this sunday on the campaign trail. beto o'rourke is running. >> i am running to serve you as the next president of the united drates. nd he aws throngs of voters, lots of supportersew specifics. >> if you have all of the answers, why show up? >> but in iowa, t democrat told me what sets him apart. >> there's one candidate that can talk about the impact that immigrants have had on our safetycnd ity. and my one-on-one with senator amy klobuchar on her campaign. >> i wasn't born to run. but i'm running. >> on whether she's a >>progressive. i am a progressive. >> and onwnringing health care costs.

>> pharma thinks they don't washington. and the first attempts to block the emergency declaration. and mr. trump strikes back. >> congress has the freedom to pass this resolution. and i havehe duty to veto it. the 12 talk to 1 of republican senators who voted against the president, patey tof pennsylvania. and the terror attack in new aland. how white supremacy is being driven by a dark, internet culture. jose diaz-balart. yamiche alcindor. arthur brook and susan page, washington bureau chief of "usa today." welcom "to sunday. itet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest running show i television history, this is

"meet the press" with chuck todd. >> goo sunday morning. happy st. patrick's day. the race for the democratic nomination has been going on for somew.ime but beto o'rourke's announcement on thursday, fairly or not, seemed to signal that the starting gun, at least on the campaign part of it, had just gone off.e th were candidacies that matched the frenzy. ted kennedy was the presumed caidate against president carter, until he announced. three decades lat, a first-term senator barack obama rode his announcement enthusiasm all the way to the white house. and a ronald reaganandacy generated huge excitement, when he lost to president ford and when heon in landslide in 1980. the "vanity fair" cover story has drawn mparison.

the gifted athlete like reagan. or ts lig that flame out like john edwards. however o'rourke's candidate begins, it's in full gre of a fascinated media. >>e'll make or break the future in th country. >> in iowa, beto o'rourke is making it official. he's running. after an early morning - announceme >> i'm running to serve you as the next president of the united states. >> -- that glassy "vanity fair" story saying i'm just born to be init. and the expected attacks from the president. >> a lot of hand movement. i've never seen such hand movement. >> o'rourke is betting on a tional audio tin meunity messag avoiding specifics. >> if you're not going to listen and to learn, what is the use of campaigning. he was once for medicaid for

all. >> that's one of the ways to ensure we gent tora nteed, for-quality health car every american. i'm not sure that's the fastest way to get there. >> and he dclined to say if president trump should be impeached. one thing o'rourke made clear, he plans to run to the right bernie anders and elizabeth warren on economic issues. he is responding to criticism after these comments in iowa about his wife. >> my wife, raising, sometimes with my help, you lulysses and molly and haley. not only will i not say that again, but i will thoughtful the way i talk about our marriage and the way i acknowledge t truth of the criticism that i have enjoyed whiteprivilege.

>> other candidates are raising money off of oourke's candidacy. t he more the merriemerrier. >> do you have a comment on beto o'rourke rning for president? >> anybody can run. >> and then, joe biden nearly slipped up and declared himself a candidate a bit early. >> i have the most progressive record for anybody running for -- anybody that would ru biden, clearly arguing electability, as democrats decide whether it's ideological ansformation, change or simply who can win. >> the most electable ss proge. >> how important is the electability to you? >> it's hug >> yesterday, i was in waterloo, iowa. good t be back there. and i grabbed a few moments with

o'rourke. his campaign kicked off four months after his loss to senator ted cruz, which was one of his favorite applau lines because it is one of the best showing he can make because it was the best showing a democrat had in an election. >> when i heard you came up short. what if you hadn't? would you be i waterloo? >> i might be in waterloo. i i don't kni would be in waterloo and all of the b communities i'n in, running for president. i was running to serve amy stat. and i made the commitment that i was going to serve every one of the six years in public trust. i have an opportuny, now, to do something the country badly needs. i get a b chance to part of something that the country badly needs. that's come gether at this very divided moment.

not just coming together for sick of it. but coming together to achieve the rlly ambitious goals together. >> you're not the first to say i'm going to bring this country together. a democratic predent and a lot of people put the hope in and thought he was the candidate thatould do that. why didn't that happen in obama's eight years? what was hard and why do you think you'll be able to do it? >> i don't know. i know that president obama worked incrediblyard to find common gro and democrats alike. took a message to the entire country. but he was able to achieve ahe of a lot in those eight years. domestically y look at the accordable care act. millions of americans who lead mbetter lives,ny of the lives saved because of that legislation. in foreign policy,ou prevented iran from obtaining auclear weapon. and there were little and, perhaps, smaller victories along

the way. everyone i met, the mostem partisanrat and hard-core republican, wants to see us get together. they don't wan the perfect to become the enemy of the good. if we wai until we are in office to begin this work, it will be too late. it has to start now in the way that we campaign. >> you admitted that, you're in a party right now that isn't interested in a white male candidate. and you're ae disadvant that. and the coverage of your campaign, criticized going on. it's not fair. he's getting coverage that some of the candidates didn' t. you tried to answer some of the criticism. what do you say to it? >> i would never begin saying i am at any disadvantage at all. as a white man, who has had privileges that others could not depend on or take for granted, i've clearly hads advantaer the course of my life. i think recognizing that and understanding that others have

not, doing everything that there is everything for the opportunity and possibility for advancement for everyone, is a big part of this campaign and a big part of the pesele who comphis campaign. i think this is the best field that we've ever seen in a nominating process. i think the diversity of brou background, expertise, that is brought to bear on these problems is exceptional. and i know at tend of the day we'll be on the same team. that's the way i'm going to continue to run. i happen to be the only candide from the unite states/mexico border at a time that that is dominating our impact. and there's one candidate that can talkbout the impacts that immigrants had in safety and security. i ran for state-wide office in what was thought to be a red state and that state is in play by some people's estimation.

there's some things, perhaps, to will be different about this candidate, from the candidacy of others. >> we're goingto get a long time. people are trying to get to kno who you are. give me threeou or fr book nas you read that would say, if you read those books you will get an idea of how i think. >> "the odyssey" is my favorite bo all-time. it's got so many stories within the story. ultimately about homecoming, family and friendship, adventure and struggle and loss. i'm in the middle of reading "uninhabitable earth," which clearly describes theco equences of inaction. i'm reading articles by an economist namedrek hamilton, that talks about how wealth is i accumulated in country, that disproportionately favors white hoeholds versuslack

households and lays out some prescriptions for coming back.m and reading a book by joseph campbell about the power of m and the universality of human experience. it's a great way to escape from the immediate world and get to something deeper. at theim same t further away. those are a few books. >> thanks. >> i appreciate it. thank you, chuck. >> that was former congressman, beto o'rourke, with that quick inteiew with me in waterloo, iowa. if you're into politics, there was no better placea to in i new hampshire when a presidential race begins. there's no better place to be than iowa, where i sat down with amy klobuchar. we sat down at the screamin' eagle bar angrill. i asked her when sheo decided run for president. it was in college.

was not at birth. >> do you feel born to do this? >> that's beto line. >> it is the beto line. you brought it up. >> i have a lot of respect for beto. it's great to have some texas in this race. no. i wasn't borto runfor office just because growing up in the '70s in the middle of the country, i don't think many people thought a girl could be presidn t. i wasn't b run. but i am running. >> you said during your announcement, we shouldn't wallow over what's wrong. is there anhing donald trump's done as president, you know, that wasn't ad? >>well, i am glad he's pushing on venezuela right now. i think that's really you have a dictator in place there that's got to go. he has done a number of things he said he wanted go, like bring down prescription drug prices, which i agree with. he doesn't have the will to get it done, whether it's the people around him whispering, don't

take on the pharma companies. or the inability to work with congress on legislation. simple drug prices. we can bring them down. >> you brought up venezuela. what would be your line on a military interception. he's using motorcycle gangs. it's clear people are getting killed there. whatoint do you think it's a united states problem, too? >> right now, it's our problem that we need to push for humanitarian aid. we needa to sure that we're glad we recognize who should be the president here. i'm also glad that we're trying to push maduro out. but the answ here to make sure that we are working with our allies, pushing for democracy in some kind of appreciated agreement. the military should be on the table but i don't see that we use it now.

>> generaltanley mcchrystal asks a question he does in job interviews. it's this -- what would someone who does not like youay about you? >> i think you've heard some of it. some people might say i can be too tough and i push thin too hard. that's a fair criticism. but i do it for a reason and i do it because i want to have high expectations for myself and for the people around mer and our country. and i think those expectations have fallen in the last few years. and we need to get them to the place where america is again, the beacon of democracy in a country that can be respected along the world. nation.our >> how important do you think it is for the decratic party to minate somebody that isn't a white male? >> i don't think there should be one litmus test. but our ticket should reflectun the y.

and i like to say, may the best woman >> the majority of the democratic party is female, not male. is that the case? >> for the country, a woman can rt well represent men. and what bothers me is people that don't think that. iny own state, i have won with women and i've won with men. i've won every congressional district, including michele bachma bachmann's. i am proud to be a woman candidate. going where it's comfortable and uncomfortable. when you look at 2018, we have a road map. a number of incredible women won, including two, new congresswomen iowa, including the new governor of kansas, laura kelly. >> presidents have a lot of things they promise when they run. we're talking about various issues. the reality is, the first issue

you pick, the first issue you pick is t best chance you have to get passed and everything else decreases. what is number one in your mind that you know, it will be the hardest thing to do, health care was obama's, what is yours? >> bringing down health care costs wi much-needed changes to the affordable care act. that would be pharmaceutical prices. i have been on this for over a decade. neither during democratic or republican administrations but we haven't had decreases. they don't own me. this would ia to neg lower prices under medicare, less expensive drugs fromcanada, stopping the delay process with senatorgrassley. i would also on day one, put us back into the international climate change agreemett. >> me go to health care. i heard you say this you'd love medicare for all, but

you have to do what you think you can do. sounds like you're the candidate of obamacare. and it sounds lik you believe, make obamacare work first. >> i believe in bringi out universal health care to all americans. >> you want to use the structurb ofacare? >> yes, i do. and the fastest way to get there is with the public option. you can do it with medicate and medicare. i would get that done in the first year as president. there's no reason we can't do that, as well as immediately using cost-sharing things in iowa. >> what do you tell folks who say, obamacare is not the answer. go to medicare for all? what do you tell them? >> we tell them we had major successes on the affordable care act. ave stopped people from being thrown off their insurance opinion pre-existing condition. >> and finally, there's

apparently going to be another conversation in the republicanic party for reparation for descendants of slaves. where do you wham docome down o? >> we have to help the communities that have been racised by what we can do is invest in the communities. acknowledge what's happened. that mean better education. that means for our whole economy, community college, one-year degrees. minimum wage. child care. making sure that we have that shared dream of opportunity for all americans. an i'll tellou this, we may look different. we mayburay different. we all have that shared dream of america. an that is not being sent to many communities right now in this country. and it is hurting, not just them, it is hurting our whole country. >> is reparations debate a good debate? or is it onehat can get taken out of context?

>> i think tease debates are good to have. it's good to have a debate on the environment now, so we can make the case, you know what? economically, when your home insurance goes up by 50%, we have a problem. we have an economicprobable on mi climate change. when we have the weather coming down fm mississippi and this is happening and you have hurricanes battering flora and wildfires in colorado and california, these are debates we have to have. we have to have a debate on race, yes.t m tired of admiring the problem. let's get the solutions in place. that's what's cool about the fact th we have leadership in the house that's finally pushing through ethics tbills,ing to get the dark money out of politics.e we a different place after 2018. it will be proposals passing one house being squashed down by donald trump. this is our moment to ge it

ne in 2020. >> senator klobuchar talked about if she is o in favor adding members to the supreme court, and about the death penalty and the label progressive. you can see all of my sit downs on minneapol"meet the press."co. beto is in. what's that mean for the one name that's unannounced, joe biden. i aed democrat voters what they're looking for in a candidate. what matters somebody you agreeith more? or just the person best equipped to take on >>trump? i think it needs to be a combination both. >> what matters are the >> what matters are the >> we want what all money managers might seem the same, but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs.

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>> welcome back. jose diaz belard. susan page, of "usa today." and arthu books, the author of "love your lenemies." gok with that. >> thank you. rtt's start today. >> i want to staith you with bero ke. >> right. >> in some ways, you and i spent a lot of time this week, about your book. and he trying to be an uplifting messenger. you try to be an uplifting me messenger from a conservative point of view. he's a lot of optimism, but do you sense there there? >> it's hard to say. he's ascertained that america does not want another player in th outraged industrial complex.

he knows forat a demoo be donald trump, you have to be nice, normal and not weird. that's what he is trying to do. he has to backd pedal have to be out of town. and now, he has to back and apologize for it. that's a mistake for him to do thatat i believe t the brand of being normal and nice with be ib incr successful, not to be outraged, not to fire people up in theha way they others and treat others with contempt. so far, so good. he has to have substae goingrw d. >> there's another challenge, under the unbearable male privilege of beto o'rourke. it's not ne that women have to be at least twice as qualified and still exist twice as much criticism and doubt. for decrats and as the current

presidency illustrates, we have aof bias newness, conflict and theater. the contrast between beto and klobuchar and the ways they're going about this, this is emblematic. >> pretty remarkable. amy klobuchar could not have thought about hersf as being born to be president. when she was born, wim could not aspi be president. and we haven't had a woman as president, even that's a message that may persist with some little girls. of course, she doesn't come with that sort of confidence about her role in the world. she offers sen terrorist im, and pragmatic views. let's bringown health care costs. let's heal the nation. thos are different approaches to presidential politics. >> i was thinking about your an ex, though, with senator sloeb char, when you asked her about reparations.

instead ofllf the qualities, she pivoted to climate change and talking to all americans that's a message that shouldd democrats. the democratic party, especially the base, is hungry to s , i know things aren't equal. i'm going the look at this boat here and say african-americans atve particular problems t stem from slavery. let's look at them where we can look at things not just as all and beto will have issues when it comes to people receiving him in this party. we're looking at the candidates with 2019 eyes. we're looking and saying, you have your wife in this vi three-minuteo. why can't you speak if the wife is going to be there, have her say something. some might be saying you're being too politically correct, and be has t navigate that.

>> and he gets the "vanity fair" cover. he's onvery cover of magazines. why is that? why is it that someone is chosen to be the posteatperson for hot and interesting at the time? why is it that people who have deep thoughts and klobuchar h some very interesting policy positions. talking aboutel vene by the way, going onno right it's a crisis we must deal with. it is the fla r of themonth. why is it? >> he's attractive. i ofan, the trut the matter, he is somebody that the people want to look at. the same way that people are talk about alexandria ocasio cort cortez. >> and you think, is he johnrd edor ronald reagan? ronald reagan was good-looking

and fresh andin intere he had a lot of specific policy proposals that he had developed over decades of thinkingabout them. day one, beto o'rourke doesn't know what he a thinksut medicare for all. on day 50, he better. >> that's why i think we're going to see a vetting of that. people will look at beto and say, w is he getting that coverage? why does he get to say that he's not exactly sure of things and gets to go on this tour where he thinks about himself? i would say that casey abams, someone who hasn't announced with 2020, saying i'm dealing with the after-effects of renning for governor and losing. i think people okay with that from a black woman. >> there is another - you abrams. up stacyey she's clearly leaning more into a presidential perhaps than many people realize. let me play that clip from

biden last night. forget the accidental slip-up. listen to the fist part of what he said. >> get criticized by the new left, i have thos progressive record of anybody who ng for the -- anybody would run. >> it was a very important tell. not the second part. e first part. susan page, he's going to run on the obama/biden record and say, whatever y want to say, that's the new standard-bearer for m. progressiv top it. i did it. he's running his third term. can you looke back and the candidate of the future? >> historically, no. historically, that's a really hard think to do. and joe biden has a problem, too. he had a long history in public office, including some aspects not s career in a do represent the most progressive parts of the american government. he's going to be challenged on

where does he stand? and where does he stand, as you say, looking forward, not aroking back. either with eight of the obama/bide administration, or the years before that. >> can he handle six months of iowans kicking the tires on other candidates, while his support goesdown? like, we're here for biden. but he has to go through others. >> i'm waiting for anita hill interview. i'm waiting for the person who talks about integration. the name recognition is why he is at th top of the ticket. i think there's a vetting. >> i'm lookingorward to the debate that nbc and telemundo ll together. >> his key str gth is goin

be when he says, he's a uniter, not a divider. the new left. they're a bunch of kwid divide e divider thtrying to whip up people. >> that's an important message he was sending to the party. president trump took not one, not two, but three from congress this week. i'm going to talk to senator pat toomey of pennsylvania. >> i'm more concerned about health care, number one. that peopleng aren't talking about, the public education. that's huge. >> we hve real issues. we have challenges. this is the most diverse city in a state per capita. >> education. health care. civil us as people. they see us as profits. we're paying the highest prescription drug prices in the world so they can make billions? americans shouldn't have to choose between

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back.lcome president trump was rebuked three times by members of his own party on capitol ll. to end the war of yemen, largely in response to president trump's handling of the murder of the journalist. and 12 republicans joined 47 democrats to reject his energy . declarat president trump made his first veto of his presidency. there's not engh votes to override it. this is likely the end of the debate. the supreme court comes next. joining me now the one of the republicans who voted against the president, senate every pat toomey pennsylvania. >> good morning, chuck. >> i feel like you and your

other 11 republicans thatoted with the democrats on this, trying to send the president a message about the constitution, a message about article one versus article two did not hear that version of the message. the predent was almost gleeful into g it. is that disappointing that he didn't hear your constitutional argument? >> the president came to a different conclusion about the constitution and the law, as ddr three-rs of my republican colleagues. >> do you think they mean that orhey voted that way? >> i don't question the motives. i look at what people do you're right, this was never about the wall. i'm pretty sure the republicans that voted in favor of disapproving the energy declaration. if we did have the votes to override the president's veto, the president would b able to

build the wall. what's important is the surce he to fund that.d it sho a combination of sources,hat congress has approved of, not dubious basis. for me, it was about the separation of powers. th's an important issue. >> do you hope the supreme court takes this up? and which part -- how do you want them to look at this? do y want themto look at the appropriations aspect of it? or the legislative disapproval of the ergency? >> i might have an outlier and nuanced view. i'm not sure it's an illegal act. i think it's a senained arg but a plausible argument for the ergality of what the president did. s a plausible argument for the constitutionalalty. what weed v on on thursday, was not a question ifenhe pres has broken a lot.

we voted on whether weofapprove hat he did. i approve of border wall construction. ith don't approve oway he's funding it. i voted to disapprove the declaration. the courts might side with him. >> you don't know for sure if this is unconstitutional. this is the first time the emergency act was use to essentially -- to overturn a rejection of a funding proposal to refund it. that something that had never been done before in the emergency act. >> i totally agree. that's why it was inappropriate, i think. that's why i voted as i did. courtse reluctant to overrule a call on what's an emergency. and congress did delegate auority to the president. so sh so. >> is it time to redo the

emergency act? >> absolutely. >> do you want that the 30-day -- >> yeah. >> it's the other way. congress doesn't flip it the other way, essentially? >> yeah. you're absolutely right. >> i think decades now, congress has been transferring too much constitutional authority from the legislative branch to the executive. that's bad for a respective mo acy, for a republic such as ours. this is one arewe should reclaim the legislative responsibility that we have in gathis . we delegated this authority to the president. yoknow, initially, that delegation of authority, the national emergency act, included congressional-only veto asat was struck down. requiringnt before a declaration can go forward. that.ly suppor it will be interesting to see what our democratic colleagues do, chthk. 're happy to poke president

trump in the eye.in will they s to make sure it never happens again? epublicanof your colleagues said a lot of rhetoric about barack obama and executive power. >> right. you can make the argument, president trump is wupushing th limits even further. when do you realize we are in bad place here? >> we are in a bad place. don't think president trump pushed it forward. i think obama did it further. the daca and dapa. i was very critical of that an that's why i think republicans should stand up.an if the president gets into a gray area or uses legislation in a way that congress didn't intend. i am hoping those of us that are ernsistent about that, that we restre some of the authority

where congress belongs. >> i want to ask about what happened in new zealand. i want to ask about in terms of rhetor rhetoric. the president offered condolences to the people of new zealand. and her answer was, can you say better things about muslim communities around the world. when the president uses the term invad invaders, does that dehumanize to the point where it can get misused? it's not healthy for anybody, for crazy people to be citing our president of the united states in their tomanif. >> i often disagree with what the president has said and what he has but it's a long way to attribute a real link between what president might say and tweet and the extraordinary type of madness that leads someone toma acre people in large nambers, whether it's in pittsburgh at a gue or in

insist dnew zealaninsisnew zeal. >> trson is fired up on the dark corners of the internet.be let'honest. if this person had used nbc airwaves or comcast equipment to ush out that manifesto and killing, the world of hurt would be brought down on us by the fcc. there are regulators out there. companies have done nothing about this. they wait until after the fact. do we need totoo something treat the companies as media companies? that facebook hould bed as responsible as any broadcast media company would? >> it's a big, important discussion, chuck. i don't know where we come down onco this. thesanies are aggregators. they don't have their own news dpartments. th't have their own editorial boards.

they're providing a platform. i don't think there's an obvious or easy answer. >> senator toomey, i will leave it here. senator of pennsylvania, thank for sharing your ews. when we come back, millennials are much more open to socialism o thaner voters. and we may have figured ou kevin, meet your father. kevin kevin kevin

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back now with "end game." i w wasn't --'re sort of out of the trump tweet business here. but my word, the last 48 hours, he seems to be on another level of agitation. every conspiracy theory he can this of on mueller and all stuff, and now, angrily attacking jinn mccain a or thundershower, your book is love your enemies.

what do you tell to meghan mccain? what do you tell to people when he's sitting here, just angrily and mean-spirited way continues to sully this man? >>e's on the wrong side of where most americans are. 93% of aricans hate how divided we've become as a one in six members have stopped talking to a family member because of politics. that's not a mainstream point of view. >> donald trump -- this is him. >> i got it.e that's how works. but the point of fact, that's an opportunity for all of us with a public platform and all aspiring politicis, and people on college campuses start a new movement and starts with themselves. they don't want this pay tread a hatred. >> social media has made people maximumists. i must not disagree with you, i

must destroy you because you think dierently than ido. we all have a responsibility to tone that down.ha >> w an opportunity. here's the key thing. we're unhappy because of this. we have an opportunity to be happy as people by acting in a different way. >> the person who resides in the white house cannot help imself. he has built his brand and ucceeded by being mean and attacking people. in john mccain's case, the fact that he is really angry athim, angry at his legacy and angry that he's probably thinking about the amazing funeral h had and all of the people who are saying about how he was a hero d how he was a symbol of america in the best of his country. i think that the president just can'thelp himself when he looks on "snl" and sees people ridiculing him. i want to vent and be angry. >> it tells us something particular, which is how concerned donald trump is about the report. thisrk s the tweet that goes

back to the steele dossier. i don't think it his dislike for john mccain. i think it's the perils that are ahead, perhaps very soon. >>ords matter. speaking of words, here's the president being asked about th issue of white supremacy and the mass murder in newealand. >> did you see today, wte nationalists are a rising threat around the world? >> i don't, really. i think it's a small group of people that hve very, very serious problems. if you look at what happened in new zealand, perhaps that's a case. >> but the real issue may be what's happening on the dark internet. i want to bring up with "the new york times" highlighted on saturday. online extremism is regular extremism on steroids. there's no offline equivalent. the internet is now the place where the seeds of extremism are planted and waters, where

platform incentives send people toward the ideological poles. andan people feed and hate off of each other. we work with new zealand to worry about extremism with radical islamist flowers. it sounds like we need a white nationalism database and work th our allies on this. >> the idea is that the president had this opportunity to denounce white nationalism. i was mentioned in the manifesto and it was disgusting. he said, it's a problem b not as big as people are making it out to be. i was talking to white house officials just this morning who say they think the prident was condemning this act and people should take it as condemning white nationalism. there can be programs done into white nationalism because we know it's a thing. >> we have two who cite norway. this is the dark web, susan.

u brought it up, jose. >> it's not just the white na onalists. look at all of the assassins, theterrorists, in san bernadino, in pittsburgh, in brazil this week. they're all basing it on others who they found on the internet to he the same thoughts and concepts. >> this is not just the dark web. you saw james hodge kkinnison. he was reading mainstream political content that was othering and deviant. saying people are evil and stupid on the other side. for us, it might whip us up into a frenzy. that's a big problem. lithat's our responsi is people in public life. >> as somebody said, when facebook worried about a child pornography issue being spread different ways, they found a way to fix the algorithm to deal with it. they can do something abt t,

they choose not to. >> we are just beginning understand how this works out. they affect the debate in ways we are just beginning to try to figure out. and it's changing attitudes t towa social media companies. there was a time when government regulation of social media companies were -- >> tax-free internet. >> that day is over. the social media companies are being held to level of responsibility. that's going to involve new forms of government legislation. >> we should be looking into this. we should being looing at whi nationalists and what they do with it. all of uspo have a ribility to talk about the importance. >> we can fix it.lk g about the big problem, which is anonymity on the internet. o> all of us can do more. >> you have have the will to do this from the federal government. the president right now does noh seem like the will to do this. >> true. >> and then, senator toome

telling you, when you ask that smart question, what should we do with the social media companies. he says, i'm not really sure. >> thece co, it's us against them. we're better than you. we don'tassimilate. all this is what we are doing to mitigate this divide. >> and they can deal withl the le ananonymity. >> this has to be the last comment. i have 15 seconds to say this. that's all we have for today. thank you r watching. enjoy not too much green beer but just enough. we'll be ck next weekecause if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."

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