tv Face the Nation CBS March 6, 2016 10:30am-11:00am EST
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chairman of the republican party, reince priebus. and with hillary clinton's wins this week she's turning her attention to donald trump. plus a look at what is coming up in michigan on tuesday with new cbs news brattle ground tracker numbers. hair-raising campaign all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning welcome to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson. we sat down with donald trump at his home in palm beach shortly before the polls closed last night. mr. trump you're bringing a lot of new people in to the republican party, some people are saying they want to leave the republican party. what is your message to those who want to live. good riddance? >> they shouldn't leave. they should get together and i think everybody should be unified and frankly we're building up numbers that are incredible within the republican party. you've been seeing whether it's south carolina or new hampshire, the numbers are astronomical. and i don't think they have ever seen anything like this.
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democrats are losing. the democrats it is going down 35 and we're going up 50%. couple of states over 100%. >> dickerson: what do you make of the effort to try to take the nomination away from you? maybe even by going to the convention? >> i'm very surprised by it. i'm very surprised hear about a third party because i'm going to appoint conservative judges. i thought that would mean that hillary would win or whoever is going to be running. you're going to have liberal judges probably as many as four or even five if you can believe that during this period of time. so, a third party means absolutely they will have four or five very liberal judges appointed as opposed to four or five very conservative judges. i think it's really playing with fire. >> dickerson: they say they can't be in party with you. >> i don't understand that. i get along with people. i'm a unifier, i'm very much a unifier maybe people don't see that but they will see that. my relationship to people has been great over the years. but again i'm new to politics. i've been doing this now for
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i think i've done very good job in seven months. we have a tremendous number of people coming in and a tremendous number of people showing up to vote. the lines in all of these states that i've won have been record setting. >> dickerson: let moo me ask you about unifier in this very room big night on super tuesday you said about paul ryan, that you hope get along with him but if you didn't, quote, he's going to have to pay a big price. also asked about john mccain he has to be very careful. how can you be a unifier when you're saying those kind of things? >> i think you would pay big price, you have a split party. he's done good job -- i may be more conservative than him i'm stronger on the border than him. but he's done a very good job, very much in fair of paul ryan because i think he did up as a unifier. he was chosen for that reason. >> dickerson: lot of people read that as a threat. >> it's not a threat. dickerson: let moo ask you
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when we talked last week you shade general hayden was wrong then he said that military wouldn't follow you on the question of waterboarding and on the killing of terrorist families. in the debate you said if i say do it, they are going to do it. talking about the military. on friday you said i will not order our military to violate the laws. >> you never asked me 'built violating laws in all fairness we were talking about -- i would say this. we have an enemy in the middle east that is chopping off heads and massive drownings. they don't play by the laws, they're laughing at us right now. i would like to strengthen the laws so that we can better compete. it's very tough to beaten piece that don't have any -- don't have any restrictions, all right? we have these massive restrictions. now i will abide by the law but i would like to have the law expanded. i would like -- >> dickerson: how? >> i'd like to -- i happen to think that when you're fighting an enemy that chops off heads, i happen to think this we should
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than we have right now. right now basically waterboarding is essentially not allowed as i understand it. >> dickerson: ud would like it to be. >> i would certainly like it to be at minimum -- at minimum to allow that. >> dickerson: why do you think we don't have waterboarding -- >> i think we have become very weak and ineffective that's why not we're in the beating isis. >> dickerson: you think people got rid of the law to be weak? >> no. i think that we are weak. i think we're weak. we cannot beat eyes. we should beat isis very quickly. general at that time ton would have had them down. we are playing by a different set of rules. we are -- let me just put it differently. when isis people chop off the heads go back to their homes and they talk, and they hear we're talking about waterboarding like it's the worst thing they just drowned a hundred people and chopped off 50 heads, they must think we are a little bit on the weak side. >> dickerson: the reason that
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reasons but one was because worry was that if america does that then our soldiers, american hostages will be treated even worse that's the argument, what do you think that have? >> killing ourselves when they capture them. they're doing that anyway. if that were the case, we won't do it you don't do it but we're not playing by those -- did somebody tell isis, we're going to treat your guys well would you please do us favor treat our guys well? they don't do that. we're not playing by -- we are playing by rules but they have no rules. it's very hard to win. >> dickerson: that would separate us from the savages. >> we have to beat the savages. dickerson: there for throw all the rules out. >> we have beat the savages. dickerson: by being savages. >> you have to play the game the way they're waying the plame. you're not going to win if we are soft and they are -- they have no rules. >> dickerson: how? >> do all that have within the laws, but i think we have to increase the laws because the laws are not working obviously or r all you have to do take
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and they're getting worse. they're chopping, chopping, chopping, we're worried about waterboarding. i just think it's -- i think our priorities are mixed up. >> dickerson: another topic. paul ryan this week said, quotef a person wants to be nominee of the republican party there can be no evasion and no games. they must reject any group or cause that is built on bigotry. >> but i have rejected. how many times do i have to reject. ivory corrected david duke. i have rejected the kkk, the ku klux klan from the time i'm five years old i rejected them. i put it on twitter last week. how many times -- amazing things with twitter i have more than six million, i have another six million with facebook like 14 million with instagram. when i put out a minor message, everybody picks it up. donald trump did -- let me explain. when i put out that i reject the kkk and david duke, nobody picks it up.
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they don't want. to you pick it up. everyoneless picks it up. you saw. practically at the same time. they don't want to pick it up. i have been asked this question so many times, i have rejected it so many times, in fact -- >> dickerson: what do you think of ryan saying that, that's my question. >> i was -- i don't know, he's getting lot of his information from you guys. so when i tweet about the rejection, right after that show ended because maybe i wasn't clear or something. how many times do i have to say it. forget i told cnn when chris christie endorsed me, very good endorsement, one of the questions -- my question was, i reject it there at news conference was like day before. how many times did i have to reject or disavow. >> dickerson: let me ask you this, david duke saying to his supporters and followers, vote for donald trump, white supremacist, do you want though votes? >> i don't want them. i can't help if he says it f. he says it, but i don't want it and
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johnf he says it he says it, okay. do i want it, no. >> dickerson: you don't want the supporters? >> i don't like any group of hate. hate groups are not for me. i said this before. the press hates me to say it. they just don't want to pick it up. >> dickerson: you are thinking more about the general election, in december of last year you said, talking about hillary clinton, you said we view this as war. then you asked the audience, don't we view this as word? do you view it as war? >> a little bit, yeah. highly competitive. last person she wants to run against is me, i can tell that you. i know that. sort of interesting one of your competitors said, i know that hillary clinton wants to run against donald trump. i called him i said, here is the story. if they say they want to run against me that means they don't want to run against me. do you understand that? because that's the way -- it's like game of chess. but i know for a fact, you know
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wants to run against is me. i've won numerous polls against hillary and i haven't started on hillary. only one brief moment. because that have moment, hillary went way, way down and bernie got credit for it. they said he was running a great campaign. had i not had -- she not given me that moment with her and bill, bernie would not be nearly as close. bernie is not going to win, anyway. but she went way down in that period of time. and the last person she wants to run against is me i will tell you i will beat her. i beat her in a lot of polls as you know but people don't say that. >> dickerson: all right, mr. trump, leave it there, we've run out of time. >> thank you very much. dickerson: democrats held contests in three states. senator bernie sanders won cautions in kansas and nebraska. former secretary of state hillary clinton won in louisiana. secretary clinton joins thus morning from detroit. secretary clinton, you know what it's like to be in a tough delegate battle the last time around.
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doou think there's anything wrong with bernie sanders stays in this fight all the way to the end? >> well, you think that's up to him, john. i'm just is very pleased where my campaign is right now. i was really gratified by the results yesterday. we're feeling good about the upcoming contests. and i really put together a great broad coalition that i think is the key to winning in november against whoever the republican nominate. >> dickerson: the republicans seem to have all the enthusiasm, more people are turning out for their primary process, much more than democrats. won't that hurt in the battle in november? >> well, i don't know exactly what that means. i've gotten more votes than anybody running on either side. i've gotten more votes than donald trump, although i'm sure he doesn't want to hear that.
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in fact i've gotten in the democratic primary election, i've gotten more white voters except for the state of vermont, all told i've had nor support from white voters. i feel really good about where our campaign is and where it's going. >> dickerson: in places like ohio and massachusetts, there are reports of democrats switching over, changing their registration, becoming republicans to vote for donald trump aren't those voters you're going to want back and how do you get them back? >> well, i want to get every voter back. i'm going to keep working during this primary to earn every vote. and to make it clear that i'm running and inclusive campaign, want to knock down barriers for all americans not just some of them. and i hope that as we move forward people will be giving second, third look to all the candidates and that includes me. it includes mr. trump. i'm going to keep reaching out
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if people are frustrated, discouraged, upset by what's happening in the economy or the government or political system, that i've come ready prepared to do what's necessary to make progress. i think that's a very strong case. >> dickerson: let me ask you question about something that was in the news this week. brian pagliona was granted immunity from prosecution in the criminal investigation into your e-mail server. when this happened i talked to democrats they worry that somebody is going to get indicted. >> well, there is no basis for that, it's a security review i'm delighted that he had agreed to cooperate as everyone else has. and i think that we'll be moving toward a resolution of this. >> dickerson: you see this as good news? >> yeah, i do. absolutely. i think we're getting closer and closer to wrapping this up.
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reports today about hundreds of officials and thousand e-mails that they were sending back and forth that have been looked at and classified retroactively. this really raises serious questions about this whole process i think. colin powell sums it up well when he was told that some of his e-mails from more than ten years ago were going to be retroactively classified. he called it an absurdity. i'm hoping we'll get through this then everybody can take hard look at the inner agency disputes and arguments over retroactive classification. i'm the one that asked that all my e-mails be made public. i've been more transparent than anybody i can think of in public life. but it's also true that when something is made public fresh across the government gets to here. we need to get it sorted out and then take action from there. >> dickerson: let me ask you
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week in the "new york times" on libya. in it former secretary of defense robert gates said that president obama set that decision whether to take action in libya was 51-49 decision, secretary gates gave you credit for putting the president on 591% side of the line. in other words, taking action in libya. does that square with your view of the way things happened? >> well, it was the president's decision. and i think he listened to everybody just as he did when we were involved intense review of intelligence as to whether or not the president should order action to go after bin laden. these decisions are obviously ultimately the president's. i think we should remember where we were, the kinds of threats and actions that gadhafi was taking, i have to say that when i look at this, and absent of action by nato, by arab league
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libya into syria, which i think would have been even more dangerous situation. so, we all give our best judgment. i respect everybody who i worked with in the obama administration and then ultimately we make our recommendations to the president. >> dickerson: some people say it's not so much that syria may be -- but it isn't so good right now. >> well, no, it's not good. i'm not saying that it is. but it's sure better than syria, i think maybe 1500 people were killed last year compared to probably 150,000 in syria. but what is happening is a very concerted effort led by the u.n., supported by united states, europe and others to try to create a unity government in libya. enabling the people of libya to get what they voted for, john, i keep reminding people of this. they have ha held two elections, they voted for moderates, they
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for a path forward that has been disrupted because of the inner -- interference of outside sources as well as internal squabbles. this has only been a few years i think we've got to really work hard to help the libyans achieve the goals that they have set out for. of a ii all gadhafi hallowed out their country, they were left with basically nothing. not a functioning army, no the a functioning government, et cetera. we've got work to do. but i actually am slightly hopeful that they will all realize they're going to do better if they work together. they stand against terrorist elements, we will support them, others will as well. >> dickerson: secretary clinton we're out of time. thanks so much. we'll be back in a minute.edict... the market. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your investments through good times and bad. for over 75 years, our clients have relied on us to bring our best thinking to their investments so in a variety of market conditions... you can feel confident...
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a gathering of republicans outside of washington. your political path, is it to win the nomination the delegates out right or just deny get to cleveland figure it out there. >> we're campaigning to win. i will say any time you hear people talking about a brokered convention, i think that is the fevered talk of the washington establishment. the washington establishment is in a panic, they're confused, they don't understand what's happening. and their favored candidates, are not getting the votes. but if a bunch of washington deal makers try to step in in a brokered convention and steal the nomination we'll have a manifest uprising. if you want to beat donald trump, i don't think donald trump is the right nominee to go up against hillary clinton. if you want to beat him, you got to beat him at the ballot box our campaign is only campaign that demonstrated we can do so over and over. >> dickerson: do you think something illegitimate abut trying to have a brokered convention?
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washington deal makers and lobbyists who want to parachute in their preferred candidate because they don't like what the voters are doing, i think that is illegitimate i think it's wrong. reagan used convention to try to beat gerald ford. there wasn't anything -- >> but there's a difference there when that's come from the people when it's a battle of the people. a lot of people pushing brokered convention in washington don't want it to be based on the people they want to drop in their favorite candidate and try to stifle the will of the people. i think that would be enormous mistake. >> dickerson: let moo me ask you about what the contest coming up, michigan, ohio, florida, how are you going to do well in those states when you had trouble in alabama, arkansas, georgia, tennessee. >> well, listen you say we have trouble we earned delegates in just about everyone of those states. we did very well. we were not expected to win based on the poll of where we are.
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a kind. a year ago, he changed the rules. we had 17 candidates a year ago. what we have seen in the field is field narrowed dramatically i think coming out of super tuesday, what super tuesday demonstrated is that if you don't think donald is the right candidate to go up against hillary clinton, there's one campaign that is has beat him not once, but five times. that is our campaign. we beat him overwhelmingly in iowa. beat him in oklahoma, in alaska, we beat him in minnesota and overwhelmingly in my home state of texas. had has anybody approached you about any kind of alliance to stop trump? >> i'm having the conversations with all sorts of people, what we're seeing supporters from other candidates coming and joining us whether they were with jeb bush, whether they were with chris christie, whether they were with ben carson or been with marco rubio or rand paul. we're seeing people come together because they recognize that their candidates were not in position beat donald and if
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hillary wins, we lose the supreme court for generation. we lose the bill of rights. we lose the senate. >> dickerson: any of these conversations in terms of jointly acting to deny him not coming together. >> my focus is very simple. it is winning 1237 delegates to be the republican nominee. we're on a path to do so. coming out of super tuesday fewer than a hundred delegates separate donald trump and me. as much as the media wants to just have coronation, and listen, frankly, one of the reasons media wants donald to be the nominee, is because media knows donald can't win the general that hillary with wallop him. the person that hillary clinton can beat all of the attacks on donald as media not talking about now, you better believe come september, october, novemberf he were the nominee, every day on the nightly news would be taken donald apart. the stakes are too high for us to -- >> dickerson: the media thought he wasn't going to get this far that's hardly --
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but let's be clear. the media has given donald trump hundreds of millions of dollars of free advertising, when you put -- whenever press conference carried live on every television station and you essentially have a massive in kind contribution from the media that helped create this phenomenon. then i think awful lot of reporters -- i can't tell you how many media outlets i hear, have this great expose on donald, on different aspects of his business dealings, his past, they say, you know what, we're going to hold it to june or july. not going to run it now -- >> dickerson: more the r reporters have told you that? >> i'm not going to out media outlets but i can tell you there is so much there -- when was the last time people are bringing up his tax returns, for example. we had debate last night, didn't hear a word about tax returns. >> dickerson: you brought it up. >> i could have, i do often. but as mitt romney rightly observed fact that donald won't hand over suggest threats a bombshell in it.
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not raising the question ever what donald trump told the "new york times" editorial board, the reports are -- >> dickerson: the journalist brought it up which give you the platform to talk about it, sure low they are, plus he wrote about it. >> i promise you come the general election, that will be the singular focus of the media. i think republicans, we've been burned by that before, we're not interested in losing again, particularly when the stakes i think are catastrophic. >> dickerson: we'll have more of our in city view with ted cruz in our next half hour. stay with us. and can you explain why you recommend synthetic over cedar? "super food?" is that a real thing? it's a great school, but is it the right one for her? is this really any better than the one you got last year? if we consolidate suppliers, what's the savings there? so should we go with the 467 horsepower? ...or is a 423 enough? good question. you ask a lot of good questions... i think we should move you into our new fund. sure... ok.
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