this sunday after the debates, two nights, 20 m candidate, andoments of confrontation. >>f you did your homework on this issue, you would know -- >> and of candor. >> because i couldn't get it done. >> statements ofe purpose. >> need to make structural change in our government, in our economy, and in our country. >> and a shift to the left. >> raise your handf your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. >> moments tt exposed weakness. >> i agree that everybody want -- no, my time is up. >> and d those thatonstrated strength. >> and that little girl was me. >> this morning, the shifting power dynamics, debating how far left is too far, and the biggest thing we learned this week. my guests, setor cory booker of new jersey, and former housing secretary, julian castro of texas. plus, historic idmeeting. prt trump meets with kim jong-un at the dmz.

then becomes the first sitting president to step foot into north korea, as the two sides agree to more talks. and crisis at the border. this hearreaking photo becomes the indelible image of desperation and despair as stories emerge of neglected children in detention centers. i'll talk to our republican enator leader john barrasso of wyoming. joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt, democratic pollster, white house correspondent for pbs news hour, and republican strategisal cardena. welcome to sund t. it's "meet press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longestinrunning show television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. gorn sunday mog. we're going to get to the big political news of the week in a moment, but we're going to begin this morning with president trump's visit withorth korea's kim jong-un at the dmz.

it was an historic first as the two agreed to resume their efforts at a nuclear agreement. >> good to see youai ag i didn't expect to meet you at this place. >> the president then walked over the rder, iefly, becoming the first sitting u.s. president to step into north korea. afterwards, mr. trump spoke to reportt's. >> i just an honor to be with you. it was an honor you asked me to step over that line. i was proud to step over the line. >> nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is the at dmz. okay, richard, is this just a moment for a headline, or is there some substance to this? >> reporter: well, a little bit of both, frank. he went and built rapport with kijong-un, and that is important. diplomacy, personal relationships are critical, eaespecially when you're dng with a country like north korea, a total one-man show.

having a personal relationship, being able to pick up the phone, bringing him to your inner circle, introducing him to your love, , showing him the that does matter, and it could lead to further diplomatic breakthroughs. it certainly restarts the talks after the last summit with kim jong-un not going very well and ending in a stalemate. so that's good. dynamism is good. spontaneity is good. there were a lot of people who criticized the previous administration because they didn't know how to reach out to it. president trump is saying he's willing to break the rules. that kind of thing works with tyrants, wor with kim jong-un. he also got kim jong-un out of his comfort zone. if you look at those image, kim jong-un seed totally confused to be surrounded by reporters in this unfamiliar situation, having questions thrown at him. so all that's positive. the negative thing is how he is spinning it. he's telling reporters, telling the world through twitter and

speeches that he saved the korean peninsula, that this region was on the brink of war, that only was able to sweep in, and i think he's counting on the american people not kncuing ent events, not knowing that it wasn't on the brink of war before he became president. it actually got a lot worse after he was elected. so he's telling the world that he saved the world when, in fact, to a degree, he's saved things from himself. >> all right, richard. a familiar pattern, perhaps, as we've seen with other instances here. richard engel in korea for us. richard, thanks very much. > now to this week's big political news and what we think we learned from the two nights of democratic presidentials. debate we think we learned the party's center of gravity or at least the candidates believe the party's center of gravity has moved sharply to the lef o especiallyissues like health care and immigration. we learned that kamala harr' big viral moment proved she was

worthy of the hype. we learned that joe biden has no path to this nomination. he still has to earn it. we also should learn to be cautious about putting too much stock into the social media analysis and twitter chatter post-debate. realize this, 4% of people who watch the debates on television were 55 or older. that's not exactly the social media progressive demographic. and those older viewers may be more sympathetic to biden. most of all, we learned that this nomination battle is wide open with no prohibitive favorite. in a party trying to decide exactly how far to t left it wants to go. >> i respect senator harris, but you know, wew all kno that 30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. >> reporter: vice president biden is on defense after that nce in a debate perfor race that now appears wide open.

>> iha agree tt everybody wants -- no, no, my time up. >> reporter: biden's apparent political vulnerabilities were on display thursday night as punctured ala harris his aura of inevitability. >> it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two united states senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. you also worke with them to oppose bussing. and you know, there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was buo school every day. and that little girl was me. >> mischaracterization of my position across the board. i did not praise racists. that is. not number one. number two, if we want to have this wampaign litigated onho supports civil rights and whether i did or not, i'm happy

to do that. >> reporter: harris has since doubled down. >> i just think he and i have a differen of opinion and also difference of opinion on state's rights. >> i never, ever opposedvo ntary bussing. >> reporter: the central premise of biden's campgn is he's the democrat best equippede to tak on president trump and beat him. >> what i that first issue for your presidency? >> the first thing i would d is make sure that we defeat donald trump. period. >> reporter: biden has shown durability over months, where his record has been litigated in the press, but after theat dee, some democrats are calling him a fragile front runner. >> who do you think can against president trump? >> i feel like harris definitely could. >> reporter: as the party shifts to the left, harris again fnd herself backtracking on the issue of government-run health care. >> who here would abolish their private health insurance in favor of a governnt-run plan? >> reporter: but after the debate, harris said she misunderstood the question. >> do you believe that private insurance should be eliminated in this country? >> no. >> you don't? i

>> no, do not. >> but you raised your hand. >>st the qn was would you give up your private insurance for that option, and i said yes. >> reporter: the debates have showcased the party's leftward shift on the economy, health care, taxes, n andational security policy, led by senators elizabeth warren -- >> calling out the names of the monopolists. >> reporter: and bernie sanders. >> we will have medicare for all. >> reporter: and on immigration. >> raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. >> and joining me now is presidential candidate, democratic senator cory booker of new jersey. senator, welme back to "meet the press," sir. >> good to be on. great to see you on wednesday night too. >> yes, it was. let me start with what happened on thursday night because i want the ar your reaction to between vice president biden and senator harris,orpecifically senat harris' critique. do you believe her critique was fair and accurate on the vice

president's record? >> look,ng i was talbout the vice president's comments well before the debate where he used words like boy in a way that caused a lot of hurt and harm. i called him out on it. instead of coming forward and co saying, id have said that better, or let me tell you what i meant, he fell into a fensive crouch and tried to reassign blame and said i should apologize to him. whoever our nominee is going to be, whoever the next president is going to be, really needs to be someone who can talk openly and honestlyabout raceith vulnerability because none of us are perfect. but really call this country to common ground, to conciliation. i'm not sure if vice president biden is up to that task given the way this last three weeks have played out. frankly, i know whoever is that nominee needs to be able to pull this country together because we needo reconcile. >> i want to play a quote the vice president said on friday that you took some issue with on twitter. let me play that quote and get you to react on the other side. here it is.

>> we got to recognize that kid wearing a hoodie may very well be the next poet laureate and not a gang banger. >> now, after your criticism on twitter, the vice president's campaign put out their own statement. i want to put it up and then get you to react. vice president biden, like many leaders over the years, was calling direct attention to e daily experiences faced by many african-american men around the country and the perceived so-called threat from people like trayvon martin who were deemed criminal while wearing a hoodie. as the context of his remarks noted, we need to makeure ack mothers feel confident when they sendd their chil out on the streets that they're going to feel safe. but they didn't address the use of the word gangbanger, which was the hsue youd. explain. >> again, as ain guy grow up, a young black guy in america, who was followed, surveilled, being perceived to be a threat, again, this is just another example of

just conversations or lessons that joe biden shouldn't have to s learn. there'lot of his record from bussing to the 1994 crime bill. i was in law school when that was going on wn you saw african-american men being arrested at rat that were unconscionable. i came from yale and stanford, where people were using juana, using drugs, but lived in a country where there's no difference between drug usage and drug selling between blacks and whites, butam african-icans are almost four times more likely to be incarcerated for those things. and these are very typical, painful issues to the point now that because of a lot of legislation that joe biden endorsed, this war on drugs, which has been a war on people, we've now had a 500% increase in the prison population since 1980, overwhelmingly black and brown. there's more african-americans under criminal supervision today than all the slaves in 1850. these are real, painful, hurtful issues. again, we need nominees that can speak to this in aha way t

heals, that brings people together, that rises us up as a country to not only deal with historic and systemic racism but helps us to come together and deal with our common purpose and common cause. >> do you thinkce the v president is just incapable of that because of his record? that because of this lengthy record that no matter whether he disavows it or not, that that disqualifies himo be the nominee for a democratic party in the 2t century? >> well, a lot of democrats that were involved with the 1994 crime bill have spoken very hopely with vulnerabilit talking about their mistakes. so that doesn't disqualy yo but what we've seen from the vice president over the last month is an inability to talk candidly about the mistakes he s he could have done better, about how some of the decisions he made at the time in difficult context actually have resultedreally bad outcomes. and this is a bad culture where you can't admit mistakes, where

you can't speak to your vulnerabilities and your imperfections. all have them, but when it comes to difficult issues with race, if you can't talk openly and honestly about yo development on these issues, i think it's very hard to lead our country forward so that we actuly can deal with our past and rise to amobetter c cause and common future. we have one destiny in this nation. right now the vice president me is not doing a good job at bringing folks together. in fact, he's -- and i've heard this from people all around the country. he's causing a lot of frustration and even painith his words. >> i want to ask you a larger philosophical question about the party here, which is simply this. take the issue of health care and t question of where do you guys redisagree and whe do you agree. if you were coming in from a foreign country, you would say, everybody seems to agree on where they want toal take care. there's just a disagreement on the speed with which you guys would do universal health care.

but it feels like there' a huge divide. you have tried to straddle thi progressive and sort of mainstream wing of the party, trying to sell progressives everybody's got to be brought along together. where is that line for you? >> well, again, for me it's very practical. i actually was a chief executive. i had to run new jersey's largest city. i always spoke to what our ideals were, where we were going, what the destination would be, but i never let perfect be the enemy of the good, especially in communities like in newark where desperately needed some good. we needed some progress. and so this, to me, is not as complicated a debate you're framing it. the goal that most americans hold is that the wealthiest nation on th planet earth should have everyone having access to high-quality, h affordable heare. i believe the best way to get there in this imperfect system would be medicare for all, but i so know that on day one as president, people want to see their prescription drug costs go down. people want to see a pathway to

having lower health care costs. that's why putting that public opti out, letting people buy in, lowering the cost of health care, these are theatrgencies would deal with as a chief execut me from experience as a chief executive. >> senator cory booker, unfortunately, that's all the time i have. i hope to have you back sooner. we can talk more issues there. i appreciate you comarg on and shg your views. thank you for participating in the debates. >> thank you very much. and joining me now from san antonio is presidential candidate, former housing secretary julian castro. secretary castro, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good to be with you>> ou had an event friday night in austin, sold out, after yourm debate perfoce. be honest with me here. how important did you feel these first debates were going to be for your candidacy in particular? >> very important, yeah. i knew coming in that more in people were gog to be watching this debate than had been tuned in to any event in the campaign so far. peoplead their first

opportunity to start comparing candidates. i wanted to introduce myself to a lot of folks because, as you note, chuck, my name i.d. has been lower than some of the other candidates. i also think -- and i think, you stow, my takeaway from it is probably the mo helpful thing people saw when it comes to me and my candidacy after wednesday night is that the number question i get asked when i talk to voters in iowa, here in te s, california, new hampshire, wherever, is they have this kind of anxiety about the democratic nominee and whether the nominee can go toe to toe on the debate stage with donald trump. can you hold your own? what they saw was that i have a ng, compelling vision for the future of the country and that i can hold my own when i'm challenged on a debate stage. i can go toe to toe with donald trump. i think that's an important hurdle for voters, especially this year. >> i want to talk about your sort of signature moment in that debate, when you went up - and beto o'rourke had a back and

forth about the issue of essentially decriminalizing one part of immigrationwa law. you to see it done. i want to get you to react to something fareed zakaria wrote in "the washington post" eerlier this w if things continue to spiral downward in america's southern border seems out of control, trump's toughet rhic and hardline stance will become increasingly attractive. the rise of populism in the western world is almost everywhere, tied to fears of out of control immigration. his point being this, th the democrats have to also have a plan to figure out this increase in my grags, itimmigration. it's happening all over the world. some of it's impacted by climate change. others, authoritarian rule. what does that plann look like i a castro administration? >> i'm glad you asked. as you probably know, chuck, i was actually the first in early april to put out a

comprehensive immigration plan, and my firstwe ans would be if you're out there and you're saying, what in the world is going on? 144,000 people came to the soutarn border l month. i agree with you. we need to address this. but thr,e's a smarte more effective, and more humane way to address this. i'll give you an example of that. we've known for years that people are coming from central america. in 2014, we had a lot of people that also ycame. in trs subsequent to that, we did too. the first thing this president should have done is what i've called f, which is a 21st century plan to partner with these northern triangle gountries that many of these people are cominfrom, whether it's honduras or el salvador or guatemala, so people can find safety andt opportunity ahome instead of having to come to the united states. if i'm elected president, i'm going to go to work right away to make sure that we partner with those countries to stem the ow of people who feel so

desperate that they need to come to the united states.'s thctually a smarter, long-term way dealith this. >> let me ask you about the politics of these debates. you have some establishment democrats, some republicans licking the chops, establishment democrats wringing their hands because these debates presented a group of candidates who were,quote, for open borders if you decriminalize, or you could be painted as for open rders, painted as for using u.s. tax dollars to give health care to undocumented immigrants. there's concern that a president trump could exploit thato his gain. what say you? >> number one, the president is going to call democrats as being for open borders no matter what we say. nobody is talking about open borders. we have 654 miles of fencing. we have thousands of personnel athe border. we have planes. we have helicopters, guns, boats, security cameras. states like texas, my hom state that i'm in right now, spent an

extra $800 million on border security. that's just a right-wing talking point. what we're talking about is maintaining a secure border but doing things like tat 21st century plan so we can actually stem the flow of people here because they can find safety and opportuny at home. we're talking about creating an independent immigration courtem systith more judges and more support staff so that we can actually get these claims, asylum claims resolved and ople are not waiting in the united states in limbo for years and years. so if you're somebody who's out there who is concerned about's what happening, i understand that. i'm saying that there's a smarter, there's a more effective way to do this that's also more t humanen what we're doing today. >> before i let you go, curious of your reaction to senator vharris' criticism ofe president biden's record in the '70s, particularly on the issue of busng. i'm curious of your reaction to it and whether you thought

senator harris was bringing up a relevant point. >> oh, of course. i think that's relevant. i think the record of all of the candidates that are running, including vice presideden's record, is relevant. and his stance on bussing is relevant asll. i thought that, you know, his -- what i took as his position being that heed allow local communities toak m a decision, essentially relying on states' rights. i think he's going to have to continue toexplain why that was a good position because, you know, we've had very painful story in this country of trying to desegregate when i was at hud, one of the things i'm most proud of is we passed the most ground breaking rule since t h fairsing act in 1968 to further help desegregate american communities. so that pain is still there in this couny, and he's going to have to address that not only in

the debate, but i think going forward. >> julian castro, former housing secretary, former mayor ofan antonio, thanks for coming on, sharing your views. thanks for participating in the debates. >> good to be with you. back, the co fallout from the debates and just how far left can democrats but we mean so much more. we mean how can we help?e we mean what can wdo? we mean it's our turn. do our part. to serve you, for all you've done to serve us. ♪ but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast...

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welcome back. panelists here. republican strategist al cardenis, nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt, and mocratic pollster cornel belcher. yes, if you're wonderie , there arree miami natives. sorry, guys. >> i'm the odd man out. >> all right. cornel, this is your party. you get the first word. what did we -- take a step back

here. what do we now know that we didn't know bere the debates? >> i think we now know that we have a lot of diversity in the party but also a lot of people who are putting forth policy ideals. debate it was largely a about policy, even the exchange between kamala and biden was largely about aolicy about bussing. i think you also -- look, for me, some candidates moved the bar, yes. think senator harris mov the bar. i think she gave joe biden a punch, and he didn't react very well t >> no, he didn't. >> i think she -- i think a lot of voters are now looking at her differently than thelooked at her before, and that's what you want to do. we talked about having a moment in the debate. senator hatis had a momenin the debate, and i think over the next two months, you will see her poll tumbers begin rise. i predict, chuck, she's going to be the next front runner. although, i think we'll have four or five before it's over.

>> that's interestin here's what ed kilgorerote in "new york" magazine. two, his possible complacency as the early front runner. and three, his heavy dependence on african-american voters for his current lead and clear vulnerability on racially sensitive issues. this is probably the more important takeaway. >> they're all great points. i do think it's that big picture. it's everything taken together about what we saw with joe biden standing on that stage. this idea tha he's almost been running a hillary-esque campaign where he's been the front asrunner. he ht wanted to appear on the same stage with a lot of his rivals frequently. he's doing a lot of these high-dollar fundraisers making comments where taken outside of the context of that room, the voters focused on populist policies, his comments don't quite sound right. all of those questions

underlying this, that people are not, you know -- we're a ltle reluctant to push it into the center. the president has been using this criticism that basically de the vice presi has lost a step. every single thing the campaign and that the candidate in joe biden does that feeds into that is a pblem for them. >> here's what michelleolerg wrote. there was a universal consensus that kamala harris drove on thursday, scoring a blow against biden. the question is whether these victories can convince battle scar women. >> i think what we learned this week i that exchange between kamala harris and joe biden was really, i think, at the core of what the democtic party is lling over. she started that exchange by saying the only black woman on the this stage, i want a minute to talk about race.k i thinat she was doing there was putting her race at the center in a way that sometimes people are worried about candidates doing but tting her actual personal story out there.

by doing that, she did something joe biden couldn't compete with. it wasn't that he didn't have an answer. he can't say, i was a little girl on that bus. when you watched him try to get the story right and try to get his explaining right, over the last couple days, they haven't been able to get right. the aides that i talk to understand that a lot of that is because they're still struggli t with this idt he has these quotes. he called bussing an asinine policy, a liberal train wreck. to add to that, these are issues that are still going on right now. a study done just last year showed there were black and brown students who are increasingly attending racially segregated schools. this isn't an issue from the 1970s but an issue going on right now. >> al, bigger picture here. david brooks wrote som thing fridayt might ring true. the debates illustrate the dilemma for modern democrats. if they take on progressives, they get squashed by the he intensity of teft. if not, the party moves so far left that it can't win in the fall.

tr homeless. as someone who skeptic -- >> yeah, great question for me. in the eyes of someone who was looking for a possible >> right. and so who said nnett, maybedeney. debates, i said to myself, that stuff got nowhere. so yeah, there were a few things said that i could findr,ut it d th indianapolis the threeare, t candidates il the ses my candi this? i go in on this aoys me to no end. all respect to brooks, we don't need you, right? we don't need you.

we need to rebuild the obama coalitn. ben that he's hillaryocus grou know, they're not goin lesser of two evils. i think the problem with joe biden is he becomes hillary cann ign on young electorate, not again. >> mt cornell is lk someobama, once trump these midwestern states. the question is who can thread that need the. the question for biden is can he t ectrify those people tha cornell is talking about. i see little evidence. >> not if you have to talk about bussing at every debate.

that is no way to elect. >> as a trump skeptic, i see this campaign shaping up into two 40% bases talking past each that middle is going to be a i don't see any energy in the midd it think any campaign strategy is going to be based on appealing to the middle. i think this is going to be a base turnout campaign, and i don't know if these debates are going to change my minds.e to someone likme,that's >>oue just goingai to run audicrous. one thing kamala harris eneally showed. the eye and showed if she was on stage with donald trump, she wouldn't just be beating up onh m, she'd be looking him dead question, can ak at question of

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joining me now, the number wyom. meet the press." >>s for having me. >> that photo. >> sad, tragic. >> is there anybody to this death? how do evt this? >> i'm ami' a doctor. you never want seeimportant tha. the thing more dying juo the united states, taking tha a i don blame anyone for this. we have a system incentivizing people to take a lo , dangerous trip where people are getting trafficked, raped, murdered, used for trafficking drugs. we need to stop the incentives that tell people if you get here, we're going to keep you re and give you more things. we need to do -- and look,

there'sla bipartisan legison in progress with lindsey graham and dick durbin to try to seay, let's have people who to come here for asylum apply from where they are. let's make sure children can stay with families a longer s period of timewe can adjudicate some of these things. there's actually bipartisan progress being made, but we had to take eight weeks to g a bipartisan humanitarian relief bill passed because some people are saying it's a manufactured crisis. this is a real humanitarian crisis. >> but are you now -- are you now convinced that you can't enforce your way out of this crisis? because right now it does seem as if the trump administration thinks if they just tighten the screws, if they just make it harder here, it'll slow the flow. it hasn't slowed the flow. it's only increased it. they thought family separation was going to work. that didn't work. now -- do you now know that just enforcement only isn't going to stop this? >> yes, you have to enforce the law. you cannot just ignore the law.

but you have tome eliminate so of these incentives that are pulling people to take unnecessary, very dangerous risks. >> shy get rid of the aid in central america? talk about an incentive, disincentive. if you take away all that aid, these countries can't do anything about the horrible conditions there. >> if you take a look at some of those countries, even if you were to increase the aid,av that it would actually get used. there's corruption bettwi job disincentivizing people to come to the united states by allowing them to apply for asylum elsewhere, by trying to treat specifically the young children who are coming here unaccompanied. no matter what country they come from, they ought to be treated the same. >> usnow, the ho democrats passed a bill, their version of the bill. they had basically stricter standards on how the money was to be used.

the senate rejected those new stricter trust this y as it's intended to do when you've appropriated money and h ergency, i don'tte on how this spent? >> wellenate passed a billgislation. in s something pass 84-8?uman resources. it was the right bill, and to have that held up by the far left democrats in the house, who tried to boycott it, i think is wrong. >> but they held it up for what's going k at on in homestead. number one, why are we giving money to a private contractor to run something that we don't -- se it's t able to, bec a temporary facility, it doesn't fall under the same regulatory standards as a governmety

faciliould. it turns out that's a big problem, not a small one. >> 84-8 in the united states senate shows significant bipartisan agreement with this eing the solution for the manitarian relief -- >> you're comfortable letting this private prison -- or these private prison companies run these private>>helters? i'd rather have the government and government funding approaching all of these things, making those -- we have to cut downiv ince, but the problem, as you know, is getting worse. there have been more detentions, and it's still june, this year alone than all of last year, all 12 months. the numbers are getti worse. the red lights are flashing. we have to do more to prevent people from taking these dangerous journeys to the united states with the promise of free alth care, if they get here. if you get here, you get to stay because you never have to show up for a hearing, and you get to stay in the united states and you will not be removed. i think the incentives are asking people to take dangerous journeys, which result in such a

sad and tragic loss of anlife. >> i wto go back to this situation in homestead. this company's profiting off of this crisis. shouldtiny e be profiting off this crisis? >> no, and you know more about the situation in homestead than i do, butno people shouldn't be >> so why allow this facility to even stay open at this point? if they haven't been able to -- if they are treateding kids tin poorly, why are they going to get more government tid? s talks about the need for actually getting this bill passed. it took us eight weeks to get to a point where we cld get an agreement that this is truly an humarian crisis, not just a manufactured crisis. so it's taking a long time to get that buy in. we need bipartisan solutions. i've been working with ron johnson on a solution through homeland security. the's bipartisan efforts. we need actual solutions that will work, that will provide relief, but will also make sure

that the incentives are removed of people trying to come here under these circumstances. >> all right. i want to talk about the president's trip overseas. a bieaof a c-fire, if you will, on the trade talks between china and the united states. but part of that cease-fire was the president now agreeing to let huawei, the telecomm china, to buy materials from u.s. companies. and here's what marco rubio put on twitter. if president trump has agreed to reverse recent sanctions against huaw, he's made a catastrophic mistake. it will destroy the credibility of his administration's warnings about the threat posed by the company. no one will ever again take them seriously. he p hsented it as ifwas true. turns out this isyo about this? >> very concerned about huawei.y i think thre a threat to our national -- >> so the president made a mistake? >> i think huawei is a threat to the national o security america. i know the president is a deal he is workingi certainly into our about what o.

ned states would be liketo steal mo information from then,, u believe, is a mistake? cease-fire with trade with china was important. we need more trade. we have product in wyoming. we want to sell overseas in terms of energy, in terms of beef. but this trojan horse is now back. is that worth it? >> the presidult said that wo be the last discussion point of the discussion on trade. let them work through the other s of this. but to me, huawei should not be in the united states. >> so doesn't it concern you the president is not ruling it out? >> it does concern me, yes. >> okay. all right. senator john barrasso, thanks for coming on and sharing your views. >> thanks for having me. when we come back, the democratic candidates seem

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physically. mentally, his head was in another place. here's president trump at a meeting with angela merkel. >> i saw that health care and maximum health carellal i democrats. unfortunately, they couldn't discuss what they're goiving to american citizens. in fact, i heard a rumor that they're going to change the t ne of party to the socialist party. i'm hearing that. let's see if they do it. >> this is who donald trump is. thiss our president. this is so bizarre and unusual that a sitting president of the united states is going to trash the united states on just again, hawhdone it, me are you -- ouage? >> y

an outrage to me greatest outras that photo on the front page of every newspaper. while everyone was waving, he was shaking the hand of the crown prince of saudi arabia. en of course, i think het played when he walked over the line in north korea without anything to show for it. at was my view of that trip. i was hoping -- well, one good thing about the trip, to be fa , was his conversation with the chinese premier. i think everyone in america was happy that they decided to continue talks and set aside the tariffs for the moment. >> let me, though, go to the other weird moment. that was the medal moment. i'm not talkingbout any ympic medals. i'm talking about meddle between the president and mr. putin.

we had that. al brought up the crown prince. by the way, mitt romney, i want to put that tweet up. the president's praise for mbs, the man who u.s. intel says ord th this is the unde entire trip, meeting with authoritarian figures. basically wink and n to his entire presidency. personally thatut russia a presidentha people thinkletimac president why he doesde sirgely with russia instead of the intelligence

community. i think the reason there isn't more outrage is because mitt romney is one of the onlys republicantalking about this and because people have kind of gotten used to this. i was in london when there are all these times wherid the prest is clearly focused on her things and bashing democrats all the time when he'r crs from rushing to the impeac the president tries to incentivize democrats to rush to the impeachment gate. >> it's a bit tonishing. journalists be >> if i put all of tha murder hong for from the to explainese

to shed any doubt on his own personal ndelection, a that's all it's really about for him. but every time something like this happe , you have to go back to wondering locampaign? dolyboth wt do you say to moderates, this is why o well ts are going to with moderates. this is why, quitelook at theans there's nothing about who this from anmftable.moats won 9th republicans. cae people fell in love widemocrats. you have a real problem with him

tat the top ticket. >> speaking of other issues here, not just his flirtation withri authori figures, the allegation this woman,f a every more people are from just met , again, i don'tt want to sayere. i mean, is he a serial -- it comeacross that he might be a serial sexual predator. >> it's numbness. one of the things we'vbeen watching is what's really going to be the appetite about impeachment. will these debates be persuasive to the house members, to the democratic leadership to commence it? becauseea impment is not just about the mueller report or

obstruction of justice. impeachment can be about any possible charge, as it happened with bill clinton's article so i think that the house once you get into ane things be. but right now, allegations. i don't think it'll matter one hoot in terms of public opinion. >> i don't think the women of america are shrugging at this. i'tjust don >> i think you're righ e instits and pe treating this in an about it. >> one women inpersonally, i won't hold esident to a standard hiusband. watching.thek.

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