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. a prisoner of war for 5.5 years. >> elected to the senate six times beginning in 1986. >> thiis a man that we'll all want to watch, his name is john ain. >> republican nominee against barack obama with a since of st y. senator obama has achieved great things for himself and his country. i applaud him for it. f a arless critic even president of his own party.
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>> cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats. >> who fought with believes always in his honor. >> it matters less that you can fight. what you fight for is the realst te. this morning we remember john mccain h i will talk illary clinton and his arizona colleague jeff flake and plus present trump's nightmare week, michael cohen pleads guilty a manafort found guilty. the president's allies abandoning him. how is all of this impacted president trump's approval ng ra we have a brand new poll taken before and after the cohen/manafort stories broke. joining me is andrea mitchell, halie jackson, susan ge and david brody. welcome to sunday for a special edition "meet the press."
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from nbc news in washington, t longest running show in televisi history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning, he was a warrior, a politician and a maverick. the news he died late it was not unexpected but no less tragic. some deaths leave a greater hole in our national physche. his wife cindy wrote, "my heart is broke i am so lucky to live the adventure of this man for years." he passed away in the place he lovedbest. he was a prison of war in five and a lf years in hanoi, a two times presidential candidate and always his own man, a maverick
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as he was so fond of saying of himself. his last moment in the senate came in dramatic in the senate. he walked in the floor and voted in thefo able care act. we'll get to some of the big news in the week. we'll begin with two of my colleagues who have covered mccain for decades. tom brokaw and andrea mitchell. >> you had the last interview conducted with john mccain. let me play it when you asked him are weoing to be okay. this is what he said. >> mark twain said history des no repeat itself but it rhymes. i can also say i believe in america and i believe ints ople and the folks in arizona, i am not a pessimist about the
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future. >> tom. >> well, i'm siting here in chica icago, i am here to look back what happened in the city 50 years ago. it was a democratic convention, we lost in,000 people vietnam that year. we had bob by kennedy assassinated. when i aske him about that, he said it was much worst then. he was always authentic of what he had so say ande he could critical. and he got angry with me -- about what, i was not clear. he ce to me, two years ago, i was wrong. i don't know another politician who can talk likethat.íf his friend included, the democratic leader of the senate and people like warreno michae
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s the producer of reque "saturday night live." we are missing that utd the kind ofnticity that he brought to the arena. >> andrthis is what he wrote ine washington post" this weekend. mccain was a romantic about his causes and a cynic about the world. he had the capacity to be both things and t live with the contradiction. he was realistically optimistic i guess. i guess that optimism, that shining city on the hill that, of course, we think of ronald reagan, i think michael bessla says last night if the happy warrior b had nn coined to
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descri hubert humphrey that john mccain will be the happy warrior. a warrior and a fighter always but always oso muchtimism and joy and passion. passion because he believed so much in his country and the ople of our country and he believed in a greater vision of america. >> tom, every generation has this handful and it is a small handful of people who don't bec become president but bigger than life. how di he achieve that status in your mind? achieve i think you that by sailing against the winds that are prevailing. for example, bothar partie more idea .lo what is really needed to be done and john mccain uld do that.
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he was not trapped by his party atbel. he was very consee on international affairs but willing to take a look atme ic program from a different perspective. we don't have that much anymore in plitics. you know i grew up at a time where boarties got along even though they had different ideology. now, we have everybody trappe in to this kind of ideological box. you can't move onto that box. >> i want to read you john's statement. because it invokes a greatsty of yours. we met 32 years. we both loved the navy but we had opposit views about war of our youth. we didn't trust each other. we traveled to vietnam and we
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found e common ground in the most probable place. i stoodn with j where years of his life were in pain but always in honor. >> the trip that the fact they would stand there together. what john kerry did after the war ing one of the leading, his first appearance on "meet the press" as a protesters against the war. they worked together. as john kerry wrote in the tribute last night, he was savaged by lesser people but that word could never hurt him because he was stronger in the broken places in the words of hemmingway, the great hero that john mccain]ñt
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realize ho bitter it was and how much they had to pay in the political price. ey gave these two veterans and john mccain the p.o.w., gave bill clinton in 1995, the political cover to actuall normalize relations with our former enemy. >> tom brokaw, it is at least 70 people that are nominees for the united states senate t november. there is going to be a lot of remembrance of john mccain this week and a lot of people are reading about moments of jo mccain that they are just learning about. half of the people w back to the senate, what lessons do you hope they take awa from what they learn about john mccain. >> something greater than art label or the kind of ideological if you anwill, attachment, the need of the country are not just david weom
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issues and where we stand. to take a sta against what you know is not the best interest of the country, it happens to be the ideology of wever that's in the white house wch. we need more people who'll sail against the wind. i went into hanoi and stood in that park and looked into what lake where he landed and shot icwn terribly injured. i have seenres of him being savage to death in that way and he went through five and a half years. before all that, he had been a playboy fli playboy flyer and it changed his life. he came out andte w to help the entire country and not the enti base, that's a b lesson. >> tom brokaw and andrea mitchell. thank you bo. >> mr. obama defeated hillary
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clinton and senator mccain lost that year. the two shared eight years together in the senate and spent a lot of time together overseas. joining us now on the form is former secretary of state, and 2016 nominee of president, hillary clinton. thank you for joining me, simply,hat is h legacy in your mind? >> i was listening to tom and and yar andrea, i think we can talk about for hours what he meant to the country and what he meant to a lot of us individually. he leaves a legacy of courage. the courage we all came to know because his time as a p.o.w. hitting up everyday and working as hard as he did for the people of arizona and for the values
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that he cherished was not easy. you are right i did travel with you. he could not combai his own because of the war injury he had sustained. he could not lift his arm above the shoulder level. we used to laugh because when we would do tv together for sometimes "meet the press." oh, we got a clip later for you. don't worry. he'll say well, if my hair is sticking up, i have so much wonderful personal memories of him as well as public ones. in it was interesting the way he conducted himselhe senate, he almost would go out of his way to find theth democrat you would think is least likely to work with the republicans and try to forge a bond with them, before you is ted ennedy. it almost became a legendary the way he would try to reachout.
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>> well, that's because he did believe in the institution and he knows. he knew that the senate could not work if we did not work together. i think it was heartbreaking to him as he said in the heeech gave right before she voted against repealing against the affordable act that we need to cooperate a learn how to trust each other again and do better to serve the pople who elected us. he was so typically john in those remarks.ai hestop listening to the bombastic loud mouthsan on tv on the internet. the ?nhell with he understood the marrow of his bones and what it meant to be an american and how important it was for us to just to agree and differ. at the end of the day to work
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together and terst each o and get things done, he'll be missed for many, many reasons but i think that example that he sets of working across the isle and working to bring people together here at home and around the world is one we should remember. >> let me quote him and say let's have a little talk.ht the timing of his death in the moment that we arin politics, there is a reason washingtonki an extra stomach punch this morning. the vacuum helees and the timing, we can't ignore this moment that he's leaving us. >> you are 100% right. he understoodhat we have been through careless times before at home and abroad. but, our institutions are being severelyested right now. including his beloved senate and
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he was in every way he knew how trying to sound the alarm and to get all of a us rican who understandea the that we stood for around the globe, if we turn or backs on leadership on behalf of human rights and the kind of future we want to forge for our children and grandchildren, we'll be giving up on what he fought for and what was in prison for and what he stood for and in a long o line american patriot. >> secretary clinton, i am going to lve it there. i thank you, i assume you and lindsey graham are going to have some vodka shots and toast to the senator. >> wel i don't know, i hope that'll happen. >> i think the irishman in john mccain would love you to celebrate that way. secrety clinton, thank you fo sharing your remembrance with
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us. >> thank you, bye. >> this week senator mccain will be -- over night president bush released this statement, "some lives are so vivid, it is difficult to imagine them ended." what a great way to put it. president oba released a statement saying john mccain and i were members of different generations but we sred for all differents a fidelity t something higher. mccain will be buried at the naval acady at annapolis. let me bring in our panelists. i want you guys to share but i want to share moments of john mccain in 2000s regretting what
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he's standing u for the confederate in south carolina. this isar 15 before the debate got back. >> they fought on the wrong side of america history. that my friends is how i feel of the confederate battle flag. that's the honest answer i never gave to a fair question. susan page what does that say about him? >> it is a reminder that john mcca is not a perfect person. he made mistakes in his lbue he would come around and admit it and apologize for it. he d this with reporters and there were times where he was unfairly czed for stories he was written and two days later he would call you back and say i was wrong, you were fair. who does that? >> as somebody who covuss the white talk about the timing of this and the moment we are in, i can't help to lo at the reaction and the response of
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the death of mccain. look back to 2008 when the birther movement was beginning against barack obama. senator came out and talking abouthristians -- a movement by the way that donald trump was pushing as part of a conspiracy theory years later and he had the war hero comment where he says mccain s not a war hero. the rnc came out and condemned donald trump. you look at what's happening the ast year as john mccain is in arizona, president trump has not mentioned him by name but he has attacked him on his health. and the way it is a contrast to the way you look at how republicans have shifted, i think, over the years when it comes to that lationship. >> he's a statement living in a political environment where
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state men is a bad word. i interviewed him half a dozen times. i will never forget the twinkle in his eyes and we all know that look that's kind of like, look, this is the maverick in me. i have to tellyou, look, on judges and is laum alam and youn the list, he was solid on a lot of stuff. if he had n bucked his party so much, he may havepr been the ident of the united states >> i rode over here this morning with the driver who drove john mccain. he said oh, iemember him, i ui -- he would sit in theront instead of the back and he would call the driver by his name. as i got out of thecar, oh, it is nice that he shared those
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stories, wait minute, what is my driver's name.k. i didn't even aya angelou once said, people will make you -- even that speech that c senatornton referenced aboutri ig all the bombastic loud mouth is about remembering the humanity. a i think part of it speaks to that that ability for us to view one another as people who are trying to build al more perfect uniou >> got to something. i said it in a blunt way rlier. the guy was not a snob. do you know how many political reporters i know and including this one right here who is the first person to acknowledge them to take them seriously as a reporter and not just to look
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for the recognizable tv face. no offense to any of us now on tv. he was not a snob whether with a driver. that was an incredible aspect of him. >> i think people who goes throughnormous times as he did as a prisoner of war. also a sense of gratitude ndr everyday think he came out of vietnam understanding that everyday was a little bit of a gift and something to be used as a higher purpose.ed he talk about it to everybody to members of congress and members of the press, he thought all of us should have a h purpose. >> he thought we all had a stake in keeping the democracy healthy. >> i remember him being happy on that bus, he was the front runner and he had dropped off and it was a time where he had drop off and nobody gave hi him -- hewn carried his ñbags.
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look, i have been a p.o.w. for 14 years and this is nothing. >> he was friendly with re rters. >> he called you hey, you scum >>g reporter but he laughs. >> yes. think every reporter was called a name by him but it was a smile. >> he gave bunny ears to reporters live on the air. there is a lot of moments that reporters covered cain will remember. >> yeah, he did not attack them on twitter. >> i will talk to jeff flake of arizona, both of who who sits on their judicial committee. what impact does this news have on the president's rating. we'll remember john mccain right
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welcome back, it is fair to say this was the worse week yet in donald trump's presidency. michael cohen pleaded guilty of counts ofal finanraud and moments later in washington,an her trump's ally, paul manafort was found guilty in eight counts of financial issues of his own. joining me now senator jeff flake of arizona, senator, i want to begin with your thoughts onenator john mccain, you wrote something very lovely in a self-depu
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lf-deput self-depricatiing way. >> talk more. >> well, yeah tat was my title. the other senator from arizona. i enjoyed that andc but it was like having a big brother who nobody wantedto ss with. i very much enjoyed serving with john mccain in thenate and being in the white house hen he was in the senate as well. >> a lot of people )s&s that void? it is not going to e a vo that's#4 filledeqrç right away. how does a void like john mccain gets filled? i thk you tried to step up in different ways and reached across the isle but not many of your colleagues do that. >> i don't know we'll ever see anybody who is like john mccain. he's one of a kind. we can certainly try to follow his examples and seeing the good in our opponents and recognizino peopleay be on the other side of the isle who have different philosophy and they
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are friends, ty are fellow jr(p's, that would go a long ááu iwe would follow that example from john. >> i know chuck schumer says he plan to introduce a senate to renaming the senate office'sso buildingbody that gos baes back to segregation in georgia. i take it that would be aretty easy vote for a lot of people to castor rename that building of the mccain senate office building. it would be, i hope to be the firstsponsor. he had his office there the entire time andud ing right now near my office. i think that's a fitting tribute. >> let me move to the week events and ask you a question of dealing theen pres you are on the senate judicial committee, the president of the united states was accused in helping to commit a federal crime. he's an unindicted coke
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conspirator. charlie sykes wrote, republicans will need to show they are more than pconstitutionalted plants. what should the u.s. congress do now to look intocu this ation that the sitting president of the united states was appartly in a court of law directed somebody committing a federal crime? >> first, we want to make sure ce mueller investigation is allowed totinue and be completed. we passed legislation and judicial committee to that effe, i hope it is broug on the floor. some of the investigation obviously is the mueller investigation, the seventh district of new york and that'll continue as well. so i think to make sure that there is a separation of powers and congress assumes its constitutional role. that's the most important thing we can do at this point. >> do you think that means just
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protecting mueller or holding some hearings? >> now, i think protecting the mueller investigation, we don' wa to get involved in terms of over lapping what'sgoing on there. i think bob mueller is moving forward as they should and that needs to continue. there is a conñ that the there is a conñ t6ñ ramped >+se about perhaps firi the attorney general. i hope that does not if it does, we'll deal with it at that time. >> i am curious ifme sen has changed in the senate republicat conference whe comes to the nate. i want to play you lindsey gram from last year and lindsey graham from last week. >> if jeff sessions is fired, there will be holy hill t pa >> the president is entitled to an attorney general he has faith in. i think there will be a time sooner rather than later where it will be time to have a new face and a fres voice at the department of justice.
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>> is it fair to say that sessions does not he the same amount of support in the senate republican conference right hno th did last year? >> i don't know. here maybe a few isolated voices and the president not to fire him now, i can tell you as a body we are saying please don't. he served in the pleasure of t president president, we all know that. i think it would be a mistake.in >> what of mistake andf repercussion does this? >> the concern obviously is that would be the first domino tofa then what happens with rob rosenstein and firing jeff sessions would concern us all and that's the firs domino. i frankly think that the president will hold off. he has made these kinds of noises before and he pulled
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i ck. >> befort you go, there is a primary in arizona, three republicans replacing you in the united states senate, you ka ir care to share with us whoo you plan support? >> i wish them well. >> do you think your endorsemen he hurts people in the primary right now? >> nobody would be asking for republican primary, i can tell you that. this is very much, you know, i t am not happy a it but this is the president's party right now. we'll be sorry for that in the future but that's the case rig now. jeff flake, i know you have a heavy heart this morning, i know it is no easy to come on here when you lost such a close friend andyo mentor, thanfor coming on and sharing your thoughts today. >> thank you. joining mehe now is ranking democrat on the house judicial committee, congressman jerry nadl of new york.
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welcome back to "meet the press." >> before i get have been in washington for 26 years. i know you are in the house and the nate asenate. your thoughts in john mcca. this morni >> well, he was a true american hero from his contagious svivice annam when he refused his abily to go home and two more years of tture in hanoi. he was a true american hero and it will be a long time to fill his space. >> let me go to michael coh cohen -- should that trigger the start of an investigation in the judicial committee that could end up going to impeachment or not but the way our system works, is this the proper way it
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should begin? llerell, i think the m investigation has to continue first and for most and the committee has to defend the mueller investigation against the president and the republicans in congress attempts to sabotage it and discredit it and the fb and t department of justice. congress is supposed to be a checks and balances. under the republicans, its been the exact opposite, chairman nunes, saying he views his role is to protect the id prt. the role of congress is not to protect the president, we ought to be holding investigations. >> what would that look like today? let's sayyouave a functional
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relationship of the other side. th i hope we would confer mueller to see what we should not do that would get in the way of his investigatio we don't want to get interfered with them by accent. we should be investigating all of these things. possible interference of the russians of our investigation and what we can do to make sure that can't happen again. who in the united statesed a and abetted that and if other o crimesher improper acts in terms of the campaign, we should be investigating all of those things and bringing them to life for the american peopib. po seeing if there is any legislation we should do to prevent thurr reonce in the future. again, we should talk to the eller people first and make sure we don't step on their investigation. >> let me ask you this,e you wee of bill clinton's defenders. if you were charged with running
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something of some form of impeachment investigation, if you are the chairman of the committee, what would hapn in democrats took over congress. how would you make sure you handle it differently than your colleagues 20 years ago? >> i would take the same attitu attitude. impeachment is a constitutional to protect the constitution against the president who would aggregate power and disrupt our ks and balances and pose a true threat to american liberty or constitute in the rule of i law. uld also say at the time that you should not do an impeachment on a partisan bases that in order to do an impeachment properly, you have to think that the evidence of
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threatening impeachable offenses, threatening tort li was so overwhelming that by the end of the process, the overwhming majority ofhe american people including a lot of the people who supported the other sidegr would you would have to deal with. we did not have that then. >> obviously watergate did have that. let me ask you this final question here, back in 1999, during the deba of whether or not bill clinton obstructed justice, you said at the time you were not convinced that a president could obstruct justice, do you feel that way that it is not one of - the quote "may not be impeachable." >> i don't rememberaaying i don't agree with that today. obstruct a president, anybody can obstruct justice.ob ruction of justice under certain circumstances may be impeachable offense. remember there is a big difference between a crime which may or may not be impeachable. peachable offense does not have to be a crime. >> there is some crimes that the
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president commits that you don't think it is impeachable? >> the affairs? >> that might because it implicating the process of the elections. >> y are a skeptical kind. >> perjury with regards toe a sexu affair-- perjury regarding an attempt of the president to aggregate power probably would be an impeachable offense. mr. nadler, i have toll lea lea there, representing new york city, thank you for coming on. >> thank y >> we'll take a look at our journal poll, we polled both before and after the news of cohen and manafort, did we see a change in president trump's approval number. another moment of a remarkable ccain. of john m
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come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. welcome back, so what effect did michael cohen and paul on manafortssi manafort convictions had on president trump's poll rating. we have our new poll numbers. the answer so far seems to be no. we had two polls. the first one was taken last saturday throughwednesday. the president's job approval rating hit an all time hi in our poll, 46% and 51% disapproving. then we took a second poll after the news broke because we knew some of you may be skeptical
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after the results, the results barely changed. >> 44% approved and 52% ro disad. strategy, the manafort and cohen convtions represented a fool's gold opportunity. democrats still hold a big lead, 50% over 42%. >> the president's strengthen and con yegressional democrats strengthen. we'll be back with end game in a moment. >> he's an arab. >> no, no ma'am, he's a decent family ma citizen that i just happen to have disagreementit on fundamental issues and that's
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end game brought to you by boeing, continuing our mission to connect, protect and exe.ore and inspba now with "end game," insteade of trying to sum up week, maybe we'll use these three times magazine covers to start this conversation. this is the "time" for e last 14 months, they have done a series of three of themnow. they have the word stormy and wind and now he's suddenly is had theff ovale under water. halie jackson, i think this is a good of a wayo describe
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perhaps how the president is feeling now. >> when you falk toks in the white house, there is an insistent that this hadtoothing o with us or our policy and what we try todo. the president is doing this thing. we are not creating this crisis strategy and we feel that we don't have to . the poll that you just talked about validate that in laite part whe comes to what's happening inside the white house. you talked toolks at the west wing structure h there, peop speaks with. he's unhappy with this and he's frustrated and upset but not with paul manafort. that's an interesting piece to watch. he made iticclear pu as well. >> all the news this week had nothing to do with russia. that's the bottom line. whu got to deliver the goods on russia, we'll see happens. look at this point if there is no russia, there is no goods on russia, base does not care. why? because a lot of pele - >> you think the base cares about russia?
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>> they may care depending on what comes out of it. everybody gets on their moral high horse and says oh, trump has beenth dealing his for 30 kwleyears and he's been doin this for 30 years. they don't care and they realiz what they're voting for and signing up for. how do i say ththis? republicans and democrats, both parties are to blame and donald trump is herend he's a boy in a china shop. >> can i say one thingthough? the argument that would be effective with his bases, this is ao president repeatedly promise tor hire the best peop and bring the boaest folks in. so that may b some sort of, you say me democrats on that. >> if you look at the numbers i our poll, i find what's th interesting noapproval number because we should accept
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the fact that donald trump base1 is going to stay with him. 56% of democrats say this congressional election is more important than usual and 38% of republicans say that. who's going to bother to go toh vote in midterm elections, is people that think this election reall matters to me and that's an important number. >> though there is some in trump orbit thinks the threat of impeachment wl motivate his base. >> we heard from ncy pelosi speaking about impeachment should be a bipartisathing. i am not sure what else democrats have that's going to motivate them show up at the polls. i understand why republicans are motivated to keep that agenda in place. what else is there to get democrats out? >> i think democratic leadership, and the disconnect, you knowpublicans, the
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republican base, david, wanted an aggressive party the go obama and clinton. we aredership were like always trying to hold back those that did in the party. and they paid ad trump am thinking all of these responsible democratic leader that are peachment caution, are these people and the base may say give me michael avenatti, i don't want your responsible guys. the at's manager that democrats have to deal with. oen the republic on the republican side, they got what they wanted. a guy is goi to shape it up. i hate to sayit and i know we are sitting on "meet the press" roundtab roundtable, 62% thinks it is biassed. >> it has been a tactic and a tool of the roger ailes created chamber. let's not pretend it is not
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anything than that. >> yes and no. the independence arepart of donald trump's base. i think that's very important. a lot of time we say republican are donald trump's base. not really. >> it is a separatemp tr it is a different version of the ncpublican party. >> those indepen also distrust the media. it is not just republicans. it is many americans. >> no, i take your point. >> it is a campaign tactic. >> it is wal-maorth to say to g ay from politics. they're right, the founders did not intend impeachment to be tool for what they referred to -- it is designed for treason and high crime a sdemeanor, i feel that there are a lot of people saying rather we mobilize him for 2020 rather than throwing him out now. >> all right, guys, that's all we have today. thank you for wataling.
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of youwe are keeping john mccain and his entire family i our thoughts. we'll be back nextus week beca if it is sunday, it is "meet the press. i will leave you th morning not with my words but with senator mccain's words. >> the world is a fine place and worth fighting for i and hate very much to leave it. i do too, i hate to leave it but i don't have a claytomplaint, n one. i made a small place for myself in the story of history of my times.
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he firsthot everybody just turned around and looked and after the second, fourth shots everyone just took off and ran for the exit. >> three are dead,ncluding the shooter believed to be 24-year-old david katz from baltimore after shots rang out in the 2019 video conference. of senatorg the life john mccain, this morning we have new details on what's ahead fr arizona to washington. a stunning allegation against pope francis, f aormer arch bishop accuses him of knowing about allegations against a cardinal and helping to cover it up. family and friends gather for the funeral of mollie tibb.

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