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this sunday closing arguments. president trump and the republicans focing on immigration. >> republicans want strong borders, n drugs, no caravans. >> you mean the people of texas ravan?he stop the >> secure our border, build the wall. >> while democrats talkhe about th care. >> you're going to have a governor who will work to expand medicaid. >> health care is on the ballot this year. >> and who we are as a nation. >> maybe most of all ther characf our country is on the ballot. >> this morning we're onnd the grn four of the most important battleground states, arizona, missouri, florida and texas. plus i'll talk to stacy abram
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and governor bill hazlemas one look at where the race stands. will democrats win back the house? will republicans make gainsn senate? what message will voters be sending to president trump? we'll have t results of our final midterm nbc news wall reet journal poll. joining me for insidanalysis, savannah guthrie, kasie hunt. cornell and nbc news correspondent tom brokaw. welcome to sunday and a speciali erm edition of "meet the press." good sunday morning fromdqur election hrters right here. we are reporting on the first
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national referendum on the trump presidency. at stake, all 435 house states. 35 senate seats this year. 36 governors races and thousands of state legislati seatsn the ballot. for the democrats great night for them would be winning back the house convincingly. somehow even gaining a senate seat. even if g they don'tn control and winning nearly a dozen governors mansions. the republican m, hanging onto this house. solidifying their hold on the nate with gain of three or four seats hitting 54-55 in total, and holding their losses in governors races to fewer than five. we hav t two day go. we have a new poll completed early this morning. we were cling that late. among likely voters, democrats have a seven-point lead. that's a slightve impnt for the republicans compared to two weeks ago when the democrats lead 50 to 41. like so much about this midterm
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election, how people votes reflects how they feel about president trump. the job rating has chand. it's 4 approve. 52% disapprove. a 46% j rating for a sitting president would mean his party was aded for a big defeat. is it possible president trump has changed the rules or that the geography of our political divide has changed the rules?le even thoughion day is tuesday, some 33 million people have voted. it's a record for thearly vote for midterms. we could be on our fir ever midterm with 100 million voters. have correspondents across the country. the are the big four states we're focused on now. we'll begin in arizona where mocrats are hoping to pick up an open senate seat. vaughn, this is very, very close and in many ways democrats think if they can't win an arizona senate seat this time, when can
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they. >> reporter:rina is the place where barry birth to modern day conservat e conservats conservativism. it's the democrat who is trying to take the political mantle as the arizo maverick. she's been up on the airways highlightingerself as that nd western indepet. if you look at martha mcsalcsal, the republican,he's stood solidly behind president trump. having conversation os on the ground, there's m beeny mdependents who have expressed frustration witcsally standing by the president. namely with that health care vo that would have weakened protections for those with conditionsg it will be quite telling on tuesday night what the future of ikizona looks here. chuck. >> thanks very much.
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on guarantee, arizona will be sending a woman to the united states senate. that we do know c and call with confidence. let's turn to st. louis, missouri wherega m radford is there. claire maskill is in danger of losing the senate seat. josh hawley had agreed to be our guest buted cance late yesterday afternoon citing his campaign schedule. don't think it was lost on us that a couple of polls have shown a consistent hawleyead shrinking to a tie. what's going on? >> reporter: that's why he's doubling do. he's decid to fire up his bas and focus on telling voters that control of the senate could come missou every poll shows him locked in a deadccas ill. she' fight of her political life. her team says the vote in missouri isn'th as muc about president trump as people outside of the state are led to believe. she says her voters care about
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health care and about keeping local jobs. if you cross the aisle and talk to her voters, they say the number one issue is 'smigration. wh interesting here is it's going to come down to who can peel off the modere voters and in which direction. here in missouri, unlike a lot of those otherstates, there's no straight ticket voting. there's also no early eyvoting. ill keep us guessing until the very end. >> missouri will tell us what the late voter decided because of that lk of ear vote. well done there. thanks very much. now to florida. it has everything. race.ht governor's a tight senate race. a half a dozen competiti house races. katie beck is in south daytona for us we h the president there last night. i have to say, is theret something toth ron desantis and rick scott, the two republicans at the top of the ticket, did they need this last night? did they need donald trump there in florida? >> donald trump thinks so. he's been making florida a tough
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adiority on the campaign trail. he's multiple stops here including one just last night in pe pensacola, florida. he said barbed wire at the u b. border c a beautiful sight. this state is evenly divided when it comes to thee senate r and the gubernatorial race. folks are counting on those endorsements, counting on the support from the president. we'll see more trump support headed this way when rudy giuliani heads to daytona beach to campaign for ron desant. >>thanks. in florida it's going to be about what is the composition of the ecrate. how much is white, how much is nonh nonh non-white? we won't know that until election da let's go to garrett. 'sto o'rourke has been a super star. hoping to pull the upset
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against ted cruz. in the last two weeks of the race, it's looked like a race. not?t real or >> reporter: it's real. the math still favors ted cruz. he's led in every public poll of this state and texans haven't elected democrat since 1994. there's been real momentum around the o' rourke campaign. he's been drawing these big diverse crowds all over the stat he's built a get out to vote operation from scratch. a lot ofe peo compares this to the obama campaign. it reminds me more of the trump campaign in his supporters are poll truthers. the numbers do not capture the enthusiasm on the ground. >> what a great comparison because you're right in the nooshl smartie pants people weg th we knew what we were
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talking about in 2016. let's waithe for vote. thank you. thanks to all of our correspondents on the ground. joining me is the democrat in maryland. he's the man in charge of getting democrats elected to the senate. welcome back to eet the press." >> it's great to be with you. >> you're the d triple c chair in the 2010 midtermshen democrats lost more than 60 seats. it wasst the f midterm ofam president compare to two atmospheres. >> i was triple c chair in 2008 which was another good year nor democrats. on the one hand you have kind of a wave, a blue wave. how big, we don't know. in the senate races we have a
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lot of senators who are running in states that donald trumpwon. for them they have been very clear from theth beginning. r number within jone job is to d up for the people of their states. if that means working with donald trump on somethi helps their states, they will. if it means poopposing him and they will do that. it's a very different sort of political battlefield in senoue races than races. >> define a good night. is a good night losing one senate seat? >> i don't want to define a food night. wh what we see now is a situation a whole lot better than anyone would have predicted 18 months ago. republicans were saying theyd woin seats. no one is talking about that now. we do have a narrow path to a
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senate democratic majority. it's a narrow path. it requires holding a lot of these vy tough seats and picking up one of the four or five republican seats where we're competing. as you know, everything comes down to turn out. we've got more than 7 senate races that are down to the wire in margin of error. >> i'm going to pick out four senate seats, two held by democrats. two held byll republicansn red territory. you have to win one to have a good night and two to talk about the majority. it's missouri, tennessee, texas and north dakota. missouri and north dakota and tennessee and texas on offense. is it fair to s you can't go 0 for 4? >> you can't go 0 for 4 in all those states.
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that's not going topp . let me first of all say no one should cnt heidi heitkamp out. she was down six points years ago. claire mccaskills always sticking up for missouri and known as a fighter for her state. in those two pick u seats, we have incredibly strong candidates who have also said their job, number one, is to stand up for their states workingith donald trump if i helps but fighting him if that's necessary to protect people in their state. >> tennessee and texas strike me as fascinati in this respect. they are both red states. you have one democratic nominee who has beenle comfort using the i word, impeachment and he's within striking distance. you have one democrat who has been saying no, no, if you worry about party i'm not going to win. he'st running as a state.st republican in a they are both in the same
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position. what does that tell you aut where t democratic messaging works best? it better to be base progressive like beto? >> it tells you that the q tlity candidate is really important and their ability to communicate on issues people in their states care about. we have candidates in both texas and tennessee who are doing exactly that. as you say, different approaches as you know in texas. hillary clinton got 45% of the vote. in tennessee she didn't get close to 45% of the vote. look, what you see in beto is somebody who is working to really expand an raelec that can be expanded in texas. in tennesse the electorate can't be expanded that mump. you are seeing larger turn outs than typicalmi erm elections.
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his job is to stand up for the state of tennessee. he's talked about areas where he canorwith the president but he's also talked about areas where he'll fight the president like the issue that is top of mind for most voters around the country which is protecting people with preexisting health conditions. >> a few democrats is sort of been trying to reject the par label a bit saying she's not a proud democrat. they a made promises they won't be just sort of blank checks for the democratic leadership. phil bredisen said he won't vote >> those members running i'm sure will fulfill their commitments. that dupoesn't mean we don't ha a strongeadership team in the
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united states senate. this was an examp of what i was talking about earlier. they won't senators whose number one job is to stick up for their states. sometimes that meah working w party leadership. sometimes that means working in the opposite direction. that's very republican candidates who are simply rubber stamp trump supporters. what we see fromvoters, even republicans, is they want a senator who is going to hold the president accountable and also work with the president if it's good for their e.st >> if a blue wave comes ashore, there's one place where there appears to be a rip tide and oathat's the of the jersey shore. let me read what the new york ge star l said. choke it down and vote for men e ndez. it's a toss up now. they choke down their reluctance
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and vote for ezmene he's no gem but he's better than hugan. the democrats make a mistake when they didn't encourage a primary charger so at a minimum he could litigate this problem. >> no. bob menedez has been a fighter for the people of new jersey. they do not want a trump rubber stamp. hugan would be a trump rubber state in the yiunited states senate. the reason he's competitive is he spent tons of his own money. money he by -- >> it's not because of his legal >> there's no doubt that he has an issue. it's also the fact that bob has spent 30 millionwn of his money. money he gained as the ceo of a pharmaal company that
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really over charged people for cancerdrugs. i don't think the people in new jersey want somebody who made his way that way. i'm confident that b menendez will win. >> i'm going to leave this there. de tri c chair a decade ag '08 and '10. nobody knows this country's election probably at this point tter thanou other man my pals. >> thanks. joining me nows republican governor of tennessee. he's the person of charge in getting repubcans elected t state houses across the country. welcome to "meet the press." >> good morning. thanks. >> let me start with similar estion i started with. what would you consider a good night for republican governors? is it limiting the number of losses? i know you're defending a lot of seats like the senate democrat. how would you define a good
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night for the gop? >> on the governor's map it's is reverse of what it is in the senate. there's 36 governors races. 26 of which the republicans hol the seat. it's easy to say this is a little bit more of an uphill tttle for us than it has been historically witt many seats. we feel good about the position we're in but we're not blind to have the fact that a president's first midterm w whenhave this many seats, we knew we had our work cut out for us. we haveord hard. we raised a record number of money this cycle and makinge' certain putting the money to good use in the campaign. >> it's interesting if you look at t greatakes region in general sort of that part of the midwe midwest, it seems that's going to -- it's possible you'll have democr governors in pretty much all of the states that touchak a great if things don't go your way and i'm thinking wisnsin but michigan you're behind and all of these.
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what do you need to do in the midwest to makeik it feel it's a better night than we think you'll >>ve? ight years ago we had a pretty great night in terms of taking over lot of those governors in michigan and wisconsin andoi ill as well. wisconsin, scott walker, we know what great ampaigner heis. he's one of the best retail politicians i've seen and he has good results to sho in wisconsin. that's a very, very tight race. i have a lot of fai in the e that the people of wisconsin will ctre-ecott. michigan is a bit more of an uphill battle for us. he's close a lot stronger than people thought. while that's a difficult part of the country for us we are by no means throwing in towet' >> an interesting conundrum here. you have a couple of republicans that will cruise tore-election.
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at the same time you're strug struggle in some of the reddest states in america, oklahoma and kansas. what are hogan and baker doing right?
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>> i want to ask you about two stories in particular. they feature secretaries of state who are republican nominees. there's some democrats who don't think the votes will be count fairly. talking about kans and chris kobak. should they have resigned their seats? should they have recused themselves from the vote count? >> i don't think so. i don't know the spervcifics of how the process works. while he oversees the process, there's a lot of people involved in that. if our secretary of state was running i wouldn't ask him to step down because there's so many checks and balances in the process that i just don't have any fear about the integrity. i don't know how in kansas and georgia they woron but i have any concern about that. >> president trump is a huge issue in the florida governor's prace. in somces some candidates run away from them. i can think larry hogan and
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charlie baker. some have been running with them. is it saf to say that president trump complicates things in some places and helps in other places? if you lose florida, is it on the president? >> i don't think it's any race is entirely on the president, win or lose. i think in governor's race it comes down to is the senator said just prior to this, even more so in governor's rices it's about the quality of the candidate. i think in florida the choice is in florida i think the numbers are right, i think they added about two and a half million jobs in the last eight years under rick scott. it's even more criminal ntical plan, y no longer deduct. florida is on the boom. if i was florida, i would not
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want to turn that caround. pete with florida all the time. i have a unique rspective. we're competing with them all the time for new jobs. to me ifrohey turnd where they were going, the direction they been in now, it would be a big mistake. >> let me ask you about your home state, you said the democratic 'snominee. making the argument, i'm another pragmatic. i'm going to do what's best for tennessee. you said that's always been a good argument in tennessee. is it a good enoughrgument for him to pull the upset? >> i don't thinkso. that has been the governor's argument. he can point back to a good term as governor. to a couple things. marsha blackburn hasoo run a race. i think they are pel positioned. tennessee is statehere the kavanaugh hearings did change things. people realize it doesn't
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welcome back. we have more room in our election headquarters here in new york. so that meanswe have more panel, more cow bell. it's now an election night -- it can't be an election night without nbc news senior correspondent tom brokaw so you're right's here. "today" show co-anchor savannah guthrie, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, kasie hunt, cory belcher and hugh hewitt. i want to show you some of the word clouds that ca out of our new poll because we asked a simple message to voters. what messagyou want to send with your vote if you could send that messafo. here's whas who prefer a
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republican-controlled congress told us. you see immigration pops up big. do your job, work together. and now take a look at the message that those that prefer a democratic congres get rid of trump, stand up against trump. but do your job shows up there too. and work together shows up there. e need a work together, do your job party. >> there you go. >> that's what i tke away. this is so happy. this is a bipartisan result here. it's interesting. i mean i was listening toha governoram talking about t's not going to be trump's fault ifr example, they lose in florida. but the problem is, is that trump in contrast to many presidents you and i have covered has actually literally almost put him on the ballot. tevote for marsha is a vote for me inessee and so forth. so he's -- you have to say he's a gambling man.ll he'sn on it. he's saying, first of all, he's working his tail off. he's had 11he stops inast three days and he has said it's
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about me. and most npresidents, ehen it is a referendum on them and we all know it will never accept that. trump is all in saying, yes, it is about me, so that' what tuesday is going to be in my opinion. >> fdr is the last president to dothis, tom. >> it has not just the optics but the tone of a presidential election, and that's where e are inerican politics because it's now 24/7 jam packed. i must saye that in last week or so what has been very unsettling to me is toee american soldiers unspooling re on the border with weapons nearby. this is how we're dealing with what is not yet a threat of any kind. if you had imagination in the white house, you'd go to ahe u. you'd go to the very many private agencies in this y, coun international rescue community, catholic charities, and work out a deal to get them anopped on the mex border. say to mexico if you want aid
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from us, you'reng to have to get involved in this. instead it's pointing a gun. i don't'sjust think tha what this country is about, but that's also what's elevated thi to a presidential election. >> can i just say this, though, chuck. i spent the last week, four states, four days, taing to voters, and republican and democratic candidates. and while tom is right, this ection to certain extent has national tones and i certainly irlk to republicans who say immigration is top concern, i actually came away with a much different picture. i wen to an event with the house speaker and scott walker who's in the ce of their life and uhliyou listen to them and d barely know that president trump was in the white house.y he was bar mentioned by name. they want to talk about jobs and the economy. every republican can tdate i talk i spoke with david young in iowa, he said the same thing when you pushed him one thquestions. they do not -- the republicans in tough races, they do not want to be on the terrain ise presidenon. now, they acknowledge they need excitement from their base, the president is trying that, but in many ways i think he's been a bigger problem than help for a t lot ofese guys. >> i'll go back to the point mr.
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brokaw was making, he's being practical. but look at that word cloud. for those who want republicans in control, immigration is the big thing in the word cloud. i think the presid is driving this because they think -- they think midterm elections are aboutubase nout. they always have and democrats havedone a poor job of turning out their base. so looking at the "wall street journal's" number, the vote is higher right now than it was for george bush in '06 or barack 2014. in so the president's job disapproval right now really means something. >> hugh, i had a republican pollster said ific scott doesn't win, it's not rick scott's fault, it's donald trump's fault. >> when i listened to chris van ehollen, ad less than an enthusiastic guy. when i got the poll this morning, i went to the one number, are you very satisfied or somewhat unsatisfied.pl
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74%, p think their own personal economics are good. that is a remarkable thing for a national thing. >> but then you put that de-by-side with the wrong track number. we're not in a economic recession, we're in a political recession. >> but you're in arizona and you've got to pick martha mcsally, who did the star-spangled banner last night at the asu game, do you vote t keep the economy humming or vote against president trump? >> i've go s toow you what donald trump talking about the economy, though. it was something else. take a listen to what he said about why he doesn't talk about the economy, hugh>> e's got the greatest economy. why is he talking about the border. well, you can only say so many times that we just created 250,000 jobs last month, right? they all say speak about the utt sometimes it's not as exciting to talk ahe economy, right? >> but the fact of the matter is, hugh is right.
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at the end othe day people ve the best job creation economy we've had since the 1960s. in the industrial midwest where trump did so well in the last election, it's booming out thise. the econom humming. you cannot, you cannot overestimate the importance of the economy when people walk into that booth. >> really quickly, but here's the fundamental problem with that. these college educated women in the suburbs who are leading the charge ofnc resis going on, it's not about the economy for them. what's hppening in washington, the disrespect, it is not -- it's disconnected from the economy for so man of these suburban women. >> this is where health care plays in. health care plays into this because it's as much an economic issue as it is arsonal issue in this election. premiums are so high people are worried about bankruptcy and it's contradicting the other numbers. >> the question is if it on your mind, how are you going to vote? when we come back, democrat stacey abrams, who's in that (vo) this is not a video game.
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welcome back. now to one of the tightest governor's races in the country and one that we've all beeng followom a national perspective. that's in georgia, which has been flooded with surrogates. oprah th rsday, vice president pence who reminded he was kind of a big deal too was also there that day. president obama on friday and president trump who is holding a rally in macon, georgia, there this afternoon. joining me nowmois the decratic nominee for governor, stacey abrams. if she wins, she would be the nation's first female african-american governor. ms. abrams, welcome back t"m
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t the press." >> thank you for having me. >> let me be honest, did you think the sunday before the election you'd b in coin flip race? >> we were preparing for every eventuality and i'm excited to be in a dead heat because i know that we are going to turn out voters who have never voted before. >> it els asf the final debate about this election has to counteen about how the votes and who gets to vote. aasn hee 't so me of the issues. how concerned are you that this is going to be a fair vote? i know the last time we were on, you expressed optimism that this was going to a fair election, that you would trust the results. do you still feel that >>way? i do. we have seen unprecedented turnout in this race fr people who normally do not engage and do not vot some of that has been driven by the conversations of the voter suppression. one of the best ways to encourage people to useis somethin to tell them someone is trying to take it away. luckily we have hadwo court decisions against brian kemp.
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one that requires absentee ballots be counted even if the signatures aren't exactly the same and a second one that forces him to u stopng the exact match system to disqualify voters who are qualified. nt ishat is more impor that we have talked about issues. we've talked about jobs and health care and ndeducation, that's also engaging people and turning them out in waves that we have not seen in georgia in decades. >> the president is going to be in macon, georgia, today. said you just simply weren't qualified to be governor. he didn't say how did you take that assessment? >> i find hiso assessments vapid and shallow. i am the most qualified candidate.us i am aess owner, i'm a tax attorney who was trained at yalh law l, i am a civil leader who helped register 200,000 georgians. i'm a very accomplished litical leader who worke across the aisle to improve access to education, to transportation, and i blocked the single largest tax increase in georgia history. there is no mo qualified standing for this office in georgia and i look forward having the voters of georgia say
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the same. >> you know, it's intesting, when oprah winfrey came to caaign for you, she said something that may have urprised some of your supporters that were in the audience that day. take a listen. >> independent.ered because i don't wan any party and i don't want any kind of partisan influence telling me what decisions i get to make for usself. >> obv you want to win over independents, so on one hand, of course having somebody as famous as oprah winfrey saying i'm an independent, come on, independents, come with me and vote with stacey t abrams. you think that sends a negative message to democrats as you're trying to fire democrats up to get them to support your campaign? >> i believe oprah's presence fires people up because she has been fiercely ienependent her re life. i think what she's saying is this is an election about the
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issues. listen to the conversations happening between the candwhates. look ae showing up, who's talking about issues, who has comprehensive plans for your life and make a decision not based on party but on record and on intention. i'm the onlyandidate who shows up every time who has detailed comprehensive plan g forrgia and most importantly who keeps her promises and honors her commwhments. i thin she is signaling to independents and everyone else is that this is the time to a choice based on who's best for virginia, and she believes -- who's best for georgia and she believes i am it and soo i. >> you've called your opponent a liard and u some harsh language. oaybe democrats make a few gains there, butre going to be dealing with a republican legislature. you have to work across the aisle if you're goiac to mplish anything. how do you repair this divide? let'se honest, it feels worse than ever.
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how are you going to try to do this? >> number one, i've run this campaign going to every single part of the state. i have not ignored a single community or county because i believe that my job is to speak to every single voter. number two, if you look at the issues i talk about, ducation, high-class education for everyone, access to health care nd every community making sure that we have good-paying jobs. this cuts across partisanship. most importantly,i can stand o my record. i was the leader of democrats in abl majority rean legislature and able to work across the aisle and get good dore. we can dison principles, but we have a common responsibility to georgians. i've always sa people don't care about your party, they care about their lives. as the nextrn go, my goal is going to be to bring everyone t togethsolve the problems that we can solve together, leading with my values, faith, family and service, butth recognizin everyone comes to the table as a georgian and we have to work together. >>s there an idea that your opponent, brian kemp, put forward that if you would youly
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would actu also put forward? >> absolutely. we completely agree on the need toin case teacher pay. we agree on the need for public safety. just have a different idea on how we get there and whose responsibility it is. he has some good slogans but no comprehensive plans for what he wants to accomplish.t we have ly slogans but detailed plans on where we're going to go and how we're going to pay forit. you don't have to raise taxes to raise expectations and outcomes. if you're running for re-election four years from now, at's the one accomplishment you have to have in order for yo to feely deserve re-election. >> the expansion of medicare, creating thousands of jobsnd making certain that we repair our broken mental healthsystem so every person in georgia who faces trouble, faces challesges, of eel the stigma mental health and has access to tance abuse treatment and mental health treatment. if we can hat that dones the baseline for a lot of work.
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>> this legislature has rejecte it before. what makes you think your election will make them not reject medicaid? >> 17 states led by republican done so,5 led by democrats. the states that expanded medicaid have seen their cos go down, outcomes improve and bottom line.their i think that legislators on both side of the aisle, especially republicans who represent these rural hofitals on the brink closure are going to be willing to do what it takes to save the lives of their constituents. >> stacey abrams, i've got to leave it there, the democratic nominee for governor of georgia. campaigning through december so i guess rest u and stay safe on the trail. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. > we have invited republican brian kemp to appear as we did the last time that we had stacey abrams on,nd once again he declined. when we come back, how to watch election night. the clu'm going to be lookg for to see which way the
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>> welcome back. data download time. we've got races obviously in ever atime zoneoss the country, including all the late alaska time zones this tuesday night, so it's possible we may not know who controls the house, the senate, gubernatorial races, untilur the wee of the morning. maybe days later. in one case months later. but we actually could know how the night is going pretty early on with k a few races on the east coast. here is what i'm looking for. in the battle for the hahouse, 25 republican-held seats where polls will close before 8:00 p.m. so you'll have a pretty good idea as you can see where the house is headed. but let's look for specific clues. in the battle for senate,
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indiana senate, the earliest poll closinge state of indiana. that senate race neck in neck. we'll have aoo pretty idea of which direction the senate is going on the republican side with indiana here. that said, it's really close, we could be waiting very, very late for gary, indiana. let's go to some key bellwethers in the house. lexington, kentucky. kentucky's sixth district. whenler democrats cont congress, they control this seat, that's why we're watching that one early on. then let's go to the state of virginia. they have four congressional districts,f different types republican-held districts which will tell us whether we'll see a not. or the easiest district to win is virginia's 10. thewingiest seat is virginia beach, the 2nd district. the next one is david brat, virginia 7, richmond suburbs. here's your wave watch seat in charlottesville district and then some, goes almost all the way to roanoke.
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. back now with end game. i want to put up a simple charts guys, whic presidential approval and number of seats lost in a midterm. first let me show you, we have donald trump's rating, 46%. we don't know how many sts his party will lose. check out barack obama in his first midterm. his approvalrating 47%. 63 seats were lost. bill clinton 48%, 54 seats. hugh hewitt,4 . i have some republicans going, well, hey, you know, that's le surviv but if you look historically, and i think one of the things we failed tdo in '16 was remember
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history was working against clinton, third term is very difficult here. history says this could be a drubbi s. >> i thoug months ago it was going to be. but there was a signal event that makes this different, brett kavanaugh. governor haslam brought it up to you. i think on wednesday everyone will blk g about brett kavanaugh and the lingering impact, deep decisiveacross the united states in places like montana, in places like florida, as haslam said, in tennessee, i think kavanaugh is going to be the term on wednesday that's going to be infhe word cloud pundits. >> you know, cornell, if we're missing this election in '16 the miss was missing a trump surge at the end. if we're missing something today that in two days we'll see, what are we missing? >> in'16 we missed the protest vote of young people. i think whate're missing, i hate to say this because i'm a pollster, our polling numbers are not going to be accurate because we don't know what the heck the electorate -- >> because turnout will be so big? >> i just got 8 text from the
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mayor in atlanta and she's like thrn have never seen t like this. stacey is expanding this electorate. decrats came200,000 votes short the last time in the governor's race there. she saw that and she started working to expand the electorate. we have younger voters turning out at a higher i pace. n't trust any of the horse race numbers and i'm a pollster. >> neither do i, kasie. shh, don't tell our pollsters and i love our pollsters. i have to say i'm a little nervous too cause of this turnout. >> chuck, the one thing i don't think we should lose sight of, and to a certain extent it feels obvious because we've talked about it over and over again, but women and the way that they have responded to this president. the number of people -- i bumped into somebody on the street in kansas city. we call it man on the street interviews. she was lking out of panera bread with her breakfast. >> a woman on e vestreet. >> a woman on the street. and she had hosted a political- fuser for the democratic woman running in kansas city. she had never done anything likn
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that befor her life. she talked about how just absolutely angry and upset her neighbors are. we're seeing it in the candidates in the house races and i just think do not underestimate that. >> you know, ynt guys i ou to tackle this question. one of the most important swing voting groups in1 were people that didn't like either candidate and they broke forld dorump two and sometimes 3-1 depending on the st right now we have found if you don't like either party, you're voting nearly 3-1 democratic, savannt'. >> i thinka geography is destiny thing. what hugh just twhked about and kasie just talked about. hugh is telling the story in the senate w kre theanaugh hearing was a senate saver for the republicans. we'll probably all conclude th. and in the suburban house districts, it's the fired-up females who have had it. ey don't like how the president is acting and it doesn't matter how strong the economy may be, they want to send a protest vote. i think what's most fascinating. states are lratle laries, like we used to say in law school. this is an experiment on tuesday
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thnight. which is going to work for democrats? is it to be a morate, somebody who's so moderate they seem like a republican like joe donnelly inindiana or is it the beto o'rourke and stacey abramsmo l, the progressive change the electorate bring out people and i think we'll get an answer to that on tuesday night. >> tom, put a little cold water on all ofny this. doesing change wednesday morning? even if it's a demoatic wave, democrats win the senate and the house, what changes in our >> well, what troubles me is we'll end upain with a pudding without a theme. we'll have imocrats probably the house on the upside. i think the senate will probably stay the same. and we're just going to have to muhrough for the next two years. the country is still going to be deeply, deeply divided. when you're talking about women, for example, i've been listening to women out there as ll. kavanaugh had a big impact on suburban women who likeds s. they didn't like what they saw,
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frankly, and drifted back acro. so we have real mishmash. we've not talked about parknd, we've not talkedbout las vegas, we've not talked about what happened in pittsburgh a week ag a a country that is slaughtering our own citizens on ar regu basis. maybe not in those big numbers, but too often. >> well, i te you gun control messages have apparently been working. we'll see if it happens on tuesday. rei'll be right back hn tuesday night with my colleagues lester holt and savannah guthrie. midterm coverage on nbc begins at 8:00, 7:00 central. don't miss it. that's all we've got for today. thanks for watching. we'll be back next week post midterms, because, if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."
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