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this sunday, divided democrats. bernie vers iiding. highlighted by this comment from fresoman congres ilhan omar. >> we'll talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance t a foreign country. >> some fellow democrats hear bigot bigotry. >> the use of anti-semitic languages cannot be tolerated. >> i hear her trying to uplift my grandmother in palestine. >> the debate with implications for 2020. my guests this morning, democratic senatorrrod brown of ohio.
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and liz cheney, chair of the house republican conference. >> plus waiting for biden. sherrod brown not running. michael bloomberg not running. both o likely because they expect bide ton get >> i have not made the final decision, but don't be surprised. >> what is biden waiting for? and did he ask for a pardon? >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon. >> a stone cold lie. >> we'll talk about that and more with the chair of the house intelligence committee, adam schiff. joining me for inside analysis is kasie hunt, robert costa, maria teresa kumar and pat mcrory. welcome t sunday. it's "meet the press".bc >> from news in washington,
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the longest running show in television history. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. never mind that president trump's campaign chairman is going to prison. th argueed this week over which one of them is lying about a possible pardon. dana at "the washington post" pointed out with president gles on recent str north korea, on the trade deficit and the border wall, that cannly one thing save him, the democrats. and as he said right on cue, here they come. democrats spent much of the last month wrestling themselves to the ground. they were embarrass t over revelation that ralph north had once dressed in black face. started by allegations of sexual assault against fair fax, and ow to handle ilhan omar, h second comment many saw as anti-semitic. newohts of democrats are
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coming into contrt with the liberals. they're united about the urgency of beating president trump, but they're divided with each side seeing the other as why trump may win in the next election after all. ilhan omar drew criticism after tweetin that u.s politicians support israel because it's all about the benjamins, baby. she apologized but then made this comment last week. >> i want to talk about the political influences in t country that says it is okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country. >>av jews dual loyalty and can't be patriotic members in which the country they live? words matter. >> some progressives defended pointing to anti-muslim slurs against her like this flayier in west virginia. >> we think hate in racism in
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our country is growing. >> late this week house democrats unite around a broad resolution con dedemning a hater some progressives objected an initial draft. the episode asng those dividing 2020 democrats. >> i think it was right in this case to demonstrate the house of representatives wasn't going to tolerate statements like the ones made. >> but several top presidential candidates said omar w unfairly targeted. the debate is exposing ideological, generational and racial divides in the democratic party. as the progressive left is showing its strength. >> it is time to break up america's tech giants. >> some 2020 democrats are capitalism. embrace >> again, the labels, i'm not sure any of them fit. >> championing the green new deal. >> does the green new deal go too far? >> no. you cannot go too far on theis
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e of climate change. >> and calling for medicare for all. >> do you think eliminating private insurance would be a socialisea? >> no. okay, so my -- i strongly believe tha we need to have medicare for all. >> can a more centrist candidate breakthrough in a party that's ft?fting to the >> why should we elect a candidate who says that's not possible to do everything progressives want? >> because i'm being honest.>> this week both former new york city mayor michael bloomberg and sherrod brown said nohanks to a presidential run with joe biden poised to jump into the race. >> i have not made the final decision, but d't be surprised. >> even befe his run as official, biden is already explaining a decade's lg record including his role in passing the now controversial 1994 crime bill, his vote for qthe i war, skepticism of anita hill.
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>> i've been in this fight for a long time. i haven't always been ght. i know we haven't always gotten hings right, but i've always tried. >> joining me now from cleveland is sherrod brown of ohio who announced this week to the o surpri many that he had decided not to run for president in 2020. senator brown, welcome back to "meet the press". senator -- >> good to back. >> the last time you were on my executive producer noted he was ng about his presidential campaign in the present tense it was so -- it seemed so eminent to it. you surprised a lot of people. you hadun even b to hire some people. what changed your mind? >> well as you know, chuck, this all started off because i don't think democrats were talking working class americans of all races enough. if you lov your country you might for the people who make it work. we began our dignity of work tour in four states. yes, we hired people to help us with that tour, and to be ready.
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and our goal was to inform the narrative in e democratic rty so that democrats began to talk more to workers and talked about the digni of work a number of candidates have already done that, have been talking about the dignity of work. i predict that the democratic oominee is the one that talks workers the best. i'm not just talking about workers in the industrial midwest. i'malking about the physical therapist in nevada, the construction worker in new hampshire, and the hospital worker in baltimore, and i would predict, if i could do this, that come january 20th, 2021, that in the inaugural when either the democratic president-elect raises his or her right hand, they'll launch into a speech, their inaugural speech. we'll talk about the dignity of work. it's who i am. it's what we fight for. most importantly, it's how we govern. >> to reinforce, we put together
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a collection of folks who stole your line. take a listen. >> we have to reward and recognize the dignity of work. right? >> thety is dig in all work and career professionals. >> we've got to give it the dignity of the work that is being performed. >> so senator, you message, in some ways you're doing something that many presidential candidates wish could have happened to them. your inial message resonates to the point where you have competitors stealing your lines. let me ask you this. how do you not run? it wasnesonating w you still said no. >> well, it was resonating, and i'd saypl mission acched but i'm not done yet. i can do that better now from the senate. i an, we spent three months talking about the dignity of work. i'll continueo do that. i went to the floor right after i announced i wasn't going to runkend t about civil rights and voting rights and worker rights and a supreme court thatmbuts its t on the scales of justice in favoring corporations over workers and
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health insurance company over sick people, and walltreet over consumers. i will continue that economic populist fight alwaysgh the eyes of workers. it's what we are as a party. i think i could drive that better from the senate than i can as one out of 15, 20 presidential candidates, but in that sense -- >> i'm curious, when was the ast time you talked to joe biden? >> october. >> so you haven't talked to him recently? this wasn't him calling around letting people know he's running? >> it was none of that. i know that's been reported but the people that never called me, connie, sara, my chief of staff. never called jenny, my communications director. i ike joebiden, i just haven't talked to him. people ask me in almost every one of the ates, is joe biden getting in having any impact on your decision?we my a was always zero. >> when people were assessing your candidacy, you were seen as a folk that could bridge this divide. you're a guy that figured out ho to win in a red state but
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also had kept progress s. iveprincip here's what you told the nation in an interview very recently just before you decided not to run. you said if iun i'l be the only democrat on the stage who will have voted against the iraq war and voted again the defensive marriage act which mes and more marriag equality and pro choice 100% over the years. it seemed to be it was your way of saying i'm an experienced , democrut i'm also on the progressive side of the lane in ways that other democrats, perhaps you're referring to joe biden, were not. >> i was referring to nobody in particular. i wasgust sayhat i've been a strong progressive for years. i will carry that back to the senate. i will be part of this presidential campaign in terms of calling out this president for his phony populism. populism is never racist and antesemitic. populists don't give tax cuts to the richest people in coe try and then try to cut medicare and head start.
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i'll point out how this president has betrayed the auto workers in lordstown and hospital workersn other places. ly continue to make that case from the floor of the senate from travels a tund country the debate forward about dignity of work. >> do you think there's a danger of going too far to the left that it might scare voters sa in ohio? >> i hear these stories that that's the story of the day ing to the rats m left. i think the more important story is how republicans continue t move to the right. how president trump stalls -- betrays workers and utters racist anti-semitic rhetoric and nobody in their party calls them out. they don't h edivisions. they've all followed his racist actions and betrayal oforkers. they followed it off the cliff. that's the story, not of degrees bof differencween and among democrats. that's the real story. game?t is fair
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you in that interview said in 1996 when -- essentially, when it wasn't a popular thing to do, you voted against the defensive marriage act, for instance. joe biden has comments aut bussing and desegregation of schools that are popping up some nuotes from him inside 70s. you could make argument that was the mainstream democratic party positn perhaps in the 70s. should those comments matter to voters in iowa to democrats in iowa in the twenty-first centuroe >> well, it't really matter what chuck todd or shnkrod brown t about what it matters to voters in iowa. >> does it matter to you? >> records matter to me. e candidate that is talking to -- i mean, i go back to whoo what are the going to do about talking about workers and the dignity of work. i want to seeignity work not just part of the campaign, not just a slogan, not just what these candidates talk about. want to make sure they govern
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based on the work. it's about wages, benefits, workplace safety, child. ca in the culinaryworker's union in las vegas, connie and i wer there three or four weeks ago, their slogan is one job s.uld be enou i want to hear workers start talking about that, that one ving wage job should be enough with health care, with retirement, with child care, with safety in the workplace. that's everything to me in this race, and that is a winning message, and it's the way we should govern starting in 2021. >> i'm going to close with the same question i asked at the i didn't hear an answer for why you didn't run. it it simply you didn't want to do >> i think we were successful in moving forward a we have. i was talking to some people about this, and you can run three different ways. you can run as eore where you get up every day, i have to do this.
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i didn't want to do th. you can b the angry candidate. i didn't want to be that. or you can run as the sort of optimist joyful cai idate. the way to do my job in the senate. i think i can too do that better in tou senate. >>e saying you can't run for president joyfully? that's what i just heard. sorry. >> i think i can do it better in the senate. >> fair enough. we'll leave it at that. l> senator brown. >> it's always joyeing an your show. >> that i appreciate. it's sunday morning cup of coff and you've sprung forward. >> even when the time changes and youake me get up an hour earlier and then you broadcast it later and peoplewon't know early we got up. thank you. >> you and your ohio colleague john kasich, you guys know how to talk to your ohio voters. thank you, sir. much appreciated. joining me now is liz chenef wyoming. congresswoman, welcome back to meet the >> thank you. >> i want to start with what
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happened in the house this it was a bit of a surprise. you were voted against this broad resolution, and while your criticism of the resolution, i understand, but you were in the minority in your party. did your fellow house republicans make a mistake by votingitthe democrats i reth a waysd we coave gone. some people looked at it and thid there's nothing objectionable i resolution. my statement made clear that was my view as well. i decided to vote ainst it because i think it was clearly an effort to actually protect ilhan omar, to cover up her anti-semitism by refusing to name her. the democrats have yet toy take ction to remove her from her committee. and th have a problem. e extent to which they're abiding by anti-semitism, enabling it in their party.om it'shing we watch them struggle with, butt's something that's dangerous for the country. i'm hopeful they'll do the right thing. >> the republin sources were
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quite peeved at cheney to say the least. when you're part of a leadership team, youtick together, period. criticism being member o leadership, that you should have spoken with one voice. >> i think you know how the hill works. those anonymous sources who are out there sniping. i think the important thing for us to focus on and remember, the democrats have been in charge now for about two and a half months in the house. in that time they've become the party of anti-semitism,rthe of socialism. they've passed legislation that's violated the first amendment,he second amendment. it's really time for the emocrats -- the leadership in that party to stoit, stand up, and act worthy, frankly, of the n people haveri placed in them. it's crucial for the nation. >> i want to unpack couple things you said. you said you thinkgr cswoman omar should lose her assignments. you ledhe charge to have steve king stripped of his assignment.
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if the voters send these folks, the voters in western iowa know steve king for better or worse, and the voters in minnesota knew her comments were very much well -- well-publicized. if they're sending them there, shouldon congres leaders with b not allowing them on committees? >> voters send them thse. nobody saying we're going to expel them. we expect the decision the voters made. but there arehiertains that shouldn't be part of our public discourse. anti-semitism, the history in terms of what hatches when you don't stand up to evil. how quickly words turn into something more horrible when it comes to anti-semitism. we must stand up to it. the ain't of anti-semitism supported by ilhan omar's colleagues is a kind of anti-semitism that has the ability to creep in andecome normalized. and we have an obligation not to let that happen.
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>> that's anti-semitism that has crept in. ok at george sor oez. the attacks on him over the he years, was a poll one tweet that implied that he was essentially trying to buy this or buythat. that's gotten mainstreamed in ways fore years to point where he said some guy was trying to pipe bomb him. this what aboutism? where everybody is trying to point to the other side. chuck, chuck -- >> and it's getting old. >> the what aboutismhould not go on, and everyone including leader mccarthy has stood up firmly to condemn anti-semitism. th thing people need to focus on is the democrats and the house of representatives and the democrats themselves a completely frustrated with the fact that the leadership is -- they are protecting he this isn't just being silent. they are protecting her by failing to p a resolution on the floor that names her and that strips her of her committ assignment. instead they put a resolution on the floor which she went out and
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said this is a tremendous victory. if we are not going to be in a sition where you say the kind of language that she has said again and again and again is isolutely unacceptable and has no place our discourse, then those people who won't condemn it are enabling it. >> there was concern by singling her out you only make her a target andhey pointed to the west virginia republican party flyer. my ps we are getting -- >> you can describe it that way. >> this is a dangerous way. >> you can describe it that way, but you're wrong. whit you ation in this country and around the world rise we've seen a globa in antisemitic attacks. we've had the kinds of attacks you hade in synagogue in the united states recently. that's a moment -- >> a motive on the right. g th was motivated by right wing fringe ideology. >> anti-semitic. it's wrong. when you're in a situation where you' an elected official, where we have the history we have, what happens when you don't stand up and say this is evil and call it what it is, we
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all have an obligation that. i think it's shameful that nanty pelosi and the democratic leaders will not put her name on the floor and remove hrom the house of foreign affairs committee. >> do you feel comfortablees ent trump has done enough to tamp down the right wing frin fringe? >> i think we should come together, the president, the vice president, members of the senate and the house, stand up and say in today's world, when anti-semitism is on the rise, when we hav t the historyt we have, when we know what happens when people remain silent, everi le one of us must at all times stand against it. >> there's a couple foreign policy headlines. this was with the presi friday about north korea. >> i have a feeling that our relationshiph north korea, kim jong-un and myself, chairman kim, i think it' a very goo one. good.nk it remains
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i would be surprised in a negative way if he did anything that was not per our understanding. >> this is what we've learned just this week he's accelkeating the r program again. he's enriched more uranium between the sumts and more importantly, they were reconstituting the while the summit was taking place. >> yeah. >> the president there -- you can't take him at his word on this, can you? >> we hav watched kim jong-un and his father and grandfather operate the same way now for decades, and i would say that republican and democratic administrations gotaken by him. i hope this president won't. i think that their efforts are clear. >> hasn't he already gotten more out of this president by getting respect on the world stage? >> i think the fact the president a walkey from the summit in vietnam is the right thing. we don't want a bad deal. it makes us less safe. the president is going to roll out a budget. there's going to be something that's alarming to allies.th president is going to advocate perhaps wherever we
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have tops overseas, japan, south korea, germany, he's going to ask for cos plus 50. essentially tax countries overb and where we have bases. what does that do for the diplomacy o this country? >> i think it would be devastating. we benefi we have been able to benefit both from the perspective of freedom, prosperity, security, safety, beca our bases and cooperation with our allies. the notion that we are now going to charge them cost plus 50 is wrong a led devastating to the security of our nation. >> do you think the republican party will support this? >> i won't. >> but the party might? >> well, i think it's going to be important for us to make sure that people understand the daoer that will to our relationships and our fundamental security. our security, we've protected it because of our alliances ande becae've been able to work with countries and we should not look at this as though somehow we need to charge them rent or for the privilege of having our forc there because that does
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panel is here. pat mccrory, the foreman governor of north carolina. kasie hunt. asd robert costa, the moderator of ngton week" on pbs. kasie, let's unpack the hill before we get to presidential race. the hill debate is going to animate the presidential race. let me play nancy pelosi on omar from friday. >> the incident that happened
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was, i don't think our colleague is i think she has a different experience in the use ofrd doesn't understand that some of them are fraught with meaning th she didn't realize. but nonetheless, that we had address. >> i will say this, speaker pelosi has given me my favorite excuse, she has a different experience with choice of words. that is one of my new phrases. this is not easy. >> it's not easy, chuck. one thing if you speak with members of the democratic party, who are frustrated how their party handled this. there are jewish and non-jewish that are upset that this is as broad as it was. she said israel was hypnotizing the world before she was in office. she had the benjamins tweet that you showed the audience at the top of the show. now, she has this.
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every time, she has pd ignorance of these troeps. but they're tropes for a reason. she's picking up on language that is anti-semitic, quite frankly. i think nancy pelosi is doing what she has very carefully done, since this newaus has come together, which is try to very carefully thread that needle and try to sew these two different generations together. and it's getting harder. >> but there's only so much eaker pelosi can do. i met with seasoned veterans ov the last week. they said in this day and age of social media, where someone like representative omar can have millions of followers, the old rules don't apply. and so, speaker pelosi may try to cobble together legislation, to send a messag to voters. but the people who have political capital inside this party, arehose with a social media following. >> okay. if you get off socialdi the world looks normal. >> fairly different. >> but if you live on social
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media -- i men', i mean to carry this over. the nba is having a problem. its players ge mak all this money and they're depressed because they live onocial media and feel every negative comment and live it. that's what to happenin this younger generation. >> and part of it, o,s you don't know who is tweeting you. are they bots or real lepe and the challenge is, president trump has really done a fantastic job, communicating to a broader audience bas on his tweets. and it's toe-to-toe with a generation that expects they're going e their breaking news, not on "the new york times," but through a tweet. and you don't have to havete th accuraiteracy, of, is this accurate? that's a challenge. >> as a former mayor and governor, i thought thatlu reons without actions were empty gestures. and this resolution was an empty gesture, which tried to please everyone and ended up pleasing no one. but the problem wi the democrats, with these new millennials, i cl them the aoc millennials, not only do they
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think they hae the wers, they think they already have wisdom. and the nancy pelosis of the world have wisdom. and they are trying to explain to the younger people, wait, i'm the old person. and youha cannot make argument. >> there areome millennials at this table. >> bring it on, kasie. >> honestly, i think the leaders can learn something from the newer -- iur take oint that, you know, they have not had the kind of experience in and i think to a certain extent, there are going to be consequences for some of theon acthey take on social media, in the universe of trying to get things done. but on the other hand, i think the old guard doesn't reallhe understandower of what they bring. >> by the way, guys, iant to insert somebody into here really quickly. "the times" set it up ll. "the times" said, this is a debate in the democratic p do americans pine for a pre-trump equilibrium? or do the yawning disparities of these times call out for a more mational administration
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>> that. absolutely that. >> now, listen to aoc yesterday. listen to this. >> moderate is not a it's just an attitude toward life of, like -- the mehli is worshiped now for what? >> i rest my case. but the point i want to make is there's another issue that brought out the aoc millennials ainst the traditional liberal democrats. that was amazon. cuo cuomo, one of the most liberal mars of new york city we've ever had, gave tax breaks to a major multibillion-dollar aoc fought it. the $2 billion didn't exist. she didn't have the knowledge necessary of the economy. now, philosophy, that's a good argument. that's also showing the division in the democratic party. >> i think thathat millennials are feeling is they are feeling from their experience.no theythat something is off. they know their experience that they're going to have ari
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guaranteedter future than their parents is not going to happen. >> it's broken. >> it's broken. >> it used to be, if you worked hard and you followed the of your parents, you would end up working for a company that would take care of you for a long time. that's not the case anymore. it is simply not the case. >> it's bigger than age. the point representative cortez is making, is that the democratic party needs to move to t left. you look at this 2020 presidential race, where is the energy? fund-raising, bernie sanders. he's in his upper 70 yet, he's the runner-up from '16 and he's saying to people like the representave of new york, i'm your type of candidate. i'm not a mehcandidate, to use her term. >> it takes two 75-plus-year-old guys to have an argument between this generational argument here. are they placers hol for now until the younger generation gets more grass roots support? >> i think that everybody is
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waiting in the wings in large they are waiting for wbeto to announce. all of the democrats that are trying to move to the left,he has not necessarily said he is. and he's more palatable to the independents. and he's done that in an interesting wa if you ask h where his policies are, they're not on left. >> if there's a criticism on beto, you don't know where he stands. t>> all of left-wing stances, e e green plan, where the millennials realey have to have emergency and power at an affordable price, they will find t that energy is not cheap. you need energy to survive. and the reality is going to wake them up some time. this a conversation that needs more time. and i'm going to give it more me when we come back, president trump says michael cohen is lying about asking for a pardon. cohen says it's mr. trump who is lying. all right. what does adam schiff think because michael ♪
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welcome back. this was a week in which we saw president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort get sentenced to prison. the man who made sure donald trump secured the domination for the presidency, was sentenced to prison, with sentencing in another case coming this week. we saw mr. atrum cohen call each other a liar, over whether cohen sought a pardon from the president. we're going to turn to adam ff scwho joins me from los angeles. and on fosprinard day i'm grateful for you getting up that hour earlier. welcome back to "meet the press," their. >> thank you. >> let me start with who is lying? when it comes toen michael c
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asked for a pardon. and did michael cohen lie to congress again? >> well, the central question of our investigation , why did michael cohen lie before our committee about moscow trump tower? why would this be in his interest? was this something that he did one or were there others involved in it? and there are reathns to believe this was not a lone decision on michael cohen. what we are looking for is corroborative evidence. and the reason why this whole mosc trumpwer issue is so central to our investigation is, that it explains or potentially explains the idprt's bizarre affinity for vladimir putin. and that is, he stood to make more money from this transaction than hny deal in life. and sought the kremlin's help to make this ha while concealing this from the public. that may be an animated principle for the president. he may believe that when he leaves office, he still wants to build this tower. and while that may not be i
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criminal, nonetheless corrupt and distorts our policies. that isheertainly central question for us. in terms of who is telling the truth between michael cohen and the president, we know that the president has made probably over 1,000 false statements about the russia issues. and here, we're going to have to find what corroboration we can to find out where the truth lies. >> is it safe to say you can't take michael cohen on his word on anything? >> i don't think in terms of making the case to the public -- and here, we're not making the dis case to a jury, that we can rely on the testi of michael cohen. we're going to need corroboration. looklg at what mich cohen said in the open hearing and what his lawyer said afterwards, it was like what donald trump did when he said he had no knowledge of the payments to stormy daniels. and rudy giuliani said, oh, yes, he did. where is the truth there? we ask michael cohen about this extensively. those transcripts will be made
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publan. the public evaluate his credibility themselves. >> you know, it looks don't know this for sure, but it looks like robert mueller will complete his investigation without subpoenaing the president before the grand jury or coming upith a way to have him interviewed before the grand jury. president clinton went before ken starr's grand jury.if indeed, mr. mueller decides not to issue that subpoena or figure out how to get the president in front of that grand jury, is that going to have been a mistake, considering we have so many questions about who's testimony shld youbelieve? michael cohen's or donald trump's? >> yes, i think it is a .mista i said all along that i don't think bob mueller should itly on n answers. when you get written answers from a witness, it's really the lawyers' answers as much as thel nt's answer. you need to be able to ask follow-up questions in real-time. but i think the constraint that bob mueller is operating under, he had an acting attorney general who was appointed
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because he would be hostile to a bpoena on the president. and now, he has a permanent attorney general whohosen for the same hostility to his investigation, who would likely that step. i also think the special counsel feels some time pressure to conclude his work and knowing ute white house would drag fight over the subpoena. that may be an issue, as well. i think timately it's mistake because probably the best way to get the truth would be to puthe president under oath. as he's made pin in thepast, he feels it's fine to lie to the public after all he has sai it's not like i'm talking before a magistrate. maybe he should talk before magistrate. >> i wanto to move something that was a bit confusing. erik prince, the brother of the etary of education, but also has been before your committee, having to do s withme odd meets that he had set up in the seychell
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seychelles. he was on al-jazeera and he was asked about some testimony to yoer committee and about whe he lied or not. take a listen. >> we're there to talk about iran policy. >> there to talk about iran policy? isn't that important to disclose to the house committee under oath? >> i did. >> there's no mention of th trum tower meeting in 2016. why not? >> i don't know if they got the transcriong. >> so, this was about another meeting that erik prince believe with some other representatives of other countries, in trump tower, the second so-calledo trumpr meeting, not with russians but with other foreign based on what you heard there, is mr. prince fetelling the tru? >> he's not telling the truth on that interview.hi there is som wrong with our transcript. there was nothing wrong with the reporter who transcribed his testimony. he did not disclose that meeting to our committee. and as you can see from the published transcript of his interview, he was asked what kind of ro he played, if any,
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in the campaign, and he said he had no role, apart from on his own submitting written papers, hanging a yard sign or making a contribution. and he was also asked about any ntive policy conversations that he might have had.so his interview was certainly looks inconsistent with h testimony. bob mueller has that testimony already. and bob mueller will have to make the decision about whether th rises to the level of deliberate falsehood. we had questions at the time of his testimony about his candor and how forthcoming he was and those questions have been heightened now.t >> w your concern about what he was doing? >> theoncern is that this is another concealed meeting. another discussion that took place in the contextf the meeting that he had in the seychell there have been persistent questions about whether the uae was playing a back to the russians during the campaign. and those were a lot of the
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questions that we were asking him about. clearly, this meeting at trump tower with the players, was of direct interest to our committee. so, why conceal it? why withhold that information if there was nothing peimp no improper purpose in it? there are a lot of deeply concerning and unanswered questions surrounding erik prince and his involvent with the campaign. >> all right. adam schiff, i will leave it there. the democratic lead on the house intelligence committee, the chairman. thanks very muchor cominon, getting up early and sharing your views with us this morning. >> thank you. me> when we back, the state the democrats have on their people are fighting type 2 diabetes with fitness, friends and the pill that starts with "f." farxiga, along with diet and exercise helps lower a1c in adults with type 2 diabetes. although it's not for weight loss, it may help you lose weight. do not take if allergic to farxiga. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include rash, swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing.
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democrator president since bill clinton in 199 let's look to cobb county, what newt gingrich represented and the rapidly changing politics in the last few years. in 2012, cobb county voted for mitt romney by 12points. four years later it swung to hillary clinton and she won the points.by two before you say, that's just a donald trump anomaly, realize that this past november, stal y stacey abrams, the mocratic candidate, wonobb county by ten points. what's going on? we went down to cobb county to figure it out. >> it changing in cobb county. it was one more republican. now, we have a lot of move-ins and it's getting a mixture now. georgia is becoming a mixture. i sort of like the republican part of >> it's true. cobb county has seen a ton of
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people move in last few years. between 2010 and 2017,obb county's population grew 9.8%, outpacing growth in a georgia as whole. in that same time, cobb county has grown more with increases to the african-american and hispanic populations. simore nts have college degrees and median household income hasone from $66,000 to $72,000 per year. the more telling data may be where the transplants to cobb county are coming from. of t top 20 counties that people move to cobb from, sie 2012, 13 are from outside the state of georgia. and 15of those counties voted for hillary clinton, including queens, new l.york county and miami-dade. this is just cobb county, of course. but you can see aot of t changes in the other suburban counties, where the vote hasso wung towards the democrats in and around atlanta. so, is georgia ready to be a swing state again?
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>> the younger crowd isly definite going to go towards this. >> i have no doubt that a progressive candidate can win state-wide. >> i think georgia has been a swing state beinre. i it's moving towards that way again. >> i can't imagine not being a red state. i really can't. >> we'll find out soon enough. >> we'll find out soon enough. coming up, paul manafort, a how do you get skin happy aveeno® with prebiotic oat. it hydrates and softens skin. so it looks like this...
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have everybody talking. it's meaningful and meaningless at the same time. w we see the top two candidates are, biden and sanders. warren at 9, and harris at 7, right below harris is beto at 5. booker and klobuchar, over 1%. what is telling there, you can tell that buzz is everyt bernie's numbers went up six points from the last time. and what is the ditchfference between this time and the last time? bernie is in the middle of an announcement tour. >> and sanders is running as a movement politician. he's gotten rid of his consultants. he's built a movement from his 16 campaign. and senator warren has a message. break up the big companies, go after tech. it's a crowded space on that left side of the democratic party. >> you know, , one of the most interesting things in that poll, if you look at the numbers fobiden, the biggest chunk of
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them, if you ask who the second choice is, the answer is bernie sanders, which is pretty remarkable. i do think -- >> i thought so,eoo. they're mainstream of the party, the two of them together. >>yepotentially, and bernie sanders' fund-raising means that he is going to be a factor. he has a core of supporters. i'm not sure it'sig enough to win him big states. but if he polls 20%, 25% consistently, he will have the money to go the distance. mark my words, you will see him at the convention. >> bernie saers is one o the few people, he never stops campaigning. he does facebook lives where he has 30,000 people watching and he really appeals to young voters. for the very first time young g voters ang to outweigh, potentially, the millennials -- excue, the baby boomers. they will have more eligible voters. >> therefore, i would like to apologize and do a resolution, based on what i said about the millennials. i would like to say this, the more the candidates get out,
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we'll see trump numbers go up because there's going to be a comparison. it's already happening. and the morecongressman schiff talks about investigations, and continuing these investhgations, afte mueller report, i think trump numbers will go up. i think the democrs are going to put trump in office. >> speaking of the president, i want to play what he said about paul manafortau b there's a part of the empathy i really don't g when it comes to become the sitting president of the united states. take a listen. >> i feel very dly for paul manafort. i think it's been a very, very tough time forhim. but if you notice, both his lawyer, a highlyma respected and a highly respected judge, the judge, said there was no collusion with russia. >> well, the judge did no say that, though the judge did say this about manafort, i think this senncing range is excessive. he's been a good friend to others. what i don't understd is why e president is praising and feeling sorry for a man who defrauded american taxpayers for
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at least $6 million. >> you know who else wonders that? many trump advisers. they wish the president would be quiet about paul manafort. they wish judge ellis of alexandria would be their spokesman. >> could have been. >> he is making the best case for this administration. the deputy chiff of s out as the communications head. the president going on and on, talking about possible pardons. they wish all of that would just be noise.el it's lis case, diminishing the muobler that's what the white house wants. >> there's a video right now, of a whale almost swallowing a person swimming in the ocean. and he spits him out.tr p needs to spit manafort out. and the chairman of thete igence committee needs to get rid of cohen. stay away from both of them. they're not goodr for eit party. >> i think we need to clarify that what he was getting sentenced for was russian collusion. >> it was ripping off the american government of 30 years
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of lobbying. >> onehe ofonversations that people are having is how unjust the sentence was for this crime. if we look at this judge, this judge threw the book atpr entative jefferson from louisiana. >> anri african-an democrat from new orleans. >> he was found to have embezzled $400,000. >> the freezer casual. >> the freezer cash. >> it was so much lower than what paul manafort is dealing with. >> is there a justice when it comes to white collar crime. he was teetering on treason when it comes to this. was that fair? th's where we have to unpack the sentence that he was given. >> there's more sentencing coming for mr. manafort. the spinal tap drummer commission at the white house -- i mean the communications director position at the white 'suse -- >> theome insight. i love it. >> he brought up bill shine. >> you want to be the communication director? >> what does this an, kasie?
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>> to bob's earlier point, we're going to see me ofhe same. you know, i certainly wouldn't wa to be the person that needs to tell the president of the united states how to communicate withmerican people. good luck. he's been doing it his entire life. >> how much did "the new yorker" piece have to do with shine's release? >> the president was frust ted with bilshine, not bringing the fox news expertise. most revealing of the most recent weeks, president trump at ac, two urs. >> volume at 11 for president trump during thespeech. >> that's all i have for today. thank you for watching. thank you for springing forward with us. we'll be backeext week beca if it's sunday, no matter the hour, it's "meet the press."
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is there a connection between the latest downed boeing 7 max 8 jet in ethiopi that took 157noives ander that went down in october? >> the whole issue of the wall, border security is of paramount importance. we have a crisis down there. i think the president has made that case very effectively. >> today the white house will begin a full core press to secure $8.6 billion in new 722 miles of ld new wall. >> but are we focusing on the right border? our kerry sanders says think again, and lookth n. >> a selfie with the guar. ho one person took the risk and paid a serious price. >> we do not hole

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