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accuse donald trump of sexual misconduct -- >> he grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me. >> trump keeps denying the stories, all of them. >> the stories are total fiction. with vice-president joe biden. >> what he said is a ttbook definition of sexual assault. >> and with nominee f vice-presi mike pence. no tru says the shackles are off, how damaging has this episode been? the latest numbers from our brand-new nbc news wall street journal poll. the great american divide. we go to one county that's all in for trump. >> hillary has so much stuff
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for her. >> and another where everyone seems to be for clinton. >> i don't understand how people are voting for him. >> just how divided are we? joining me are hugh hewitt. joy reid, chris cillizza and kristen welker of nbc news. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> from nbc news in asis is "me every week we say it and every week it's true. there's never bee ak lcan presi politics. here we go again. admittedly there were times that we had trouble keeping up with the number of women who came forward claiming donald trump had groped, propositions or sexually harassed them. as the trump campaign began to buckle, repedca that his troubles would metasze and take out downall republicanshr sene and
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how dire things h become for trump. o new poll out right w, hillary clinton leads donald trump in a four-way race by ten points among registered voters. if you limit it to likely voters, check this out, clinton's lead grows to 48% 37% before likely voter models would actually help trump, not in case. but there's a silver lining for republicans in this poll. it may be in congress where to two points. a week ago, it had opened up to seven. these numbers come after a head shaking week when trump was under constant assault and seemed to be at war with just about everyone. in the face of more accusations of sexual assault, trump is lashing out. >> it's a rigged election, because you have phony people coming up with phony allegations. >> nine women have come forward.
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on a plane in 1979. >> when he started putting his hand up my skirt and that was it. that was it. this woman was ass the '90s. >> the person on my right who unbeknowned to me was donald trump, put this hand up my skirt. >> a "people" magazine writer was interviewing the trumps. she sa within seconds he was pushing me againhe and forcing his tongue down my throat. a former contestant on "the apprentice." >> i pushed his chest, put space between us. i said, come on, man, get real. he repeated i had words back to me, get real. as he began thrusting his genitals. >> trump has denies them.
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>> some are doing it for probably a little fame. >> even suggesting that they should not be believed bse they were not attractive enough for him to assault. >> believe me, she would not be my first choice that i can tell you. >> he has blamed media, the clintons. he has blamed a mexican billionaire. the trump campaign has pushed back on all of the allegations, offering a it was jessica who was being flirtatious. trump released a statement on summer write being, i ner her at hreeted her in fact, she continued to contact mehelp, e-mail mig office on april 14 o this year, asking that i visit her restaurant in california.
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a passionate speech by michelle obama who rarely weighed in to partisan politics this steeply. >> i can't stop thinking about this. it has shaken me to my core in a way that i couldn't have predicted. >> i'm thursday, i sat down with vice-president joe biden at a union hall in las vegas where he was campaigninin an attempt to help hillary clinstatof nevada. i began by asking the vice-president about those accusions of sexual assault against ld why shouldn't he get the benefit of the doubt? from these accusers. >> his own words. i don't have to even go to the accusers. when a man says that -- what he said is a textbook definition of sexual assault. i mean, it's a text book definition. the thing that is -- makes it so believable that he engaged in that kindf activity is not
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r. he acts in the private sector, he acts in the way he treats employees and that i -- i live in the penthouse. i'm a billionaire. i'm a star. and i can do what i want. that's the most disturbing piece. my father used to say, the greatest abuse is abuse of power. economic power, political power, physical power. should be representing th >> why do you been or even more >> d the i don't know that thnk that something gets said once, twice, ten s, thousveryone
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on the table. so i don't know. i think it's inrdeey. it has changed the dynamic pret substantial way so far. >> we have as given this a permission slip. >> this new level. and i was with my -- help my a i was i was embarrassed to even@ur gn even being thhe fath ter mother thr daughters or -- what a the message to young men or young boys? >> i did this virtual town hall
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number one. number two, tuth is, don't in a broken e de cratic party on this. i dn'tth speak $80,000, $90,000 and they are struggling. th minority group, they worry about these voters over here, they worry about this state. what about me? >> they don't talk to me. >> that's what i hear. >> i do, too. what happened is we had to spend so much time dragging a car out of the ditch, worrying about going over the cliff, dealing with people who didn't have enough to eat, making sure people were able to just hang on that it's only now that we got the economy back and wages are starting to rise that we can
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large portion of the middle class who has felt like they have been left behind and we don't talk to their needs. >> let's talk about her then. what's your advise to her? she has thi deplorables line that's hard for her to shake. president obama used bitter, cling to your guns and bible. he never shook that with a certain part of the electorate. she may never shake deplorables. how should she try? >> by demonstrating where her heart is, what she cares about. when she cares about -- she cares about the people struggling. that's been who she is. look, as i said, i know her well. she hasee batter and beaten. we al mistakes. she has made mistakes, too. for her to open up -- for example, i remember talking to her about having -- i had breakfast there every tuesday morning when she was secretary of state at my home. and i remember talking about lee
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dad tried torr mney to help -- i had a grant and aid but get me enough money. i went to his place of business. i wanted to see him about something. i walked out, he was pacing back and forth. i'm so ashamed. i'm so ashamed. my woe'm?1 gp because she understands that it's not just thd chance, it's how many middle ngclay do.thnkithe recession, hurt so bad. we lost $17 trillion in household wealth in the recession. if you lost your home and you
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don't benefit. when the market was -- if you lost your investment in the market through your 401(k), and now it's $18,000, the guys who made the big money -- they look around and say, wait a minute. >> i want to go to syria here. i know you are doing a big session that's coming up next week about what to do. why is there not a no-fly zone over aleppo? >> simple proposition. the first things first. we must defeat isil. we must take outraqqah. we must tak out mosul. we must eliminate the caliphate. it's the direct immediate threat to the american people. umber o. dod told us in the beginning that the assetswe need to be able do that would have to be diverted. weul not do both, could not do both. that's number one.
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syria not become the rwanda of this administration that you wonder what if, what if? >> this is complicated. we have to deal with central and eastern iraq to clear isil. that will fundamentally change -- >> once mosul is taken care of you, you think the focus can be back on syria and trying to solve this? >> raqqah, too.
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place against the homeland in those areas. secondly, russia is in real trouble. they're getting themselves in a quagmire. they have economic problems. they are dragged into this. isil gone, russia in a totally different place creates a lot of additional opportunities. >> we're not going to regret not doing more in aleppo? >> the answer is, we regret whenever anyone dies. i regr something about mutilation in africa. i rr problems in afghanistan. but there has to be sen a of humility about what is able to be done at the time. what we're doing is the right thing, generating a consensus among the arab countries as to what we should be doing in the region. and at the same time, going after isil to destroy it. >> final question.
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ambassador and we talked about the idea that -- you gotta respond when they are hacking. you have to do something. he described it as a high hard one, maybe just sort of -- in baseball, you throw a high hard one to send a message. why haven't we sent a message yet to putin? >> we're sending a message. we have the capacity to do it. the message -- >> he will know it? >> he will know it. it will be at the time of our have the greatest impact. >> will it be enough that it will get him to back off? how concerned are you that the country will question the result of the election? >> i am not concerned. the reason i'm not is we're working closely with all the departments of elections across the country, number one. number two, the american people are pretty damn resilient. the capacity to do -- to fundamentally alter the election
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think. i tell you what. to the extent they do, we will be proportional in what we do. >> a message is going to be sent? will the public know it? >> hope not. >> when we come back, the man who would like to have joe biden's job. donald trump's running mate, donald trump's running mate, governor mike pence of indiana. welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across town in minutes hour. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait.
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welcome back. one republican whose representation has not suffered is donald trump's running mate mike pence. in our new poll, pence's total positive rating was plus eight points. just 28% negative. that put him ahead of paul ryan, the republican party as a hole and donald trump. governor pence joins me now from welcome back to the program. >> good to be with you. >> let me stamapeechm let me play on the other so while isn't happening a estdishon iss not somein we n igext ing l.
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mike 11 years ago that he has expressed deep regret for. he is embarrassed about it. he apologized last weekend to the american people and made it clear that it was just talk. he has apologized to his family. i accept that apology. i truly do believe that this election -- this election is of such an enormous magnitude that it's important we move beyond this issue. it's important that we focus on the need for a stronger america
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as i traveled across florida this week and across the country, the people that i'm encountering are focused on those issues about really restoring this country and reviving our economy and that's where we're going to continue to be focused. >> donald trump does not want to move off of this issue. in fact, he said he has been getting advice saying that, but instead, he has been responding to every single accusation. here is what he has said about a couple of the different accusers. >> she's righ she's writing a story -- check out her facebook page. you will understand. i was sitting with him on an airplane. and he went after me on the plane. yeah, i'm going to go after -- believe me, she would not be my first choice. that i can tell you. man. you don't know. that would not be my first choice. >> that was friday, governor pence.
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talk. we have nine accusers that have come out since you have said it's just talk. do you really believe it's just talk? >> i really do, chuck. what we have this week is a series of unsubstantiated allegations. and donald trump -- >> let me stop you there. they are not unsubstantiated. >> he has denied those allegations. >> you have firsthand accounts. they are unproven, but they are not unsubstantiated. you have a firsthand account. with that account. but they are substantiated. no? >> well, no, these are not substantiated accounts. these are people who have brought forward allegations going back in some cases decades. and donald trump has made it clear that he categorically plnies these things ever took e. i have to tell you, it really is astonishing to most americans that as these unsubstantiated allegations are treated with an enormous amount of coverage on this network and other networks,
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secretary of state clinton's years in the state department and the clinton foundation are virtually ignored by the national media. we discovered this week that state department officials actually directed contracts for the haitian recovery after the earthquake to frnd t intons. literally, that got almost no media attention while those that step forward with these unsubstantiated claims that donald trump has denied were continuous coverage. it's one of the reasons why so many americans feel like they election is being rigged by a national media that's constantly trying to change the subject away from and practice willful ignorance toward the corruption and misdeeds and pay for play politics of the clintons. >> do you believe that women who believe they were victimized by sexual assault, that come out, they should be ignored? hasn't that been part of the
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assault in our culture is that there is this feeling that women get ignored? >> no, i won't say anything to disparage any woman who believes they have had an experience like this. but donald trump has made it clear that these allegations are categorically false. we have had more evidence that has come out to challenge those versions of the facts. the ignorance -- ignoring that's going on here is the way the avalanche of real, hard evidence of corruption during the years of the clinton administration. "the new york times" just a few minutes ago posted a story about -- in exchange for five minutes with bill clinton, the government of qatar was going to give $1 million tohe cnton found.ation we know that more than half of hillary clinton's meetis whil w secaryftatewere given to major contributors to the clinton foundation. the haitian government think,
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socialized medicine, it's getng virtually no attention. >> you just cited "the new york times." denied by donald trump are getting all the attention. the american people see right through it. >> you cited "the new york times." obviously, not a small news organization. weave been reporting on this. front page of nbcnews.com. we will report on this throughout the show. your running mate is the one under fire with this. let me ask you this, for a long time, you used to refer donald trump as this good man. you haven't done that this week. any reason for that change? >> sure i have. sure i have, chuck. the donald trump i have come to know loves his family, loves this country. he has made a connection to millions of americans because he has given voice to the frustrations and the aspirations of the american people. when you have the president of france over this weekend say that it was because of barack obama's and hillary clinton's
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emboldened to invade ukraine and take a larger role in syria, that's really saying something. the american people know that that -- america has weakened at home and abroad because of the policies of obama and clinton. >> you brought up russia. do you -- i know you are getting intelligence briefings. do you believe the american intelligence that says russia is behind all of theseck former white house chief of staff, john podesta, the dnc, do you believe the amerin intelligence community on this? >> i think there's more and more evidence that implicates russia. there should be serious consequences. >> why doesn't your running made -- >> the privacy and security of the american people. >> why doesn't your running mate believe that? >> i certainly hope what the vice-president said this morning is something they follow through on. >> why does your running mate
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stage and not followed through like moving red lines -- my hope is that if the evidence does flow to russia that there are serious consequences. remember, this avalanche of e-mails -- >> governor, governor, governor, why doesn't injure running mate believe what you believe about a foreign government in russia trying to hack into the american democracy? >> donald trump and i believe we should follow the facts. we should stand up for cyber security. he had an entire presentation about his call for a new cyber security task force bringing together some of the best minds in the country to protect america's privacy,llect intualnd defense. it's not just flowing out of wikileaks. it was abc news, a freedom of information request, that was able to uncover the fact that
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st hillary clinton's haitian recovery effort to friends of the clintons. >> i understand -- again, you keepngyi th you have a irsthand account. it's unproven. ot unsutantiated. let me ask you this final question. bill crystal ted at what point are you going to feel uncomfortable defending donald trump? y h byumili the trump campaign, does me pence have the self-respect to resign from the ticket? how do you respond tll crtavition to runice-president of the united states, ek,use i think this country is in a lot of troue. i think donald trump has articulated a vision to make
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americans, despite the obvious bias in the media and attacks against donald trump, i have to tell you this week, the crowds i saw here in orida, the crow idsn r me and my lit family, cht ge. we're going toueo stand shoululdto with this man andht way and da deliver a greatr a.erng to make america great again. >> will you accept the results electok,l absolutely a tsults e culminate on vember 8. the american people are tired of the obvious bias in the national media. that's where the sense of a rigged election goes here, chuck. >> when you say -- >> when the media comes in with negativettnst my running mate, instead of focusing onhe hard evidence coming out about corruption -- e you all -- >> in the clinton foundation years, it's why people are
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>> we will fight through. we will accept the will of the american people. >> you keep saying rigged lection. are you concerned that the more you say it, the more you actually undermi ourne democracy unintentionally? >> look, one of the great, great traditions of america is the peaceful transfer of power. in elections -- you are a student of history. elections get rough. i expect they're going to stay just as rough as they are right now going into november the 8th. the stakes are so high in this election. but as donald trump said inh you today, we will accept the will of the american people. between now and electn day, we're going to work our hearts out against all odds,nst or sretrgeroer. ndamstand why you continue to attack us. i think it'sgs. i unerstand, governor mike pence, i appreciate you coming on the program. thank you. >> you bet. later, what impact will
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welker. one of them pulls close. i lost large number of women voters based on mad things that never happened. you have backed away from trump. how did mike pence defend him this morning? >> i thought mike did a very good job. in fact, i'm a "game of throwns" geek and i saw that. >> you and maureen dowd, she made reference to that, calling him the mad king. >> the end of the biden interview -- this is not in response -- it's so newsworthy what he sai about the american department of defense not being
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the same time, what he said about everything, it leads to, here we have the worst election in modern times when the greatest crises of the post soviet era are growing, it's a disconnect that's beyond me. >> the irony is that donald trump, the last thing he wants to do is talk about syria. >> my takeaway was the end of the interview when you asked him if he would accept the election results. he said, yes. donald trump is sending out the opposite message. he is trying to lay the groundwork for this id t yesterday you had the clinton campaign and paul ryan coming out in very strong terms saying we will respect the results of this election. republicans increasingly concerned that they need to be louder about th th whatever happenlect n yis respected. >> i struggle mi pence. he is trying to yield to what are clearly th talking points that the candidate wants, which is that the election is rigged. he said that to you.
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back now with the panel. there will be a third and final debate, believe it or not. i want to throw a couple things out here that we haven't gotten into. more is from our poll to show you the racial divide in this country. among all white voters, this week, this is donald trump's worst week yet. look at this, hillary clinton has a higher negative rating on all white voters than donald trump. i think that tells y structural -- there's a structure here, there's a floor that donald trump -- that's when we talk about trump will get 35%. it's literally almost structurally impossible for that to happen. combine the polarization in the country, self-sorting in the country and the feelings about hillary clinton, whether you think they are justified, they exist. he has, i think, a very hard floor. his problem at least if you believe polling is he has a very hard ceiling that's about 42%.
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close to one another. >> a half floor. >> his ceiling is 42. >> i want to bring up how the campaign is handling the podesta hack, the russian hack, wikileaks is the conduit here. we finally got speech transcripts. to me, if you take them all in totality, she's a calculating politician, she's everything bernie sanders said she was. had this come out during primary, could this have cost her the nomination? >> it could have. to your point, it reinforces everything a lot of people thought about secretary clinton. the fact that it's coming out right now is awkward for the campaign. theye having to answer a lot of thorny questions in the days leading up to election day. but in terms of their strategy for dealing with this, they are pivoting. they are not acknowledging or authenticating any of the e-mails and saying, this is the russians trying to meddle in our
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supporter admit to me, they said, they won the primary but they lost the campaign. >> the russian hack -- they did lose the campaign. the russian hack is very troubling. if they drop -- the russians drop her private e-mails, the race could turn again. what governor pence said about the haitian leak, that's criminal wrongdoing. it does not come from the russians. it comes from a request. if secretary clinton's state department directed aid friends of bill, that is criminal wrongdoing that will haunt her into her term if she wins. you can't rule out donald trump. if the russians drop -- no matter -- if they drop her private e-mails, that means she's compromised. wait and see. >> the one thing i return to is the way you started earlier in the show, which is talking about trump's tweets. he continues to be by far -- the
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make, have you heard donald trump make a case that was that concise and that to the point? no. because he is constantly inflicting self-wounds. tweeting about things, tweeting about random cultural events. he cannot make this story about her. the more it is about her, this has been the case over and over again, whether it's e-mail, clinton foundation, other state department stuff, the more it's about her, the worse she does. the more it is about him, the worse he does. >> you can't get way fth about the russians, you are talking about the leaks, you bring yourself back to another narrative that the trump campaign has not dealt with this, this affinity between himself and his camp and the russians in this and the fact that they are blatantly attempting to help him become president of the united states. that's to me the looming issue that is the dog not barked. it's also unprecedented. i think troubling for a lot of americans. >> mike pence's position totally different than donald trump's.
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me, i say nice things about me. that's not what mike pence outlined today. >> i can't tell you how many times this week journalists have said, what would this news cycle look like if we hadn't had the 2005 tape of donald trump? if these allegations hadn't come forward from all of these women? we would be almost solely focused on these wikileaks. yet, donald trump continues to kind of make these unenforced errors. >> this whole obsession of the everybody is hyping it up too much. we have candidates' words and candidates' speeches here. that should be the focus. we will be back with our end game segment. what donald trump said about drug testing presidential candidates. >> coming up, "meet the press" end game and post game brought to you by boeing, building the to you by boeing, building the future one century at a time - this costs you money and runs on gas. this saves you money and runs on calories. save the car for rainy days and long road trips.
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>> we're like athletes, right? so athletes, they're making -- athletes, they make them take a drug test. i think we should take a drug test prior to the debate. i do. >> hugh, of all the head scratchers, this is -- i have to say, he did it in new hampshire with the opioid epidemic is real. to throw that out there. >> that comprehensive addiction and recovery act is why portman is winning. we're in cleveland, red, white and blue here. >> it's more about this hillary clinton stamina issue. >> it gets back to the point that chris made that is the point that this is not a campaign. what donald trump is doing is he is performing. he is performing for his audience. he feeds off of and gets emotion sort of support and he has -- he is feeding a need in himself. this is not about trying to become president of the united states. it's about whatever it is he plans to do on november 9.
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that it's going to about no-holds-barred. >> what is this -- let me ask you this. what is this debate going to look like? >> wwe. >> she pulled a punch. i felt like she pulled punches in the second debate. >> she let him do his thing that she knew would not be -- i think he will continue to just engage in flights of fancy as he appears to be doing at this point. this feels to me like -- we see this in other campaigns, rarely at the it's you do you end, which is okay. all of his strategists, all those people are i think essentially saying, all right, you are going to do what you want to do anyway. why don't you just go and do it in this last month? that's a disastrous strategy if you are a down ballot republican. but it will give him some level of gratification. >> i expect secretary clinton to display expertise and mr. trump
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night. >> that's interesting. i will be surprised. >> i don't know he will. he should. can he stick to a message? >> nbc news will provide live coverage of the debate wednesday from las vegas. it begins at 9:00 eastern on your local nbc station. that's all for today. we will be back next week. will it be another one of those unprecedented weeks? because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >> you can see more end game in post game sponsored by boeing, on the "meet the press" facebook
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