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this sunday, a presidency in creis. thshutdown. much of the government closes its doors as president trump insists on a border wall. >> now it's up t the senat and it's really up to the democrats votes. we need their >> after getting pressured from his right wing. >> the wall, the wall, the wall has to be built. democrats say, no way. >>resident trump, you will not t your wall. >> the resignation. president trump announces a withdrawal from syria denounced by fellow republicans. >> this is akin to surrendering. >> and praised by vladimir putin. james mattis resigns in protest. ca>> if do anything to help him reconsider, i would do it.
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>> the stock market. >> the stocks csltinue their e today. >> the worst year for stocks so far sce the great thcession. e worst december since the great depression. with all this happening have we hit a turning point in the trump presidency? my guests this morning, republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania and dick durbin of illinois, the democratic whip. and off and running -- >> i'm exploring a candidacy for president of the united states. >> my interview with former san antonio mayor, housing secretary and now presidential hopeful julian castro. joining me are amy walterok of e pitical report, joshua johnson from npr, hugh hewitt from the salem radio network and yamiche alcindor, white house coronado for t correspondent for the pbs news hour. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press."
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>>rom the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday inmorning. week when much of washington talked about a shutdown which came at midnight on friday, the word many mentio adund this city was actually meltdown. there were a lot of other words and phrases that emerged as the week ended amo questions if the trump presidency has so lost its footing it may not recover. mr. trump likes to project an ndependence and strength. the president's growing dependency on the base for potical survival wa exposed when he appeared ready to give up funding for the border wall temporarily in order to keep the government running. mr. trump's bas revolted with right wg provocateur ann coulter writing gutless president in awall-less country. on the basis of his self-interest alone he must know if he doesn't build the wall he has zero chance of being re-elected and a 100% chance of being humiliated.
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president trump unfollowed coulter on twitter but followed her adv saying no wall, no deal. at the same time his def ase secretar point man on isis quit over the president's abrupt decision to with draw from syria based on a phone call with the turkish esident. this happened as stocks suffered their worst december since 1931. many noted despite mr.trump's self-inflicted wounds his presidency benefitted from not ving to face financial or international crisis. perhaps now we need to fe this uncomfortable question -- what if the president is the crisis? >> the shutdown hopefully will not last eplong. >> rter: president trump ended a week of chaos as cracks emerged in his fragile republican coalition. >> it's really the democrats' shutdown. >> reporter: days ago, the c presidentimed credit. >> i will take the mantle. i wi be the one to shut it down. >> reporter: some republicans are making it clear they hold him responsible for the third government shutdown this year after he rejected a deal
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negotiated earlier this week. >> i'll just remind the president the republicansre in charge. so the shutdown is on us w if can't figure this out. >> reporter: on friday, the president yielded to pressure from conservative supporters. >> t wall, the wall has to be built. >> i agree. >> iis a scandal that it hasn't been built. >> the presiotnt has gten word to me he'sng either get funding for the border or shutting the whole thing down. >>eporter: bob corker responded, do we succumb to talk radio show hosts? we have a couple of hosts that get the president spun up. reliable republican allies were shaken by the resignation of jim mattis who broke with then presidentis decision to pull u.s. troops out of syria writing pointedly, you have the right to have a secretary of defense whose views are better aligned with yours.
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>> i think he's sort of a democrat, if you want to know the truth. >> reporter: senate republicans ded uneasily. mitch mcconnell who rarely breaks with the president publicly called himselfar partic distressed that he's resigning due to sharps differenith the president. >> i'm very concerned about secretary ismattis' dn to leave. >> ambassadors of our allies have been reaching out to . nators to say what the hell is going >> reporter: the president also alienated republican o hawksn the syria decision which he abruptly announced on twitter on wednesday. >> we won. that's the waye want it. that's the way they want it. >> this is akin to surrendering. syria is total quagmire. 's possible to make it worse. >> reporter: russian president move. hailed the reliable trump ally fox news denounced it. >> he's giving russia a big win. vladimir putin praised him. he also is doing exact what he
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criticized proesident obama for doinde he said pre obama is the founder of isis. he just refounded isis. >> joining me now, pat toomey oe sylvania, a member of the budget & finance committee. welcome back to "meet t press," sir. >> good morning, chuck. thank you for having eme. >> lettart with the shutdown. the fact that you guys aren't even in town. you adjourned and senator mcconnell said, we'll see you in five days that tells me you guys don't have urgency on this. is this a message saying the president is the onl one her in town. that means the shutdown is on him to figure it ou >> no. chuck, really this ends u getting resolved in a negotiation between chuck schumer who apparently is a great deal of weight to nancye si's preferences, and the president. between that group they are going too decide how go forward. i have to say this is much ado about very little. unfortunately it's a big distraction from the resumption
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that occurred this year of a inetty much oy funding exercise. s you know, chuck, we resum the ordinary appropriations process and as a result we have a very small sliver of the government that's unresolved and is i this shutdown mode. it's a very, very small amount. paid.one is going to get i think it probably gets resolved quickly and it is completely taking away focus from where i should ben a very strong economy and really good economic news gene >> well, but i've got to ask you -- i would tend to agree with what you said except the president decid not to go down this path. the president decided to upend things. you have had three shutdowns this year. it's full republican control of gornment. >> well, yeah. >> there's part of me that hears what you s and you see what the president is doing and it's different realities. >> we have a impulsive president. we know that. you know we can't pass any
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spending bill the senate without democrat support. it takes 60 votes to get a spending bill across in the sena p. >> does tsident know? >> he knows it very well, yeah. >> where are you on lifting the tilibuster? would you move down to 50 votes or would that be a mistake? >> i'm not there as an across the board matter. there are procedural votes that shouldn't be at 60. it's ridiculous that a minority of 41 senators can prevent us from even beginning the process of considering appropriation bills. but i'm not in favor of a universal move on the legislative filibuster. we don't have the votes to do it. >> let me move on to the resignation of secretary mattis. >> right. >> i want to pull up one part of it to get your reaction. he writes this, one core belief i have always held is our linked as a nation is to the strength of the unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. cause you have the right to have a secretary of defense
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whose views are aligned with yours on this and other subjects i believe it is right to step down from my position. what's alarming about what secretary mattis outlined there is that's an across the board american foreign policy sort of tenet that democratic and republican presidents have lived truman.e harry he's basically saying this president doesn't share the same world view as every single american president going back to world war ii. does that disturb you? >> ye it does. i think you're right. i think general mattis has put his finger on where the president has views that are very, very disnct fro the vast majority of republicans and probably democrats electednd unelected. i think the president does not share -- i would say my view -- that the pax americana of the post war america has been good for the people i grrepresent, t for all of us. it's taken a commitment of
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leadership, the abity and willingness to project force at times. but mostly, as general mattis points out, it is cultivating an alliance. america is rich in many ways. financially, militarily. we have the luxury ofwo oceans. but the greatest asset we have is thatost people around the world want to be allied with us. that gives usab enormous ity -- it's a force multiplier. it is a great ability to achieve our goals. i don't think the president shares the view nearly to the extent the rest of us do. i think senators need t reassert a bigger role for defining our foreign policy. >> does this extend bigger than that? you know, dan balls wrote this week that many republicans -- he said the question now more urgent as a result of what mattis said is whether tpublicans in positions of responsibility t continue as if these are normal times or whether they sp forward, assess things smartly and exert
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the kind of leadership they feel is in the best interests of the country. the question is this, senator. do you get more comfortable criticizing the president knowing he may unleash a twitter attack on you or others that uxpress disagreement with him on this. end up not doing it because you fear his base. >> that's not my practice, chuck. i work with this whpresident. i think he's right and i think we have done terrific things inomestic policy on taxes, regulation, judicial nominees, criminal justice reform just last weekls i have criticized the president when i disagree. i have disagreed with mh of his trade policy. i strongly disagree with the position to with draw prematurely, in my view, from syria. i think senators shouldou speak look, we were elected separately from the president. we don't report to the president. we should cooperate where we can and where we need to disagree we
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should be willing to do that. >> yesterday, the treasury secretary felt the need to put out a statement from the president saying that while he olsagreed with the federal reserveies and the federal reserve chairman that he's aware that he does not have the power to fire the federal reserve ai first of all, does it bother you that the president himself couldn't tweet out thatha statement for some reason the secretary/treasurer had to do it almost like they feared he wouldn't say it?lo >>, i don't spend a lot of time focusing on the president's that thed things president says. what i focus more on is what is he going todo. i don't think chairman powell i in any danger of being fired by the president. i think some of the president's comments have been unfortunate. chairman powell is not going to let politicsisnterfere with decision-making process. i think we owe him a debt of
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gratitude after a lengthy period of very dangerous w experimentatioh unconventional monetary policy from predecessors. he put on a path to normalcy. we can quibble about where we should be at the moment. >> would you have this much patience for president trump if you didn't share the sam party label? >> if we didn't sha the same party label we wouldn't have done tax reform. we wouldn't have been able to roll back regulations like we have. lowouldn't have the record unemployment rate we have. upward pressure on wages. we have a goo story in part because this president was willing to work with this congress and accomplhese things. so, you know, there are things i disagree with the president on. i'm going to work h with where i can also. >> i guess the question is -- you haven't runat out ofnce yet. is that a fair way of putting it? >> i'm still i the mode of working with the president where persuade himing to and move in a different direction where we have to.
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i think with respect tocy forei pon general and syria in particular, we really have to step up. >> ifhe president nominates somebody for secretary of defense that shares his world vi that's very different from secretary mattis, could you confirmomebody thatou didn't share a world view with as secretaryf defense? >> let me say historically i have been very willing t defer to presidential nominees. i think i supported three-quarters of all of president obama's nominees. certainly the big majority of president trump's. s is so important and the president's views are so divergent certainlyrom mine that i think i will be much -- this one' going to be tough. i'm going to be looking for a defense secretary that shares a more tonal view about america's role in the world. >> all right. secretary -- excuse me. senator toomey -- unless you would like to apply to be secretary with the president. >> no, no. happy where i am. >> i figured you might be. senator tofey, republican
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pennsylvania, i hope you and your family have a merry christmas. >> thank you. you, too. joining me now, the number two democrat in the senate. minority whip dick durbin of illinois. welcome backheo "meet press." >> good to be with you. >> let me start with the shutwn at this point. is there any scenarionk you t on december 27 that re-opens the government before january 3? >> we have offered the presidenv soy specific opportunities. in fact, we just voted on one several days ago, a unanimous voice vote to movgo the rnment forward to the first or second week of february which the president rejected after he heard the right wing criticism. >> so what dide you m of senator mcconnell recessing? i'm trying to figure out why you guys decided to leave. everybody decided to leave and basically left the president here. is everybody trying t send a message that, hey, this is his? or is m thisonnell saying, i'm out of this.
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these negotiation are between schumer and the president which is what senator toomey said. >> i can tell you t president just a few days ago said he was proud to author a shutdn of his own government that he was elected to be the commander in chief and chief executive. it reall is in the president's hands to decide. e says it's an issue of border security. i think we know better. it is an issue of his own political. insecuri when the right wingers start screaming at him, he backs off in front of us. we have reached a depth of dysfunction i have never seen in washington. >> are you open to a between $1.6 billion and $5 billion? >> what chuck schumer and nancy pelosihe told president is we are not going to build a wall, period. condly, if you wan to talk about border security there are many things we can do. understand ware in the depths of a drug epidemic. re see fentanyl coming across the bor from mexico into the united states and killing thousands of weople.
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currently are only screening one out of five cars and trucks coming across our urder. le dramatically increase the technology there in something called a z-portal. that's the investment democrats want to see for real border cu ty, not a medieval wall. >> sounds like you're saying you will go up p in thece tag. you are open to the price tag as long as it's not for the wall. >> absolutely. >> okay. >> if you ask the experts, even in the administratiy', t tell you technology and personnel, those are the things that are desperately needed and the president ought to be sitting down with us and making the border more secure by making investments. he'll have democrats on board. >> you would give him twice the money, if the money goes to what you described and not the wall, you would double it and we'd get out of this tomorrow? >> tre is an appetite among democrats to do something sensible at tll for example, to stop the flow of drugs into this country and to stop the flow of weapons and
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laundered drug money out of this cartels hat build the in mexico and central america. >> is daca for the wall the compromise that was alive for a few days back in the day, iat still -- if the president said i'll take that deal now, would you have the support in your party to accept it? >> well, i touched that hot stove in february. i can tell you this president's word when it comes to these young people who are in desperate situations because he eliminated daca. the president's word didn't stand up when we got dow to re bargaining. the day will come, and soon, when the court protection ofeo these younge and their families is going to end. we r will have to face tlity of either abandoning them or working together to find a solution. >> let me turn to secretary mattis. yot a series of tweets after the news of his signation broke. you called him the last i adu the room, i believe at one point. do you think secretary mattis should have stayed regardless of
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his views because he was supposedly the last guardrl or one of the few guardrails that some thought were in the administration? >> chuck, there was something very interesting about this. i was one of many senators who privately sat down with general mattis and said pleasestay, stay as long as you can. we desperately need your mature voice, your patriotism in the room when this president iski life or death decisions about national iocurity. it oly reached a breaking point. i thank him for his years of service in the marines and at the department of fense. it breaks my heart that he's going to step aside. we counted on him to behere and t stop this president from his worst impulse. >>cu'm ous. you are somebody who on policy, i'm guessing you aleased hat we are going to start seeing troops coe from afghanistan and syria. how do you square the president' announcements about those things?
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you have called for both in one way or the other. >> we, i can tell you it was 17 years ago when 23 of us -- 22 democrats, one republican -- voted against the invasion o iraq for so-called weapons of mass destruction which never existed. i voted with virtually every enheror to invade afghanistan at the time and go after the sources of the attack on 11. little did i know i was voting for the longest war in the history of the united states and that vote would be used as a rationalzation for us to move to syria, africa and places iever could have envisioned. i think the constitution makes it clear the arican people should have been making these decisions along the way. we do this b congres and its declaration of war. we need to reassert our authority and responsibility when it comes to that in syria, in afghanistan, in iraq and other places that have been rationalized by the vote 17 yes ago. >> i want to go back to the
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decision itself. it lookse l the president is getting -- he's said it himselfs his nationaurity adviser wants to stay longer than even hisefense secretarydid. but it was the p turkishsident who talked him into doing this withdrawal. how doeshe senate even hold the president to account over how this gdecision-mak went down? >> well, ultimately, we have learned through history tha i takes the power of the purse strings. congress has theuthority when comes to appropriations to assert itself on foreign policy. we t learned hard way after decades of debate over the war in vietnam.nd but first foremost, this congress -- house and senate -- have to reach the point where we unrstand our constitutional authority and responsibility. i haven't seen that in a long tihi. and with president, we need to do it more than ever. >> does the t ckish phonel make you think the president is compromisable? >> i do. whether he's talking to vladimir
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putin or erdogan, these autocrats have him enthrared. af conversation he'll make snap judgments and avoid the best advicem he could f people like general mattis. to me that's the height ofty irresponsibi there are thousands of kurds risking their lives to help us defeat isis now in jeopardy because of this impulsive decision byonald trump. >> do you question his fitness for office? >> i can tell you every day i question whether or not we cane endure anowo years. i think we can. i think this constitution is the american people are strong. i'm hoping my republican colleagues will step up and join us in a bipartisan effort to put this government back on tract. >> all ri you have brought up two years. two years from now, are youn going to be ballot in illinois in november of 2020? have you made a decision? >> tell people i'm rsing money an trying to lose some weight. that's the first indication that you're up forre-election. >> all right. senator durbin, democrat from illinois. i hope you enjoy the holidays
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and you and your family have a merry christmas. >> looking forward t seeing a lot of grandkids. >> thank you very much. when weba return, a loo at what may have been the most perilous week of the trump presid ♪ ignition sequence starts. 10... 9... guidance is internal. 6... 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... ♪ but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost.
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mcdonald's is committing 150 million dollars in tuition assistance, education, and career advising programs... prof: maria ramirez mom and dad: maria ramirez!!! to help more employees achieve their dreams. we shortened the headline. monday we learnefrom the senate russians target ld muelle tuesda a judge rejects the michael flynn plea wednes the president on twitte announces syria withdr thursdeefense setary resign saturd we officially have a govern shutdown. oh, the wek thatwas, amy
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walter >> and just a normal week here . >> i felt like i honest dwl thi is the week of the peak trump era. >> and to senator toomey's point is this the week when the senate finall says, okay. we've put up with a lot of things that we don't really like. but on foreign policy, this is where really going to push back. we're going to push back on whoe the secretary of defense nomine is. we're going to push back on syria. have the pur strings. we have power. we don't have to be held hostage to wha impulsivity of the president is. and it's our opportunity to show that. know.et, i don't that will be to me that will be the turning point, chuck. that's where we'll have hit a differ phase in relati between the presid and his party. >> there was a great blind quote from a trump supporting republ senator that talked about it so beach erosion. and all of the mattis
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resign and all of this stuff and erodes beach and erodes more beach and this is before the mueller tidal wave hits. and when mueller hits, how much beach is left? >> that is a very apt metaphor. the last few issues we've been discus kind of hit what reare -- and thedent said this. his kind of core respon you know,matis, syria and the border wall are all matters of nation security. you deal with what is happening with the stock market, that is person prosperity. thoseare twoig issues that presid came into oe fice sayings going to be very strongon. i feel like as we have gotten throug this week, the president is getting closer to the edges of his presidentia authority where you reach th you were rig the get done because you want them to get done and you've got people ming in th admini out. admini feel like the president finall gting to the poin where is saying, okay, i want all the people around me to get me what i want when i want it. there are certain things he's
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not going to be able to get the way he wants them. and at a certain point the struct on just being presid is going to butt up agai reality. now that it reached matters of snagsa nation and personal prospe is where i wonder president's core base is thinking. >> you said we're soared inform this. hugh hewt, ther is a great scam n bob woodward's book the works defense secretary. donald of emotion, phoned secretary of defense james mattis on the morning of tuesda april 4th, let's kill th p thesident said. legali go in and let's kill them! a lot of them.ti yes, m said. he wou right on it. he hung up the phone. we're not going to do any ofe thatold a senior aide. we're going to be much more measur this is in response to the first chemic attack by assad. e now. >> secretary mattis disagreed
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with t president a lot. he wanted to stay in iran deal. he disagreed on the paris accord he wanted to stay in. the pr took us out. he disagreed on a number of differ things including the syria are some senators who ar not unhappy g seeneral mattis go provided that the execut branch action acts like the nfl,est man if carson went goes down, you better have a nick foles. i heard the same thing that amy heard. not send us an tlier. nd u someone in the mainst of national security. this had is for president trump what the red line controversy was for president obama. expt when president obama erased the red line, there crisi here there is a crisis because somebo resigned over the policy >> red line or ten times than that? >> the thing that really struck me is when senator toomey said we donhi report to if you start hearing more senato say that and starte acting lthey're not report to president trump but really to his base and to his
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voters who they share, i think that's when we start seeing presid trump saying,ait a minute these people who are anothe part of body of elected offici going to push back on me. think the worst thing for the presid is that he is sitting in washington by minimuself. that his wife and his child had to be flown back from florida, turnederound to told you have to come here to be with him. it's this idea that it's because he's sitting in washington as everyo else is going home understanding that does own this huown. and he said he was going to be proud to shut down the govern and then he wasn't going to bla democrats. you ca go back and forth on whethe what he shut down the government for was what he said. is thish idea messag the thing that the presid really loves to do, he is losing on and the conser media is reminding him of that. >> cave now>> or later. right. this was -- the 2018 eln on a referendum exactly this. do you want to fight or do you want to fix stuff? decr on we're goin to come and try to fix stuff. this impulsiveness, this way of govern is not working.
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and democrats ended up winning almost ninevote by points picking up 40 seats. if this is the continued strate that the white house wants to take into 2020, their only hope is that democrats in 2019 overreach and do a lot of in fighting. and that's what hewants. he wan fichlt >> they to me,sh , decide whethe the president finishes his term or doesn't. pure and simple. or sure. well, if we -- >> and that's why this jim mattis resignation is so harmfu >>det a big l. the syria pullout is a big deal. ifde the democratdeto so for impeachment, that makes a big difference. had it not been for jim mattis and syria, this would be a differ conversation partic the shutdown. i don' think a lot of americans will will feel except forth may week because you have tsa agents and air traffic
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one person w has made his intent clear is julian castro he is a three term mayor of san antoni hud secretary under presid and pos ble runnin for hillary clinton in 2016. gthis y look to be at top of th. he joi me now from san antoni welcom the press." welcom back. >> g chuck. >> let me start with something that senator durbin said at the end of our intervw today. i asked him if he thought the presid was fit for office and he said he thought that the countr could make it throug anothe two years. what is your view on that? >> well, can tell you one thing. he's not behaving like he's fi for office. he's behaving extremely errati he's not giving the american people our allies around the world any sense that there's a ration for the
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that he's making. and the events of this last week were just another example of that, whether it's sudden announ of withdrawal in syria turmoil with his staff. he's just so erratic. so what i think yo around the country f have begun reasse him. and folks understand that we need different leadership and the sooner we get that the better >> i'm just curious. on policy, would you have troops in syria right now if you were presid >>k th that many folks recogn that it was time for us pull out of syria. howeve here's the thing. once you're there, you have to for your a operations there also for your withdrawal. so i'm not a big fan of the commit has made over t whether it was the iraq war or this
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commit howeve i do believe and i agree with folks that say that for our own sake and sake of our troops and for the sake of our allies you're there, you to ac planhow you're going to withdr and what we saw this week is no by a president. you know, somebo run fo president, its no the just about whether you're -- you think you'eady to be presid but you have to make a case of why you and not them? this year there is a lot of thems that you have to get to before you have an opportunity to face president trump. wh yound not the other 30-odd people running for president? what makes youwe the a for the democrats in 2020? >> welall, i have an announ january 12th. so if i decide to run, chuck, the reason i'm going dede to run are three things. numberone, i have a strong vision our country's future. second that i've shown both the local a lev the national level an ability t done especially to create
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port forpeople. and third, i've lived a life experif coming from a neighb a family where we wer struggling and i can identi with those folks that are struggling to reach theirms drnd i've actually reached my dreams. i can identify with all of those lks out there who feel like they'v had success and they've reache their american dream. and i when you're presid you have to work with congre and you have to work with folks and states and local govern and the private sector as well to make sure that everyb can proiser in countr >> you know, in an era before donaldtrump, your w resumeuld have been seen as not long enough yet to run for president. maybe not enough foreign policy experi that might have been something. obviou you already have more i think politicalan experience resident trump. but answer that. you're going to be running agains a lot of people with a lot more experience and some
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voters ma i say, you % voterssay, you know what, went inexperienced withwi i want somebod a longer resume >> i think you have to start right?than that, we need somebody right now that is president that has common sense and has some impulse coro it's a plot mo more basic with presid than that. i'd say that i've had the opport during elast few years to travel to nearly every state in the country. in my visited different foreig countries. i've taken the jobetf wr it was hud sector mayor of san antoni seriously. i tried make sure that i could work with folks that have differ mews f me. and what the american people want right now, i think, they want someby who, number one, they believe that they can trust, that has integrity. second is trying to unite americ and not to divide
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them. and then somebody thais they thingoing to actually take this office seriously and try and work folks to make sure that everybody can prosper in the unstates. d th thing is, right now each of those things is msing in this president. >> you know, there is some -- a bunch of texas democrats that wish you and your fellow texan that is thinkingbout running for prto o'rourke wouldn run for president. dear beto and julian,ne thing the 2018 election results made clear is that texans have a real ance make this a purpl state. good democratic candidates can win. there is work to be done here. and it's importantwork. run for president and the messag that you're not especi interested in that work. and just maybe texans shouldn't be that interested in in you." why not run statewide in texas? john cornian's nate seat. can yo run for governor. what do you make of that wish by some texas democrats that yourse and beto would stay in state? >> well, i'm there are going to be great candidates that will run n only against
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john cornian but in 2022 for govern and other statewide office and so, you know, that's not what i'med focon. what i'm focused on is that i have a strong vision for our countr future and on january 12 i'm going to make an announ my plans. >> is there room for both you and bet oechlrke in this state? >> i have no doubt that there are going to be a bunch of folks runnin time. he's a very talented, very impres guy. my brother and i t were pro suppor him when he ran against ted cruz. and i there are going to be 20 people up on that first debate stage. fair enough. secret julian castro, former mayor of san antonio and on januar 12th we'll find out for sure if you're and active c candid for president. i hope you and your family have a merry christmas. >> merry christmas. when we return, a look back at some of the people we l 2018.
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y339ey y16fy >> i'll tell what you it's going to be made of. it's going to be made of harden concrete. >> a big fat beautiful door. >> it's going to b rebar. >> a solar wall. >> you have to have see through. you ha to know what is on the other sif the wall. and steel. steel slats. >> steel slats, whatever want t all >> maybe it's a steel barrier or a wall as president trump tweete yesterday. hugh hewitt, what is your level ofatience on this stuff?
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you were a national security conser i know y're not happy about this. this sort of, the upheavel. i asked pat toomey at what i poin this were a democratic presid all over it. right? you'd krcriticizi the behavi f i'mstrated because so got d. two supreme court peal court justices, massive tax cut, massive tax reform and weav talked about t prison reform, farm bill on tuesda embassy. he has a long list of accomp built he does always seem to step on his story. and in foreign policy, the massivrebuild is good if you keep secretary pompeo and ambass john bold innocent room and listen to them. he has a great nional security team. team. he'llept a n he can't be donald trump. i'll take ant anybody wants to make, he could not beat donaldtrump. they'r not big enough. they have to go after a long list of achievements and a huge person >> but i go back to can the
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presid keep you know, how mor sort of mainstream conservatives have? >> i think mainstream conser and far right conser you can see patien waning thin this week. you ha rush limbaugh saying the presid caving.ur you had ingr saying bring on the shutdown. you ha republicans who usually sing donald trump's praises basica telling him, look, you need to be a little stronger o this and figure out your messag i think the thing that is really import heret is that presid trump said he wanted a wall and r promis that to people. a lot of republicans we can get border security money out or chuck schu if you give up this idea of a wall. he promised this so so many tople a simpleng he used as a messag rhetoric he can't let go. amy, he can't seem to -- th reason he doesn't have his is because republicans won't give i that's has denied h for two years and now we're at the . >> right. ands there is tinability to get a win. right? if you're the great negotiator who is goingto get the deal or
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to at least make what is not a greatal look better in a pr way, he's had plenty of opport d and on the question of mainst republicans left him, they did. in 20 he lost every suburban county, that used to be the most conser of conservative now it's mainstrea ser conser the to 2020 now goes throug the small town rural americ vote which he believes that the wall is a thing to get them motivated onth . but if there's no wall at the end of the day and nothing -- and he's nothe selling the parts of his message because he's so focused on i got t get this done, then what does he t voters that want to keep voting for him? >> there is a big picture remind this the end of the republ house. >> yea >> the in with near budget shutdown in the first 100 days, joshua.
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they leave afterhree shutdown this i year. they ousted a speaker in the middle in many ways, donald trum is d freedo caucus president. in a and this is what it's gotten us. >> failed to repeal and replace thect affordable care on day one. that changed a little bit. it's still in e.pl i am beginning to -- and i think the wall is a serious thing. one of the key rules in olevi show, dn't tell. right? it's nice that you got all the thingsone on paper nice you cahave all the things that you . but wall is a visual reminder. things will look at this big thing he did. on's a testament in the pe believ and voted for and going to shake up washington. i do not see how donald trum will let this go. becaus it is a signature achiev he can point to and did?what i i think for a president who we know was kind ofraised on broadc that's how he made it to this point, ion't see a, how he lets the wall go.
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or b, how aemocrat who can challe him can challenge him withou saying vote for me becaus i can beat the snot out of donald trum and we're going to march him down pennsylvania avenue i feel like the nextwo years, regard who have runs the house and senate is going to be very m about the optics of 2020. what are you going to see teat e end of 2020 that made you feel like you spent you or wasted your time? >> t number one promise that donald made was to deliver this wall. that's why we're not giving it. joshua talking about is they'r literally saying out loud, and i think democrats have to find msomebodybe who julian castro if he's going to . i think what democratic base is lookin for is someone that is going to be in your o face kind candid someon who is not going to be the aall ni all passive and i'm beat h >> you said something during t
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kavanau kavana they back off on him, it will be a disast republican party. if he backs off this wall, is n >> no, this is where people e misread publ it isoverstated, overvalued, ovhe shutdown if, e def it, chuck schumer is keepin the government shut over four t of outlays. he wi. whatev he gets in the end, and what dick durbin told you, the news out of the show is the democr will raise the money if they change ther ng. presid trump should take that and get the drugs stopped. and get the drugs stopped. go poi ott that new poi entry. >> he afraid of ming it ok like a cave because it' not about the wall. merry christmas to around table. happy and merry much that's all we have. merry christmas to all of you that celebrate it. we you have a safe and restfu hol as for us, we'll be back next week because we're not shutting down. if it's y, it's "meet the press.
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