this sunday, a funeral and a rebukeys the country ood-bye to an american hero. john mccain. >> he meat a better presence as made the senate this country b. >>'s what the senat daughter, among others, taking aim at president trump. >> the americ john mccain has no need to be made great again because america was always great. >> president trump responds ake americaweeting, great again. points.s, pressure president trump claims if democrats win back congress, they will overturn everything we have done and do it quily and violently. >> i hope there won't be violence. >>nd warns he can step in

against the mueller investigation. >> i will get involved and in there, if i have to. >> this means the white house is not prepared for what may b coming. >> republican senator, dan of alaska and amy klobuchar of miesota. >>plus, all about that bass. florida republicans pick a die rd trump supporter. >> i was able to talk to the resident andthank him for his suppor >> an unapologetic progressive. is this showdown for governor where theuntry is headed? this morning, i talk to democratic nominee andrew. joining me are amy walter, national editor for the cook political report. mark leibovich, kimberly at tins correspondent for theboon harold and matthew. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press."

announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longestunning show in television history, this is "meet the press" wh chuck todd. good sunday morning and l happor day weekend to everyone. what we saw yesterday was more than a funeral for john mccain. it was als a longing for what many fear is a lost era of american politics. an era when we could agree there's more that unites us than divides us. it was a rebuke na d trump's presidency and style of politics he's brght to washington. president trump's name was not mentioned, john mccain reminded us of what he thought by whom hd aske to attend and asked to speak. ma he fought against in 2000. >> for every attempto forget who we are and grow weary of our cause, his voice is a whisper over our shoulder. we are better than this.

america is better than this. >> then the man who defeated cainr the presidency in 2008. >> he did understand that some principles transcend politics. somes transcend party. he considered it part of his duty to uphold those principles md uphold those values. >>e than anything or anyone else, there was mccain's daughter, meghan. fighting through tears, she delivered anewo punch of the current occupant of the white house. here is >> we gather to mourn the passing of americanre ness, the real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly of the appropriion of those who live lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served.

>> then, number two. >> america does not boast because she has no need to. the america of john mccain has no need to be great again because america was always great. [ applause ] >> presint trump was not invited. he spent part of thefuneral tweeting and left the white use during the funeral by istorcade enroute to virginia club to play gulf. later in the day, as cable tv plays meghan mccain remark over and over, the president tweeted and retweeted, simply, make america great aain in all caps. >> we have a lot to get to. joining me is dan sullivan. welcome. >> good to be on the show. thanks for having me. mentor,said he was your senator mccain, became a friend, put hro armd you when you were elected. he nominated you to replait h as head of the international

republican institute that goes out there and promotes democracy. the vision tha john mccain was trying to lay out for people yesterday. what did you take away fro the service? >> first, i thought it was a beautiful service. first, more than that, my condolences to the mcca family, cindy mccain, the children. i think that they showed great grace, strength, dignity. i think the service, really the whole week, has been about unity. there's been, as you mentioned at the outset, discussion about the tension between president trump and john mccain. this notion of unity is really what i have been see g. it's unitbehind the values of a great american. that's john mccain, courage, someone who loved freedom. e thaned freedom m anybody because he had it taken away, service to our nation and mentorship, as you mentionedt the outset with me. it's not just me, but democrat and repuican senators.

so, i thought it's been a very important week to look at the values he represented. he wasn't a perfect man, he is the first to admit that, and celebrate those. the notion of unis much stronger than the tension you report on. >> let me ask you this, though, how do you make sure that yesterday wasn't a funeral for another era politics? that this idea that, you know what, the donald trump style of politics is now how you win? john mccain was trying to send the message, no, no, no, don't go down that road. how do you prevent yesterday from being a memorial service from that? >> john mccain was a fighter, there's no doubt about that. he also was somebody who famously said that honesty, integrity is the core value and keeping your word in the senate. i actually believe that on a lot of issues, there is bipartisanship in the way senator mccain ocsed on. >> i think there is, too.

>> it doesn't get r all the time. you are going to have amy me --har on after >> the president won't embrace it, though. you are not doing it. >> let give you a couple examples. bipartisanship that isim rtant, mccain and trump focus. we passed the national defense authorization i think all 85 senators voted for that. that was al mccain-led bn the armed services committee. t was about rebuilding military, implementing a new strategy that the president put out. that was ver bipartisan. right now, you follow this, chk, we are worki on appropriations bills. the first time since 1979we tha re actually working on getting appropriations bills done, republicans and iemocrats dothe senate, the president has been pushing that. certainly john mccain washo somebody believed in that. my point is, you are right, the messag working together, ofticularly in the memory john mccain is important, but i

think a lot of that is happening. we have principle differences on some issues? absolutely we do. a lot of those have been with us foa while. >> how do you explain the president's behaviornegards to john mccain? >> look, we know there's tension between them. the trump administration, overall, was very engaged. you had an important speech the vice president gave at thee ceremony of aying in state in the dome. yesterday, there was a number of folks from the administration -- >> trying to gloss over it, why? of the united states. >> what i'm trying -- chuck, i'm not trying to gloss over here is what i think is more important. yes, there was tension between the president and john mccain. this week, though, has been all about john mccain and the unity of his vision of courage, of patriotism, of freedom, of service before sthf. k that's the lesson we

should take away from the week. that's what i want -- >> what do you want -- how about president trump? what should he take away from e service? >> there's a lot of things the president can learn. look, the boo on john mccain, his great life has been written. right? it's bee for all of us, you know, whether you, me, the president or americans watching that, you book.we are still an open i think there's a lot of things all of us can do, the president, myself, other americans watching this. one of the things john mccain was about, he knew he was not a perfect man.he new he made mistakes. president obama and president bush emphasizedheyesterday was always looking for improvement. >> yeah. >> and in himself and his country and i think that's something we can all take away, whether it's t president or anyone else watching these important, beautiful servicels >> something the president said this week about the november election, he sait was in a meeting with evangelicals, if the gop

loses in november, quote, they will overturn everything quickly and violently. then he added, these are violent people, referring to democrats. is there any basis here? do you understand what he is ferring to? >> i don't know. i have not seen that quote and i don't think, you know, democrats are violent people. i haven't seen that quote. what i ttnk is import for the president, other republicans to talk about, i know you are going to talk on the panel, this fall is what we have gh accomplished, one thing that is very important for the american people, in dition to rebuilding the military is growing the economy. we are hitting an economy that is the strongest we have sen in decades, consumer optimism up very high, 4.2% gdp growth because of policies. policies of less government, more freedom, tax reform and regulary reform.

on the democratic side, we are seeing leaders elected inim ies who have a different view of the economy, more focused the idea of socialism. let's have that debate in the fall. that's an importan debate to have on the decision of growing the economy. i think the vision is working and is strong. >> let me ask you a few question that is may come up. jeff sessions, the current attorney general, do you believe he's committed fireable offenses >> i supported jeff sessions when he was nominated. i cortainly voted him. i think he's doing a good job. >> do you think there's a reason for the president to -- >> the president has the constitutional authority to remove him. >> i know that. >> he can do it, is it litically wise, i don't think so. i support jeff sessions and the job he is doing.av >> you been helping brett kavanaugh prepare for the confirmation hearu g. re preparing him.

i conflated two things. when he says he believes in precedence, that's he is not for overturning roe v. wade. is that how to interpr when he says he is a believer in precedent overall, that's wat ery american should take away, brett kavanaugh does not want to overturn roe v. wade. >> i have knownrt kavanaugh a long time. i think he was an inspired choice. he would make a great justice on the supreme court. he's been an outstanding judge. he's got a lot of humility, which is a rare quality in this town. i did talk to him about precedence as i did with he actually wrote a book on it. wade, i ard to roe v. didn't get into the details when i met with him, but -- s to e how silly this average americans. they don't understand why we can't get a simple answer from

supreme court nominees. this is a thing on both sides of the aisle. why can't we get n answer that? >> which question? >> hedoesn't want to overturn roe v. wade? >> i think he is going to be asked about this the whole week. we are going to watch on that. this isn't just judge kavanaugh. she said i am not going to m predict wh or may not come before the court, that would be prejudging. 's not the role of a judge. i think on key issues, judge kavanaugh, his skepticism on t power and authority of federal agencies is something we need on the court, something that is constent with the constitution. these are questions he is going to be asked about. inthink he is to make an outstanding justice. >> will he recusehimself on subpoenas? >> i think he'll look at the

ethics with regard to supreme court justice. there's been prevus questions. justice kagan had a similar question on litigation. he will do what the code of conducts a ethics require. >> we'll see wh does there. we'll leave it there. thanks for coming on.o >> great on the show. as we suggested earlier, there was anse at the national cathedral, with the loss of john mccain came a loss of politics. president obama, among others, made that point.ch >> so of our politics, our public life, our public discourse can seem smallnd mean and petty. trafficking and bombast and insu and phony controversies and manufactured outrage.ol

it's aics that pretends to be brave and tough, but, in fact, is born in fear. >> joining me now, on the other side of the aisle, amy klobuchar from mnnesota. >> thanks, chuck. >> nice to see you. what did you ta away from yesterday and did you see it as >> i saw it as a story of john mccain, his grieving family and grieving nation. people who he had run against, people who defeatedhe him. invited them in. i think it is no surprise that the subject of the administration came up obliquely from time-to-time.e i think geosh actually said it best, to explain it, he said that john mccais life was defined, in part, by the fact he detested the abuse of power, whether it was people who poisoned opponents or put reporters jail, or, yes, people who take on immigrants in

a way tha he felt was inappropriate, like the president has done or people who wod gofter fbi agents or p.o.w.s like himself. yes, tha was part of john mccain's strength and character that he was wling to stand-up and take on bullies. so, i think that is how you saw it come up. itas really part of the arc of his life in fighting for those thateo needed s to fight for them. >> some of us viewed this wek as almost a memorial service for another era of politics. i tal to other senators, jeff flake, in particularnosays, no, no, it should be a call to arms to bring politics back or compromise back. let's be realistic, both parties right now punish you if either hode works too close to the other. do you get that back? >> you get it back by listening words.n mccain's you have to be fighting for a cause greater than yourself. you see that from time-to-time

in the senate, especially when big things happeyo have to do it again. >> do you see it? >> i do. >> go ahead. >> i worked with senator mccain on bringing down the cost of farmer prices, bringing in drugs fr other countries. there are other republicans on that bill. i hope that someone else willd come ake the lead. he was theubnly rcan on that bill to take on the social media companies to mak them put ads out there. i'm asking another republican to get that bill. you have a number of cases and senator sullivan went through some of them where we work across the aisle all the time. we have to see more of . when people are afraid of pissing off president trump so they won't worwith us, that's a problem. people are going to have toise to the occasion. >> you are on judicisy? >> i am. >> as you know, the democratic base is upset, upset at democratic leadership. they feel as if he didn't like

the deal that they didn't like the deal chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell backtracked the jucial nominees. why shouldn't be base be upset about tha >> what matters is what happens at the hearing. you are going to see strong sets of questions from a number of us on the judiciary committee. the point i'm going to makeis, this is not normal. you have a nominee with exllent credentials, with his family behind him, the e mily thd senators questioning. it's not normal. we are not able to see 100,000 documents that the archivist, because e administration said we can't see them, they have exerted their executive power. 148,000 documents i have seen that you cannot see because they won't allow us to make them public. i can't tell you about them on e show. >> do you think any of the documents could make m

unqualified about the job? >> you could ask interesting questions that i am unable to say because i can't make them public. i don't know the result of a hearing. >> so, it rais questions to you, what you have seen in these papers that we have not seen raises doubts in your mind? >> it would bolster, strongly bolster theme ars i could make. the president's campaign chair having been just convicted, you have his lawyer pleading guilty and you have a nominee who has one of the most expansive views of presidential power we have seen inry his this is a guy that says, one, a president should be able to declare a statute constitutional by himself. in writing, he said you should throw out the special counsel statute. this is not normal. >> look at the reality, though. democrats don't have control of the u.s. sena. there is no filibuster and we

know why we don't have a filibuster. this has been a game of chicken that both parties have played. there's nothing you can do. unless youin do some out of the ordinary. kevin deleon running agains dia diane fieinstein in california s arguing this, stop playing polite country-clubli pcs with a supreme court nominee. i guess the basici question if in a similar situationtcwhat would mcconnell do? >> we know what he did, but that was because he had thewe to me, the first answer is we need a check and balance. >> some folks a suggesting you should walk out of the hearing. you have heard that. >> that's interesting. you have incredible senators like corey booker and harris and dick durbin, dick blumenthal, diane, you name it. chris coons.

patrick leahy. we need the opportunity to ask the questions. if we walked out, it would one side asking the questions. i don't think that's the way you examine a nominee and get the facts out. >> you wouldth have ability to get all these papers public if there was a threat they needed 60 votes. if democrats get control of the thate back, should principle be that the filibuster should come back? >> first of all, we would have not supported changing that. >> i understand that. if you get the power, would you support bringing the filibuster back if you get power in november? >> ihink we shouldave had the filibuster in place. by the way, that sounds like a scary word to people out there. >> i understand that. >> it's the idea you have to have consensus. would like to see 60 votes. i don't think we should have made that chae, butt happened because we were frustrated because president

obama sn't able to ge his nominees. i think we would be in a better place now. we left the 60 votes in place for theupreme court. mitch mcconnell changed that. i would prefer to bringit back. we are where we are. i don't think anyone i xwoungoio want to hamstring themselves. >> you are on the baot in november. there's allegations against keith having to do with potential spousal abuse. has he explained himself enough to you, as a voter, to feel confident voting for him? >> he there's an article in the new york times that went through this. he is addressing it to the people of minnesota. i think it's being reviewed and he is moving forward. >> are you comfortable campaigning with h>>? ight now, i am focused on dge kavanaugh. he hasn't asked me. we have a strong ticket. we have a governor's race focused on that. >> so, if heasked, would you

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called it civicon commu the city is much more bipartisan than it has ever been, more united than it may seem in its ha hatred of donald trump. >> it was interesting you asked the question about, this was a certain memorial service of an era of politics that iserno loith us. i would also argue that era left us a long time ago. this world that we are in, the ibalism, the polarization, the toentive structure pulled us this place before donald trump ever came and that he is exasperating it rk, there's no doubt. the service, itself, i think, the callo our better angels, our bettering selves stands out because of the contrast with the president. i think whoever was president right now, these issues would still be the driving force n an we a going to get past it because of the fact there is no incentive for to try to

bridge -- >> a kbuchar admitted that in the question. i'm old enough to remember when george w. bush was the mo divisive president in our lifetimes, yet they were making a call to arms for a more civil time of politics. >> boill clinton, too. ted kennedy at hisfuneral, there was a call for unity. he worked across the aisle. not cliche, i think it's real. this was deeply personal. there's no question it wa eply personal. there's no psident poignantly not invited to an event like this. yes, thme environ was created and donald trump might be perpetuating it, but i think this is very trump specifi larger words and concepts like unity are importantbut this is trump specific. >> it was trump-- the president

that bothered so many people. really, i guess we should be glad he didn'tweet anegative, but that's a lowball. >> the feud began with comments by trump, but became something larger. there was an id logical mponent to here. talking john mccain's ideas, when i looked at the cereny, i saw john mccain designing to rebuttal president trump's inaugural address from a year and a half. we went from american carnage the american idea of promise. we went from a negative speech to a positive speech. everything is fine. america doesn't need to be made great again. the truth is john mccain's america, the america that was represented at the national da cathedral yest doesn't need to be made great again because it's doing fne. th contrast is with trump and who trump represents. for them, america is not doing fine. they like the negative message. >> kimmerly, there was part of

me that felt like is this scene going to be seen as the last gathering as the revolutionaries come with their pitc forks or this call to arms where, whoa, whoa, whoa, we a going stabilize america? >> i think it depends on who you ask. for some people, it will be both. i think it's important to remember, as much as we are talking bipartisanism, a bygone era, remember, the fight between john mccain and barack obama were tough. they are on opposite side of issues. n as policy came out of the white house, our inbox wash filled wohn mccain's office escorting what he did. yesterday, when he stood up there to speak, he was listeded in program as friend. friend first, president of the united states after. they had respect.

there wasartisanism and tough battles, but not the pettiness. that's what people were addressing. >> one moment that stood out for me, barack obama talked privately in the white house from time-to-time. no one advertiseed that. >> that is the first i have heard that. >> but i believe it. >> what was interesting is he ended saying we never doted we were on the same team. he said it twice. when i hear team, ti thinkt actually gives loyalty to america. when i hearteam, i think patrtism. we bot never doubted they were trying to move the country forward. to me, it was very, very poignant. >> now we have a country not on e same team. two americas not on the same team and you have to choose a side. you are on this teayoor that. >> iare not on the right side of the team, you are unpatriotic. >> we are fighting over who gets to define patriotism.

we have having a fight over patriotism. >> one of the eulogies that struck me was henry kissingers. mccain brought in ideas that aren't normally part of the i discussi washington. courage, honor and character. ese are all value that is were important to john mccain's approach to politics and one reason hwas able to create relationships across the aisle. these are values that, i think, are diminmehed and rom john mccain's experience in the u.s. military. >> this week, besides being about john mccain, there were days, i want to put up the president's thursday tweet storm, the one where you are like, is this just more of the same from hime or ing big. literally, a rat a tat tat, a tweet gun issued. riched russia w hunt. lester holt got caught fudging my tape on russia.

is there part of me saying something is new. p.e walls are always closing in or tru what is it? >> about keeping that energy up all the time of peop whore on his team to say never, ever take your eye off the ball. the second you do, they are going to come and get us. you have to keep this energy as part of it. i do think that this is with the remarkable piece ofhis entire campaign is. you have senator sullivan saying, remember the economy is doing great. everybody is happy. we should be doing well this election season. there's not one tweetin there about how great the economy is doing. >> he does not know how to campaign on the economy. i'm going tois pause conversation here. when we come back, the man who won the democraticn nominat to be florida governor. be florida governor. he sets up a battle with an be florida governor. he sets up a battle with an just another day on the farm. or is it? this farmer's morning starts in outer space.

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welcome back. we saw another huge upset in a democratic primary. this state in florida. tallassee mayor andrew gillum is unapologetic and against a trump supporter, ron desantis. it's base against base. we'll help determine whether it is safe for the two parties to abandon the middle and fire up the basis. on dayf one the campaign,d desantis sai this -- he is an articular spokesman for the far left ews and charismatic. the last thing we need to do is monkey this up with huge tax

increases and bankrupting thest e. >> desantis a the team say it didn't ve connotations. they no longer use whistle calls, they areei full blow horns. joining me is andrew gillum we asked congressman desantis to appear, but he declined. mayor gillum, welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you so much. i just want to quickly say, yesterday's display of true patriotism was something to behold in today's america. it was inspiring. all the speeches moved me personally. >> thank you for sharing that. let me start with the start of this campaign. you had that back and forth with your opponent. aneonazi group had things to

say. i think they are trying to get free publicity. are you shocked how quickly republicans shot that down and how they don't want to make race an issu in this campaign? >> what is important is mr. a desant the president try to go high on this thing. we cannot afford to race and to go to the bottom of the barrel here. honestly, people are going take their queues from what their leadership says. in this case, ron desantis is the leader. therefore, he's got to be very, very careful aboutow he addresses these kinds of issues. i'mleased to see them. it's also important that ron desantis take control and ownership of his rhetoric and words.t we know t given the highly sensitive nature we have found ourselves,e peotake their

queues and act out in ways that go beyond what is appropriate in today's environment. >> you do not think congressman desantis is a racist, do you? >> i have not called him a racist. >> i know you haven't. >> i said his rhetoric,n my opinion, has to be toned down. i will call him is someone who has worked to undermine the health care system. someone who decided to join with donald trump to give more and more money away to the largest corporations. i'm happy to debate him on the merritts of public policy. i am not going to et intoe gutter and name call. it's not what florida voters are interested in and why i ran for governor. i'm here to talk about the issues of our state. >> you ran as a democrat. you are for medicare for all. you talked of getting rid of i.c.e. and things there. i'm curious, one of the things you were supported by two c

billionaires we in and helped your campaign and largely, your campaign rly on was funded by them. how do you uare, sort of a populous, progressive campaign that wants to get big money out of politics, dark money out of politics, yet it's billio pires thp up your campaign? >> well, i'll tell you, i'mly de appreciative of both men, whom i have known for some time. the truth is, our campaign was propped up by small contributions including my mother. in the first two days of this election our campaign has been void, raiseing overil $2on by every day folks, not big contributions, but every day folks sowing a seed into it. that is what is going to help us win on november 6. the every day folks deciding to

sow a seed in the race. >> theemocratic governor's association made a $1 million investment. it sounds like a lot of money, but it's the state of florida. i think there's 17,000 media markets by last count, i'm exaggerating slightly. some say there wasro a missing there. do you think they are showing you enough support? >> well, i will tell you, chuck, i have every expectation they are going to come into th race strong. one, you know this being a home boy yourse, the implications here in florida are so great, not just inor this race governor and the cabinet, but the united states senate. i think theng pai of bill nelson and myself and the other members of the cabinet, not to mention the legislative races are critical for 2020 implications. i expect they are going to come in and have our back. the truth is, we are not going to wait or rely on that. we need every day people to sow

a seed in this ce. we are trying to run a campaign similar to the primary, through the strength and support of every day folks willing to sow i se this campaign. >> you have been propelled a bit onna the nat stage, "the new york times" dives deeper into the fbi investigation that has been taking place in the cy of tallahassee. i have read the story complete. you said the fbi told you you are not a focus of the investigation. i few questions. first is, when did you find out it was a sting operation? >> well, this came to light for me, iassume sometime last year when i was first contacted by two agents that wanted to talk to me. i spoke to them for 20 minutes. in that meeting, they told me i was not a target of their investigation and asked me questions, specifically, about one of my or someone else. what we have tried and i think it's important point this out, the city of tallahassee is

under investigation. we had worked to be as cooperative as we can. anyone who has done anything wrong ought to be held accountable. contrast that to desantis trump. they worked to undermine the work of this agency. the presidentgoing so far to suggest a deep state. what we said is we wa this thing resolved. anyoneg do anything wrong should be held accountable. that's how youse handle t things, not standing in the way. >> there's perception and reality. have you changed your behavior given this experience you have gone through? >> well, i will tell you, i am obviously moreircumspect about everything. part of being elected at the age of 23re and notly having to be, you know, overly cautious or distrustful at the local level. i think i was a bitth naive everybody that comes into my space has good intentions.

i know that i would have changed any interactions, but it made me more skrut -- scutinous. a lot of people that have good intentions for me, my family and my community. "the new york times" says you were going to provide receipts having to do with a couple trips having to do with lobbyists. they haven't been provided. should we expect that soon? >> you should. my commitment is t mke every receipt available. i have nothing to hide. i have onetinterview l with the ethics board this week. following that, we will make them available. i wanted the process to work the way it was intended to. >> thank you sir.ec i apte it. >> thanks for having me. thank you. when we come

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there is no democratic candidate running. nearly 40, 4-0, where there's no republican candidateunning either. we have noted how diverse this pool has become. this is the year of the woman. the number of women nominees see rds. 21 for senate. 226 for the house. by the way, our friend david wasserman notes that in house district that is don't have incumbents, democrats nomominat women in 50% of the races. cases.cans in 18% of the what does this mean for november? there's a lot of talk if we w. it's too early to make the prediction. the numbers show thett field is heavily tilted toward the democrats, particular in the house. only five democratic held seats a comp pettive. 65 are rated the same. these are places the incumbent

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back now with end game or should we say big game? the nfl begins latder this week. nothing, not even the nfl avoids politics. 43% of voters believe kneeling is an appropriate way to approach racial inequality. 54% say it is not appropriate. 72% of democrats say kneeling is appropriate versus 23% who say it isn't. for republicans, the numbers are

reversed. there is a raci divide by a margin of 70-28 african-american. whites say no by a 20-point margin, 58-38. the president must ha sports on his mind this morning because he tweeted tiger woods showed class. thee so-called is angry at him. the center and left tiger, kanye and other greats. obviously, you have the bookmark,he issue of the anthem, trmp, racial politics. >> they should have given him to the buffalo bills in2 4 to avoid all ofhi president trump can't get into the club. donald trump is a real knack or discovering culture wars. the nfl, even before colin kaepernick is something he thought was a metaphor for t

softness of america. he thought there were too many les. he saw the heartland of football in pennsylvania and alabamand ohio very much mimicked his owno heartland, h base of support. in some ways, footbalnaand trump became the two big spectacles of american life. it was inevitable they would merge. >> this culture, it'sin intere with football, almost asf the president sided with them. it is a part of his base. if you look at his base of voters, they are, sort of the base, the heart and soul of, if you went to any college football game in america, the strength. >> the people are losing therest in the nfl as protests over the flag and anthem take place. a few things struck me. first, trump is on the majority side. send, you mention the

polarization. i's important because of the discussions ofis pop they tend to see it through an economic lens there's also a alltural lens that has to do with the americ patriotism and the american story. trump is effective in seizing on the symbols, polarizing them. >> also easy when the cultural issue ishat white america is comfortable with. as long as white america is comfortable, you are going to be on the majority side of it.re that's whe's been able to be successful. what hasn't gotten discussed as much, this is where the discussion really needs to go, it's always about trump and kneeling and what it means. the core issue is no matter how much wealth, prestige, influence you have, if you are black in erica, the racism and race is going to be the most important factor in your i life. agree. economic anxietys a euphemism

for nationalism. anationalism hasal and cultural undertones. >> i want to go to the aspect of this. it's what the president was getting at with tiger e ods. th now, i think nfl players, especially african-american players, on one hand, the community expects them, hey, don't back down. at the same time, pressure the other way. mo and more athletes encouraged to speak up. for inks that will be good him, too. >> he thinks the stronger thist war isharder he sees himself as battling this cultural and racial war, the better it is for him politically. isn't just about the idea of the flag. that's another euphemism for trying to take sides ofpurely a political calculation. i take what mark said about not being able to be a member of the club. this is a political calculation

he thinks is going to benefit him at the end.is s nothing new. i don't think you are going to see the players backing dows this nothing new. black athletes have been taking strong pal stances and putting themselves at the forefront of the issue for decades. >> that has to be the last word. thank you all. thank you for watching. we will be back next week.ay if it's sundit's "meet the press." we are going to leave you with the final moments of john mccain's funeral yesterday, the singing of "danny boy." ♪ ♪ or in shadow for danny boy, oh

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