>> ♪ >> hi everybody. the president is in france tonight but it's what's happening back home that's stealing the headlines. russia scandal and healthcare. >> this is the story everybody is talking about tonight. tweet us. we invite you to join the conversation as usual. just use the #5at630. president trump met with french president emmanuel macron today. the two leaders discussed a number of issues and then addressed the press. of course the focus quickly turned to donald trump jr.'s meeting with the russian lawyer. trump released e-mails earlier this week that show he thought he was going to that meeting to get revealing information or

hillary clinton. today the president was asked about that and the he defended his eldest son. >> my son is a wonderful young man. he took a meeting with a russian lawyer, not a government lawyer but a russian lawyer. it was a short meetin. it was a meeting that went very, very quickly, very fast. two other people were in the room. they i guess one of them left almost immediately and the other one was not really focused in the meeting. i do think this. i think from a practical standpoint most people would have taken that meeting. it's called opposition research or even research into your opponent. so, again, i have a son who is a great young man, he's a fine person. >> one other things he said in there is that he said the media was making too much of this and that's why people were focused on it again you heard him there say most anybody he thinks would have

>> the first thing, too, we went back to the equivalent was there an equivalency to that and the meeting that was done with not chelsea clinton not a clinton but rather somebody who was -- had an interest in the hi hillary clinton campaign. >> nile great to see you. >> and you shawn. >> let me can you. how much trouble is the white house having staying on message even when they're all the way over there in france talking about this russia issue and donald trump. >> well, the problem really, shawn is that these e-mails have under cut their previous defense. that previous defense was the idea that yes, russia may have meddled but there was no coordination or certainly no collusion with the trump campaign. collusion hasn't been proven but these e-mails certainly under cut that defense in a fundamental way. >> we asked this question earlier in the week to some people whenever this first broke, nile, but the question here is, was this a donald

trump being naive, was it something that was wrong but not illegal or something that was pat patently illegal and i think that's where a lot of questions remain at this point. >> yes, that's right, as with almost any legal offense or alleged offense it depends which lawyer you talk to as to whether it is perceived as illegal or not. there is the possibility of some campaign finance laws having been breached. those prohibit campaigns from soliciting something of value whatever you define that from foreign nationals or from foreign governments so that could be potential legal jeopardy on that score but again do you have lawyers who say no, this doesn't rise to that level. >> so, to have that sort of involvement where you sit down and talk to somebody from a foreign government that in itself is not illegal, correct as long as it's not a quid pro quo. >> well, it depends -- it depend if you -- depends what lawyer you talk to. >> okay. >> some people would say that by getting information you're getting something of value. >>

>> others would say it has to be something more tangible about that. >> let me ask you about the trip itself. what was the advantage, why did the president accept the invitation and why would macron invite them? we're looking at video right now. they had dinner tonight at an eiffel tower restaurant but what's the -- what's the take away from all of this? >> i think for president trump shawn it provides a degree of respite from some of these domestic issues he's having. for president macron perhaps he is himself a relatively new arrival on the world stage, perhaps no harm having the president of the united states even though president trump is not a particularly popular figure in most of western europe. >> one thing that came out today and the question is are people making a big deal about it or are they not, was there was a little meeting between donald trump and melan la crumb and emmanuel macron and his wife and the president, you see the handshake right there in they called it like the secondhand shake but it wasn't

people were also making a big deal on twitter, nyle, about later on as they're touring some of the museums he stopped and he looked at her up and down and allegedly said wow, you're in such great shape and then called her beautiful. some people were saying this was kind of a cringe worthy moment. are we make, too much of this because it's donald trump? >> you know, i i've been asked that question by a female anchor shawn for as a explain to explain weather we are or not i think is dubious. i think in fairness because donald trump has had controversy to put it mildly about his tendency -- his wave speaking about women that certainly many women and men will -- will view these comments against that backdrop and i think that's why there's a strong reaction. >> not that you asked but my take away was how many times did we look at michelle obama and say look at those arms and look how toned she was. >> and as woman i'm going say it's slightly different when you grab my hand and you look me up and down. >> that's true, that's true. >> and say myou

if you can just say high, you look beautiful and i would be like great, thanks. not the whole looking up and down. >> nyle, you look dashing in that tie. >> i think that's my tie. i think trump said something about she's in great shape, the body which is -- >> right. >> like i said nice tie. >> shawn that's a beautiful dress but we're not going to go any further than that. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it nyle. we're good there. you can say that but just don't look me up and down and then say it. thank you very much. nyle standish always good to have you on the show. >> i like when we get that last question that's off the beaten path for nyle. senate republicans releasing their latest version of their healthcare measure. >> let's gripping in billy win to break down some of these changes. gentlemen thanks for joining us tonight. >> pleasure. thank you. >> let me first start with you billy and let me ask you from what we've heard so far you know what's your immediate take away from some of the changes this proposed change

earlier today. >> i think the important thing to know is that there really aren't that many dramatic changes that have been made to the underlying bill that was so controversial to begin with. the biggest change is probably the inclusion or at least the tentative inclusion of the so-called cruz amendment which would allow health plans to sell products to consumers that do not include the protections that the affordable care act established such as essential health benefits and protections for people with preexisting conditions so i think that's going to raise a lot of concerns certainly among democrats and moderate republicans are going to have serious questions about that change. >> i want to be clear what the advantage to something like that. is it just catastrophic needs is that really what it would cover and nothing else than that. >> yeah, well, if you're young and you're healthy there are benefits. you'll be able to get a cheaper plan that probably will meet your needs but if you ever plan on getting over or developing a sickness or have an accident then the plan that you need which is going to be more comprehensive is going to be

what we'll see from the congressional budget office on monday is that in fact that policy will be destabilizing for markets in general and one important thing to know about the cruz amendment is that unlike the policy in the house that was controversial, this is not a waiver policy where states can choose to adopt it or not, this is nationwide so even states that that want to maintain some stability are going to have that overridden by this amendment if it stays in the bill. >> brent let me bring you in. what's your take on what we've seen today, this proposed amendment or the changes that we have seen that were presented today. >> well, the changes are minimal other than the cruz amendment which is devastating so that makes the bill even worse than it was. you can expect to see over 20 million americans losing insurance because of this legislation and worse, low income americans older americans and people who can least afford it and are ill are going to suffer the most and the only people that are going to be happy are the healthy and wealthy. >> you know as we sit at home as you look at

the senate gop is rushing to sort of get this finished, what sort of frustration are you hearing from people, the people that, you know, you represent, that you talk to, what are their frustrations about this whole process? >> well, they're very concerned that they could lose coverage and for good reason. latino population is amongst the most uninsured in the country even more so before the affordable care act passed. it's made a lot of progress and latinos benefited disproportionately from the affordable care act so our community is concerned that the gains they made in terms of healthcare coverage could be rolled back and particularly the folks benefiting from medicaid and the medicaid expansion. that's completely undone by this bill and a lot of states that participated in that expansion are going to be very sorry to see the loss of funding that came with that. this isn't a very good bill its going to result in a lot of -- lot less people being covered. it's not a good solution. what they want to see is congress to fix the parts of the affordable care act that need fixing to make sure it's a stable program that wil

they don't want to see it unravel like this. >> billy we only have a few seconds left but i wanted to ask on the way out what are the chances as you look at this legislation, does this address some of the concerns of those people who are on the fence and i know ted cruz is one of the ones that came out after the second draft of this bill, does this have a realistic chance of passing. >> i think that ted cruz is one of the happy he were republican senators today but the problem is that the happier he gets i think the more upset some of those who would prefer a more moderate outcome are going to be. i had the pleasure of being with a young man jude smith today, a five and a half year old boy with multiple chronic conditions he's on medicaid and i think a lot of those moderate senators states like nevada ohio west virginia those trillions of dollars of medicaid cuts are going to be very hard to remedy their concerns about that at least we all hope so and their constituents do. >> billy win, brent wilks thanks for coming in today. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. >> is it important to move quickly and repeal and replace the affordable care act or

already know the senate has decided they're not going on recess. the house is still on the fence. doesn't appear they'll take the same pace. they're going to take their recess. >> we brought in ronica cleary, we sent her out today to get the pulse of the people and find out what everyday folks think about this whole thing. i hear from people who say they're fed up because congress is not doing its job and they want everybody to work together. >> reporter: that's right, and you know, when the decision to delay the recess for 10 days occurred, you know, some people weighed in on social media much social and said whatare they going to 0 days that they have been able to do yet. there's a ton of frustration no matter where you fall on this line of speed up the process get it done or slow down make sure we do this in the best possible way so take a listen to what people had to say out on the streets of d.c. >> well, i think we've been slowing down long enough its time to just take it and repeal it and let's move on to something that benefits

[laughter] >> well, i would say slow down and take their time. >> i think you slow down, take your time. that's something that's a little bit too big to just push through. >> reporter:. >> i think they should slow down, take their time so they can make, you know, an informed decision, do some research on it and make the right decision. >> reporter: now we took to twitter as well. it's interesting some people weighed in on this and said that this twitter poll was missing some options but really what i was focusing on here is just if the repeal and replace is inevitable. if it's going to happen, do you think asap, it's been seven years already, 41 percent of you said yes. 59 percent of you said take your time, it's complex. of course there are those of you out there who say keep as it is or just improve the affordable care act as it is, go to a single payer system. there are so many options out there certainly complicating this issue but it's always great to hear from you, a lot of you weighing in already on th

that #5at630. >> name that we are quite familiar with around here corey stewart is running for the u.s. senate. he lost a tight gop primary race for governor in june. the former virginia chairman for the trump campaign says he represents what he describes as a trump inspired republican. >> people are looking for a fighter. they want an aggressive republican who is going to run a vicious ruthless race to retake the governorship and that's what they want for the united states senate as well. >> all right. so, of course he has to go through a primary first and he's the first big name to announce but there's a lot of speculation names like laura ingram the talk show host may decide to run there's a whole slew of people. of course the primary isn't until next year and the winner of the primary would face tim kaine. >> i tell you what's been interesting though, just the fiery nature of what he said and how we've seen that come out since donald trump has been in officers. >> yup. >> let's switch over t

congressman cindy hoyer and anthony brown want the state to get their money back after a failed bid for the new fbi headquarters. earlier this week the trump administration announced plans to move the agency's headquarters to a different location. won't happen. d.c. maryland and virginia all work for years to lure the fbi to a new place. the decision to scrap the move comes in part because congress was not going to provide the funding for the project. congressman hoyer and brown say maryland is owed $200 million that it spent on surveys. >> a california congressman joins the speculation that there's a move to impeach the president. more when 5 at 6:30 comes right back. >> ♪ >> ♪♪

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introduced legislation to impeach president trump. fox5's tom fitzgerald is here to weigh in on this. >> reporter: whether there's business what us sis or not this article has been introduced. even the author of it says look, this doesn't mean donald trump is getting kicked out of office or getting impeached now. he describes this as more of a shot across the bow. this is brad sherman. he's a democratic congressman from california. you probably recognize him if you spent any time on c-span watching hearings over the years. what he says is this. he says after he watched jim comey's testimony before the senate intelligence committee he came to the conclusion that he believes that what comey testified to in sherman's eyes fits into the definition of high crimes and misdemeanors, so congressman sherman has now introduced this article of impeachment against president trump for

obstruction of justice. so, yeah, we went to go see the congressman today to talk about this. why not many democrats have joined on board with him, why his own party seems to be reluctant to -- to use what one of them calls the i word and we also asked him this. congressman, there is already a special counsel out there by the name of robert muller. that special counsel, according to jim comey is doing an investigation of obstruction of justice. why bring this now? why are you bringing an article of impeachment? robert mueller hasn't even reported his postage stamp yet. this was his answer to the question. shouldn't you let mr. muller finish his work before you go and file this impeachment. >> obviously we need to let mueller, you know, finish his work

that work may indeed show additional high crimes and misdemeanors or additional support in evidence for the two that i've identified to you but we already have credible sworn under oath testimony from james comey who is not some hillary clinton, bernie sanders wild eyed democrat. this is a man who wanted to be part of the trump administration. >> reporter: okay. so reality check here. this article of impeachment, the way this congress is constituted with republicans in charge is not going anywhere folks. the republicans are not going to move in on this at least while they're in charge. sherman himself told us jim and shawn this is an effort for him to move the ball but to be clear this ball is not going anywhere as long as the gop is in charge right now and this may be a classic case of cart going

>> that's exactly what it sounds like fitz. i don't hear a whole lot of talk from the rest of the democratic caucus, so keel see what happens from here. >> reporter: and in fact, the chairman of the democratic caucus today was asked about this. he would not even say the word impeachment. >> yeah. >> reporter: he wouldn't utter the word impeachment. he keeps calling it the "i" word. they took a beating. there may have been too much russia talk and not enough talk about things like healthcare and things like taxes so while they were pursuing this aggressively on the trump campaign russia investigation they are also aware of maybe overplaying their hand at this point. >> all right. >> fitz you're looking mighty spiffy out there. you look like you're reporting from nantucket. >> reporter: it's seersucker thursday on the hill. >> there you go. >> reporter: try to go traditional. >> thank you fitz. all right, well, there is another debate happening on the hill over the longstand

house dress code in fact. today house speaker paul ryan said he will work with the house sergeant at arms to update and modernize the dress code for a special hallway in the house. this comes a day after republican lawmaker martha mcsally went on a rant. several journalists were barred from the hallway because of sleeveless dresses and open toed shoes. >> this is nothing new and certainly not something that i devised. at the same time it doesn't mean then torment couldn't stand to be a bit modernized. that is why we'll be working with the sergeant of arms to ensure the enforcement of appropriate business attire is updated. decorum is important especially for this institution. and a dress code in the chamber in the lobby makes sense. >> for the record jim and i would both be in violation of the dress code. >> i think welder, yeah. >> under the current rules women must have a sleeved dress

closed toed shoes. men are required to wear a jacket anti an suit jacket. >> there you have it. >> we are in violation. >> we are. >> here's a question. how well do you know the 50 states. >> i'd like to think i know them quite well. >> i think you do but could you draw them? go ahead. we're going to put it to the test. jim, can you draw maryland. >> oh, no, that's a tough one. that's a can you have one and i live there. >> all right. we're going to talk about that coming up next. stick around. i'm going to work on it right now. >> do it. >> ♪

>> so how well can you draw the 50 states from memory? >> that's right. "time" magazine did a little unscientific story and found could was the easiest state to draw. >> yes, it is. >> most people were graded with an a or even an a plus. are you going to try that? hawaii by the way the most difficult state to draw. people had difficulty also with maryland. let's see if we can get to maryland. >> there it is. >> okay. >> it hugs the cap of virginia and wraps around the toe of the chesapeake bay.

know, very sweet. they also suggest -- they also struggled with michigan which most of us see as a mitten shaped state. you see that. >> yeah. >> are we supposed to draw these right thousand. now. >> you try for maryland jim. >> from memory. if we go -- so, there's that. and then t-, i'm trying to do it from memory there. >> you tried to look to see if it was on his driver's license. he tried to cheat. >> all right. >> look. how about an easy one. california. what does that look like even. >> stop it. >> all right so that's easy. california is almost like a -- >> how about -- >> i'll give you one. >> i'll try one. >> wisconsin. >> no clue. i'm not even going dry tri. >> indiana. >> i can do indiana. >> i know you can do indiana. >> by the way here's colorado. boom. done. a plus. back after this. >> wait, no.

>> shawn decided to cheat. and she says i'm

the states at once. >> it's the united states here and canada. >> i feel like burt convy on win lose or draw. dom dell luis is our guest tonight.

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announcer: today on "tmz" -- harvey: we got floyd mayweather ot. he does not seem to have a problem with conor mcgregor ptelling him to dance, boy. >> i don't worry about that. you know, it's about going out there and doing my job. >> floyd can't really get on conor because floyd's done these same type of things. >> does this affect the way you feel about conor mcgregor? >> not really. harvey: how do you feel about what shia labeouf said? >> deplorable. harvey: what was your opinion about julianne hough when she went -- >> are you going through hall of fame of racism? do you remember ted danson? >> the espy awards were last night and michelle obama was there. >> a lot of people were making a big deal out of the shoes she was wearing. they were a bondage type heel. >> she wasn't bondage shoes. there's just one strap. >> she's not carrying a ball gag with her. [laughter] >> jennifer garner, she was out with chelsea handler at giorgio baldi. harvey: boy she and ben lived in that area and that's the go-to restaurant.