this sunday the fallout. president trump clai victory over the mueller report. >> total exoneration, complete vindication. >> allies line up to defend. >> and what did we hear this week? no collusion. noru obstction. >> a total vindication. nt>> and the presi goes after his opponents. >> little pencil neck adam schiff. >> the democrats push back. >> the president has not been exonerated by the special counsel. >> and condemn mr. trump's conduct. >> i think it is immoral. i think it is unethical. i think it is unpatriotic. and, yes, i think it's corrupt and evidence of clusion.

>> my guests this morning,two nate leaders. also, president trump vows agn repeal and replace obamacare. >> the republican party wl soon be known as the p ty of health care. you tch. >> did mr. trump just hand democrats a winning issue? >> and the 2020 campaign. >> i am a dreamer and a doer. >> can a self-described extreme nomination inhe an increasingly progressive democratic party? i'll talk to fmer colorado governor. joining me for insi analysis are hallie jackson, cornell belcher, peggy noonan. welcome to sunday. it's"meet the press." >> this is "meet theress" with

chuck todd. good sunday morning. it turns out we're still waiting for the mueller port. friday, attorney general bill barr sent a letter to congress promising to release t report with redactions no later than mid-april and said there are no plans to submit the report to the white hous what may be surprising is howli le his four page summary seems to have had on public opinion. our poll shows that 40% of adults don't believe it clears mr. trump of wrongdoing. but lo at this number. a very significant 31% remain unsure. perhaps those 31% areel w waiting for the actual report to be released or they haven't been paying that close attention to this president trump's approval rating sits at 43%,it 53% disapproving. that is down from last month's

numbers. but it's we withi the president's rate. you can see in the last four months, mr. trump's approval ratings have stabled even though they are weak. it iserhaps why the president introduced scorched earth theory as democrats are debating which one of their candidates can survive the onslaught. what was surprising is what mr. trump did during his celebration dance. no collusion and handed the political gift of their own, a chance to defend obamacare now that he has vowed again to try to i repeal without any alternative. >> the russia hoax finally dead. >> president trump took a victory lap this >> total exoneration, complete vindication. >> the total vindication. >> as clear a vdication or

exoneration that you can get. >> while mueller did not conclude that the presidentim committed a e with the russian government, he also did not exonerate him of obstruction of justice. and t int new nbc news wall street journal poll, 6% of democrats, 19% of ndependents and 64% of republicans believe the report clears mr.mp tf wrongdoing. now they are demanding the full report be released by tuesday. >> we want the report and we can draw our own conclusions. we don't need you interpreting for us. it was condescending. it was arrogan >> i am confident in the atifrney general. that's what he would like to do, i have nothing to hide.id the prt appeared to have reversed course tweeting the problem is no matter what the radical left democrats get, it will never be enough. maybe we should just take our victory and say no.

barr already saidi he redact the report for grand jury testimony, classified d information information that would, quote, infringe on the peonal privacy and reputations of what he called peripheral third parties. another way, perhaps of invoking executive privilege. the democrats have now decide whether they will continue defrauding the public with ridiculous -- >> republicans have moved on to singling o enemies. >> he needs to resign from the committee. >> little pncil neck adam schiff, sick, sick. these are sick s people. iff called out the president's conduct. >> i think it is immoral. i think it is unethical. i think it is unpatriotic. and, yes, i think it's corrupt and evidence collusion. >> and mr. trump appears focussed on revenge, attacking his investigators seeking to

blunt their iredibility. sorry. they have to be accountable. >> some republicans worry that the president will fix o sate the wrong message and were rattled by the surprisingte decision to a federal appeals court on monday that the entire affordable care act should be overturned. >> i'm very disappointed and opposed. >> we have a chance of wikillin obamacare. we'll do it a different way. >> joining now is the chair of the senate republican welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me, chuck. et>> i want to to health care. let me start with the mueller report. i understand the public perhaps seeing a redacted version. shouldn't congress who gets regular intelligee reports, shouldn't congress see -- some

members of congress see the full report? >> the headlines were clear last week, in collusion, no coblation, no conspiracy. i called for a full report. he >> unredacted? >> that's what i have been calling for. i understand the attorney genel has specific issues and areas he has to be concerned.k i thything you give to congress ultimately everyone will see. i don't see a lot of difference in making sure the s publices it. >> do you think it's a misstrak to draw this fight? you're esentially having the wrong debate in congress. >> well,or i'm transparency and for accountability. when mueller was appointed, he was the patron saint of all that is just and good in the world as dine feinstein said. that's what chuck schumer said. now they just want to throw him der the bus when they found out there was nothing there. they don't seem to be happy with the results. but he is somebody that was praised from both sides of the aisle as being able to do a fame

comm to the job assigned to him. confident there is nothing there.ai he it also does not exonerate him. what do you take that to mean? >> well, the headlines, no o collusion, collaboration, no conspiracy. that's what is there. the headlines are bill barr's memo. bill barrsaid the report doesn't exonerate him. where do you come down? >> i'veke for a full report to be released. the attorney general will make that fin decision and ultimately the voters will make that decision, as you just saw from your report. >> right. >> last week, nbc interrupted a golf tournament, cbs interrupted the final four. t people wante get back to the sports they were watching. they were morenterested in that than they were in the breaking news. >> you may be right. let me ask yis the special counsel did not -- did not find a crime when its

co conspiracy. there is a counter intelligence investigation. this is what wenow from it. and i'm curious if you think the president isexonerated from all of these things, allegedly asking comey for loyalty, telling com he hoped he could let flynn go, telling the russian ambassador inhe oval office he got this comey thing out of the way, the public asking for help. the president's behavior, while he's technically exonerated from a crime, is he exonerated from his behavior as a president? >> every president many things.n behavior is part of that. the electorate will be asked to make that judgment in 2020 and we'll see how they decide. >> but what do you think on this? >> i think that the president has been clear with the american people. he has been, i believe, falsely accused for the last two years and mller has prov the fact that there was no collusion or conspiracy. >> do you thinke was falsely accused because of his behavior

led people to believe there was something more there. do you think it was propriate for him to want to do business with adladimir putin and russia >> the president is an rn inional businessman, has had success all around the world. its not surprising when he chose to run for business, he continued to do the business. >> you stated bunch of facts there. you didn't state any opinion. do you think it is appropriate? >> i think it is not surprising international businessmen do these things. >> but he wanted to run f business. should he have given that up? it may have helped tgger all of the suspicion. >> it probably did trigger the suspicion, but i don't think there is a fault there on the part of the prestent. >> i w to ask you one other thing about bill barr's reading of expansive executive power. here is what he said about what he wrote his memo before coming attorney general. he said constitutionally it is wrong to conprive of the ident as simply the highest

officer within the executive branchhirerky. he alone is the executive branch. no is placed on the kinds of cases subject to his control and supervision. this maintains -- do you believe the attorney general is right of thisxpsive view that essentially the president of the united states is the law? >> well, i believe thene attorn l is right in his evaluation of the law and how it works, but no man is above the law. >> how could you, though, correct this viewpoint? you are sayinghe that right, but it does claim that acs sitting president of the united states, he is above the aw >> i'm not araulawyer. i don't play a lawyer on television. there is experts that look at that. >>u think investigating the investigators is a good idea? >> lindsey is a pit bull and i >>ink he's heading down that road? o you think it is a good idea. you have been very careful not to express your personal opinion

on these things. to get inion is we need beyond this. we need to focus on our strong,g healthy, groeconomy, focus on the issues in the american mind. this is not something i hear about at home in wyoming. i was there this past weekend. >> do you think not investing hillary clinton is -- do you think notil investigatingry clinton is the way to go? >> it does seem to me that's how we got here to begin with and all of the things leading up to the 2016 i wish it would all be behind us, but we're not there yet. >> the president sid you, senators cassidy and senator scott, are coming up with an alternative health care plan that will prect pre-existing conditions and replace obamacare. is that true? and what does this plan look like? >> as you know, it's going to need bipartisan support because nancy pelosi is the speaker of the house. every time i talk to president trump we talcabout health e. he knows with regard to kpe existing conditions that i'm a

doctor. my wife is a breast cancer survivor. she's been through surgery three times, chemotherapy twice.s he kn i'm 100% committed as are repubcans to protecting people with pre-existing conditions. we are absolutely continuing to wo this, realizing that it has to be bipartisan. i my conce that the biggest threat that i see to the freedom and the economy of this country is this complete government takeover of health care, which e where thecrats are going, this medicare for all with longer lines,aoning of care, higher taxes, less freedom. it is now the liberalitmus test. >> i understand that. >> all the democrats running for president. >> that isn't th right now.is is it a mistake for the president to have joined the lawsuiha to say obamacare is unconstitutional? do you want it o yrturned? do want the courts to overturn this right now or do you want it kept in place until you can figur it out? >> there is not going to be any decision on thisr couple of

years, but shouldn't be a surprise to anybody that republicans areto opposed obamacare. >> but for ten years you have been. i was thinking about this. it was '09 that we began the debate. it is 2019. you guys have been having a plan to protect pre-existing conditions for ten years and you haven't been able to come upe. with you haven't been able to come for one. why should we expect it now? >> the obama health care law i think we agree it has failed to keep its promises. i was at my medical office on friday talking to tients, doctors. the cheapest bronze plan in wyoming for a family of four $1,900. the deductible $12,000.ot that's right. the president is right. this is on the american people's minds. >> but you can't find an alternative that would make that cheaper yet. >> right now we have done things o lower the cost of pharmaceuticals. they're lower this year than last year.

we got rid of th gag order on pharmacists. we have people joined together to get half the cost. you want to let people buy what they need,hat's appropriate for them so they could get the care they need from a doctorat they choos lower costs. >> let me ask s.thi should the american people pect an actual health care plan alternative from the republican party this year? >> the american people should expect to not have to be buened with the incredible costs that are affecting them now. >> will we see a new plan? >> ihave been working on a plan since the day i got to the senate. >> 12 years now. >> it is allowing people to buy them.works for let ranchers join together and deal with transparencyis the presidenight on that. drug costs, which are actually coarng down. therthings that are working, but we need bipartisan support at a time when th democrats want to take over all of health care and eliminate insurance from 160 million

americans. >> senator, i will leave it thade. i wish we more time on this. i have a feeling we will be debating health care as we have done for last ten years. my guess is ten more. nianks so much. j me now from the other side of the aisle is the sna senate democratic whip, dick durbin. i want bo ask first mueller and this tuesday deadline. mr. barr has already said he's not going to meet the tuesday deadline. what are the consequences? do you have consequences planned? >> we have a new speciesf political dinosaurs. it is called the ba -redactal. mrbarr believes he can redact the report from bob mueller. i thinkt is long overdue for

him to apply to court and then to produce this report in its entirety for the congress. there is ample precedent when it came to clinton investigations in the past fo hillary and for bill clinton. there were massive reports o turnr to congress. that should be the case here as well. >> you know, before mueller came out, you hadeen sort of preaching some sort of calmness. you had said things like, park yourself on the sidlines un mueller's work is completed. all right. mueller's work is completed. i know you are waiting to see what's in it. but you saw the polling. you know tha this is -- while this is an obsession among the bases of both rties, the vast -- there is a vast chunk of america that has tuned this odt doesn't want this focus. you heard senator barrassoay wishes their said could move on, do you think it's time for your side to move on? >> well, i think there should be a completesu disc of the mueller report. i was standing in the subway in

chicago on friday, and a lady came up to me named d e debora she said we paid for that inquiry. why can't we see that report. i think she speaks for most of america. think it is important we see what bob mueller produced. salary yates has an column. she said remember, the heart of this was the russian interference in our electiowe ught to see the full mueller report that gets into the counter intellence base. so it does have an pli capplica what we do moving forward. >> we said on the judiciary committee, the chairman theric repu from south carolina, lindsey graham has indicated he wants too some investigating of the investigators. how did this get started. he wants to talk about comey. are you with him on this? do you think that's an investigation that's necessary? >> i don't want to return to travel gate, benghazi, the

clinton e-mails. you know, i thinkan weove forward from here. we ought to focus on the counter intelligence aspects of this an th security of the 2020 election. that's the one thing both parties ought to agr. no one should interfere with the opportunity and the obligation the american people to choose their next rank of leadership. >> given the fact that senor aham admitted he was involved in the process or t least knew process of how the dossier got to james comey from senator mccain and he read it before it actually got toco y, does he have to recuse himself from this investigation on your committee or not? y >> do think lindsay graham could recuse himself from any investigation? i can't imagine it. and i'll tell you, i hope we don't dwell on is. as i said, it is yesterday's newspaper with mueller's reportu let' it to rest one way or the other. >> yeah. >> if there is action needed congress to keep our political system intact, let's move forward. >> iant to move to a few issues. but i want to start first with

immigration. ote front page of the new york times this morning that, look, whatever you want to call it, wherever you want to put the blame, we have a problem at the .ord dhs is doing everything possible to respond to a growing human tear catastrophe while also securing our borders. i'm well dware youn't like the president's plans on immigration, the wall, all of these things. the fact is we do know there is a massive migration crisis right now. does congress have the responsibility to give secretary nielson more tools to deal with this lytempora >> let me tell you the first thing we ought to do in this administration, ich was the author of the zero tolerance policy removing over 2,8 toddlers, infants and children from their parents with no tracing of where they wereeing sent so they could be returned. the first thing we need to do it

to m the humanitarian needs at the border. instead of building fences two three years in the future by taking money from the department of defense, focus on facilities toe serve thmilies so there aren't children that are hurt and dying as a result of this situation. then take a look at the big picture. when the president says he's going to close the border, that is a total unrealistic boost on his part. we need tos focus on wha happening in central america where three countries are dissembling before our eyes and people are desperately coming to the united states. the president cutting off aid to these countries will not solbl this p. >> let me move quickly to health care and it is this question. the democratic presidential candidates are allaking about remaking obamacare, some of them radically, some of tm on the edges. the republican party is obviously in a different you're trying to defend obamacare while the rest of your party wants to change it.

should the presidential candidateson be more focus esed defending obamacare than changing it? >> i voted for it. i think it is one of my most important votes. it cut the number of uninsured americans in illinois in half. back to my friend john and he is a friend, 25,000 people in the state of wyoming have health re because of obamacare. 95% of them get a subsidy for the premium payment. there are ways to improve it. th affordable care act was not brought down a mountainside by moses on clay te lets. there ys to improve it. when it comes to prescription pricing, i disagree. most americans believe the prices are through t roof. we should be addressing that as one of the first changes toake the affordable care act more effective. >> quickly on 2020, joe biden there is an allegation that is basically two -- made some women feel uncomfortable by some ways

that he acted around them. he has put out aet more com statement saying he still doesn't remember the incident, but that he will pay more -- that men in general need to pay more attention how they interact with women. are you concerned that joe biden can handle the onslaught of 2020? do you think he shouldrun? >> well, i can tell you that joe biden is a friend and a seasoned veteran when it comes to political campaigns. i know nothing about the allegations that i also read this morning as well. i think all of us should take allegations seriously and with respect. i took joe biden's statement say just that exactly. so, yes, i think he's ready if that's his decision tomove forward in this presidential campaign. we have a spirited field of 15 or 16 -- >> so this isn't fydisquag? >> certainly one allegation is not disqualifying.

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here was the president at his first campaign rally post barr/mueller report. >> there are a lot of people out there that have done some very, very ev b minutes, things, i would say thereasonous things. we'll look at that. the a report wasainst those who lofrt the election to try and regain power. sick, sick, these are sick people. >> peggy, maybe i'm stuck in a me warp that thinks, boy, you have a political opportunity, take it. he could have gone down one path, one ist path. the uma thurman "kill bill", pa trying to take revenge, or he could have cornered the democratic party and said, all t'ght, i'm ready for infrastructure, go. he went down the revenge path. >> yeah. mebody said when itas announced that the trump white house was t going now push on health care once again after

having been unsuccess the first time, reporter sai to a white house official, why are you doing health care? the white house official said, "too much good news, have to change the subject." there was an element of that. it would have been wonderful to see the president -- there's something a little surprising. e was angry when the good news came in. didn't you get the impression that he was feeling anger -- >>e loves the grievance, yeah. >> relief and generosity would historyn nice, a little of how we got there, then put it away. then as you say and as i go forward on infrastructure. he's the builder. america wants to build. democratso are it, reps are for it, go, go, go. >> there was consternation in the west wing about the plan. let me take y back to six days ago. not just the barr summary came out but the chief nemesis, michael avenatti, got arrested. his best p at the white house

getting wine, riding a high, and then that changed because of a lawsuit. i'm told there was concern on the part of the vice president pents, not a disagreement on the policy but a disagreement on exactly this -- the ctics. where do you go from here? because they couldt see t people like senator barrasso are going to get hammered by people asking questions like where is the plan, do you have a plan. there was also questions from the lawyers on the legal viability of this .argume and the president, i don't think it's that surprising that he went full revenge mo. was mad for two years about this. so this was like a employment for him to, right, grind the grievance axe. s when he wonders why he sitting at 43 to 46%, i'm just i would say exhibit a. >> this is true. but he wasng genuinely reap. you have to think of it a little from side. he fires comey because he refused to say publicly what he ld trump under under.

then as soon as he fires him, serious people say he's committing acts of treason. i do think the process went off the rails. we let garbage op-o gathered by an ex-foreign spyca the sed dossier, destroy our politics for two solid years. >> should lindsey grahame the guy investigating this considering the weird relationship he had with the dossieritself? >> lindsey switched around on a lot of stuff. look, i would say -- i know this isn't going to happen, but i feel as though this should be like after the conclusion of the starr report where all fair-minded people on both sides say let's neverdohis this way again. >> you want to take that this? >> go for >>it. ecause i don't know where to start. this stinks. this is why it stinks -- can you margin for one moment if democrats had taken the starr memo and, you know, this exonerates the president, nothing to see here. wt gingrich's head would have exploded. this is part of the problem with

what americans think is wrong with washington, there's no transparency. if in fact he's innocent, and by the way barr didn't say exonerated completely, if he's innocent, let us see it. you know, the number that's striking from the "wall street journal" poll to me is 19. only 19% of independents think this clears t president. operative myself, when you're giving your polling data to the russians as a pollster, it's kind of hard. you say they're not concludit . >> i w put up this number here. this is paying a lot of ntention to news coverage various -- we do this all the this upour poll, put look where the mueller report sits compared to other major events over the last couple of years.th orlando shooting at the pulse nightclub. the spread of ebola, "access hollywood" tape, people who watched a lot of news coverage on the mueller report, sitting a 39, peggy. it is one of these things where --nderstandably why all of us are into it. >> yeah. >> it's an imptant investigation. the middle of the country, i think, that's who this is. >> the middle of the country and

america in 2019 has bn used for decades to watching washington do its thing and have its partisan investigatns. and they do filter it i think to a good degree. i'm re they're happy to have an answer now. i have a feeling the president's foes are never going to let the ole mueller thing, the investigation, go. i think the mueller report once it is de public to the degree it is made public and then we'll all argue aboutat is going to be seen less as a definitive too explicit starr report and more like, oh, we can do warre report on this for the next few years and pull every thread we see. >> what aree going to be debating more in the next six months, though? obamacare? full release in the mueller report? i don't think we'll be debating what's in the mueller report for a while. i think we'll be debating the full release. what matters more? >> it's definitelycahe health

law. i think when you look at the numbers and look at what people are interested in, and when you lo at what people a talking about on the 2020 campaign trail, specifically democrats, they are not talking about russia and the mueller report. that said, the president and there are those around himwho see this as -- essentially apo tical cujole. bill barr said in mid-april i'm told by folks in the white house their stance is we're okay with that, and we're going to blastat the demo for demanding it by tuesday. >> there couerintuitively could be wihy this hurts the president. russia was always a blind ally for the democrats. it wasn't that he was a russian to or -- it's what nancy pelosi caying to do, he's a conventional repubmask rating as a -- masquerading as having power policies. >> i'm going to pause it. that's a dangerous plue.for frimp to next, can a treme

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how janssen can help, visit xarelto.com. welcome back. in a democratic party moving to e left, at least rhetorically it could be hard to accuse john like loope hickenlooper of pandering. the former governor is opposed to medicare for all. he's a moderate on migration an considers himself a fiscal conservative, unlike some of his better-known 2020 opponents. hickenlooper is a proven vote getter having been elected governor of colorado twice and mayor of denver twice. presidential candidate john hickenlooper joins me from denver. welcome back to "mesi the press, >> good morning. >> let me start -- i want to dive into it. people want to assesstoour abilite president.

we've got a front-page story in the nomine"the new york times" sure you've seen about the crisis did at the border. we have a debate on animmigrati. i'm not asking for the larger decision on. that i'm asking what would you do now? a huge influx now. they're gaming the system differently. we don't have the facilities to deal with these type of asyl seekers. what would you do right now >> well, certainly i wouldn't have gotten us into the situation we find ourselves at the bord now. and i would not have ripped away hundreds and hundreds, thousands of kid away from their mothers, and then shipped them off toti ad families. i mean, it's a form of kidnapping. i ink the key was to keep out in front of this issue and make sure we had the facilities so know,we could provide, you humane processing of people that were in many cases fearing tlier s were at risk and fleeing perhaps certain death to try ano to america. this country's been built on

immigration. we should respec and have a process that's fair for everyone. >> what does -- what does a -- what do our borders look like in a hickenlooper administration? how tight, how secure, how porous, how would you describe it? >> i think you need borders. but you have to recognize that we are a one built on immigration. right now we have more job openings than we have people looking for work. we have to re-evaluate the he system, wh we need help bringing in crops at the border line. last fall we were leaving fruits and vegetables in the fields ane unharv whether we need more electrical engineers to keep our tech industry at the front of the global coverageetition. i mean -- competition. i mean, thatto gote incorporated into a comprehensive treatment of immigration and making sure that in the process that we saw the -- the complexities at the rder. >> what is an extreme moderate, right, a radical moderate? there's different versions.

i heard you off the record say versions of this, as well. define it for voters. how do you want thatwh defined we hear the phrase that you're an extreme moderate? >> i don't like any of the labels. you know, i've tried to do both when i was in small buheness but alsoi was a mayor, when i was a governor, i've tried to address bringing people together andng things done. and i really do believe we're in a crisis o no division. that encompasses health care and the environment and -- and the economy. and what i've done again and again is been able to bring pele together and get stuff done. we got to almost universal coverage in health care inlo do. we expanded medicaid, we created one of the most innovative exchanges in the country. we got the environmental communities to sit down with the oil and gindustry, and -- and actually create the first methane regulations in the country, that the oil and gas industry paid $16 million to implement. the equivalent o taking 320,000 automobiles off the roads. i think of all the candidates so far i think i'm the person that

has the most continuous example, the most, you know, continuous record of actually getting peopin together and bri them together, put down your weapons, and get things done. >> you know, governor, what somebody -- somebody on the left would say, you know, you're going to sit down with the oil and dus ry. that's the problem. you're going to let them write the legislation. there's been too much accommodation over the years. not just on that issue. but that is the argument coming from the new progressive left. how do you deal with that a a candidate? >> well, i hold out the record of actual accomplishment. everyone else is -- is pointing fingers and blaming each othd . u know, when we got that methane regulation put in place, that system of regulations, not only has it helped colorado, t's being rolled out as national policy across canada. it's -- it should be global policy. if we're gading to ess, if we're serious about addressing the challenges of climate change and the environment, it's not ddress itt just to here in this country.

we've got to do it globally to have the impact th we have to have. i mean, this is a place where we don't have the luxury of continuing thi washington-sometime battle of blaming the -- washington-style battle of blaming the other side. >> o the battles is on the issue of abortion. i'm curious when it comes to the ea of trying to basically break impasses, which i i thi essentially what you're saying, you're going to try and break an impasse. wea lot of states, georgia's the latest, that are passing fetal heartbeat bills. essentially trying to prevent abortions, making him illegal the minute you can hear a heartbeat. what is yourreaction? do you believe they're unconstitutional or not, and what is the line on abortion for you? >> i think those laws are unconstitutional. and i think from my point of view, i -- i recognize the difficulty of the question, and i empathize with people on both sides. i've always come down on the side of a woman's right to take care o her own health care.

>> is there any limit? is there any limit that you believe there should what is it? >> wait, wait, wait. one of the things we did in e colorado over course of five years, we got some foundation money. but we provided long-acting, reversible contraception, n norplants and iud to women. that process over the years we have reduced teenage pregnancy and abortion by over 60%. i mean, that's some of the -- that's the kind of accomplishment and achievement we should be loing at. again, you've got to have the debate, and i respect that. but i think a woman has to ultimately have the right to, you know, make decisions about her own health. >> any -- and what is e government's r all? is it -- should government just line?that is there a line the government should draw? >> i think thatup theme court has already drawn that line, and that in this country, women are allowed the final decion of those issues that most directly affect their

health care. >> let me ask you a final issue that has popped up this morning, that is theon accusagainst vice president biden. he has -- says he doesn't remember it. he also says thate wants to rethink how men in general have interacted wit awomen. first , is it a disqualifying from what you have read and seen about this,li do u e it's disqualifying? and second, what is -- what should past -- what past behavior should be accountable these days and wh shouldn't? >> i think the more important issue to recognize is at we e at an inflection point, a moment of transformation of e entire country where women, in many cases for the first time, are having the courage to come forward and speak about things that happened to them them intensely uncomfortable. in many cases, theyeel they'v been damaged unfairly. i think our first responsibility is to make sure that we allow women t -- to recogniir

bravery and listen and believe them. we have to make sure that that's rs f issue. >> and what about is this disqualiing for vice president biden? >> again, i don't know aside from this issue, even this issue, i don't know all the details. it's why we have an election, that's the process. certainly it's isconcerting. i think that, again, women have to be weheard, and should start by believing them. >> governor john hicnlooper, democrat from colorado, i'm going to have to leave it there. thanks for sharing your views. i imagine we'll catch up again, sir. >> thanks, chuck. next, democrats arewi desperate to back the white house. house. what do democtic members think ♪ when i first came to ocean bay, what i saw was despair.

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2020 candidates so far? our new poll offers a few clues. there's one candidate we're pretty confidentth will be on ballot come november, 2020, o at's president trump. republicans look all in on the president with 79% saying they are either enthusiastic o comfortable supporting him. democrats as you might expect are at the other end of the spectrum. but only 34% of independents call thes comfortable with trump right now. that's not a strong number for the president to be starting with right out of the gate. and perhaps most telling, a full 50% of all respondents call themselves very uncomfortable supporting the president's re-e, ction. remembat we just tested with president trump and what we're testing with five democrats thison, and we'll test more in the months to come is basically the floor and ceiling of potential support. this is not a horse race poll on purpose. anyway. among self-described democrats, the person with the most enthusiasm and comfort was biden followed by sanders, warren, harris, and o'rourke. biden had the most saying they

were enthusiastic or comfortable at 70%. now with independents, the candidat order essentially held with lower levels of support, of course. overall, however, biden and sanders seemed to have an advantage with independents, both with close to 50% saying they'd be comfortable or enthusiastic supporting him or olem. republicans alsowed the same pattern with much lower numbers. biden stands out from there cro ith 21% saying they'd be comfortable supporting him. that could suggest he has crossover appeal if he runs and wins the nomination. name recognition is obviously crucial when running for president. it could explain the strongeror showings biden and sanders right now. we should note that sanders starts with the highest negatives among democrats. sanders and o'rourke received the highest for don't know theme we're not sure in the poll. that means they have a better shot at defining themselves on d their own terming the campaign unless someone does it for them. that may be the case for much oe thcratic field. not a bad place to be in the

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back now with "end game." and a story that actuallys contin develop this morning. the accusation against former vice president biden. he has put out a new statement. let me read the whole thing in part and dive into. the original context had towido a democratic candidate for lieutenant governor in 2014 talking abou essentially vice president biden invading her personal space in an extraordinarily uncomfortable way. the second statement -- "in my many years on the campaign trail and in public life i have offered countless handshakes, hugs, expressions of affection, support, and comfort. not one did i believe i acted inappropately. if it suggested i did so, i will listen respectfully. it was never my tention. may not recall the moments the same way, and i may be surprised at what i hear. ht e arrived at an

important time when women feel they can and should relateto their experiences and men should pay attention, and i will." cornell belcher, lucy flores, doing an -- did an interviewni this m on cnn, called this statement better than the first. >> it's -- it's a very good statement. it's also not what you want to start off your campaign having an -- a conversation about. i think that they want to start the campaign having a conversation about -- about leadership. and vision for the future. this is not -- this is also what happened when you're the front-runner. and you die by -- by a million r pacu cuts. i think given his time and history, they want to focus on -- on hisnd competence beating trump. they don't want to be talking about this this morning. >> you know, let me put up the headlines that you referred to here. "politico" has a great one that he's getting a quick 2020 -- blind sided by a dose of 2020 reality. obviously this allegation, there

was al anita hill's come up this week. his back and forth on roe v. wade. joe biden's greatest strength is the fact that he's been in the political mainream for 40 years. his greatest weakness is that he's been in the politicalor mainstream0 years. >> there's a reason god gave us the handshake. it'sct resl, always appropriate. >> gender neutral. >> yeah. the crux of the statement, i don't think this was sexual or malicious, but it was way over-familiar. and it would immediatel in a workplace get reported to h.r. to say stop doing that. s going to blem h have is, as you said, all this record and how he deals with it. and i think if he apologizes too seemihe's going to risk insincere and weak. and in theory, i think he's a formidable general election candidate. neither e her party will say i want to own the old-guy establishment lane in one of tho political parties. >> we're talking, and i think ou rightfully so the political piece. there is such a big cultural

element, too.we re now post-me too, october, 2017, than long more bradley speaking in the big picture level, candidates have to grapple with what itha meanso had white male privilege for many years. you're seeing that in this public way, voters are demding it, the women candidates running are in some ways demanding some accountability for that, too. this goes beyond the realm of litics. it's much bigger than that. >> i think it has to do with the fact in part that joe biden is a longtime american political figure who came from the fleshy world of '60s a '70s politics. d when everybody started to hug and kiss, different from the '40s and '50s. we're hugging, kissing, all that stuff is going on. that's part of his story right now. another thing is i think for the first time in his life, joe biden is seeing himself the target of his own party's op-o. he's got operatives for other

candates going after him in a way that will have to be startli startling. >> can he survive this? >> yes. he can. >> how? how does he survive it? >> he pivots to the issues. - and what i think it was a very good statement. he acknowledges it and --kn you , absolutely right. the culture has gone through changes, a problem for a lot of our older candidates who to your point came up in a culture that was veen diff i think he can survive. this is why he survives it, comfort. the number that popped out in the nbc poll is comfort. democrats are very, very comfortable with joe biden. however, i don't think that sets people on fire. >> yeah. >> the good news what you're going to get. the bad news is you know what you're going to get. all right, guys. that's all we have for today. what a show. thank you for watching. we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press."

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