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show in television hitory, this this is what attracted amy all the way from new york. > "meet the press" with chuck these were people who were experts in their field. todd. od sunday morning and and for us that was the best choice. happy labor day weekend to learn more about our breast center at everne. what we saw yesterday was more cancercenter.com/philadelphia than ane fural for john mccain. it was also a longing for what many fear is a los era of american politics. an era when we could agree there's more that unites us than divides us. it was a rebuke of donald trump's presidency and style of politics he's brought to washington. prident trump's name wasot mentioned, john mccain reminded us of whatht he thoby whom he asked to attend and asked to speak. a ma he fought against in 2000. >> for every attempt to forget who we are and grow weary of our cause, his voice is a whisper er our shoulder. we are better than this. america is better than this. >> then the man who defeated

mccain for the presidency in 2008 >> he did understand that some principl transcend plitics. some values transcend party. he considered it pt of his duty to uphold those principles andho those values. >> more than anything or anyone else, there ais ms daughter, meghan. fighting through ars, she delivered a one-two punch of the current occupant w of thte house. here is one. of we gather to mourn the passing american greatness, the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will nevee come the sacrifice he gave so willingly of the appropriation of those who live lives of cfort and privilege while he suffered and rved. >> then, number two. >> america does not bst

cause she has no need to. the america of john mccain has no need to be gr because america was always great. [ applause ] >> president trump was not invited. l spent part of the fune tweeting and left the white house during the funeral by motorcade enroute to his virginia club to play gulf. later in the day, as cable tv plays meghan mccain's remark over and over, the esident tweeted and retweeted, simply, make america great againn all caps. >> we have a lot to get to. joininge is d sullivan. welcome. >> good to be on the show.or thanksaving me. >> you said he was your mentor, senator mccain, became a friend, put his arm around you when you were elected. he nominated y to replait him as head of the international republgoan institute that out there and promotes

democracy. the vision that jo mccain was trying to lay out for people yesterday. what did you take away from the service? >> first, i thought it was a beautifulseice. first, more than that, my condolences to the mccain family, cindy mccain, the ildren. i think that they showed great grace, strength, dignity. i think the service, really the whole week,as been about unity. there's been, as you mentioned at the outset, discussion about the tension between president trump and john mcca this notion of unity is really what i have been seeing. it's unity behind the values of a great american. that's john mccain, courage, someone who loved freom. loved freedom more than anybody because he had it taken away, service to our nation and mentorship, as you mentioned at the outset with me. it's not just me, but democrat and republican senators. so, i thought it's been a very

important week to look at the values he represented. he wasn't a perfect man, he is the first to admi that, and celebrate those. the notion of unity wa much stronger than the tension you report on. >> let me ask you this, how do you make sure that yesterday wasn't a funeral for another era of politics? that this idea that, you know e what, donald trump style of politics is now how you win? john mccain was trying to send e message, no, no, no, don't go down that road. how do you prevent yesterday from being a memorial service from that? >> john mccain was a fighte there's no doubt about that. he also was somebody who famously said that honesty, integrity ishe core value and keeping your word in the senate. ie actually beli that on a lot of issues, there is bipartisanship in th senator mccain has focused on. >> i think there is, too. >> it doesn't get reported on all the

you are going to have amy klobuchar on after me -- >> theresident won't embrace it, though. you are not doing it. >> let me give you c aple examples. bipartisanship that is importt, mccain and trump focus. we passed the national defense authorization act. i think all 85 senators voted for that. that was a mccain-led bill on the armed services committee. it was about rebuilding military,mplementing a new strategy that the president put out. that was very bipartisan. right now, you follow this, chuck, we are working on appropriations bills. the first time since 1979 that were actual working on bills appropriations done, republicans and democrats done in the senate, the president has been pushing that. certainly john mccain was somebody whoelieved in that. my point is, you are right, the message of working together, imrticularly in the memory of john mccain is rtant, but i think a lot of that is

happening. doe have princip differences on some issues? absolutely we do. a lot of tho have been with us for a while. >> how do you explain the president's behavior in regards to john mccain? >> look, we knower s tension between them. the trump administration, overall, was very engaged. you had an important speech the vice president gave at the ceremony of the laying in state in the dome. t yesterdare was a number of folks from the administration -- >> trying to gloss over it, whye president of the united states. >> what i'm trying -- chuck,t m ying to gloss over it. here is what i think is more important. yes, there was tension between the president and john mccain. this week though, has been all about john mccain and the unity of his vision of courage, oftr tism, of freedom, of service before self. i think that's the lesson we should take away from t week. that's what i want --

>> what do you want --ou how president trump? what should he take away from the service? >> there's lot of things the president can learn. look, the book onn, john mcca his great life has been written. right? it's been written. usfor all of you know, whether you, me, the president or other americans watching that, you know, we are still an open book. i think there's a lot of this all of us can do, the president, myself, other americans watching this. e of theings john mccain was about, he knew he was not a perfect man. he knew he mademistakes. president obama and president bush emphasized yesterday, he was always looking for improvement. >> yeah. >> and in himself and hisan countri think that's something we can all take away, whether it's the president or nyone else watching these important, beautiful services. >> something else the president said thiseek about the november elections. he said, it was in a meeting with evangelicals, if the gop loses in november, quote, ty

will overturn everything quickly and violently. then he addre, these violent people, referring to democrats. is tre any basis here? do you understand what he is referring to? >> i don't know. i have not seen that quote and i don't think, you know, democrats are violent people. i haven't seen that quote. what i think is important for the president, other republicans to talk about, a i know y going to talk on the panel, this fall is what we have accomplished, right? one thing that is very important for the american people, in addition to reblding the military is growing the economy. that hitting an economy is the strongest we have seen in decades, consumer optimism up very high, 4.2% gdp growth because of policies. policies of lessengover more freedom, tax reform and regulatory onform. the democratic side, we are seeing leaders elected in

primaries who have a different view of the economy, more focused on the idea of socialism. let's have thatba in the fall. that's an important debate to have on the decision of the economy. i think the vision is working and is strong. >> let me ask you few question that is may come up. jeff sessions, the current attornneral, do you believe he's committed fireable offenses? >> id supporeff sessions when he was nominated. i certainly voted for him. i think 's doing a good job. >> do you think there's a reason for the president to -- >> the president has the constitutional authority to remove him. >> i know that. >> he can do it, is it polidocally wise, t think so. i support jeff sessions and the job he is doing. >> you havebeen helping brett kavanaugh prepare for their cotion hearing. you were preparing him. i con flated two things.

when he says he believes in precedence, that's he is not for overturning roe v. wade. is that how to interpret when he says he is a believer in precedent overall, that's what everamerican should take away, brett kavanaugh does not want to overturn roe v. wade. >> i have known brett kavanaugh a long time. i think he was an inspired choice. he would make a great justice on the preme court. he's been an tstanding judge. he's got a lot of humility, which is a rare quality in this town. i did talk to him about precedence as i did with gorsuch. he actually wrote a book on it. with regar to roe v. wade, i didn't get into the details when i met with him, but -- >> see how silly this is to average americans. they don't understand why we can't get amp answer from supreme court nominees.

this is a thing on both sides of the aisle. why can't we get an answer on that? >> which question? >> he doesn't want to overturn roe v. wade? t >> ink he is going to be asked about this the whole week. we are going to watch on that. this isn't just judge kavanaugh. she said i am not going to predict what mayay or not come before the court, that would be prejudging. that's not the role of a judge. i think on key issues, judge kavanaugh, his skepticism on the power and authority of federal encies is something w need on the court, something that is consistent withthe constitution. these are questions he is going to be asked about. i think he is goingak to an outstanding justice. >> will he recuse himself on >> i think he'll look at the ethics with regard to supreme

cour justice. there's been previous questions. justice kagan had a similar question on litigation. he will do what th code of conducts and ethics require. >> we'll see what he does there. we'll leave it there.th ks for coming on. >> great to be on the show. as weuggested earlier, there was a sense at the national cathedral, with the loss of john mccain came a loss of politics. president obama, amongero made that point. >> so much of our politics, our public life, our public discourse can seem small and mean and petty. trafficking and bombast and insult and phony controversies and manufactured outrage.

it's a politics that pretends to be brave and tough, but, in fact, is born in fear. >> joining me now, on the other side of the aisle, amy klobuchar from minnestha. >> ks, chuck. >> nice to see you. what did you take away from yesterday and did you see it as a -- >> i saw it as a story of mccain, his grieving family and grieving nation. peop who he had run against, people who defeated him. he invited them in. i think it is no surprise that the subject of thest admition came up obliquely from time-to-time. i think george bush actually said it best, to explain it,he said that john mccain's life was defined, int,pa by the fact he detested the abuse of power, whether ite was peo who poisoned opponents or put reporters in jail, or, yes, people who take on immigrants in a way that he felt was

inappropriate, like the president has done or people who would go after fbi agents or p.o.w.s like himself. yes, that was part of john mccain'snd strength character that he was willing to stand-up bullies.on so, i think that is how you saw it come up. it was really ahe part of arc of his life in fighting for those that needed someonegh to for them. >> some of us viewed this week as mlmost amorial service for another era of politics. i talk to other senators, jeff flake, in particular says, no, no, no, it should be a call to arms to bring politics back or compromise back. let's be realistic, both parties right now punish you if either side works too close to the other. how do you get that back? >> you get it back by listenin to john mccain's words. you have to be fighting for a cause greaterrshan yf. you see that from time-to-timee in the sate, especially when

big things happen. you have to do it again. >> do you see it? >> i do. >> go ahead. >> i worked with senator mccain on bringing down the cost of farmer prices, bringing in drugs from othercountries there are other republicans on that bill. i hope that someone else will come and take the lead. he was the only republican on that bill to take on the social media companies to make them put ads out there. i'm asking another republican to get on that bill. you have a number of cas and senator sullivan went through some of them where we workac ss the aisle all the time. ra have to see more of it. when people are of pissing off president trump so they won't work with us,that's a problem. people are going to have to rise to the occasion. >> you are on judiciary? >> yes, i am. >> as you know, the democratic base is upset, upset at democratic leadership. ey feel as if he didn't like the deal that they didn't like

the deal chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell backtracked the judicial. nomine why shouldn't be base be upset about that? >> what matters is what happenh at hearing. you are going to see strong sets of questions from a number of us on th judiciary committee. the point i'm going to make is, this is not normal. you have a nominee with excellents, credentiith his family behind him, the family there and senators questioning. it's not normal. we are not able to see00 100 documents that the archivist, because the administration said we can't see them, they have exerted their executive power. 148,000 documents i have seen that you cannot see because they won't allow to make them public. i can't tell you about them on the show. >> do you thinny of the documents could make him if unqud about the job?

>> you could ask interesting questions that i am unable to sacause i can't make them public. don't know the result of a hearing. >> so, it raises questions to you, what you have seen in these papers that we havesnot seen raoubts in your mind? strongly d bolster, bolster the arguments i could make. the president's campaign chair having been just convicted, you have his lawyer pleading guilty and you have a nominee who has one of the most expansive views of presidential power we have seen in history. this is a guy that says, one, a president should be able to declare a statute constitutional by himself. in writing, he said you should throw out the special counsel statute. this is not normal. >> look at thereality, though. democrats don't have control of the u.s. senate. there is no filibuster a we know why we don't have a

filibuster. this has been a game of chicken that both parties have played. there's nothing you can do unless you do something out of the ordinary. vin deleon running against dia diane fieinstein in california s arguing this, stop playing polite country-club politics tth a supreme court nominee. i guess basic question is, if in a similar situation, what would mitch mcconnell do? >> we know whahe did, but t was because he had the power. to me, the first answer is we need a check and balance. >> some folks are suggesting you should walk out of the yohearin. have heard that. >> that's interesting. you have incredible senators like corey booker and harris and dick durbin, dick blumenthal, diane, you name it. chris coons. patrick n leahy. d the opportunity to ask

the questions. if we walked out, it would be one side asking the questions. i don't think that's the way you examine a nominee and get the facts out. >> you would have the ability to get all these ppers public if there was a threat they needed 60 votes. if democrats get control of the senate back, should the principle be that the filibuster shou come back >> first of all, we would have not supported changing that. >> indstand that. if you get the power, would you support bringing the filibuster back if you get per in november? >> i think we should have had the filibuster in place. by t t way,t sounds like a scary word to people out there. d thaunderst >> it's the idea you have t have consensus. i would like to see 60 votes.k i don't th should have made that change, but it because we wer frustrated because president obama wasn't able to get his nominees. i think we would be in a better

place now. we left the 60te in place for the supreme court. that.mcconnell changed i would prefer to bring it back. we are where we are. i don't think anyone is xwougoio want to hamstring themselv. >> you are on the ballot in november. there's allegations against keith having to do with potential spousal abuseha he explained himself enough to you, as a voter, to feel confident voting for >> he has. there's an article in the new york times that went through this. he is addressing it to the i think it's being reviewed and he is moving forward. >> are you comfortable campaigning with him? >> right now, i am focused on judge kavanaugh. he hasn't ask me. we have a strong ticket. we have a governor's race focused onhat. >> so, if he asked, would you campaign for him? >> i wi campaign with our

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united than it may seem in its ha hatred of donald trump. >> it was interesting you asked the question about, this was a certain memorial service of an era of politics that is no longer withus. i would also argue that era left us a long time ago. this world that we are in, the tribalism, the polarization, the incentive structure pulled us to this pl before donald trump ever came and that he is exasperating it rk, there's no doubt. the service, itself, i think, the callet to ourr angels, our bettering selves stands out becae of the contrast with the president. i think whoever was president right now, these issues would still be the driving force and we are noting to get past it because of the fact there is no incentive for folks to try to bridge -- >> amy klobuchar admitted that in theon ques

i'm old enough to remember when george w. bush was the most divisive president in our lifetimes, yet they were making a call to arms for a more civil time of politics. > becomill clinton, too. ted kennedy at his funeral, there was a call for unityke he w across the aisle. not cliche, i think it's real. this was deeply personal. there's no question it was deeply personal. there's no presidentgn poitly not invited to an event like this. yes, this envirment was created and donald trump might be pitpetuating but i think this is very trump specific. larger words and concepts like unity are important buthis is trump specific. >> it was trump -- the president that bothered so many people.re ly, i guess we should be

glad he didn't tweet a negative, but that's a lowball. >> the feud began with comments by trump, but became something larger. there was an id logical component toerit talking john mccain's ideas, when i looked at the ceremony, a john mccain designing to rebuttal president trump's inaugural a address fro year and a half. we went from american carnage ta the ameidea of promise. we went from a negative speech to a positive speech. everything is fine.a americ doesn't need to be made great again. the truth is john mccain's america, t amer that was represented at the national cathedral sterday doesn't need to be made great again because it's doing fine. e contrast is with trump and who trump represents. for them, america is not doing fine. they like the negative message. >> kimmerly, there was part ofm hat felt like is this scene going to be seen as the last gathering as the revolutionaries

come with their pitch forks or this call to arms where, whoa, whoa, whoa, were going stabilize america? >> i think it depends on who you ask. for some people, it will be both. i think it's important tomb re, as much as we are talking bipartisanism, a bygone era, remember, the fight between john mccain and barack obama were they are on opposite side of issues. as soon as polic came out of the white house, our inbox was fill with john mccain's office escorting what h did. yesterday, when he stood up there to speak, he was listeded in program as friend. friend first, president of the united states after. they had respect. there was partisanism and tou battles, but not the pettiness. that's what people were

addressing. >> one moment that stood out for me, barack obama talked privately in the white house from time-to-time. no one advertiseed that. >> that is the first i have heard that. >> >> what was interesting is he ended saying we never doubted we were on the same team. he said it twice. when i hear team, i think that actually gives loyalty to america. when i hear team, i think patriotism. we bh never doubted they were trying to move the country forward. to me, it was very, very poignantav >> now we he a country not on the same t two americas not on the same team and you have to choose a side. you are on this team or that. >> if you are not on the right side of the team,ou are unpatriotic. >> we are fighting over who gets to define patriotism. we have having a fightver patriotism. >> one of the eulogies that struck meas henrykissingers.

mccain brought in ideas that aren't normally part of the discussion in washington. courage, honor and character. these are all value that is were important to john mccain's approach to politics and one reason he was able to create relationships across the aisle. these are values that, i think, are diminished and come from john mccain's experience in the u.s. military. >> this week, besides being about john mccain, therwere days, i want to put up the president's thursday tweet storm, the one where yoare like, is this just more of the same from him orsomething big. literally, a rat a tat tat, a tweet gun issued. rigged russia witch hunt. lester holt got caught fudging my tape on russia. is there part ofay meg something is new. the walls are always closing in

or t imp. wh it? >> about keeping that energy up all the time of people who are his team to say never, ever take your eye off the ball. the second youy do, te going to come and get us. you have to keep this energy as it. of i do think that this is with the remarkable piece of this entire campaign is. you havenenator sulli saying, remember the economy is doing great. everybody is happ we should be doing well this election season. there's not one tweetre in t about how great the economy is doing. >> he does not know h to campaign on the economy. i'm going to pause this conversation here. who we come back, the man won the democratic nomination to be florida governor. be florida governor. he sets up a battle with an so, the whole world is talking about ai. big, bold promises like... it'll find life on mars! but here's the thing. you don't live on mars. (beep) you build wind turbines. supply car parts to thousands of cities.

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we'll help determine whether it he safe for the two parties to abandon middle and fire up the basis. on day onef the campaign,is desant said this -- >> he is an articular spokesman for the far left views and charismatic. the last thing we need to do is monkey t up with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state. >> desantis and the team say it didn't have connotations. they no longer use whi le calls, they are useing full blow horns. joining me is andrew gillum. we asked congressman desantiso appear, but he declined. mayor gillum, welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you so much. i just want to quickly say, yesterday's display of true

patriotism w something to behold in today's america. it was inspiring. all the speeches moved me personally. >> thank you for sharing that. let me star with the start of this campaign. you had that back and forth with your opponent. a neonazi group had thingsto say. i think they are trying to get free publicity. are you shocked how quickly republicans shot that down and how they don't want to make racu an i in this campaign? >> what is important is mr.sa is and the president try to go high on this thing. we cannot afford to weaponize race and to go to the bottom of the barrel here.ne ly, people are going take their queues from what their leadership t says. s case, ron desantis is

the leader. therefore, he's got to be very, very careful about how he addresses these kinds of issues. i'm pleased to see them. it's also important that ron desantis take control and ownership of his rhetoric and wordno we that given the highly sensitive nature we have found ourselves, people take their queues and act out in ways that go beyond what is appropriate in todas environment >> you do not think congressman desantis is a racist, do you? >> i have not called him a racist. >> i know you haven't. >> i said his rhetoric, in my opinion, h to be toned down. i will call him is someone who has worked to undermine the health care system. someone who decided to join with donald trump to give more and more money away to the largest corporations. i'm happy to debate him on the merritts of public policy.

i am not going to get into the gutter and name callit not what florida voters are interested in and why i ran for governor. i'm here to talk about the issues of our state. >> you ran as ademocrat. you are for medicare for all. you talked of getti rid o i.c.e. and things there. i'm curious, one of the things you were supported by two billionaires who came in and helped your campaign and largely, your campaign early on was fundedby them. how do you square, sort of a populous, progressive campaign that wants to get big money out of politics, dark money out of politics, yet it's billthnaires prop up your campaign? >> well, i'll tell you, i'mep fom i haveis, our campaign wasm

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