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>> war of words taking on ard whole new dis mension.ensi >> there's a war of words wor going on.gog o >> just a little.aittle. >> over here this is thehere hottest story at 6:30. 6 we invite you to join us the conversation.nversa we've already seen a fewady tweets coming right now. tweet us use #5at6:30.:30. >> tweet us about just about anything that's on your mind. mn >> doesn't have to be the war of words. words >> let's talk about that wara w shall we. >> okay. so we know it began witht begani donald trump calling hillaryalnh clinton a bigot yesterdayesrday during a speech. sh. today she responded during ain rally in nevada. the democratic presidentialc candidate accused trump ofprd embracing the beliefs of thef te alt right.ht. it's a movement characterizediz as an extremely conservativerviv offshoot of the gop whose
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followers include white nationalists and anti-semites.ie >> from the start donald trumpmp has built his campaign onign o prejudice and paranoia. he is taking hate groupse group mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the republican party. his ---- >> and there you just heard a little bit of what shred toshreo say. clinton's campaign said herr speech today was partly ay a response to donald trump tru calling her a bigot. take a listen to himn toim yesterday. >> hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes.ot. not as human beings worthy of a better future. future. she's going to do nothing. >> it's kind of striking when you see the reaction from some people in the audience.ude. ronica cleary is with us rightis now as we talk about
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right and latest term in thisn t campaign. >> reporter: the alt right alt t is a term that i think maybenkay people have not heard before and as shaun described it someom people say it's associated with white supremacyremacy antisemitism. hillary clinton today she grew e a connection between donalden d trump and the alt right through this new hire campaignci ceo steven ban none of non breitbart news.eitbnews breitbart is a conservativeseatv publication. she has already used titless from breitbart news headlinesean and stories to demonstrateonst some of these ideas that the t publication has put forward. so then today in this speech, sc she drew that connection evenco more so. mo listen to what she said. sd. >> the latest shakeup was w designed to "let trump be trump."trump." so, to do that he hired steven ban on the head of
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wing web site called cal breitbart.com as the campaign ceo. according to the southern poverty law center whichrhi tracks hate groups, breitbartrea embraces ideas on the extremist fringe of the conservative right.vati this is not conservatism as wem have known it.ha kno this is not republicanism asniss we have known it.e know. these are racist ideas, race baiting ideas anti-muslim,im anti-immigrant, anti-women,rant all key tenets making up the emerging racist ideology knownno as the alt right. right >> reporter: okay, so, it makes you wonder and ask does the alt right agree? okay, so i spoke with jared taylor,aylor, he's the editor of american amea renaissance. this is a publication thatt openly defines itself as part of the alt right. taylor he disagrees with he hillary clinton's definitioninio of the alt right and he alsoighh says that donald trump is not n a part of the alt right. so,
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okay, well, what is the alt right? now lift the end tohe et some of the language that he he used to define it.it. okay, he said the alt right is i a dissident movement that does not believe races areac a equivalent or interchange i can'interchangeable.i'm going t. he sales the races are not are t equivalent or interchangeable.ge that's an extreme statement tono made but with that he saidh thai donald trump is not one off them. he is not part of the alt right.t. listen to what he had to say.ay >> he's not part of the alt thea right and for her to somehow seh hang the alt right's views around his neck is just a dishonest campaign tactic butctc that's what we expect from politicians these days.ays. there are certain aspects ofects his campaign and certainnd policies of his that we support.supp that by no means implies that t he agrees with everything that we say.we say >> reporter: ronica, let me ask you a little bit about thee alt right. it seems like we
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hear about this or at least leat i'd never heard of it until uil this election cycle.le has this movement or thishis group have they been around aun for awhile. awhile. >> reporter: honestly shawnonesn i couldn't tell you that. tel i don't know. kno my instinct is to say that it is newer. newer. when i interviewed the maned from t that publication, that,t alter right publication het pu ugid that even though he feltho hillary clinton's description of the group was wrong, evenasrg though he feels trump is notis n part of the alt right, he said d that he was grateful for therhe opportunity to get some media at tension about his organization and what the alt right standsha for. f i don't think it's surprisingk t that we haven't heard much ofarh this alt right idea but a viewer e-mailed us immediatelyey after hillary clinton spokepo and said here, look into moreo r of the alt right and the viewer seemed to be quite concerned with the alt righthe movement, not endorsing it but saying you got to take a look lk at what this month.sonth stands for.ands >> i think a good parallel ispa donald trump on one side you
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can argue he's not part of thet alt right but one who unarguably would be considered is david duke and we've heard quite a bit from him and iom hni know donald trump would like to distance himself but he but h hasn't really done that. tha there you have it. >> speaking of donald trump emom wanted to deport the nation's n' 11 million undocumentedend immigrants. now it appears his stance on stn immigration is changing a bit.it in fact here's what he said during a recent interview on fox news.ew >> let me go a step further.urer they'll pay back taxes. taxes they have to pay taxes. tes there's no amnesty as such.h. there's no amnesty.mnes. >> right. >> but we work with them. witem. now, okay, but when i look --k - i have this all over,ver, everybody agrees we get therees bad ones out.. but when i go through and io th meet thousands and thousandsds of people on the subject and a i've had very strong peopleg pee come up to me, really great, gr, great people come up to me and d they've said mr. trump, i love you. yo but to take a person that's thas been here for 15 or 20 years yrs and throw them and the fa
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out it's so tough, mr. trump.r.p i mean, i have it all the time. it's a very, very hard thing.ng >> okay. so, that's what he said thenhe but then just this afternoon, this is what he had to sayoay about immigration.. >> we will build the wallal 100 percent and mexico will be paying for the wall.al we will build it 100 percent. >> obviously two ends of whats donald trump has been sayingas b right there but nonetheless want to bring ca cabot phillipsp you're calling this the flips ti but you also say this is one isn that's going to help pull in p the undecideds.ecids. >> that sound you hear off in the distance is jeb bush screaming that donald trump don has stolen his immigrationigtion plan and he got bashed for itori by donald trump.by donal this is absolutely autel a flip-flop. to go from this rhetoric oficf we're going to deport depor 11 million people round them peo up with a deportation force tooe now saying well if they've ty' been here they're contributing
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conversation about it is a total flip-flop but ultimately l i think it's a smart move. me. you've got trump supportersports knock -- not going to beng b behind this absolutely but if bf they look at the fact that we need to be to beat hillary clinton, they're not going tooti do it by this hard line stancesn of deporting everyone here illegally.y. >> there were trump is your you gates saying he has not changed his mind he's not flip-flopping he's keeping with the same stance but therece are many saying we wanted to see this pivot more toward thert middle this is what ishis ist expected how are we supposed sup to read between the lieges of those two different messages. >> the trump campaign has aampa special way of defending theirnt man in a very interesting way. katrina pierson hisiers h spokeswoman said he's not changing his opinion he's justni changing the words that he's using. using. >> okay. >> something that only the trump campaign can get away with g saying. sin i think you need to look atat the fact they're not making aakn play to republicans, they'rethey making a play to those people in the middle.e. >> sure. >> how many undecided voters vos there are left at this point. they'r
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young people especially on the streets on campuses and i wasse on multiple campuses today asking people how they felthow y and there was a consensus. they said regardless of myga view of donaldrd trump this is a reasonable plan i like where this is going it's a step inlait the right directio'sn and youndu know it's tough to disagree. di. i think a lot of people on the far right you were juste st talking about the alt right rig saying this is a liberal idea,ee this is an extremist viewstie trump is putting forth itsth its really not an extreme view. recent polls are in the majority republicans supportpo this immigration reform. r a lot of people on the far f right are more vocal portion ptn of the republican party. >> absolutely. a >> but they're not the the majority of the republicane party. >> scab bot it's both the extremes on both sides of the party, extreme left. lef how much is this kelly anne conway effect. eff she took over a week or so ago. she's been making the rounds rod in the media.th do you think this is hernks is telling donald trump there's a middle ground that peopled wander to see that this couldatt work for you. y. >> i wish i had som
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sources on the trump campaign cg telling me if this was herer doing or if this was trumprump being trump its an about-faceboe as far as the way trump is manipulating the media.lating td in the past we've seen hillary a have a bad week and then trump m make it even worse for himself e by not letting the media dwellie on her.er this week shred a tough time with the clinton foundation foun new allegations there andhe a rather than saying somethingsayi ridiculous and name calling cli donald trump actually put p forth a policy and people are all talking about it andg t it whether people agree with ith or not at least the trump campaign now has the media theia talking about a policy pic proposition.osit >> and let's point this out's too. p donald trump is at leastst talking to the media.edia. he hates the media.es tedia he's pointed that out.hat out hillary clinton has not held a press conference in 200 some days.days >> 264 days but who is i countering.countering. >> legitimate questions oute there.qu so to that end i think she thi s owes the american people tople talk to the media a little lit more than what she's doingwh right now than these carefully scripted photo ops.pt >> there's a painful video ofulf a reporter asking mill larryll when are we going to get to
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zero everyone have some chocolate.ate. interesting point to bring up.tu >> cabot i late to cut you off o man we got to go. g >> thanks for having me on. >> we want to see what youhat yo thought about trump'strump' immigration policy. p ological trump's evolving evolv stance on immigration help orig hurt him?im >> i think it will help him. h i think he should get a chance.chan >> i'd imagine it would hurt him.hi because i think i have family fm and friends that are republicans that i love dearly l but they -- one of their tir issues is the illegalhe ill immigration issue and theyn iss feel strongly about it.ou it. >> he's not serious.erious why would he change up nowha when he was talking about sending people back during the primary?primar >> it shows that he doesn'te dot have a substance if he can so easily change from one thinge fi to the next.ext. that's kind of bad.ad >> even though folks are talking about the flip-flopping there i think wee see this a lot of times fromro both sides the cadi
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be to the extreme of one sideid and pivot back to the towarde td the middle when it comes timen e for the general election.lectn. >> we saw the weather pivoting n back and forth from nice and pleasant to oppressive.reiv we're getting that oppressiverev point. sue palka, are we not. >> yes, we're getting therenghee very quickly jim and shawn andha we want to get you ready foror tomorrow.tomo if you've about that outsidet th today you know that theu kn humidity came way back up u again. well, the temperature is goingrn the match it tomorrow. we're headed for 97 degrees but it's going to feel like to it's closer to 100 degrees and a there could be a spotty storm sm tomorrow. now, on your fox5 accuweatherr 7-day forecast, hey, we're zipep tripping tomorrow to silvero si spring, so say hi to ourur morning crew out there. tre don't worry about anythingnythg thunderstorm-wise and i think ti the channe chance of a storm tow is very slight. look at all the 90's here withwh a few more storms in the the forecast next week.cawe so, this is going to be at least seven days off temperatures at or above 90 so0s fasten your seat belts.r jim, shawn, back to you.k to y >> they are locked into place. e >> yup. >> the black lives matte
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>> ♪ >> 5 at 6:30 continues rightight now n about 15 minutes wpgc95.5 radio is going to bee hosting a town hall on hal community relations.io it has become a key issue inssui this election especiallyn espec following the high profilefi shootings of several unarmed und men at the hands of police nationwide.de >> and joining us right now joe clair. how are you joe? joe >> hey, i'm good. how you guys doing. >> good. tell us what you're doing tonight. what's the message we're trying to get across y here? her >> it's a simple message. listen. listen everybody is talking about weut need to do this, we need to do
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that, here's what we need tot we do, have a police forum with the community so that the community can say to theity police how they're feeling, feeg the police can say to the to t community how they're feeling.ee we can start the dialogue thatlt helps the healing, that helpshah the progress, that helps the the new generation, the newew thinking, the new way.ew w we have to start somewhere andom so that's what tonight is all about, starting.t, s >> joe over the last few over months the last year and a half we've seen a l of backack and forth with the black livestb matter movement with the blueovm lives matter movement.lives matm who are you going to haveu ing talking on this path and where w is the town hall going on ifn i people want to come down? >> so, the town hall is going ig down in my hometown of seat sea pleasant maryland. maran everybody knows where seatea pleasant is, it's at the seat pleasant rec center. cter. this rec center was one of theen places that kept can me offt ket the streets when i was a young u man who may have been vulnerable or whatever andhateve tonight we have the deputy d chief of the seat pleasantt ple police department is here andtmn that's how we started it.starte. i came out for the nati
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night out. he said hey we should do this ds more often. we should have smoome communityy dialogue. we should have somethingd have bigger than just a show, a picture, a photo op. a pto we should have something real.ea >> sure. >> once he said that, i tt, agreed. i don't want to do anything anyg unless it's real so i figured id this would be it.th >> joe, you're not --ot basically by saying thatayin you're not seeing any resistance you're seeingoue s police agencies willing tollg engage this conversation? s you're not seeing resistance out there? >> well, yeah, this actuallylly got sparked with the seat st pleasant police department. pol they came to me and said, hey, h can we do a forum, would you, wl help us? i'm like if you willing to be honest and open and transparent, yeah. y >> when you say lon nest ands ln open and transparent.nsparent. >> we need that. it's one of those times. of >> when you say lon nest open oe and trance parent what do you mean? what do you want tot hear? what do you want the w police department and thece dep officials to share with the community?comm >> same thing everybody else wants. wants. we need to talk about how comeau we never hear police screaming a out abo
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violence against a civilian. civ everybody wants to know well kne how come the police don't saytay anything.hi we also want to hear from thefrm police what it's like to have'so to be a police officer who pice just left his home, who hasho just gone out to go to work and he's faced with awith a situation with violence.n wi it's a two-way street and itree don't want anybody to get that a lost.lo we need the police department.em the police serve more than just, you know, coming out o when there's a bad problem inbl your community.muni. >> right. so there are more than --re >> 33 do a number of m things.hi we had a -- the deputy cleveutye was on this morning who is also a chaplain he talked talke about having to be a counseloror crossing guard a policerd pol officer, a part-time dad andartd all this other stuff once he got to work. however, the community, c however, is saying, okay, o you're one of us, you came you c from us, we put you in there. te there are some things that are going on that just cannot flynoy that we have to stop that and we have to have a dialogue. diao >> all
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>> joe clair host of the lowof l will joe clair morning show on wpgc. thank you so much. m we wish you all the best witht i the for up. >> people need to come out.ne the police are here, i'm here h we need to see the people.d toet they always say nobody doesody d anything. this is me doing my part. p >> we got it.got i >> we appreciate it. you're doing a good thing.hing thank you joe.ank you jo >> thank you. >> what is an independent an voter to do in this election cycle. keep those tweets coming #5at6:30. back after this.
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>> ♪ >> in case you didn't understand what he spelled outn there, it was the word inhedependent. this has been an election bee season unlike any other.y in fact some voters feel like fl they're stuck between a rocke ue and a hard place.a hardlace they don't like hillary, they t don't like donald. lindsey france. is great to have you here. let's get down to it. >> thanks. >> let's talk about being ant bg independent. for so many years we already
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but let's talk about thet's independent voter. who are we -- are we seeing aeeg larger or growing number ofum independent voters this time around?around >> absolutely. in this election we're seeing we upwards of 42 percent of of the of voter demographic as registered as independents.ed a right now in colorado alone there's 1 million. mli they're under the age of 35unde and they outnumber republicans i and democrats. democrats. the problem is they have ae difficult time being allowed bel to register to vote in a lote ia of states.oftates. the state party set the ruse.he they don't get a vote in theinhe primary.ar many just the general. jthe it's really tough to get yourou voice out there.voice out there. >> you described who is thisho h independent.depe there's a lot of folks righta lo now who say i'm not exactly exa sure where i should be in i this. you came with five key points pi on being able to tell whetherl h you might be a independent. >> if you are listening to someone who has traditionallydii been your choice of party af par gop or a democrat or even a third party candidate if i they're listening to the other side of the aisle and of e ai listening just to respond
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not to understand, you might y be an independent voter.peent also if you are dealing with awi party that's very us versuss them, that's any other goingr gg to get your hot button issuesues across very well when it comests time for the congressional the s season to start. start if religion is a big stickingtin point for you it's probably best to pull stakes because that is going to be somethingg o that pulls the agenda biga bi time. if you're a party that triest te to shut out voters because bau they can't be tracked such assuc primary elections and not only o that if you're dealing with with someone who won't answer a question in press conferences,fc you're probably going want toan find something else that worksng for you because you need someone who can speak you toakou so you know what you'reou're electing. ec >> so as you listen to the -- t- we've got our third partyrd p candidates out there, we've outt got the democrats and we'veve got the republicans, where dohe you think, you know, when wenown listen to all of the messagessa and the five points that you just went down right there, is there any one candidate that t lines up with that independentin way of thinking?hinkin >> well, it's interesting youeru say that because as we head bece into the general a elections
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oftentimes here thee the republicans and the democratss s trying to sound more moderate. independence tend to be more moderate and those aren't and going to get you votes in aot i primary. so right now it's looking like the two independents, the 23rd party candidates jill stein and gary johnson they tend to t have a more work with uss approach but are they electability? they cannot even get enough support to getu on the debate stage and that's proven to be a big problem. prom >> all right so the problem isi so who do you vote for then if you're the independent? you got do your homework.omew >> you got to do the homework.o. it's really difficult.y di >> thank up lindsey france.ra >> does the economy have youthec down a little bit? if so, hit the gym because according to aca neusw study that is what w everyone else is doing including our very own jim lokay.loy. that's why he disappeared.isappe he ran over to start liftingif the weights, crunching the --he what do you call it crunching c the what do you call it? u ca i crunching your abs doing all those thing. he's going to go to crunchon fitness right now put the newhe study to the es
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>> ♪ >> 5 at 6:30 back with a brand new study suggesting the weak ta economy is responsible for something called rampanted rpant swoleness. jim lokay is at crunch acrun fitness. apparently since the 2008 the economic crisis people are taking to social media menal m especially to post their fito e body pictures and what do you finding there at the gym? >> well, ooh find lee he saysay he promise i'll be able toe to walk. lk get me swole here.t me swole he. we don't have a lot of time.avao >> it won't take a lot ofake a time. >> let's do it.>> l >> have a seat right here.ht h >> all right.>> >> get in a comfortableoable position where he can hit outrea five to 10 reps. rs. >> i have like 20 seconds.econds let's go. >> there's no weight on there. >> go jim, go jim.im >> come on.
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