>> announcer: from nbc news, this is "today" with kathie lee gifford and hoda kotb. live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. ?? >> hey, everybody. you made it. happy wednesday. winesday wednesday. hoda likes to call it hump day. september 28. that's "act like you don't" by brook eden. >> i haven't heard that. i like it already. >> yeah. >> we have a great show. two lovely and talented stars are here. hilary duff and debbie mazar from "younger" which we happen to have a cameo in tonight.

>> we call that home cooking. >> yeah, baby. we're honored. >> we are. >> then it is the best-selling novel that sold 15 million copies. now "the girl on the train," one of the most anticipated movies of the year. we're going to catch up with one of the very hunky stars, luke evans. >> you got to see it. >> i did. >> stop it. >> i'll tell you in a minute. if that's not hunk enough, what else do we have? >> il divo. >> they have a bunch. >> they are the international singing sensation. they bring love and passion and sex appeal to our studio. >> yeah. >> then the recovering spender lauren grutman is back to help you like she helped herself. she knows what she's talking about. get out of debt. she'll answer the questions you have been sending in. >> would you like words of wisdom? >> before you hear about "the girl on the train," yeah. >> here we go, may your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears. that's nelson mandela. >> excellent. >> isn't that a beautiful one? >> excellent. >> can i give a shout out to an event i went to last night? >> yeah. >> there was a great nascar

last night where they help kids who are sick. it is a great thing, the first time it's been in new york city. they were honoring mark lazarus. he's one of our -- >> sports but now just had a big promotion. >> that's mark and his gorgeous, adorable wife. danica patrick was there. it was one of those really wonderful events. they honored some great people of nascar. i told the crowd i'd share a picture. there they are. >> we meant to take a picture yesterday but we didn't. >> yes. >> we want to thank louis licari la, la, la, la for taking us to lunch yesterday. in all the years we have been working together just this past year he's come to my house for dinner one night. we went to lunch yesterday, went to michael's. we had a lovely time. we love you, louis. >> we do. >> licarus/cutler salons. >> shall i tell you about the movie? >> yes, please. >> cassidy is home. so i watched with her. we only had it linked.

that everybody is talking about. >> only could watch on her computer. for all 15 million of you that loved the book there is the fear that the movie is not going to be as good. i liked the book. i didn't love the book, but i liked it. it kept me. >> page turner. >> but i loved the movie. the movie is incredible. and emily blunt is so good in everything. but she is spectacular -- >> what? >> -- as rachel in this. everybody is so well cast. taught, gripping. when you already know the story and what's going to happen, that's saying a lot. right? >> right. you loved it more than the book? nobody ever says that! >> well, i did. i just did. not everybody will agree. >> so excited. >> that was just me. >> i can't wait to see it. we'll talk about the movie later today, too. >> yeah. >> if you were tuned in to "the voice" last night -- by the way,

night. i tivo'd it so don't tell me what happened. >> i'm dying to see it. >> often in "the voice" the great thing about the chair turn is you see the voice and don't see the person and sometimes they don't match. >> i love that. >> last night michael sanchez shocked everybody. take a listen and then look at the judges' reaction. ?? ? just use me ? ? use me, baby ? ? oh, use me ? ? come on and use me up ? [ cheers and applause ] ?? >> i can't believe! >> michael, dude. >> what? >> i thought there was a very large beard waiting for me when i turned around. >> i thought it was for sure a 60-plus-year-old black man.

>> oh, my good. >> it's rick moranis. >> wow! >> rick moranis. >> that was good. there was another contestant named darby walker who had a really great night. blake, alicia and miley all turned for her. so, let's see what happened. ? jolene ? ? jolene ? ? jolene ? ? please don't take him even though you can ? ? no one ? ? no one ? ? can get in the way of what i feel for you ? >> the difference is -- this is what alicia does. she's right here in your eyes. okay. >> who'd she pick? >> they sang the duet. now we're going to see who she picked.

because -- >> she picked miley. >> yeah. wow. >> we don't have that. so sad. out of time. but anyway, how authentic is it when so many people are told that you're the best? you know what i mean? >> it's weird when watching the show. there's no one like you. i feel -- everybody says that. so imagine -- >> you want to be chosen as the mentor. >> as the coach. >> imagine first you were chosen by miley, alicia, blake, whomever and then another person come up and they do the exact same thing. we love you. we're connected like soul mates. wait, i thought i was your soulmate. >> here's the thing, lots of people in life you can enjoy and date, but you shouldn't marry them all. you know what i'm saying? >> exactly. >> remember, we had the youth -- kids voice a couple years ago. >> oh, god. >> it was hard to tell small children tough stuff. i remember thinking i don't want to fall in love yet because i haven't set the bar yet. i don't know -- you know? >> yeah. >> if you said you're great and

given yourself away. >> part of the reason -- >> like sex. >> what? >> sometimes that's the only way to get her attention. have you all noticed? you've noticed. you've been watching for nine long years now. >> can you believe -- >> sex. >> you're really funny. >> nothing makes her happier. we're going to get our windsor wish, okay? >> yeah. middleton have been photographed. doesn't canada look beautiful? it's like they're on a set. >> it does. >> they're not. they are just in beautiful canada for the royal visit. >> "the daily mail" wanted to take a different look at the royals. so they decided to have a body language expert take a look at some of the photos. the consensus is they are very much in love. appears to be genuine, not forced. they say this is the proof they found in looking at photos.

man are sympatico by this. when seated, kate often puts her hand on william's knee. her knees are crossed toward him, not away. their eye contact -- oh! it's strong. >> you can always tell. >> they hold each other's gaze. >> they enjoy a moment. a very public thing but they stop to gaze and say, isn't this cool? >> yes, you're right. >> they are sharing the moment together. >> when they stand at public appearances she often maintains physical contact. look how her hand is in the crook of the elb. >> it's considered a gentle and intimate pose. >> yeah. >> conversely, this is how you know if a couple is having trouble. >> let me cross your legs toward you. >> mine are always toward you. >> mine are fatter. go ahead. >> the university of toronto studied body language and this is what they found out, while standing or sitting next to each other you turn your torso away from the person. like, hi, kath. >> hey. >> you have to face each other,

in other words, if we have to face each other -- >> yeah. >> we have stuff in front of us like this. >> okay. >> drinks, cards, things. blocks. >> okay. you not only say no but you also shake your head as if to reiterate and confirm it. >> no. >> no! >> by the way, if someone says yes but goes like this -- >> they're lying. >> and sometimes you don't realize when you do it, are you hungry? wait. how do you do it? >> yes. no. no. forget it. >> sex. >> can we say hi to two people back there? >> sure. >> if you wouldn't mind. melissa and peggy are visiting our set. melissa is a longtime viewer of nbc and peggy is with her. the dynamic duo. >> great to see you. >> can we show the baby i love you. we have a second. let's show it real quick. >> 3-month-old. >> you wonder if a 3-month-old

[ baby cooing ] >> i love you! oh, my god. [ baby sounds ] >> i love you! >> it's close! >> i heard it. >> clear as day. >> that was great. great show. >> special day. you will find out why. >> "younger" star hilary duff has come to play and debbie mazar, too.

he's got traditional leading man good looks but there is nothing traditional about the roles luke evans likes to take on. >> he's played a dragon slayer to a sociopath. who isn't? now he's a husband suspected of murder in "the girl on the train." >> the film is based on the no the number one bestselling novel, one of the most anticipated movies of the year. luke plays scott hipwell, he's the husband of a slain woman who finds himself in another woman's tangled web of lies. take a look. >> you're tom's crazy ex. were you going to tell me that? huh? now the detective is asking if you and i are in a relationship. you? i would never even get near someone like you.

what's wrong with you? >> i'm scared of you. >> he's over here saying, he's not a bad guy. >> trying to defend the guy. yeah. >> welcome. >> hi. >> hey! >> congratulations on the film. i don't always agree with critics. we haven't had reviews or anything. my daughter and i were riveted to it. just riveted last night. >> i can't imagine the pressure given that the book was such a runaway success. have preconceived notions of the movie. did you read it before -- >> no, i didn't. you have to live under a rock to not be aware of the phenomenon of the book, but i read the script first and then i read the book after that. >> yeah. >> i tried to go into a book shop late at night the day it was announced and picked it up quietly. the guy passed the book over and said, i'm a little surprised you haven't read it yet. >> how true to the book is the movie? >> i would say it's quite loyal. you've read the book, right?

to tell. >> very complicated. >> tate somebody? >> tate taylor directed. >> oh, okay. >> really, really beautifully directed. >> have you worked with emily blunt before? >> i haven't. i love emily. she's a wonder. she's a true -- a real talent. this role is difficult to pull off. i mean, she's inebriated, hung over, not very likable throughout most of the film and she's the leading lady. >> she's a troublemaker. >> she's a real troublemaker. she causes problems for a lot of peoplelu >> do you know who she reminds me of? because i've been around a long, long, time. when i first saw meryl streep. >> right. >> this face that can be completely different from the face -- it's the same face but she's -- >> totally, yes. >> she's a young meryl streep. >> she really is. she's as versatile. >> where did you shoot this? >> we shot it in west chester, white plains. >> up the street. >> just up the street so i got to live in manhattan. >> beautiful. beautiful.

>> that's a fast turnaround. >> very fast. >> especially fast turnaround for a book on the bestseller list two and a quarter years ago. >> and i shot "beauty and the beast" before that. it's still not out. >> you're gaston in that. >> i am. >> he's got horns and all the -- what is it? ? all of my decorating ? that's the one. >> is there a welshman that cannot sing? >> i can name a few. >> ira but he's not. >> what about -- ? what's new pussy cat ? >> we love a bit of tom. >> a bit of tom. >> we love a lot of tom. >> everybody does. >> hoda, you're going to go crazy for this. >> have you seen it? >> i haven't seen it yet. you have a crazy twitter following. you tweeted i'm coming and the avalanche of people. >> the luke-ateers they call themselves. >> they're crazy about you.

you don't know sociopathic until you know us. >> i have seen you drink wine at 9:00 a.m. >> 3:00 in the morning. don't judge. >> where's mine? >> you could have asked. >> "the girl on the train" hits theaters october 7th. >> it's amazing. okay. you will be feeling older when we take you back to the '70s with a game of who knew. >> first how about a little "younger" with hilary duff and debi mazar after this. red 97! set! red 97! yes. you know, that reminds me of geico's 97% customer satisfaction rating. 97%? helped by geico's fast and friendly claims service. huh... oh yeah, baby. geico's as fast and friendly as it gets. woo!

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between the two of them, debi mazar and hilary duff appeared in over 150 tv shows and films. >> currently the two talented actresses star alongside each other in the tvland series we love "younger." >> the show follows sutton

40-year-old divorced mom leading a double life as a 26-year-old book publisher in new york. >> debi plays liza's best friend maggie who knows the secret and her true age. >> hillary plays liza's millennial co-worker who thinks liza is really in her 20s. >> this year youcan expect twists and turns. hey, ladies. >> hey. >> it is a special day because it is hilary duff's birthday and debi wore lots of cleavage in >> serving it to me this morning. >> we were talking about this with sutton. this show started off as a little -- >> a sleeper. >> all of a sudden it picked up steam and turned into a tvland hit. >> right, i know. i think we're so lucky. the first season, did anybody see the show? are you going to make it. >> you're working so hard.

they really let it grow and develop. everybody's got great stuff going on this season. >> same thing happened with "hot in cleveland." >> yeah. >> and everybody said, a scripted series for tv. good for them. >> and "seinfeld" started slow they always said and picked up steam. right? >> they're not old enough -- >> they don't care. >> i love "seinfeld." >> what can we expect this season? >> we're very curious. >> liza will get in more trouble. she has a hot trio thing, two men. she's basically a slut right now. >> she's lucky. >> she's not married. >> right, exactly. >> liza is having everything offered to her now. she's just going yes, yes, yes. she's doing what everybody wants to do and can't. >> for somebody that's been divorced who is getting up to a certain age to have the chance of course you will feel like you're going to grab it. >> it is a domino effect. she's lying about her age, wants to be honest, and her friendships are at risk. it is interesting. she comes home and unloads stuff

i have to sort of like deal with the balance and, you know, she has amazing stuff this season. her character grows. last season ended with her fiance getting killed by a crane. >> we had to get rid of him somehow. >> cranes happen. >> it does. >> were you friends before the show? you seem to have a real friendship. >> no, we have never met. >> hoda woman. >> and i'm obsessed with her now. >> like me and you. we want to play a game. >> okay. >> this is famous friends. we want to show you a photo with some famous friends and see if you can guess. we don't even know. >> we're ready. >> we love a game. >> here it is. >> that's -- >> oh! >> i have no idea. >> i have no idea. >> will and grace? >> jason siegel? >> jason segel one. >> oh, "seinfeld." >> they all looked like guys. >> "friends." >> no, it's not. >> "sex and the city"! >> oh, my gosh. terrible. >> i'm bad at this.

i love bert. >> lucy and ethel! >> oh, matt damon and ben affleck? >> you got it! >> you know what, though -- >> we want to wish you a happy birthday. >> here we go. brought it for you. >> share with everybody. happy birthday. >> happy birthday. >> "younger" has been picked up already for the fourth season. season 3 premieres tonight. hoda and i are on it. you might want to watch. >> get ready for a fabulous foursome known as il divo. and we're going to party like it's 1976 when we head across the street to play "who knew" after your local news then. i love that my shop is paf the morning ritual around here. people rely on that first cup and i wouldn't want to mess with that.

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? play that funky music ? it's winesday wednesday and that's "play that funky music." i can't hear it but i will trust, by wild cherry, the number one song this week back in 1976. today's who knew takes you back 40 years, an exciting time in tv and film. we saw the debut of "charlie's angels," "the muppet show" and "rocky" along with other classics. we are about to put you to the test. hoda is across the street at the shop at nbc studios and 30 rock ready to hand out $100 to anybody who gets questions right. those who don't, get one of her wonderful signed books.

here with me is kate coyne, executive editor of "people" magazine, which released the special edition 1976. >> great to see you again. >> it was a great era. >> it was. it sure was. i think great in a way that a lot of people -- you say '70s, and it's like, oh, disco, shag carpet, whatever, but so many great pop culture moments. >> hoda? >> guess who's here, our fan of the week. >> lynette. >> lynnette is here. where are you from? >> ral, >> of course, you are, lynnette. are you ready? here we go. 1976 "rocky" made its writer and star sylvester stallone famous but the studio initially didn't want him on the film. who else was considered? was it burt reynolds, robert de niro or harrison ford? >> harrison ford? >> is she right? >> no. >> so sad. >> wait, no.

>> it was burt reynolds. yeah. even though stallone had written the film he was a total unknown. nobody wanted to buy it if he was going to star. fascinatingly sly stood his ground and said then i'm not selling it. finally two producers said, all right, we'll do it with you, kid. pretty great choice. >> yes. won the academy award for best picture. >> it absolutely did. >> unbelievable. hoda? >> what's your name? >> tina. >> from? >> texas. >> come on, tina from texas, let's play. what were the main characters "charlie's angels"? were they sabrina, jill and kelly, samantha, julie and chris or sofia jennifer and kathy? >> "a," "b" or "c"? >> "a." >> boom! "a." [ cheers and applause ] >> $100. >> america just held its breath when those women came in with the guns. >> they did. the network executives wound

want a lot more money. when she didn't get it she walked. they rewrote the character. so the character of jill was only a one-season wonder for that show. >> cheryl ladd came in. >> cheryl stepped in to play jill's sister kris after that. >> fascinating. >> wt's your name? >> lynn. >> from? >> arkansas! >> i love arkansas. >> all right, lynn. i think we'll be good at this. ready? >> i'm ready. >> in may of 1976 which singer set a new record for the most number one hits by a female vocalist? was it "a," steve nicks, "b," diana ross or "c," barbra streisand. >> "a." >> oh, good news. >> it is actually diana ross. >> the supremes were huge. >> and the solo artist diana ross was queen of the '70s. everything from "touch me in the morning" to "love hangover" to

she had an unbelievable decade. >> yeah, she sure did. >> one more hoda woman. >> dana. >> dana is here from -- >> texas. austin, texas. >> come on, dana. let's play. >> all right. >> what variety show star had the best-selling doll of 1976. was it cr, mar osmond or carol burnett? >> marie osmond. [ buzzer ] >> oh, so -- i mean, yay! >> was that donny and marie's great decade? >> it was a good decade for them but not as good as it was for cher. the answer is cher. the cher doll was a best-seller. i had one that hot pink halter pantsuit. amazing. >> how fun was she to look at? >> incredible. >> she still is. >> she was a real life barbie doll with the long hair, long legs. >> such an original. not that we don't love our marie and our barbra.

>> great to be here. >> a special collectors edition of "people" is on newsstands now. are you drowning in credit card debt? lauren was, too, but got herself afloat and she has great advice for you after this. much, do they? really? i'll take it. sir, your credit... when was the last time you checked? yeah, i'd better check my credit score. here, try credit karma. it's free. all right. no more surprises.

millions of americans are in some kind of debt. if you were with us when lauren greutman was here a few weeks ago, you might remember the story about her family's financial problems. >> lauren and her family successfully climbed out of a big hole and now lauren has been helping others do the same.

in her new book called "the recovering spender". >> lauren asked you to send out an sos if you needed help in getting back on track. today you are here with answers. this is a good idea. >> i am. i am. we got so many questions. >> let's go with the first one from louanne in morris, illinois. this is her question. what's the best way to pay off credit card debt? >> okay. credit card debt, there is a difference of opinion sometimes when it comes to paying off credit card debt. some people say start with the highest balance first. >> yeah. >> some people say -- or the highest interest rate. some say start with the lowest balance. and in my book i actually show a graph. you can see there is really only a one-month difference if you were to pay off a debt depending which one. but the psychological benefit of paying off the lowest balance first and getting rid of all of these little little credit cards far outweighs -- >> you can chip away at the big one. >> too many cards. >> exactly.

>> how many do you think we should have? >> i think zero. if you do have a credit card, i would say stick with one. >> it's hard to go to the store and they say, do you want to get one for 20% off? and you're like -- >> i hate it when they don't take the one you've got. >> yes, that's true. that's true. >> janet from new york. what does she write? >> i have $10,000 in credit card debt, $58,000 in a home equity loan. i am so lost and scared. i will not share with my family. my husband is not even aware. oh, my. i cannot share this with anyone. so isn't there? >> there is a lot of shame. and that question was very near and dear to my heart because that was me nine years ago. i think the bigger question is why are you spending so much money. >> of course. >> in my book i talked about the psychological things that happen when you're spending money. there is a place in your brain called the insula that doesn't ignite. it is responsible for telling your brain danger, danger, don't do that.

insula is not igniting telling your body no. >> it's a brain thing. >> with her you have to get real with why you are spending money. is it an addiction? it can be like a drug addiction or alcohol addiction so to really address that issue. >> the high from the purchase. >> exactly. >> right. >> physically though right now if she feels buried, what's the first thing? >> she needs to come clean to somebody. whoever it can be. if she sees a financial counselor, a regular counselor, get it out of your body. >> a friend. >> anybody. >> a friend, anybody. then you can start working with, okay, now the next step is to talk to my husband, we need to start getting real with this as a family. >> sounds like she does the finances for the family. >> yeah. >> he's not aware. >> exactly. it is important she talks to somebody. >> what about having a family meeting once a month to go over finances. >> yep, and that's what we do. we call it budget night. we talk about the budget the whole month before it happens. >> here's a question from crystal in north carolina. she says, i have no idea how to

earner. my son is 18 and still studying in school. when he needs something he just goes out and gets it. i have no ideaow to do a budget. we are slowly drowning. and i don't know how to save us. >> how is he getting it without a credit card? >> so, this is the interesting thing about this question is how do i put my husband on a budget. it lhow doou p somebody else on a diet. it doesn't happen. >> especially if he's the sole breadwinner. >> exactly. >> so what they need to do is they have to d values. what are they going to do as a family. that's really, really important. >> like what? what do you mean? >> vacations and -- >> for me, me and my husband have four children. our kids and their college education, that's a value to us. having family together time is a value to us. having financial security is something that's important, a value to us. if you are overspending and spending things that aren't according to those values, get rid of them. because they're not going to help you in your life. >> how is this young boy, 18 years old, able to purchase things --

>> at the doesn't have a job. >> mom and dad gave him a credit card. >> right. >> or he could have applied for one. >> exactly. you can apply for things -- >> that's true. >> without any -- >> yeah. >> i had one. >> my first one was my first week of college. >> i had one in college too. i was like, hmm. they get you. >> it's all great advice. >> terrific. thank you so much. we're proud of you. >> thank you. >> they speak several languages but you only need to understand one. >> the language of love. >> il divo on our stage. >> like never before. >> you will love thi ?? "it's amazing out there" means to me the wonder and the wow of weather. >> everything is amazing. >> it could be the smallest ice crystal, the biggest storm cloud. >> what does "it's amazing out there" mean to me? it means looking up and being inspired, even if it's just straight up blue skies. i mean how beautiful is that,

happens when the sun comes right over the ocean when it comes up in the morning. >> watching lightning streaking across the sky from one side to another. >> the role of thunder, it's just -- it's just one of the most amazing thing. >> that's what "it's amazing out there" is and what it means to you mentally and the memories you take away from that weather and how that absolutely affects our lives, our day-to-day. what's in our stores, what are we going to wear, what are we going to eat, what is everything going to cost? to me all those interactions. the weather has realnf on. that's why "it's amazing out there." >> what it means for me is it lets the world know what's happening at the weather channel. >> i think what makes the weather channel's coverage unique is that we are meteorologists. we know what is going on with the weather and that makes a tremendous difference. >> somebody just walks up to you in the field and says, thanks for being there. we're so glad that you were here to take us through it. >> we have a charge, we have a

we have a drive to provide information to people to help them, help their communities, help their families stay safe. it matters so much. >> when you start linking the people side up to the weather and the science of the data, it makes a real connection and starts to drive home the importance of what we do. >> i love weather. >> i do love weather. >> i love the weather. and, you know, i love working with people who love the weather and this is what we love to do. >> every single day is going to be something spectacular. it is truly amazou what are you doing right now? making a cake! uh oh. i don't see cake, i just see mess. it's like awful. it feels like am not actually cleaning it up. what's that make mommy do? (doorbell) what's that? swiffer wetjet. this is amazing. woah wow. now i feel more like making a mess is part of growing up. only new wetjet pads have absorb and lock

the citi concert series on "today" is proudly presented to you by citi. >> just when we thought the day couldn't get better we are about to be serenaded by four fine guys known around the world as il divo. over the last decade the classical crossover group sold more than 30 million albums.

their latest album is called "amother il passion." they just kicked off tir northern american tour and they will be next door at the radio city music hall tomorrow night. >> have you ever played radio city? >> we have played radio city before but not for a long time. >> yeah. that's an awesome, awesome venue. i love how you bumped it up a notch. you have performed for us. we got to see a little of the rehearsal but we are about to see something different. >> they have added the feminine touch. >> a lot of touches actually. we have a feminine touch. we now have dancers on the show with us. we actually dance with the dancers. we play instruments. we are doing solo songs. it is a whole new tour. >> all right. >> that keeps it fresh for you, too, doesn't it? >> yeah. >> what are you singing today?

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