damn what you

appreciate, agent strzok. >> how many times did you look so innocent into your wife's eyes and lie to her about lisa -- >> mr. chairman, this is outrageous. >> by the way i'm a dentist. okay, so i read body language very, very well. you've got -- you got very angry in regards to the go star father that shows me that it's innately a part of you and a bias. >> elise, most o the hearing was speeches. and in fact at one point peter strzok said can i respond to the question, no. he was told. peter strzok committed som -- he obviously had some problems and he appeared to at least let some of this stuff get to him a bit. what the heck was that? it was political theater. it was a ccus that both sides weaponized for their own purposes. we didn't learn anything new at the end of the day. after sitting through i think it was eight, nine hours of the

theater, what new information actually came out of it? we just know this is going to continue to rip the country apart as they dig into their bias and seize on to the sides that appeal most to their impresses. >> well, it also doesn't help us orehabilitate the image the fbi or get down to what's actually happening at the fbi, whether there are any changes that need to be made. remember that news conference that chrisray the director gave last month in response to the inspector general's report. before he started to take questions he talked about the work that the fbi has been doing in the less ten months, rescui more than 1,400 children from predators including one who is 7 months old. they stopped the terrorist plot agaimall in miami. against fisherman's wharf in san francisco. they're doing this amazing work from an outdated building, the j. edgar hoover building. that's a legitimate conversation to have aboutbi about whether the politics motivated the

investigation. a worthwhile question that needs >> be answered. e learned that the fusion gps dossier was given to bruce ohr. it came up in the >> it came up in jim jordan's shead. >> it not contradicted by strzok. >> look, we're running out of time here. it didn't -- he was told what he couldn't say by the fbi, hugh. >>i we'll out in the end how it all came together. but one investigation. i ask everyone to wait on everything until the d. >> that's all for today. thanks for watcherg. and rememb, if it's sunday it's "meet the press." >> you can see and "postgame" sponsored by boeing on the "meet the press" facebook page.

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