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this sunday, national emergency. president trump makes that declaration to build a wall after congress refuses him the money. >> we're tinking about an gue of our country with drugs, with human traffickers and with all types of criminals and gangs. >> the move unites democrats. >> this declaration of an emergency is completely unnecessary. >> there's no rational reasons.o do t >> and splitss. republic some for. >> trump'say onlyg is that he's enforcing the law. >> and some against. >> the real ccern that i have is the presiden has done this himself. >> what will republicans who say they're oppose doddit when comes down to vote. >> i'll talk to republican senator rob johnson of
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wisconsin. >> amazon ditches its new york city plans after protests by progressives. >> everyday americans still have the power to organize and fight for their communities. >> but amazon's decision exposes a split among progressive democrats. >> i'll take on any progressive anywhere that thinks it's a good idea to lose jobs and revenue because that's out of touch what working people want. >> that could play a beg role in 2020. neyork mayor bill de blasio and the head of the democratic committetom perez. oining me for insight and analysis are. amy walter, national editor of the cook political reporter. national political reporter for politico and jonah goldberg, senior editor at national review. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the." pre >> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in
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television history. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. when president trump declared a national emergency on friday revealed another emergency for the president much closer to home, his own. it's a e politicrgency and one of his own making. mr. trump has united democrats against him and set up a court battle even he sugges he being lose. mr. trump seemeitto a that the emergency is more about protectioni protecting his base when he he didn't need it to declare his emergency. he just wanted to build his wall faster. you have a democratic party that outpolled republicans in six of threlast sevendential elections by winning back centrist voters. it now fds itself though, challenged by an emerging progressive wing that is eager to push the party sharply tndthe lefthe republican party once defined by free ade, rict constitutional principles and caring about the national
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debt has now tethered itsea to resident who mocked all of hose traditional conservative norms. mr. trump meanwhile has tethered himself to his base which he sees as critical to any re-election chces, but wha is emerging is a picture of a president who refuses to even lead his base and instead is admitting he is being lead by it. >> we will have a national emergency and we will then be sued. >> president trump after the biggest legislative defeat of his presidency announcing he will bypass dage to divert billions of dollars from projects and build his wall. >> they will sue us from the 9th circuit even though it shouldn't be there and then we will possibly get another badli r and another bad ruling and then we'll end up in the supreme court and hopefully we'll ge s fake and we'll win in the supreme court. >> with illegal borderen apsions down 76% from a high in 2,000 thoush000 the pre
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seemed to undercut his own argument. >> cld build the wall a long time, but i didn't want to do this. but i can use it much faster. >> he could, subvert the constitution of the u.s. hear his own benefit because he's o unable negotiate with congress. >> it's not te way the country is supposed to be run and you're supposed to go through congress and ma a deal. >> some republicans are calling the deal extra constitutional, a rabbit hole and a mistake. >>his is not what the national emergency act was intended to be used for. hat aboutso if body else thinks climate change is a national emergency. wh h will they do andow far will they go? >> iisnot clear how many republicans will vote on his emergency declaration. just two weeks ago. that ional emergenci have been issued in the past have not been contentious. i'm pretty sure that this one
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would be. >> but now -- >> i'm going to support the national emergency declaration. >> you are watching mitch mcconneleat a manure sandwi in this whole process. >> democrats have their own challenges as the centerof gravity shifts leftward and republicans dust off an old line of attack >> that's called socialism. socialism is on trial. >> on thursday amazon announced it was abandoning plans to build a new corporate campus in new york city after protests from progressives. >> i think it's incredible. i think it shows that everyday americans still have the power to organize and fight for their communitie they can have more say in this country than the richest t man he world. >> new york mayor bill de blasio is calling amazon's d ision disrespectful. >> i'll take on any democrat anywhere that thinks it's a good idea to lose jobs and revenue because i think that's out of
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touch with what working people want. earlier, i caught up with republican senator ron johnson chairman of the the homeland security committee. he's attending the annual gathering of world leaders at the munichre security co. >> let me start with the declaration of a national emergency. i'm aware there have been dozens of them since the law wasin pasd 1976, but by our research and reading and our understanding this is the first national emergency that has attempted to spend money that congress specifically said no to. how is that notia preside overreach? >> think your research is probably correct. i think many of us are concerned about this.hi i past congresses have give then administration way much power and this is an expansion of the power. this now, the betto wayave solved this problem would be for dem depps to support when they supported in the pa give
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this president funding for better barriers which we need. we nee to secure our border and we need to fix our horribly aoken legal and illegal immigration syst hopefully after this impasse now is over in terms of funding the government we can sit down on a bipartisan basis and start solving these problems and fix our systems. >> isn't this an issue then for the president, and i say because, senator, congress, this is the way it works, right? it's dividing government. you came to a compromise. they gave some money. the president himself admitted he could go back and ask for more which is the way how thigs work between the executive and the legislative, but he decided he didn't want to wait. is that an emergency? >> well, nagain, my questis how much can we actually spend in the remaining eight months of this fiscal year? my preference would have been,n let' shut down the government and let's do this through the legislative process and let's start fixing all these problems. i know my staff gave you a
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chart. >> yeah. >> of unaccompanied family and children in this country. this is not a manufactured crisis, chuck. 120,000 and families came in 2013 andam president called that a humanitarian crisis. last year 150,000 unaccompanied children and family, in this fiscal year and we're at 2014 levels just in the first four months of this year. so it'sle pr it has to be solved. t will have to be solved on a bipartisan basis. divided government is when you sometimes can do bighings and hopefully we can do big things and fix this? >> is the president's mo unconstitutional in your view? >> i don't think so. it's certainly an expansion of authority congress h past presidents. this president has the same authority. in se he wouldn't it
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this case. >> where does he have the authority on this? where double you believe he ha authority on this? >> from what i can see it comes from different places, the national emergency act, and putting up better barriers is part of the effort to combat that flow of roin, for example, that's poisoning our cities. so, no, listen, this is a real problem. it's way more than just a policy crisis. it is aan harian crisis. president obama called that a humanitari crisis in 2014. we're at that level just a third into the year. >> so you believe his o usethe national emergency act, i want to clarify this, is. constitution you believe it will be upheld in the courts? do you wt the courts to uphold this power? >> listen, iegret that past congresses have given the president, any president a lot -- the congress'
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constitutional it's done in many cases. we should have three co-equal branches. right now it'she most powerful and the courts. congress has reallyiminished and we should start taking back the congressional authority and return the, balanut that's the way it is and again, particularly when congress has given the president's authority and it's even stronger than what's written in the constitution. >> are you going to vote to disapprove of the ident's use of this -- of the national emergency act when it comes to the senate? the house is likely t vote a resolution of disapproval that will come to the senate? where would you voteon that? >> i'm going to take a lookse a the he president makes, and i'm also going to take a look at how quickly this moneyl e spent versus where he's going no use. if he'going to spend it very early in this fiscal year, and i'll take a look at iwhen i actually have to vote on it. do you share the concern that
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otherat consees have that if this is allowed to become precedent wheret a presid thwarted by a congress that he disagreed with can end congress this way and declare national emergency to take appropated money and spend it anywhere, climate change, gun, you name it. >> absolutely, i share those concerns which is why we'll take a careful look doing here in this instance, but again, i have to stress, thisen preshas been thwarted in his attempt toio keep this n safe and secure, to secure our borders. let's face it, if tis president can claim a mandate on anything he ran on it's on exactly thise is better barriers and securing our borders and democrats and congress have supported this in the past and they won't support it now -- >> it's an easy solution and just have them stop being hypocrites. >> understandou want to blame democrats. >> let me ask you this, republicans control the house anfo senatethe first two years of this presidency.
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your fellow home state republican paul ofan was speaker he house. is this not on congressional republicans and the president that were in this situation in the first place? >> you said we controlled both chambers. we didn't. we had a majority in the senate. you don't control it. we need democrats to support us and they've been unified i ying to thwart this president's number one issue in the campaign to secure the border. we never had cooperation from democrats which is regrettable. >> you're in munich. it's an important security nf ence, and i also know there was a big moment that honored john mccain for thco erence. i want to play something that the late senator mccain said to me the last timehe wasin munich two years ago. here it is. >> they are puzzled and they are concerned. stey realize that the lynchpin of the n alliance is the united states of america and they worry particularly when they see increased testings of
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this union that's being condted vladimir putin as we speak. >> my understanding is there are still concerns from european leaders that they're neous the united states isn't as solid with nato, isn't as solid with europe when to comes putin as it once was. this is an important, i know you share an important subcommittee this issue. are those concerns still being expressed by our european allies. >> let me first say john mccain is missed. his presence is missed, but there are a record number of house senators and members here over 50 and we're making that point that we value nato. we realize nato has been crucial keeping europe whole, free and at peace for over 70 years and it's crucial now in its support afghanistan and iraq for our foreign presence and really trying to thwart presint putin's aggression into eastern ukraine so, no, we are here
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supporting nato, and i think our european partners and nato allies are hearing that loud and clear. >> senator ron johnson, i appreciate you.kn the outdoor street there in munich, ippreciate you giving me a few minute was your time. >> have a good day. >> defining what it means to be a conservative these days, progressives, their scuttling of amazon's plans and the 25 to 40,000 ons and a larger tax base it would have brought with them. se wtor elizabethren among others cheered the news. she tweeted that amazonalked away all because some electedof cials in new york aren't sucking up to them enough and a majority of new yorkers and democrats supported the amazon deal. the episode exposed a growing rift between the democratic progressives and the traditional centrists and bill de blasio whw ld argue is --
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>> i'm a progressind proud to besi progr and are about jobs and working people. >> i read your op ed in "the new york times" and you seem to blame amazon for walking away, but let me ask this, you also argue that it was a fair deal. why did fellowgr psives not trust you that you had come up with a good, fair deal and you calledt on solid foundation. >> chuck, it's a democracy. i have no problem with my fellow progressives critiquing a deal or wanting more from amazon. i wanted more from amazon, too, but the bottom line is an abuse of corporate power and the majority of n yorkers believed in it. they wanted the jobs and the revenue that would help u to create more affordable housing and better mass transit and there waa consensus in new york city. there were some people that stood apart, that's fine, and amazon just took their ball and went home and what they did was
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confirm people's worst fears about corporate america. here is the 1%ictating to everyone else even though we gave them a fair deal, and i think it wileo frustratee all over this country to see a company treat a neighborhood and a city like that. >> well, if you're in amazon'sa shoe, the hat was offered to them they take it and now you want to change the is that -- if you're in their shoes, that's what it might have looked like to them, did it not? howok did it like oh, it looked like they want to change the deal, how long do you want to do that and at so point i have 20 other cities in america. >> no. you have to be a good corporate neighbor. >> think working people rightfully are demanding their fair share and they lookt situation where health and power are concentrated in the hands of the 1% and theydon't like what they see and they're demanding more back. we said to amazo this is a fair deal. jobs us 24,000 >> and they took it. >> ultimately when you give us the bargai you'll get some
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fbjectives, but we need to work together on beh of the community and they said they wanted a partnership and the minute there were criticisms they walked away. what does that y toworking people that a company would leave them high and dry simply because they raised criticism and they had a clear majority on their side.er theymore concerned about their corporate image. >> do you think they werefrd of new york politics and the pr? s they couldn't handle the heat in the kitchenat it looked like and they let a lot of working people down in the batain. >> i wo play you something from congresswoman ocasio-cortez because i'm cure use to see if there's some factual divide, if you will, on how this deal worked. take a listen. >> if we were willing to give amazon -- if we w willing to give away $3 billion for this al, we could invest those $3 billion in our district ourselves if w wanted to. we could hire out more teachers. we could next our subways and put a lot ofle peo work with that money if we wanted to.
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>> ifeems when you give out a tax incentive that somehow that's money you had over here and it was going over there. this is money that didn't exist this $3 billion. >> correct. >> do you feel as if this is a problem in trying to explain how this deal worked? >> his was aal that was going to bring $27 billion in revenue to the state and city for thingsli like p education, mass transit and affordable housing and that was g back in taxes and it was only after getting the jobs. >> it's not getting $3 billion. >> exactly. here is the bottom i think people were looking for fairness here. they were looking for a positive outcome for everyday people. hat meant jobs and that meant revenue toimprove their lives. we saw amazon make that deal and turn away. in the terms of the progressive movement. i'm a proud prressive. we have a city that's working and we're the safest big city in
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america. progressives can govern and also give back to working people. that's whyav wepaid sick leave and that's why we announced a plan for two weeks paid vacation foreveryone that works in new york city because working people deserve more. we can do that in the context of a throning y. that's where progressives need to go. >> what would you have doney differenout this deal if you could now? now that you know they've walked away? would you not have endorsed it in hindsight? >> i think you can't do hindsight because it's so paicular. the powerful people and the ultimate members of the 1% got together in a boardroom? seattle and made an arbitrary decision and i am a proud progressive and what progressives need to do is show working people that we need mort form, that we will stop this horrible reality of concentration of power in the hands of the 1%. we had a chance to do something very positr our city and working people and by the way, not minimum wagech jobs w we all believe in $15 minimum wage.
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these will bein higher p jobs, that folks who went to our public schools could getand it would have been transcendent. it needs to about equality and opportunity for working people. >> who are you woing for here? it sounded like you were trying to explain to the progressive movementow economics works? >> it does seem as if that's the disconnect. >> i am representing 8.6 million people and those people believe we need moreess in our economy and think, we need jobs, growth, revenue. progressives can do both. we're doing it in new york city every day ad it can be done and this is where we will resonate with the american peop if we make clear we are on their side and we'll produce for them. >> progressives sometimes argue too much over how to divide the pie and not how to expandit. do you think that is still the case now with the progressive movement? >> i think the challenge is to show we can do both and in new york city we are doing both.
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we have 4.5 million jobs, we are raising wages, raising benefits and giving people universal healthcare. we're proving that progressives can achievegsthose th >> amazon is not one of these companies that has been thought of as a total,you know, they just race through laws and they raised minimum wage and they raised voluntarily to $15. if you chased away an amazon, are you worried it will chase away -- >> no, no, let's be clear. no one chased away. we had an agreement and if i had an agreement with you and i the weues that came up and you wouldn't call me in the dead of night and say we're taking our marbles and going home. wh you have so much wealth and power in the hands of very few it does not work for working people. i say there is plenty of money in this world and plenty of money in this country, but in the wrong hands. amazon is making the argument for me. >> are you run for example president? >> i have not ruled it out, and
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this is an urgent moment and there is an inequality in this country that isng threateo tear us apart. i feel an urgency. people do not feel they'rein ge rewarded for their labor so when i say something like we'll mandate new york city two weeks and paid time off for every working unrson. our y doesn't do it and we're the only industrialized country on earth that does not grant paid time off for working people. what does that say to working people? despite the fact that the working people produce it. that's what i want to talk about. >> does the amazon decision make it harder for you to run for president?on >> i think the amazon decision affects the debate that if we don't address the income inequality the security and stability is threatened and i'll talk about this all over the nation. >> mr. mayor, i'm running out of time. goodo e you. >> president trump's national emergency declaration, why he may feel like a winner. what if he
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welcome back. the panel is here. eddie jr., amy walters, the national editor of the cook political report. and jonah goldberg, senior editor at national review. welcome to you all. happy sunday. let me start with president trump's national emergency declarion and let me giv you a financial breakdown. according to the white house, here's the money fromhere the proposed wall would come from. he gets $1.37 from the homeland security appropriations bill and om the national emergency. 2.5 billion from the drug interdiction program, and the last two bucket, not tech nick
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technically not part of the national emergency act. jonah godberg, i'll start with you. from the small government conservative view, this seems to be anything but, but i fou ron johnson twisting himself into a pretzel, he is passionately concerned about something he not want to be committal on. i don't like these enabling acts which is what these national emergency laws are. i didn't like it woben barack a acted on it unilaterally, but this is a next level thing. there's never been a national emergency inv to deliberately do an enron around congress. congress has spoken here and if you listen to the pro-trump caucus, what congress passed is outrageous becau it's going to make illegal immigration worse
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in some ways, but he signed it. >> right. >> and then he said i'm going to do all of this other stop that is monarchial and it's against the spirit of the country and i don't care if the congress approved this, it is still terrible because it is simply a violasyon of how the em is supposed to work? if he's hoping for court approval he may hav harmed himself at thega rosen press conference and it is with this sound bite in particular. i could do th wall over a longer period of time, ididn't need to do this and i want to do it much faster. i've already done a lot o wall for the election, 2020 and the only reason we're up here talking about this is because of the election. >> with the leadof the aclu press reless. >> absolutely. heou oby doesn't understand the meaning of the word emergency because he didn't have to do it, right? an emergency needs urgency to it, and this takes me to a basic point that all of this is
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predicated on a lie, and what i'm interested in is how the machinery of government is being moved to act on a lie. everything that he's saying, senator johnson became complic in it. this is a manufactured crisis. if there is a crisis at the border and it has something to do in the way that the trump administration has in some ways enforced immigration law, the way the trump administration has separated families, the way the trump administration has lost babies, right? sohehe fact that -- that we're moving and responding to what is at root aie is unconscionable to me. the second real quick point is thathis is absolute break of constitutional rules. we've been talking about thens tutional crisis on the horizon with the trump administration. it's here. it's just small, but is here. politically. >> ileana and amy, it seems as if the president decided it's better to lose in the courts and rail against and have a foil than work with congress.
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>> that's absolutely true. i know, i think that in the courts what this is going comei down that they defer to the president on what the definition of an emergency is, we all know what it is colloquially speaking and he decided to do this i early o his administration to do it with the wall. we have had dozens of national emergencies declared, but they all have to doith two things, either international crises, jimmy carter declared one ten days into the iran hostage crisis or natural disasters. this one is neither. the president has the power to do this we're not going to interfere with what an emergency s or isn't or they can get involved in this which they really haven't done at this point. braking up ofp president tr and congress can override this or the courts will get themselves involved in this. >> it is alsolhe cent
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reality of the trump administration and trump focus which is it's all about this base, right? the wall,te unilly is unpopular. the emergency declaration is more unpopular than the wall. the moving funds around from doing projects that people like will be very unpopular that's not a concern of the president. th has been at no point a concern about growing his base. it's about keeping that base that he already has happy, ands e worries much more about subtraction thanade does about tion and to win in 2020. he said this isn't about 2020. it is absolutely about 2020 because this isn't an iss that's going to get any other voters who aren't currently in o his coalition vote for him. >> the logic thing. i have to put this up for you. and jonah you'll appreciate it more. mick mulvaney, his quote from friday talking about the emergency. it cates zero precedent. this is a precedent given to the
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president. it's not as if he didn't get what he wanted and he's waving a magicand and taking the money. i thought that was exactly what this is. >> precisely. one of the things i find frustrating and if you look at the people that are the most junt jubi doing this, it is political for the president rather than dealing with this emergency somewhere. right? there's no one saying finally we'll deal with this emergency, and they're saying trump got another one over on them and that is the real, real problem. >> that defines the new right, eddie. it's just sort of, like, you're unhappy. eddie's unhappy, therefore, congratulations this is victory for america because you're unhappy. >> we are inld bizarro w for d.c. comic fans. everything has been turnde updown. this is the imperial presidency gone amok. we have been debated it since
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nixon and we debated it all of the way bacin fromln and how we executed after thear >> so this is the imperial presidency gone amok and we have a presidency with no regard with no constitutional norms that is some ways occupying a executive branch. >> for the record lincoln was the only one whhad a good excuse. >> okay. we will leave it there. up next, the democratic party is becoming ineasingly party is becoming ineasingly progressive, but how can a party (vo) only vexperience awards... by rooetrics...#1 in 3 opene #1 in video streaming according to nielsen...1 ...and network quality according to j.d. power. we're proud to be the only network to win in all four major awards not because of what it says about us, but what it means for every one of our customers. choose america's most reliable network, and get apple music, on us, when you do.
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because it has. nine major candidates have either fileder prk or announced bids outright, far more democrat orepublican than in any other year ever. the first will be on the nbc t networks, msnbc, and telemundo in english and in span ph. toez is the dnc chairman and he's with menow. welcome back. >> always great to be with you, chuck. >> you're obviously organizing the debates and explain what you view your role is. are you aee ref what is your role for the 2020 presidential primary? what doyo see it as? >> our role is to make sure that every candidate who runs gets a fair shake. i welcome a large field because i've h the privilege working with almost all of them candidates great and so our job at the dnc is to make sure we give them that opportunity and theil debate
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do this to show who they are and that we also build an infrastructure that enables whoever wins to hit the ground wrunning. that we've spent so much time focusing on rebuilding data infrastructure and this debate process, i'm excited abo because again, we're not going to be talking about hand size. we're going to be talking about health care. the debate will be focused on issues. >> i am curious, when you are trying to figure out wheno step in -- reince priebus when he was chair of the rnc, donald trump, if he insulted jot mccain he ut a release. where is the role that you have to play inic pg the candidates' statements. at what point do you feel you have to step in in the name of the democratic party to say x? >> i'm frankly not concerned alout this for the following reason. of our candidates understand that we have to defeattr donald p. it's not about them.
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it's about something bigger than it's making sure we come them. together as a nation. if we have 15andidates in the race, 14 aren't going to make it to the mountaintop and r job at the dnc is to make sure that all of the candidates and their followers feel like they have a fair ske and i am confident that every singlerscandidate unnds that we have to focus on the task at hand and building a positive vision ofio incland talking about how we'll tackle health care and talking about how we'll build a good middle class wage and that's why we have a lot of confidence tt we will talk with the primary process with the wind at our back. >> this weekend is essentially still holding o on announcing it and then said he was speaking to a european audience, we start our election process too early. he wishes this process hadn't started thiearly.
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>> it started in the past. we looked back 30, 40 years and there were debates that started ine february of year before the election. we are kind of in the mid evaluate pack and what weom learned he last cycle is people have a real thirst for learning what our candidates are thinking about, what their vision for america is, and so i think d have fo a sweet spot, and the fact that these debates in june will be on consecutive nights and that we will beth drawing names through random selection. i think what the american people are going to see and i think we're going to have a robust audience and probably the d largest ever what they're going to see are candidates who are thcused onr issues and that's what it's about. >> i want to put out somene headand recent headlines that get in this new divide in the democratic party and usa today will increasingly progressive democratic rty become more antisemitic with omar's comments. the new yorker with the green new deal, democrats pressent a
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radical problem for climate change. are you concerned the perception of the democratic party is going to move too far to the left order to scare away those swing voters that you've won over to win contl of the house? >> listen, i think we must never confuse unit andmi una. we have unity on the fact that health care is a right for all and not a privilege for a view. thanks to democrats, we have 90% coverage. we have a conversation to get from 90% to 100%. they're talking on the republican side how to eliminate coverage for pre-existing conditions. we believe climate change is hoax.nd not a we're having a discussion on how we build this clean energy economy. the other side denies that climate changereexists. so w having a discussion about the mean, but our values, the values that i believe command the respect of the vast majority of the amerindn people. >>ou've expressed your values. you've expressed your values
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someone to say hey to the governor of virginia that these folks have to go. what happens if they don't respect the values that congresswoman omar seemed to accept criticism and apologized. what happens when theat demo sort of don't accept punishment, don't acce the fa that they're not representative of the democratic values you espouse and they d't leavend they still want to represent the democratic party, what do you do? >> i heartened that congresswoman omar apologized because what she said was wrong and it was divisive. >> are you worried that she is -- >> no. what she said was wrong and what she said was divisive andsi speaker pend others including us, i think appropriately called her and what we have to do. the difference between democrali and repns is when we see people within our own ranks do things or say things that are antithetical to our values we are not reluctant to call them
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out. on the other side, unfortunately, they are en lers. look at senator johnson with this national emergency calisthenics that he just did. he understands it is know constitutional, but god forbid he say something against donald trum >> i'll goack to the amazon deal, are you worried that there's a perception, progressive democrats are not pro-business. they'll be antithetical that it scares business away? >> you will hear from so many democrats in this campaign that have an unbelievable record of -- barack obama left with the -- what we're fighting for is prosperity that is shared. a capitalism that understands th when we all succeed we all succeed. when the middle class is succeeding, when people striving to get into the middle class
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sueed, then everybody succeeds. >> you pay democratic socialists for moral capitalism or -- >> don't forget, when ronald reagan was raili against medicaid -- medicare in 1963 he said medicare, this say quote,e will to socialized medicine and will lead to sociali in america. this socialism thing, medi has led to security for our seniors and so so people want to try to use labels and misuse rabels. here's what dem are about. we're about results andkie are about sure you have a right to health care if you work a full-time b you ought to be able to feed your family and reduce gun violence.e we hpeople across the country who will be marching tomorrowse bechey'll be talking about this fake emergency and making us focus on the real emergency and people who are diabetic who don't have access to health care.
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and we are back. "data download" time. throughout his presidency president trump has relied on one key ally to get him through a tougher time, a strong economic. what wou the economic landscape look like come november 2020, there are some cluds on t cloudshon the horizon? worried should we all be? it is unemployment rate has been hovering between 4.1 and 3.7% since of the last year and that's the lowest it's been since december of 2000, by the way, thats ar full
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employment and just as important, people are feeling good about the economy as well. 69%f americans think this time next year they're going to be better off financially. that is the highest rate of optimism that we've seen since 2002. and that's the number the resident himself tweeted out this wee low unemployment. people feeling good. those things matter to voters on election day, but what about the gray clouds ine ment this week the fed announced that 7 million americans are at least 90 days la on their car payment? how important is that number? at's a record amount of people. skipping car payments is not something consumers typically do casually. this could also mean trouble ahead for the automobile industry ifrs consure less able to afford new cars. so the amount of revolving debt, usually credit card debt held by americans is also at a new record over $1 trillion. it's been over 1 trillion since september of 2017. before that, the last time the number was t roughlys high,
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january 2009 with people relying heavily on credit cards during the great recession. finally, this week, the census released data showing retail sales declining 1.2% from november to december, the largest drop in more than nine years during the holiday season, no less. does all of this mean the economy is headed south? that's a big leap. some analysts are skeptical and there are a lot of good e onomic ne there, but after 116 straight months of growth there are warning signs emerging that could play a role in the 2020 election. wh we come back, endgame. are we about to see a couple of big-name democts finally enter is race? "endgame," u "endgame," u brought to you by ♪
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nnect, protect, explore and inspire. back now with "endgame." basically, as i said at theofop the show it seems both sides havetheir own divide. in the republican divide we've seen for two straightaz years. has exposed the democratic divide under the front pages. the newspaperf long island "news day" on the decision. reflexive, anticorporate, anti-business has real ramifications. the democratic party and the leaders of new york will have to address that issue before they tip soar to the left that our economy topple over. income inequality must be addressed, but rejecting capitalism is t the awer. eddie? how do you slice this line between this risingog ssive movement and basically the center left of the democratic party? >> well, i think part of what's happening is the traditional spectrum of our politics has changed. and oftentimes the categories, progressive, conservative,
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centrist might not actually map on to what's happening on the ground. it's much more complicated and much more fluid. i think the idea of expanding the pie and dividing the pie that you used in -- in earlier segment, most of the time, most progressives, quote,u uote are thinking the expang of thpie is the t 1% taking all of the expansion. so we have to adess fundamentally that the economy is not working for everyday ordinary folks in the way that it should and so markets don't determine when we value. m therkets reflect what we value and so it's not about rejecting capitalism as such. it's about building a society that reflects the value of everyday, ordinar people of our society and i think that argument has to be had, right? so quickly, the age of reagan is collapsing. what will take its place? that's theio que that we're grappling with now. >> that does seem toe the fight. that's a fair way of putting it. >> the divide on the right preceded trump.
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it began with e tea party in 2010 with the obama era and the democrats have been getting their own tea party. is that going to happen to the democrats and inw we're s an all-out battle between leftist and left-wing centrist and centrist democrats andal sots. >> we have to come up with a different lane and everyone is out.g to figure it there's more diversity on the left. >> and this amazon battle certainly put it into release. what i found interesting is alexandria ocasio-cortez won her fight by saying the incumbent in the district joe crowley was neglecting his constituents and she called this a victory for ordinary people when ordinary constituents in her district supported e amazon headquarters by extraordinary margins. 56%f voters and 60% of those in queens where this would have beenlocated andmeanwhile, the new york times piece which she
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has yet to set up a district office. if other socialists ferll on foot steps and place more emphasis on building a national profile rather than constituent services and how that will play in the rongn. >> right. her ability to move thesi disc from presidential candidates has been re, maable. the christian science monitor had a breakfast with with senator brown, and the most contentious answer was the green new deal. >> after being asked this question 73 times, 73fe dnt ways, i don't need to respond to every bill that somebody drops on the floor, right? >> there will be a lot. >> that's exactly, it's exact like that which is, i'm a senator? i'm running for president of the united states and i have to react to something that a frrehman member of co is talking about, but you're seeing that already. we're having this di mussion
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aboudicare for all, green new deal and not based on necessarily what the grassroots are saying, but it's atally about he elites are saying and that's what's fascinating about that poll in new york city. e only group that didn't like it wered liberals ey were evenly divided and moderates supported it. >> those are the people that african-americans and hispanics are e majority of the district -- >> and i think that's in terms of the questions that were asked. >> it'slso not just reflective of political reali >> it's not reflective of aoc, alexandria ocasio-cortez doesn't do her homewo. she thinks we now have this $3 billion to spend on something else which is just wrong. it's just fake math. and what i find fascinating about this is i don't like thesn
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capitalist race to the bottom, sweetheart deals for stadiums or any of this stuff, but they're a fact of political life and do we have tim ryan on your cable show the other day and he was, like, look, i think these are the problems here, but i would love for them to com to ohio and if you think that the green new deal wouldn't look like the amazon deal onteroids with the government leaning in and giving away subsidies to steer the company you're kidding yourself. >> thank you. this is a debate that is obviously going to continue. that is all we have for today. thank you for watching. we'll be backxt week, i promise, because if it's sunday it's "meet the press."
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