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missouri, and tim alberto from politico magazine. welcome to sunday. it's "et the press." >> announcer: from nbc news, the longest running show in tele ision history, this a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. inwe're gett our first clear look at where the race for the democratic presidential nomination actually stands and where thees candidat stand against president trump. 20re are our first head-to-head matchups of the 20ace in our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll of registed voters. we have bernie sanders with a healthy lead sitting at 50% to president trump's 43. going down the line, elizabeth warren up five but under 50, 48-43. kamala harris is essentially tied with mr. trump. as you can see there, while the democratic numbers do change depending on thee, candid president trump's numbers essentially match his job appr al rating, which in this poll is right in line where with

he's been at 45%. in the democratic race for the nomination, joe biden istill on top despite his shaky debate performance followed by a surging elizabeth warren. kama harris, bernie sanders, and pete buttigieg round out the top tier. and yes, ladies and gentlemen, that is your top tier. sorry to everybody else these days. looking at the rest of the field, only andrew yang and beto o'rourke reach 2%. there's a real prospect that the remaining one percenters won't even qualify for the third debate in september and will be forced out of the race. ultimately, the real story of our poll is two separate and distinct races are emerging on theidemocratic s each defined by the magnitude of change voters are looking for. there's the smallet change, g things done, restoration side representeby joe biden. and the big change, take risks side that favors elizabeth warren. >> we need big structural change in this country. >> i don't know why we get rid of what, in fact, was working and move to something totally

new. >> reporter: it's a tale of two primary electorates. 41% of democrats in that new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll seek smaller scale policies tsst cost le, may be easier to pass, and bring less change. 35% of those voters pick joe bin, who leads thefield among them by double digits. >> but i'm not naiv n it's some old-fashioned way of doing things that no longer exist. it's the only way our system is supposed to work. >> reporter: the other 54% of democrats want larger-scale policies and major change. those voters pick elizabeth warren. again, by double digits. >> you want to make change? we're not going to do this by getting one statute over here, a couple regulations over there, aybe a better secretary over here. it's not going to work that way. >> reporter: while biden does best among moderates and monservatives, warren holds a substantial lead a liberals, now outpacing rival bernie sanders, who is competing for the>>ame voters. hese are not radical ideas, but we need to rally the

american people by the millions. that's what i mean by a political revolution. >> reporter: the fight between electability and progressive purity is playing out as democrats debate how to take on donald trump. >> you've been awakened, awakened by donald trump. let's talk about that genius for a second. >> i don't bthink you fight getting up every day and talking about donald trump. i don't. this is our chance to talk about our vision for america. >> repter: and argue over issues like medicangle-payer sy. scrapping ls nancy pelosi and four freshmen democrats who have called themselves the against argue these people haverld. but th of was a stateme

against the bill, and they were i said was n reporter: congrest isthat you're playing the race card with nancy pelosi? >> that's stupidly untrue. >> reporter: given these divides, can any one democrat build a coalition, bridging the distance between the party's two groups of kamala harris, among others, is trying, criticizing biden and warren, though not by name. >> i'm going to tell you, that's why i'm not churning out plans like a factory. because it is really important to me that any plan that i'm prepared to implement is actually doable. >> and joining me now is presidential candidate bernie sanders, the independent senator from vmont running as a democrat for this campaign. senator sanders, welcome back to "meet the press," sirto >> gooe with you, chuck. >> it's fascinating in our poll.

i think about your candidacy from 2015 and sort of your come from nowhere, insurgent candidacy. here you have changed the democratic party. a majority of democrats want big, substantive, transformational change. how frustrating is it to you that right now among those voters, they're picking elizabeth warren right now and not you? >> well, that's in your poll. >> i understand that. >> there are three other polls that came out in the last week or two that had us in a strong second place. and let me tell you something, chuck. let me tell you why we're going to win the democratic nomination and beat donald trump. that is that the working class of this country is sick and tired of working longe hours for lower wages. they're sick and tired of three people in america owning more wealth than the bottom half of america. sick and tired of 50% of american workers living paycheck to paycheck and being the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all people. that is why we're going to win this election. >> well, as i was saying, i feel

like message-wise, you're winning the argument. voter-wise, you still have a ways to go. you know, why you and notab elizh warren? what would you say to those democrats that want these transformational changes? they look at the two of you and say, yes, there are a few differences here and there, but they're both advocating that big transformational change. >> well, you know, elizabeth is a goodie fr of mine, and all i can say is the following. what people understand is that for decades now, there have been great speeches, great legiation, great plans about how to move the working class of this country forward. and yet in the last 30 years, unbelievably, the top 1% has seen a 21% increase -- $21 trillionir increase in the wealth while the bottom half have fallen even further behind. in other words, what we need in this country is a mass movement oflions of people, which i

am prepared to lead as wall ent, to take on street, to take on the drug companies who are ripping us off every single day, to take on the insurance companies, to take on the fossil fuelindustry, which is literally destroying this planet. what we need is a political revolution, and i think i am the only candidate who has been clear about that, who has the capability of doing that, andin defeatdonald trump in the process. >> you're getting a lot of advice these days from a lot of friends. "the new york times" story earlier this wfik was ed with a lot of it. i want to show you an excerpt. a deeper challenge confronting his aides and supporters after nearly four decades of running and usually winning, iconoclastic campaigns on his own terms, he is deeply reluctant to change his approach. and you've had a lot of -- these are people very much supporters of you who are saying it sounds too much like 2016. you have toer reji things a little bit. be more personable. how are you accepting thisce advi >> well, look, two things.

people say, bernie, you know, you'r etitious. you are talking about the rich getting richer and 40 million people living in poverty. you areg talk about many old people who cannot afford their medicine and so forth. you know what, chuck? here's a promise i will make to you. when the poor get richer and the rich get poorer, when all of our aople have health care as right, when we are leading the world in the fight against climate change, you know what, i will change what i am saying. so it's not me that's bng repetitious. it is what is going on in society continues to favor the people who have the wealth and the power while all over this country people are working two or three job and i understand it. i keep hammeri away at that issue because i believe that in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we don't need 45 million people ruggling with studentdebt. those are the issues i will continue to talk about, and those are the issues we'll win on. >> i'm very rious of what you make of what's happening in the

house of representatives on the democratic side. because it does feel a bit like it's sort of insider/outsider. alexandria ocasio-cortez, who was a volunteer in your campaign, was very upset with nancy pelosi and said, when these comments first started, i kind of thought she was keeping the progress i have ank at more of an arm's distance in order to protect more moderate members, which i understood. but the persistent singling out, it got to a point where it was just outright disrespectful, thl it singng out of newly elected women of color. is this part of this bigger diuption you helped lead four years ago where the party is just having growing pains? what do you make of this dispute? >> chuck, this is what i think. it goes without saying that the future of our country and the future of the democratic party rests with young people. and i'm very prud, by theway, in virtually every poll that i have seen, we arenn wig people under 45 or 50 years of age and younger. >> you do well of younger voters in our poll as well, yeah. >> okay. and what alexandria and other

young women and women of color are saying, we have got to reouh t to young people. we have got to heal the pain of thecl working s of this country. and that is causing some political disruption within the leadership of the democratic party. ud let me give yo one example where i am very concerned. i have helped lead the effort expand community health centers in this country. right now there's legislation in the house, t democratic house, to cut community health centers by 20%. unacceptable. so i support, you know, alexandria's and the other women's desire to bing more people, especially young people, working class people, into the democratic party. that is the future of thmo deatic party. >> do you think she's being too tough on them? >> i think a little bit. you cannot ignore the young people of this country who are passionate about economic and racial and social and environmyotal justice. got to bring them in, not

alienate them. >> i'm curious. you're one of seven senators running. have this crisis at the border, unsustainable conditions, and now even republicans are saying they think thes conditions need to change. what could you guys do right now in the senate? what do you think you could do now in the senate? i know you have plans to do something if you're elected president, but what do you plan on doing in the senate in the next couple weeks? >> well, the immediate crisis is that we cannot bera sepang children from their parents. you cannot be having unsanitary, disgraceful conditions in which women and children and people are living. this is the wealthiest country on eth. can make sure that if people travel a thousand miles with their children, while they're awaiting the asylum proceedings, they are treated with respect and dignity and as human beings. >> is there something more, though, that you could do, band ogether almost as a presidential caucus and try to

demand some of these changes? it seems as if it's a lot of rhetoric, but what could you guys bring fromhe campaign trail? >> well, i think we can raise consciousness about this issue and understand that desperate people who are fleeing violence in honduras and other countries with their little children, these are not criminals. these are desperate people who deserve to have an asylum process and to be, if possible, not detained at all. go with their relatives and friends while awaiting toceedings. at end of the day, chuck, we have got to do what the american people want, and that is comprehensive immigration reform and a parth tow citizenship for 11 million undocumented. we need to provide immediate legal status for the daca program and a humane border policy. >> senator sanders, i'm going to leave it there for now. thanks for coming on and v sharg yows. stay safe on the trail. >> okay. thank you. take care. >> thank you. now joining me from the other side of the aisle in the united

states senate, senator ron johnson of wisconsin. welcome back to the show, sir. >> good morning, chuck. >> let me start with the vice president's visit with some senate republicans dow a couple of centers there, one of them the po t reporterraveling with the vice president described a horrendous stench when they walked into the facility. the vice president himself saidu this was t. we've heard a lot more republicans acknowledge the conditions here in these facilities are just unsustainable. okay. where do we go from here? are you comfortable with this situation? >> oh, absolutely not, which is why i wassupporting the emergency funding measure for months for democrats finally decided to cooperate and grant the .6 billion or vote for the $4.6 billion in funding. that's just a first step. but chuck, the problem is the uncontrolled, the overwhelming flow of people coming into this country illegally. in may alone, 4600 people per

day. came down a little bit in june to about p3500 peo per day. on average, it's been over 2800 people per day for this fiscal year. so again, let me put this in context. since 2014, that was the humanitarian crisis year that presidt obama called humanitarian crisis when 120,000 people came in this country illegally, either unaccompanied child, but primarily part of a family. the last five years, nine months, 1,086,000 people have e,me in and been apprehended. 1,086,000 peopl about half of those have come in the last nine months alone. so it's overwhelming our systemo and the of our policy should be to reduce that flow. turn it into a legal process. there's a numb w of things can do. one of the things we have to do is raise that initial bar in terms of claiming asylum.

hopefully set up centers in guatemala, in central america so people can claim refugee status. but this is completely out of control. >> senator, there seems to be that enforcement -- there's an argument the extra enforcement issues, the get-tough measures the president has triedacis ally encouraging more migration. let me read you a clip from ricardo salinas. the people of central ameriwi are left a stark choice. endure growing instability, poverty, and intensifying violence as part of the failed drug war n or flee before the border is closed completely. the rapidly rising numbers of families and unaccompanied minors who are williei to risk thlives to make the perilous journey north, even knowing that detention and separation await, speak of the increasing desperation. i mean, this seems to be -- we're talking about the border when the real core o problem we're doing nothing about, if anything, the president took money away from central america. >> first of all, chuck, yeah,om there is se short-term detention, but we're in full catch and release. people aren't being detained for

mu more than, atmost, probably a couple weeks. so we're in full catch and release. there was a survey done by the association of research and social studies in kwaguatemala t aid a third of guatemalans intended to migrate to the united states. a gallup poll showed m 42llion people in latin america want to migrate to the united states. we can't take all s.comer we have to have a legal system, primarily designed toward working with our economy to get people in here to work so we cae contin to grow our economy. this is completely out of control. again, the goal of our policy should be to reduce the flow of people coming into this country illegally and turn that into a legal flow. >> i understand that, but you don't believe coming up with some sort of better plan for alntral america might actu be the best way to decrease the flow? >> well, that is a very long-term solution. it's given rise to drug cartels, done great harm to the public

institutions of central america. there's no doubt about it, we bear responsibility. that's not going to fix this problem in the here and now any time soon. i certainly want to see money flow to make sure we can safely return people. i'm working with demoat colleagues on a pilot program called operation safe return where we can rapidly and more accurately determine those families that clearl don'tve a valid asylum claim, and majority of them don't, and saly return them to central america. that will require some u.s. funding as well. there are also humanitarian organizations who are willing to facilitate that, but we have to have that consequence. in 2005, when a surge of brazilians were brought in, they reduced the flow in 90 days. that has to be our first step, reduce the flow,hen work long-term with central america to improve conditions down there. >> i want to turn to a little bit of politics. there's a book out called "american carnage" by tim alberta. there's some interesting paul ryan quotesou i'm curiof your reaction.

here's the excerpt. for a long stretch of the 2016 campaign, paul ryan refused to accept trump's take over the gop. he traversed the stages of grief. canial, no way trump can win. anger, i ed him a racist. and depression, this is fatal, he told reince priebus. before finally coming to terms withit. this resistance was grounded in a basic belief that the republican party was still his party. looking back, ryan says, he should have known better. you know wisconsin. you know ryan. you know trump. what do you make of this dispute? is this personal? is this a misread of where the party is? and where do you fit? >> ell, i consider paul ryan a friend. i've got a good working relationship with the president. i've always abided by the ronald reagan 11th commandment. i think we do need torealize, as republicans and conservatives -- >> president trump doe't abide by that. >> we need to hang together here. so i think we've accomplished a lot of good things the last few years. we have more competitive tax

sy em. that's produced more than 3% growth. ten times higher business investment. that's going to grow our economy in the future. again, from my standpoint, i'd like everybody to get along because we need to preserve this country, this marvel of the american economy and model of freedom. >> do you think president trump's criticism of speaker ryan and his speakership is warranted? well, again, would prefer that we all understand that the opponent in this political struggle are democrats and their growing socialism and what they would turn america into. so we need to hang together. i'd prefer nobody criticize each other on our side. >> all right. senator ron johnson, republican from wisconsin, i'm going to leave it there. thanks for coming on and sharing your views. much appreciated. >> have a great day. >> when we come back, those immiation raids starting today and the dete over the as a small business owner, the one thing you learn pretty quickly, is that there's a lot to learn. grow with goule is here to help yong with turni ideas into action. putting yourusiness on the map,

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welcome back. panel is here. former republican congressman carlos curbelo of florida, claire mccaskill of missouri, ll ha jackson, and tim alberta, author of "american carnage." tim, welcome and congratulations on the book. >> thank you. >> let me start before we get to some oftr that inamural politics in the republican party, i want to start with t i.c.e. raids happening today. here's what aouple mayors have said. the president said they are welcoming this. >> this fear mongering and making immigrants scapegoats and really disrupting families who are just here trying to live teir life, tha not who we are or should be asers. 's an idea being created not just in our immigrant community but with anyone who hasnd compassion a concern for human beings. >> and of course, the president is sort of bragging about these

raids. here's what he said about it. >> so if the word gets out, it gets out. it starts on sunday, and they're going to take people out and they're going to bring them back ctor timheinals out, put them in prison, or put them in prison in the countries they fme from. we'reused on criminals as much as we can before we do anything else. >> this is -- if you cared about this, why would you tell people? >> because the president likesg talkinout this. he knows it plays well with his base. cue the president's tweets to when he starts going after democratic mayors for talking negatively about his i.c.e. raids. there are people in the administration saying this has been grossly mismessaged. it's a concern, i think, for so people in the white house. >> tim, immigration in your book, i mean, it is probably the

greatest sort of fissure point in the republican party. >> that's right. and hallie have talked about this before. to use a basketball term, the president sees immigration as a high percentage shot. it's a slam dunk for him with his base. know, forem is that we a fact, that there were a lot of suburban traditional upscale republicans who voted for trump in 2016, who voted for a democrat in 2018. a lot of them did view immigration as that fissure point that begins to split the republican from the working class conservative republican. the president is playing with fire here because while he may rile up his folks, while he may mobilize that true believer base, he runs a real risk of alienating that broader coalition that he's going to need to win re-election. >> carlos, you represented part of a countyhat is part of that broader coalition the president cuban-americans,

venezuelan-americans, colombian-americans, at what idint do they not like this r business? >> yeah, there is a breaking point. south florida is different. a lot of the hispanic vote there looks outside the to foreign policy and that kind of determines their votes. however, there is a sense of th solidarity in e hispanic community and if you push too far on these enforceme policies, then you start losing those other hispanics who aren't directly impacted by them but certainly feel bad for families, the individuals hurt by this. the sad part is this is not the solution. the solution to this is to reform our immigration laws, to fix the entireme system. this is a political stunt, quite frankly. you wanted to conduct effective raids, why would you announce it? everyone is hiding no >> it's also out of character for this president, who for every law enforcement action or act taken, loves to talk about the element of surprise and ves to talk about ho well, i'm not going to preview what we're going to do because you'll pening.at's h in this instance, he did the opposite. >> claire, the immigration issue is probabl you lost in missouri. but i want you to react to

something here. the heritage foundation wrote the folwing. so the open borders enthusiasts need to rethink. amica is not a perfect nation, but it hasne pretty well by its immigrants over the past couple hundred years. everyone is welcome provided you come herega ley. it is a more sustainable ethos for a nation. how did democrats walk that line? >> i think they've got to betf respec of the fact that most americans, maybe not the far left segment of the democric party, but most americanth want e to be a process that's fair and legal. they do not like the idea that people can come -- because if you open the borders, then anybody cacome. i think what's interesting about this raid is they are supposedly going after criminals. in other words, people who have committed felonies. there's plenty of people who have come heret illegally tha have committed felonies that they could be busy with. you never announce that ahead of time. if somebody has committed a , felonyey know how to hide. so the notion that he's trying

to throw out this idea they're going afir crnals, as he announces they're doing it, just shows he's sending a secret message to his base that he thks all of them are criminals, which is not what america thinks. >> and i think there's a competency question. we have an acting homeland security who used to be the border patrol commissioner. there's an acting border patrol commissioner who used to be the acting i.c.e. director. the current acting i.c.e. director, it's the second time he's been the acting i.c.e. director. i'm going tput up a scroll of all the actings we have here. it's going to take a while. these aren't small agencies either. this competcy question. >> the president doesn't mind it, though, chuck. he thinks -- and based on my reporting, the president truly h believes he more flexibility when he has more all these acting positions in ple. th has aew acting position, obviously, with labor secretary, who just stepped down

two days ago. when i talk to folks in and around the white house, it's not necessarily homeland security. it's not necessarily dhs. t's the defense department still without a permanent defense secretary. that's a concern for the president's allies, for people who support him in and around washington. >> and really thumbing the nose at the constitution. these people are supposed to be confirmed. that's the way our founding fathers wrote the constitution. i'm so sick of some in your party, carlos, waving the constitution when a democrat is in office and completely ignoring the constitution when a republican is in office. >> and it's important to remember that even when there was not long list of actings, even in the earliest days of the administration when they rolled out theo-called muslim ban, there was no coordination between any of these partments. e white house had not given talking points to ybody to defend this when the president was at the pentagon executive order. even when they were fully staffed, this was still really messy. when you get to the third string, it's going to be worse. >> remember, that "a" team, not

everybody thought th was an "a" team then. carlos? >> just briefly, the other side of what tim said, because immigration is going to be a top issuin 2020, if the president can bait democrats into saying that the status quo is ce acable, that we should have open borders or that, like some are saying, that we should offer benefits and all sorts of public welfare benefitso those that are coming,ld thost democrats as well. i think there's potential peril for them as well. >> we'll pause it here. when we bame k, we're all pretty excited about our next guest. >> we have pink hair and purple hair. we have tattoos, dredlocks. we got white girls and black girls and everng in between. girls and everng in between. straight girls and gay carl, i appreciate the invite here. as my broker, what am i paying you to manage my money? it's racquetball time. (thumps) ugh! carl, does your firm offer a satisfaction guarantee? like schwab does. guarantee?

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this isy charge to everyone. we have to be better. we have to love more, hate less. we got to listen more and talk less. we got to know that this is everybody's responsibility. >> welcome back. that was megan rapinoe, who right now is bigger than lebron,

bigger than brady, bigger than just about anyone in the sports world and maybe beyond. rapinoe is co-captain and star of the u.s. women's national soccer team which just won the world cup again. but she's about much more than soccer. rapinoe has made news both for her fi women's soccer players and for her refusal to celebrate with her team at the white house. welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you. thank you for having me on. >> a long-time boxing reporter who's now a baseball announcer, charlisteiner, said to me he viewed you as a modern day ali. here's what "sports illustrated" oote. there are elementsf a modern-day ali manyrapinoe's co-mingling of sports and social act schism, to say nothing of her ability to turn the media's tention, even when negative, to certain circles. what do you make of the ali comparisons? >> that's very flattering. i don't know if i'm ali, but i'm happy to be the biggest ally akin to ali.

>> wt opportunity do you see here? it's like, okay, we got the attention. i am going to make these points. i am going to make do this activism. >> i think the opportunity is in everyone's exhaustion of the fighting and the negative, and our team has managed to make people proud again, to capture people's interest, and make them want to do something. i think people are asking the question, how can we rally around thi team? and in that, what the team stands for, whether it's equal pay racial equality or lgbtq rights, i think we've just ive people hope, and with that we need to do the next step, which is to actually take the progress step. >> let me go specifics with equal pay. i'm sort of surprised here that the corporate communities thatp sut the u.s. soccer federation have been so slow to see this, have been so slow to fill the gap. i know proctor & gambleame out today.

they've given an additional bonus to every member of the team. but i understand the way these deals are negotiated, and son-in-law thisome of this is the u.s. soccer federation, but are you disappointed in the way corporate america has handled this, your sponsors? >> yh, i think we can do a lot more, a lot more quickly. i think that it is a complicated issue, and think sometimes we get in the weeds about it. can't see the forest for the trees when, you know, big sponsors can just write the these are some of the most powerful corporations, not just in sports, but in the world and much weight they can throw around. i think they just need to get comfortable throwing it around. >> how much of this is you got to grow the game globally, by use way? beit does seem as if it's the westenaized tions who have supported women's sports first. >>. >> and that is perhaps made folks in the corporate community think, oh, there's not enougho people thererket to. >> no, i think that the global aspect is huge. even just in the last three or four years, to seehe way that other federations have succeeded

with their teams on the field. they'v thrown money behind them and, shocker, those teams are better. >> it's good it was harder this time, right? no offense to the other teams, but it was a little harder. that's good for the game.s >> it'eat for the game. i think it allows us to put so much more pressure on fifa as well, to mandate that these federations have the money to pay their programs and to mandate that fifa and to pusll them reato do more. >> you were talking about that you see an opportunity here to preach a message ofit i think the hardest conundrum a lot of us arein, in american politics, whether it's those of us that care about these institutions or otherwise, how do you preachni uty and at the same time you don't wantbe to near president trump, and i get that. how do you do both? >> i'm figuring that out by the day. i think you inspire people. >> what do you tell a trump supporter who loves watching you and is like, i wish she'd go to

the white house? >> i think i would, you know, y to share our message. do you believe all people are created equa do you believe equal pay should be mandated? do you believe everyone should have health care? do you believe we should treat everyone wit respect? i think those are the basics of what we're talking about. and i understand people feel upset or uncomfortable. there's, i think, some feelings of disspect about the anthem protest or things i've said in the past. but ultimately, i thi i am here open and honest. i've admitted mistakes. i will continue to do that. i will continue to be vulnerable and be honest and be open and want to have that conversation because i think trump's message excludes peoplkethat look li me and are me, of course, but it excludes a lot of people in his base as well. i think that he's trying to divide so he can conquer, not unite so we can all conquer. >> anything he could do to change your mind about a visit to the white house? >> there's like 50 policy issues that we can probably reverse and

get going. i mean, it would take a tremendous amount. i think i understand that progress is sometimes slow, and i'll never close any do all the way, but i think it would take more than trump is willing to do. >> what are you going to do next? you want to keep playing? give us one more worl? cup would you at all entertain professionalizing your social activism, perhaps running for office or something else? >> i do continue to keep playing. i'm not sure i'm qualified for office. >> there's no qualifications for office these days. >> well, yeah, that's up to 44, i guess there was. you know, i'm going to fight for equal pay eve day for myself, for my team, and for every single person out there, man, woman, immigrant, u.s. citizen, person of color, whatever it may be. equal pay, as the sreatena williams said, until i'm in my grave. >> were you about 11 or 12 when

brandy chastain and that moment of, guess what, girls can go crazy and celebrate too. what do you hope the 12-year-old girl, a bunch of them in the audience today, thinks about 20 years from now in remembering you and what you gave to the sport? >> i hope the same thing i felt. i think in that moment, it was just an incredible explosion of joy. it was so them bridled, so off the cuff. it was just everything that you want from sports. you wantat just those moments th are totally indescribable. i hope they feel inspired that they can do that, that they can take on more, that they're worth every penny and more, and that they have fun and with a smile doing it. >> well, you have fun. you always have a smile on your face. >> that is true. >> it's beenng great meeti you. you have a lot of humility. i have to sayhat. megan rapinoe, good luck to you. we're rooting for you. get us another world cup too. >> yeah, another one. five is better than four. >> always.

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back now with "end game." a lot of intraparty politics and divides, it seems, this week. let's start with pelosi v. aoc. himaureen dowd started t last week. then brings the house down. in the age of trump, there's no more stupid proposition than that nancy pelosi is the

problem. if aoc and her pygmalions and acolytes decide that burning down the house is more important than deposing trump, they'll be left with a racist, backward president an the emotional satisfaction of their own >> yeah. i think the thing that really set me off this week washem going after davids. this is the first native american woman elected to congress. s the second openly lesbian member of congress in history. she represents kansas from a district that has been held by the republicans for cycle after cycle after cycle. she took out an incumbentan republic congressman. the notion that they're going after her and playing the race card, what are thenky thig? i mean, what the hell are they thinking this is a situation where i appreciate the passion, and i appreciate the point of view and i appreciate the debate, but we have got to come together and stay fixed on the goal here and

remain pragmatic abo how we win in 2020. >> you sound like ron johnson. ron johnson said the same wouldn't take the bait there. carlos -- >> don't say i sound like ron johnson. i please don't s sound like ron johnson. >> what's interesting here is this -- are you having boehner flashbacks with the mark meadows and jim jordans? is that what we're seeing here? although, t i feel like freedom caucus had more followers than aoc does. >> well, for now. butnancy pelosi sees this coming. she saw john boehner suffer. she saw paul ryan suffer with a difficult ement in their caucus. and she is doing everything possible to prevent it. she knows that it's a threat to her majority makers. she knows that it could make her caucus ungovernable. that's not good for any leader. so that's why we see her coming out very aggressively, where boehner and especially ryan were more laid back about dealing with some of their more difficult members. >> tim, what d adviceo you think ryan would be giving pelosi right now? he seems to have a lot of opinions about how he failed.

i mean, he basically is admitting he failed. >> yeah. the parallels are actually prunty anny between that tea party wave in '10 and this progressive wave in '18. although, it is worth noting, progressives weren't the majority maker. furthermore, the republican wave in 10 was not just in congress. it was in state legislatures across the country that allowed them to consolidate power, redraw these lines. that allowed a broader portion of the republican base to move to the right in seeking elected office. aoc has to realize that if it weren't for these 40 democrats picking up these suburban held, traditionally republican seats, that they don't have the majority right now. and that's obviously the message pelosi has been trying to push, but she's going to have a hard time keeping the lid on this thing. >>ha ie, this directly plays into what we're seeing in the presidential primary of warren and biden. >> yes, and i think you phrased it earlier with senator sanders, theer insider/outsidiece. you're seeing that writ large on

the debate stage. you're seeing it here. to your point, senator, you may -- a republicans may not want to talk about the intraparty back and forth. guess who does want to talk about it, donald trump. president trump loves this. it plays directly into what he's tweeting this morning. your book, yourot excerpts g under his skin, i'm told, based on my reporting. the president was tweeting about kevin mccarthy, for example, and homuch more he likes him. the president will focus on this issue with alexandria ocasi ocasio-cortez, with speaker pelosi because he thinks it wins him points. he htes this talk about republicans not supporting him, the never trump movement. now he has an opportunity to say, look, democrats have their own problems too. c >> claire,ck this out. the democratic presidential pray mire is a tale of two my prayers. among moderates a conservatives, which make up 45% of the electorate, joe biden is up 20 points. take a look here. kaonla harris in sec under the moderate/conservative category. the other three in single digits. among liberals, 53% of the party

call themselves liberals, and look at this. warren by double digits. add up bernie sanders, if she eventually grabs more of the sanders' support or vice versa. going. see where this i we're going to have a clash at some point here between the leading moderate and the leading liberal. what does is mean for the party? >> i think a lot of it is how they communicate with members of the democratic party. you know, de, sweeping structural change, how do you do that under our constitution if you only have 49 votes in the senate? how do you do that? you can't do that by executive order. so there is a disconnect between what is possible and what is pragmatic. and i think that whoever wins ournomination needs to stay focused on those voters that are going to decide this election.d an they're not in the bronx. >> is elizabeth warren startin-- to at least o you think she has the ability to bridge this divide? sanders it feels like has less

of a chance. does warren? >> well, i don't know. warren keeps talking about this massivndstructural change, a i keep thinking, how does she do this? right? and i think voters willly eventualegin thinking about that. i do think that any of the top five have the ability to to focus more on some of those voters that make up almost half of the democratic primary that are so into joe biden right now because they see him as steady as s goes, someone who will bring normalcy back to the oval office. that's a really important thing he has going for him, right? >> and somcohat terintuitive, but in a way, biden is the change candidate. the party that's challenging the incumbento president haske a compelling case for change. joe biden is probably the candidate on the left that is most different than donald trump. joe biden is vanilla, andni vaa would be a change to the presidency today. it's interesting. there's this argument that, okay, he won with disruption. democrats need to be more disruptive. >> that's not change.

>> but does theountry -- you know, is warren seen as more disruption in a weird way? do you buy that? >> kind of. listen, i think that if elizabeth warren ends up being the democratic party nominee, there's going to be some, frankly, celebrations at least from what i'm told inside the trump campaign who believes that she is somebody they could beat easily. there's not that sense wh joe biden. and that's evidenced by the president going after him so directly and so frequently. there are others in this race who could be problematic for president trump, like senator kamala harris, who got a second look by this trump campaign. we'll see what happens. >> harris is the one candidate who's in third among liberals, third among -- you know, is she the one that's got the porridge that everybody is comfortable with? >> as you look through the polling, talk to the campaigns and study the strategies of their races, harris would seem to be the one person, if she can put it together who could build that coalition, whereas you

struggle to see it with some of the others. >> claire, meganapinoe. what do you think? >> i think she's fantastic. i was struck how humble she is. >> so was i >> you know what's really refreshing? listen, acosta the last couple weeks, i've admitted on these cameras a numberf times, i'd love to have that vote back. i regret that vote. it was a mistake. i love that she admits her mistakes. e hasn't done it all right. everything she said hasn't been perfect. but you get her heart and her heart is in the right place, and she will do more to move the needle on equal pay than all of the democratic women in congress. >> if nike hasn't filled the gap by ,now i don't know -- they're not the nike i thought they were. >> that was a wonderful interview. i thjoyed it. i k she should go to the white house. i think she should show the country that we can talk to each other, that we can meet, and that we can disagree. but refusing to talk to each other, refusing to meet, that's going to -- >> guess what, we can always talk here. and we are hay to host her here. soathere. all we have for today. tim, congratulations othe

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