this sunday, the trump pelosi feud. after speaker nancyi pelos takes on president trump -- >> we believe the president of e united states is engaged in a coverup. >> the president walks out of a meeting with democratic leaders. >> i walk into look at people that had just said that i was doing a coverup. i don't do coverups. >> then promises no legislating as long as democrats are investigating. and turns on pelosi. >> crazy nancy. she's not the same person. she's lost it. >> what are the chances of getting anything done now? plus, the democrats' impeachment debate. while a number say theime is now -- >> i believe we have no other choice. >> speaker pelosi says, investigations must come first. >>it may take us to a place that is unavoidable in terms of impeachment or not. but we're not at that place yet.

>> my guests this morning, sarah sanders and two democrats opposite sides of the impeachment debate, akeem jeffreys and rasheeda talib. >> i declassified everything, everything they want. >> the growing concern over poe lit si politicimeng. joining re doris kerns go goodwin, pat mccrory and david maraniss. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> this is" "meet the press with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. you are enjoying your memorial day weekend. democrats are facing a dilemma.

growin activists base is asking, what are we waiting for? democratic leaders warn impeachment could be a fool'ser errand. in 2002, many chose to authorize an act they didn't believe in because the leaders thought it was good politics in the fall of an election y with a democratic senate that was in control by the democrats but sitting on the edge. it wasn't until it wasn't when the war went badly and democratic voters turned sour on those iraq war supporters. today's democrats sice a similar tuation. do they ramp up impeachment. president trump wants th remembering 73% for clton. do they fight him trading insult for insult? hillary clinton called his

supporters a basket of deplorables. how did that work out? the president won't conduct the nation's businesses. democrats won the house by promising to fix health care and what happened to that? e path ahead is not at all clear for democrats. impeaching, fighting or ignoring, all have their political down sides. it's a party divided with a base growing impatient forpe imhment and a more cautious leadership saying, not yet. >> the only way we will beat him is to impeach him. how about that? >> president trump can't stop talking about impeachment. >> whether they carry the big i wo word out, i can't imagine that. the i rdrd. the i wo can you imagine? i don't speak to russians about campaigns. >> nancy pielosi told colleague she thinks mr. tmp wants to be impeached, even as he denies it. >> i think what really got to him was the court cases and the

fact that a hrase democtic caucus is not on path to impeachment. that's where he wants us to be. >> pelosi under pressu from a vocal minority of her ownmb mes to begin impeachment hearings now is trying to focus on the preside conduct instead. >> this president is obstructing justice and he is engaged in a coverup. and that could be an impeachment offense. >> she's trying acate more progressive members who say it's pastime toollow through with impeachment. >> this is no longer about politics. this is about upholding the rule of law. >> i believe we have no other choice. >> impeachment is a very our sive place to go in country. unless we can get the facts to the american people through an investigation, it may take us to a place that is unavoidable in terms of impeachment or not. but we're not at that place. >> in recent polling, a majority of americans oppose impeachment hearings. >> if we were to call -- to hold

aninquiry, how would they differ? >>he president is raising questions about the fbi and cia's role in the russia probe, using treason andirdering b barr to declassify intelligence that led to the investigation. >> who specifically are you accusing of treason? >> i thinkmb a nu of people. look at comey. if you look at mccabe. if you look at probably people higher than that. >> on wedneenay, the pres walked out of an infrastructure meeting with democrats saying there will be no legislating as long as the democrats are investigating. for the president and for house speaker pelosi, a clash may be politically convenient. trump is trying to ensure democrats share blame for government dysfunction. >> is there anything you are willing to work on now with democrats? >> no no. they haveo to down their

track. let them get rid of the nonsense first. >> pielosi focuses on the thing uniting them. >> i wish the family or administration or staff would have an intervention for the good of the country. >> joining me is the chair of the house democratic caucus, congressman jeffreys. good morning. >> i want to start with what republican ongressman justin amash laid out for his conclusions in that tweet storm last week. he said president trump engaged in impeachable conduct and he believed bill barr deliberately mueller ented the report. do you agree with congressman amash's two conclusions? >> i certainly thinkthere's reason to believe that there was obstruction of the mueller report laid out ten instances we need to look into separately as part of our investigation as to what may have taken place. it appears to be the case that

the so-called attorney jgeneral intentionally misrepresents the conclusions of the mueller report as part of an effort to fool the american people. we won't let that stand f eithe >> ithat's the case, then why aren't you ready to start impeachment hearings? you are referring to an attorney general as a so-called. he is the confirmed attorney general. i think he had a democrat or two vote for him iaki'm not mist. if this is the case, then why aren't you starting impeachment no >> democrats can sing and dance at the same time just like beyonce. have to keep our focus primarily on our for the people agenda, which we have been working on, loweringre health ca costs, strengthen the affordable care act, protecting people with pre-existing conditions, driving down the high cost of prescription drugs. these are areas where we passed legislation this month. we recognize in the new majority that the house is a separate and co-equal branch of government. we f don't work donald trump. we work for the american people.

we have a constitutional responsibility to serve as a check and balance on a potentially out of control executive branch. we will not overreach. we will not overve.at invest we will proceed methodically yet aggressively to get to the truth. >> is it possible you are making a political calculation about impeachment? and then that -- i opened my monologue about the iraq war debate. many were convicted to make a decision in the fall of '02 that they would regret. what seemed likeood politics in the moment, in this case not impeaching seems like the right politics of the moment, how do you know that and how do you know that isn't bad politics five years from now? >> the only way to proceed is make sure politics don't dictate a decision to impeach or a decision not to impeach. we need to follow the facts.

we need to apply the law. we need to make sure the constitution is the guiding principal in terms of the way forward. the judiciary committee has indicated through our chairman jerry nadler that we will conduct hearings on obstruction of justice, we will conduct hearings on abuse ofwi power, w con dukts heduct hearings on ce of corruption that appears to exist at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. we are in fact gathering mode. we will continue to work on issues of importanceam to the ican people. that's what we promised that we would work on should we win the majority. now that we're in the majority, we have to work to make life better foreevday americans. that's what we're going to continue to do. >> you talked about the investigations, abuse of power, his financial records. oudo understand why maybe the country just looks like democrats are throwing subpoenas up against the wall to see wh sticks? why is there not a focus on the

muellerreport? >> you have a variety of different committees of jurisdiction who have important work to do. th respect to the mueller report, we have indicated that we want to see the full and complete un-redacted mueller report. we't trust the attorney general's redactions to be presumptively legitimate. we want to see the underlying documentation. of course, we would like to hear from bob mueller who needs to n ll his story to the ameri people. besides that, we do have important things to work on, like infrastructure. the president didn't just wt k ou a meeting with nancy pelosi and infrastructure. he walked out on the american people. donald trump is functionally a studio gangster. he pretends o be augh guy. but he really is just playing that role on tv. hopefully, he will have gotten his temper tantrum out of the system. he can come back from japan. we have crumbling bridges, roads, tunnels, airports, mass transportation. we need to get to work to fix

it. we have a an. we would like do it in a bipartisany. wa >> is there a point where impeachment becomes -- it becomes unfeasible because of the political calendar? >> we are at the very beginning of our new majority, as you know. this is the start of the clock. we just crossed into the 100 day point of the houma democratic rity last month. so i think we have to proceed methodically. we have to gather the information. then at a certain point, we have to make a determination how best to present that to the american people. >> is there a timetable? is there a realistic timetab? is it the summer? do you have to -- if by labor day you are still equivocating, then you are probab not impeaching? >> i think that's a timetable that will be guided by the facts. i don't think it will be guided any political calendar. the presidential candidates are out on the campaign trail. they should make their case to the american people. we want to promote prosperity in every single zip code.

hopefully, they will continue to do that. have to do our work in the majority to govern, to pass bills, to send them over to the senate as we have been doing. to try and get legislation to the president's desk to be signed into law. >> ishere a point here in all of this where you are just arguing over is a msemantics? nadler said, what you are doing no if you called it an impeachment hearing, it would be the same thing? what should we take about that? you have opened an impeachment called that? >> there are troubling facts out of the mueller report. we hte to conducur own investigation separately because that's our responsibilany. we cnot take what mueller has done, because we don't have all of the underlying information. >> congressman, member of leadership, head of the democratic caucus, thanks for sharing apur views.

i eciate it. >> thank you, chuck. joining me now is democratic congresswoman rasheeda talib of pchigan. welcome to "meet tss." >> thank you. >> you are one of the louder voices when it comes to impeachment. i'm curious of your reaction to congreman jefferies. do you believe leadership is being methodical or do you believe adat leship is trying to buy number time where they say, we're too close to the presidential election in order to takit off the table quietly? >> i can tell you as one of the newest members of congress, the traditional congressional oversight process isn't working. from subpoenas and trying to figure out what's going on with children caged atted bore ethe from my colleagues on the other side of the siaisle when we are asking for big pharma to testify about high cost of insulin and they are telling them, you don't have to come before the

committee, a lot of the corruption that you see through the oval office is seeping into the halls of congress. i can tell from you day one, this preside has misled congress, has undermined his own cabinet members and has lied to the american people. i have to tell you, this is a remarkable time in our country. if you saw the largest class -- incoming class before our class was the watergate class. at that time, even though many people say that we didn't campaign on this, look at the fact that the majority -- the temajority of sta across this country saw a huge historic turnout of people coming out to vote for the firsttime. i feel like in many ways, that's a referendum to stand up to a bully, to a president that subverts t united states constitution every single day. >> i want to play for you a quote from an interview earlier this week from an oo democratic activist who is a bit frustrated with all of the subpoenas on c itol hill. take a listen. i want your reaction on the

other side. >> they don't give a rat's you know what about his they don't really care. i'm not saying that congress should not chew gum and walk at the same time. but the volume on issues, kitchen table issues, needs to be louder. because i want to win this election. i don't want to lose. >> you hear, look, i have no doubt -- congressman jefferies ran down, i know you have passed other legistion and you do other stuff other than talking about the president's personal conduct. his point was, it's the volume of conversation. it's the loud voice. he believes, win the election in 2020 and stop worrying about his tax returns. what do you say about that? >> look, this is not about the 2020 election. it's about doing what'ght now for our country. this is going to be a president that we -- when we don't hold this president accountable to the united states constitution, just loo at the fact that

currently, over a number of abuses of power, but the public's trust ist stake. we can't sit back and think that we can just pass health care reform and all of theseh issue whice critically important, but at the same time you have an administration not providing information, not following througon subpoenas. it goes hand in hand. we need to stop separating the fact that we're trying to change people's lives for the better, but we have an administration that continues to violate the united states constitution. did you know, chuck -- he has henot complied with t united states constitution when he took the oath of office by divesting in his businesses? we have an upgraded y rsion of pa play. when i'm at the -- on the ground in my district fighting against the t-mobile and sprint merger, t-mobile is spending $195,000 at the trump hotel in d.c. an upgraded version of pay to play to get access to t most powerful corridor to power, the president's office. so for me to fight back again big pharma,f for many

colleagues to pass reforms that are needed, we can't do it when the president of the united states continues to lie to the to ican people, continues not follow through on subpoenas and give us the information that we need. >> why do you think you can't convince a majority of house democrats at it's time to impeach him? >> i think it's moving towards that. it's going to demand it. it already is. this is a time in our country that we can't look -- think about what just happened. the first time historically di we exercise our war power and said no more arm deals, no more interaction in helping the yemeni crisis through our relationship with saudi arabia. he turned around and pretty much ignored the congress' decision, a bipartisan decision.nd understagain it goes hand if hand. i think the american people understand that we can't do our job if the president thveks he is abohe law.

i gotta tell you from the wall to the children at the border to immigration reform, we can't be able to do our job if we don't hold him countable. justin amash became the first republican essentially to call or at least believe that it's timeve to h an inqui inquiry. you invited him to meet with you and sign your resolution on that. did you meet with him? have you spoken with him? >> i haven't. i have to tell you i worked with himn the michigan legislature to for a term. he believes theon citution is brilliant. he is about putting country first. i have known that about him. he is one of tpp few that suted subpoenas towards the trump administration about at least understanding whoing on at the border with children separated from their family. he is one of the more courageous people that does believe in the institution and believes in the rule of law. i respect that very much and

continue to upliftis h courage and for him to, again, put country before politics. >> i will leave it there. f thanks coming on and sharing your views. >> thank you. when we come back, the pe ls of trying to impeach president trump and the dangers in not trying. as we go to break, as we do every memorial day ekend, we american member the service members who died in the line of duty since last memorial day. ♪ sir, you're a broker. what do you chargeador online equity tr? uh, i'll look into it. (phone rin) lisa jones! lisa: (on phone) hey carl, what are you charging me for online equity trades?

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panelists here, pat mccrory, dos kerns goodwin and david maraniss. he is author of a new book. nice to see you. let's start with this sound with nancyos pelwe have gone over a two-month period where she's going from defiantly to aremore open to it. >> they wanted me to impeach president bush. i didn't believe i itthen. i don't believe in it now. it divides the cntry. it's demonstrating odaily basis his obstruction. this president is obstrucjung ice and he is engaged in a coverup. and thatmp could be an ieachment offense. >> is she gettg closer to

impeachment or trying to keep others happy? >> if you speak to the pill to pelosi camp, she's saying we need to be in fact finding. they are in the middle of gathering information. the freshman class has more power. if you listened to her, why can't you convince the majority to go with you, she said -- she sound ko sounded confident when she said we're moving in that direction. we're hearing her language changed. i talked to someone at the white house who said, when the president heard nancype si talk about a coverup, he started thinking about president nixon and the idea what gave -- what took down nixon was the coverup. that source told me, she knows what she's ing. i think most people, including people in the white house, see that not just as a ship of

rhetoric but her moving closer to impeachment. >> david, you forced yourself to get out of washington. you go back to the lovely country of wisconsin. what do they say? what is the conversation there when it comes to trump and impeachment? >> i think it's not that different from washington honestly. i think that there are a lot of activists who very much are pushing in that direction. the majority of people are not thinking about it. we define washington as just the political class. it there's a lot more t here than that. i think that what's happening is hat nancy pelosi -- there's a fine line between not acting out of fear and acting out of political smarts. enever you act just out of fear or not act out of fear, then it's a mistake. but she's trying to be mrit bei politically smart. >> does the president want to be impeached?

that's been a question. does he want it or is he just creating the wedge? >> it's helpful if this continues. i don't think it's good for the country. >> you think it's good for the republ'tans. >> i donhink it's good for the country. it's not good for the presidency. speaker pelosi can no longer be called the adult in the room. she's pressured like he predecessor was in the republican party, speaker ryan, by a caucus that has gerrymandered districts. their fear is from the left and future primaries not in a general election. the same die namdynamics occur. right here in washington, d.c., she's ting to appease them, trying to herd them into a coalition. today, look at the names called. studio gangster, dictator, misled congress, pay to play, obstruction of justice,

so-called attorney general. this is not goodr for ou country. >> i want toin read someth michelle goldberg wrote. were trump to be re-elected after such a reckoning, basically surviving a trial after impeachment, he might be further unleashed. it would leave democrats humiliated by their excessive caution. >> i think that the real challenge right now for the democrats, whether they doat investigns or whether they move toward an inqui enquiry, they have to presa story to the american people that they understand what behavior is and how it reflects upon the constitution. one of the things lincoln said is that with public sentiment, nothing can fail. without it, nothing can succeed. what we don't have yet -- we have a scatter shot, what you were talking about, of things against mr. trump. nl unless we understand the origins, not just that he is asking for, what is mueller

gog to say, why were these people indicted, why were people so sensitive about russia, where is begin, middle and end? people understand a story. they are not going to understand scatter shot. public an create sentiment, you move the country along. >> who should do that? thats in charge of leading conversation? >> not just the congress. it's the candidates on the campaign -- >> you think they should talk about it? >> it's not just a question of i'm for or against impeachment. they have to argue. we nd mueller there. we need the story to be told from mueller, not from barr. until the amer understand -- this is what fdr did so great. he explained complicated issues so you uemerstood th it's up to the political class right now if they're going to go forward with impeachment or if they're not, to be able to understand what has happened, the is the beginning, middle and end of the story? >> it's easier for one person to tell the story. >> the i internet -- agree. that's what leadership is. that's the most important part

of levadership. wh it cop comes from. >> i don't disagree with you on mueller, needing to sospeak. i alsay, we almost need a church commission as many republicans think on really reviewing what are the guidelines now for investigat n investigations? i have been a governor whose administration has been investigated before. it literally makes you temperamental. it brings down the staff. it dilutes work you can do on the side. you are nervous -- if you feel like everything you have done is right and not wrong. we have to make sure that we revi what guidelines are used, especially if we investigate candidates in the orfuture. >> d is talking about a narrative. why you see jeffries is they are furious because barr set a narrative for the president. the president is happy with barr and the people i talked to on th trump campaign and the white house feel as though they have a

narrative. demo election.ad about the they will harass me. now they want e impeach me. publicans have lined up their narrative. democrat sas youee them now fighting over this ise of impeachment, they have to decide whether they have a narrative as we. >> it goes back to the person best to make the case is speaker pelosi. >> she's beginning to. she's in charge right now. she needs to make the narrative. no one has made it on the democratic side. you are right, the attorney general lahas made the narratwo. they have the messaging. >> she may simply by buying time in order to say it's -- wait for 2020. we will see. when we come back, sarah sanders joins us from tokyo where president trump is on a state visit. we will ask her whether president trump trusts his own cia. the names of more american service members who made the

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welcome back. this week, president trump made good on his promise to investigate hisinvestigators. mr. trump gave attorney general william barr the authority to unilaterally declassify documents from the cia and other

intelligence agencies. the president and barr have said the trump campaign was spied on. in the latest move, it raises concerns in the intel community about politicizing intelligence. joining me now from tokyo where president trump is on a state visit is white house press secretary sarah sanders. welcome to "meet the press." >>hank you. it's great to be with you. >> before i begin with some of the domestic political back and, fort want to start with something that's on the minds i think of a lot of japanese and that's the ballistic missile st of the northkoreans. does the president agree with the prime minister of japan and adviser nal security that north korea has violated a u.n. resolution with these sts? >> look, the president's focus in all of this process is on continuinghe very good relationship that he has with chairman kim. and he feels good that the chairman will stay firm with the commitment that he made to tes prent and move towards

denuclearization. that's our focus. that's going to continue to be our focus. that's the activity taken place as you can see from the president's twitter isn't something that's bothering the president. he still fee good abouthe relationship that he has and about chairman kim's commitment that he made to the president. >> the president has no qualms about not nforcing a u.n. resolution? if you don't enforce it, what's the point of >> once again, the president's focus in this process is on continuing to move towards totae clearization of the peninsula. we know that the activities at no point that took place over the last several weeks have been a threat to the united statesr our allies. we're going to continue pushing forward to the ultimate goal and that's denuclearization of the peninsula. the president still feels comfortable and confident in the relationship that he has with chairman kim and that he is going to stay true to the commitment that he made to the

president. >> you referred to his twitter feed. i want to put it up. he did downplay it. north korea fired off small weapons which disturbed some of people andothers, but not me. i have confidence that chairman kim will keep his promise to me. also smiled when he called swamp man joe ben a low iq individual and worse, perhaps that's sending me a signal. n you explain why americans should not be concerned the president of the united states is essentially siding with a murderous authoritarian dictator over a former vice-president of the united states? >> the president's not siding with that. i think they agree in their sessment of former vice-president joe biden. the president's focus in this process is theip relatione has and making sure we continue on the path towards denuclearization. that's what he wants to see and thatt the people in this region want to see and are hopeful the president right d that that relationship will

be what helps move us further down that path. >> the president of the united states takes the north korean dictator's word about joe biden? what happened to speaking with one voice on american foreign policy? is the president not setting up trying to have world leaders rt of pick which political party they should side wih?t >> the president doesn't need somebody else to give him an ceaseme assessment of joe biden. he's given his own assessment. i'm sure you have covered it. the president watched him and his administration with president obama fail for eight years. he has come in in 2 1/2 and cleaned up a lot of the messes left behind. we shouldn't be in the position we're in to have to deal with north korea at the le tl we are ify had done their job. that we're seeing in mmeent after in relationship after relationship that the

previous administration did nothing. they failed with iran, with north korea, on trade. we finally have a president that's being tough with these countries. we have put toughe sanctions on north korea than the obama administration ever did. at the same time, the president wants to develop that relationship and he wants to actually get something done. he doesn't want to just talk in pretty rhetoric. he has been tough on china for the first time ever. china is sitting down at the table and negotiating for better deals on trade. for the first time, we're seeing iran's economy crumbling. nobody has been tougher on russia than this president. i think if anybody an assessmen. he failed to do the job in the number two slot. >> i'm trying to understand how your north korea policy is a success if he is launching mi iles. i understand that you have had summits. nothing has come come of it.

he is doing missile tests again. we're right back where we began. >> it's not true to say nothing s come of it. there have been steps that have moved us towards for a strong -- time.ficant period of there was no missile testing. we got hostages back home to the united states.in remaof american war heroes. i don't know how you can say that's nothing. to me, that's certainly something. i know it's something to thefa lies of those individuals who those people came back home. this is a president who has made those th happen. he should never have been in this position in the first place. this is because of the failure of the adminisations that came before him that never dealt with it to begin with. >> i'm going to ask youth about decision to give the attorney general this unilateral authority to declassify intelligence. the order says the attorney general should consult with relevant agency heads but not that he has to. why did the president not force the attorney general to consult

with the head of the cia? here he is giving h authority not to do it, only saying, he should do it but he doesn't have to. why? >> the president has total confidence in the attorney general and his ability -- >> but not the intelligence community? >> certainly, that's why we expect that the attorney general will consult with them on matters that he needs that guidance and advice from them. t certainly,y work in lockstep on a number of things. i don't see this toff be any dient. the bottom line is there was corruption at the fbi and doj. we have seen more things that have come out of that. the president wants transparency. he's given the aorney general put that transparency in place, make those decisions. hat e not at all concerned the attorney general is not going to do everything that is necessary to make sure we're protecting important telligence that's vital to our national security.

>> i'm trying to understand what outcome the preside expects. he tweeted the following, my campaign for president was conclusively spied on. nothing like this has ever happened in americanol pics. a really bad situation. treason means long jail sentences. this was treason. why did the president ask the attorney general to do an investigation if he has come to a conclusion, decided what the penalty should be? i think has determined what the jail sentences should be. isn't this the president already playing judge and jury and putting his thumb on the scale here for whatever investigation he claims he wants mr. barr to do? >> that's rich coming from the media who relentlessly covered andcc aed the president for over two years of beingt par of this massive election in interfer interference. the idea that anybody says the president doesn't have the right and not only that americans deserve the right to find out where all of this started is

absurd. for day after day, the media and democrats in congress called the president a traitor to his own country and said that he cheated become president. the idea that is absolutely outrageous that he had to endure that for two years. now he wants to why and where it started. that's a big deal, that's insane. >> i doesn't ask about him -- no, no, o. i did not ask -- san'h, i d ask whether he should ask those questions. he is not asking questions anymore. he has made a judgment. that's is different. will he accept a result of the attorney general saying, youwh know, everything was done legally and on the up and up, will he accept that from bill barr? >> we already know that there was an outrageous amount of corruptionla that took p at the fbi. they leaked information. they lied. they were specifically working, trying t take down the

president, trying to hurt the president. we will leave the final call up to the attorney general. he will get to the bottom of it. we think americans deserve the truth. the president asked for that. we should expect nothing less. >> the president is not goi to accept exoneration if that's what bill barr finds? >> i'm not going to get ahead of what the final conclusion is. we know that there was a high level of corruption that was taking place. we have seen that in the ig investigation that's happened. >> not out yet. >> there's more we need to wekn. ill let the attorney general dohis job. >> it sounds like the president has already determined the outcome. >> cluck, thathuck, that's the granted the attorney general the authority to look at all the documents necessary is so we can get to the very bottom of what happened. once again, we already know about some wrongdoing.

the president is not wrong in that. he wants to know everything that happen andow far and wide it went. we know there was corruption. >> does he expect criminal charges? does he expect -- he accused comey of treason. does he expect jim comey to be rested? >> again, we're going to let the attorney general make that determination as he gets to the conclusion of this investigation. >> the president -- >> we certainly expect the people that were responsible and were part of this out -- unprecedented obstruction and corruption at the fbi, those people should certainly be held responsible and be held un acble. the president expects that to take place. >> he expects an outcome he wants, not an outcome that the cts lead to? >> chuck, i think you are trying to muddy the waters too much. we already know -- >> i think -- >> there was wrongdoing. >> i think what's rich is who is muddying waters.

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we can't end "meet the press" without talking 2020. small ttern developing here. in the democratic primary polling, we have had a couple o polls, and there's one deniable trend. bernie sanders is getting squeezed from two sides. joe biden has got in, his numbers grew. bernie sanders got lower. elizabeth warren has been growing. what's intereouing, the less y were paying attention, the more likely you were a sanders supporter. the point being, biden took sort supporters. warren is starting to get traction. bernie is a candidate all ofdd trying to figure out how to get traction again. >> this is the dilemma of 2020. sanders in 2016 was the flagship progressive candidate. if you liked warren, other people, you found your candidate in bernie sanders. now you have warren and other people talking about the same kind of legislation, same licies. i was talking to someone from the warren campaign today.

they wouldn't comment on polls. they made a point to say, she's been to 18 states plus puerto rico. she's someone who has held 81 town halls. that person was making the case, she's doing ju as much as him. i was thinking about how senator warren has been setting herself apart, apa from being the first can't to talk about impeaching the president, she decided not to go on fox and hall.that town i asked that campaign person, tell me more about that decision. they pointed me to the thread and said, she didn't mince words with fox news. they are a hate-filled pr propaganda network. sanders says, i want to go after those voters. >> he was the first to do a fox town hall. >> biden is trying to claim he is the most progressive candidate. that's going to be pushed back on. this idea that sanders isn't the hot new kid anymore. that's interesting to say about bernie sanders. >> you can't be an insurnt twice. it's tough.

there's part of this where you think, maybe hhere's nothing can do about it. hillary clinton is not on the ballot again. i say this to donald trump supporters who think, you know, hillary clinton is not on theba ot again. sanders without her as a galvanizing force, he didn't have as big of a following as we thought. >> it was inevitable as the other candidates, like you say, get on the ground and are -- it's in the early states where those polls are more likely to show warren and harris.e i think th real worry i have is that we do polls week after mek, we have 19ore weeks of this thing left. over a year and a half. sometimes i dream of going back to the old system w where -- if had the parties choosing the candidates, it wouldn't be until the summer of 2020 we would begin have conventions. labor day it would start. we would be living a life. these polls -- >> we get to be the gatekeepers. this is what everybodyhated. >> i know you can't go backwards. in 1912 when they introduced the

first primary and it was a mess. how can we argue like this? it's a blush to all of americans that we are seen arguing like this. go back to the old system which was rational. but the good thing is a lot of ideas are coming out. however many candidates we have, we're coming out with good ideas. we can -- they have task forces. at least it's a respite from the obsession with the presidency. >> pat, i know the trump campaign -- donald trump is a terrible poker player. he made it clear heears biden. he never hides what he fears. >> he cannot hide. >> are you concerned biden is not getting sucked into the liberal debate or the progressivebate that you thought he would? >> what joe biden is doing is what a lot of congressional democrats did in red states during the last election, say as little as possible about details of issues,ic w the other 30 candidates have already done. it's got them in trouble. harris, for example, got in

trouble with insurance and health care and getting rid of private insurance. biden is saying nothing at this point in time. he is talking macro. the question is, how much longer can he get away with that? a lot of congressional democrats got away with that in theast election. it will be interesting if biden can stall for that period of time. >> david, i keep pinning you intons wisco. i think about the madison activists. i think about them because that to me -- can joe biden win them over? if you win ovis the mad activists on the, my number one plank is beat trump, and the madison folks buy into that, that's trouble if youre elizabeth warren or bernie sanders. >> i don't think he can win them over in the primary. nomination, he can win them over. particularly depending on who hk pias his vice-president. i think there's -- i would -- there's apr ticality to it where people are saying we want to beat trump. i think there's plenty of alternatives besides joe biden

for that among thoses. activist >> before we go, everything in the uk seems to preview american politics by six months. brexit, trump. doris, this is a western democracy larger thing here. put it in quick perspective. >>shat's happening i that western democracies have not answered the needs of people, the prosperity of their countries has not been sharedty a lof people who feel out of the system. people in the country feel split up from people in the city. they are blaming them on people, immigrants become a scapegoat. it's a huge problem if ade cracy doesn't share prosperity and allow people to have mobility to rise to the vel of their discipline and talent. it's being felt. they haven't worked. they have to work at that before we are going to see this everywhere. >> a great way to end thau thank yoery much. that's all we have for today. thank you for watching. i hope you enjoy the rest of your memorial day weekend. we'll be back next wk because if it's sunday, it's the press."

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