>> happy tuesday, everybody. ending daca. today the white house rescinded the obama era program that protected some un documented immigrants who came to the us as children from deportation. as you can see on the run down of the side of your screen this is what we're talk ing about tonight at 6:30. jeff sessions was the one to make the big announcement today, inside of ending daca, they decidedded to give the daca a six-month dislai. just a few moments ago this is what the president had to say. i have a great love for them. they're really young adults. i have a love for

hopefully now congress will be able to help them and do it properly and i can tell you you in speaking to members of congress they want to be able to do something and do it right and really we have no choice, we have to be able to do something and i think it's going to work out very well and long term it's going to be the right solution. >> right now let's bring in jessie jane duff senior fellow from policy research. and brent will, of the latin american citizens. no big surprise here we had all indications over the the weekend this was coming but i get the sense of where you're coming from here. we're certainly disappointed in the president's decision. we think he had the authority to continue the daca program, certainly had a lot of time before the states would riff been able to challenge that decision and unfortunately he said he had a lot of heart and he didn't show it today. he ended the program that's going to turn 800,000 hard working young immigrants out on the streets without the oprt

taking away their work permits and we just think that's bad policy to revert somebody's un documented status. jessie let me get your take on this. do you agree with what the white house did. >> absolutely i agree and what was just said is false. everybody who is already under the daca program will be allow and anybody can renew the tat us for up two years. what we're asking the congress to do to do its job and do immigration re form. i think everybody even on both sides of the aisle should be celebrating this because an executive order isn't how we make laws in this country . congress will make this law. if all of these young and men are so worthy of citizen ship they will find a way to accommodate. that we're not a kingdom. a president can't go in and white wash this and say you're all here. a lot of controversy over the fact that president obama signed that executive order. he said at the time he saw it was tell mri he was

something four years ago. congress has been kick the can down the road when it comes to immigration reform. in six months is there any hope that they're going going to get together and come up with something that is. lindsay gram has something up there much we're going to make something that is constitutional accurate and fair. now, that doesn't mean that everybody why isinging to be blackette approved but that's what daca was doing. north korea you we have to look at each case individually. they're going to have to set up laws that are fair to these people. i think it's miss taiment and dishonest to say that awful these young people are going to be suddenly removed from their work status. if somebody teld me i had six months left in my job, i would not say oh, that's being a nice person. >> the fact is these people have already gone through background quheks. this hef ' already been n processed. they have jobs right you now. there's no reason t

president trump wants congress to pass the dream act, great. thanks for helping. come to congress together. let's get this passed but you you don't have to threaten the kids. >> he threatened no one. we know -- let me yum p in for just one second. president obama signed the executive order. he also had a statement today that he release as a ultimate are of the trump administration rescind ing it. this is part of what his statement said. this is about young people who grew up in america. young adults who are starting their careers. these dreams ers are americans in their hearts and minds in every single way, but one, on paper. should this make a difference ending this program? why do it today? >> well, because first of all, it is unconstitutional to have the presidency impacting a lot. it doesn't matter if the states were going to win this or not win this it was unconscious substitution alan all the constitutional lawyers out there know that. it is a false

they're all being deported. that's a lie. all of them will have up to two years. i assure everyone out there in the american public we have to put americans first because we do have laws this country. we have 800,000 people here getting work permits, meanwhile we have 5 million americans in the same age bracket that are unemployed so let's be fair to the american citizens as wevment many of these dreamers are getting student loans and they're getting over $6 million benefits in student loans. what about that for americans in i think congress has treat to american citizens as equally fairly because we're americans, too. let me jump in for a equaled s. i guess the other side can argue and say they're not receiving any federal benefits. they still pay taxes just like everybody else. >> let's make them legal. then let's make them legal. that's why we're going on congress. >> it's important to point out they're contributing 466 billion-dollar to our

economy over the next ten years we're going to wipe that away. by the way, i'm not lying on march 6 if your daca permit expires on march 6 of next year you'll be removed fl daca and be out of work. this two-year period might get it, but for the vast majority of folks they'll be out in six months. the six months is giving congress an opportunity to write a law. you're assuming everybody kiss going to get booted out of this country. we will certainly see what congress does if they do something, if they can, you mentioned that lindsay gram has the billion there and we know john mccain has said things in the past and marco rubio. we'll see what happens. thank you both, very highly charged topic and you can imagine and it will not be the last time we talk about it. congress is back in session today after a five-week summer recess and one of the top priorities.s that he ' not the only item on the agenda.

trump administration wants an increase in the nation's borrowing authority. and the president's actions on immigrations could also end up being a major factor. democratic strategist emily swis are here to help us break this all down. let's justin the conversation a little bit from what we heard the first two. certainly daca is going to be something that congress will be discussing. today we heard that lindsay gram came out with a bipartisan push. before i get your response to that, let's list tone what they had. >> the first and direct conversation that i had with president trump was the day of his inauguration and i tarkd him about the dreamers anda. he looked me in the eye and said don't worry about those kids we're going to he take care of the people on the republican side of the aisle. we want to find a fair solution because you have done nothing

realistically, do you think what we've seen so far from this congress do you think realistically in six months we'll have some are the some of i am graition reform that will affect these 800,000 are so. they've been barely able to pass anything at all. republicans are going to have a hard time increasing the debt ceiling and increasing a short-term budget that's why they're amuch that ting harvey relieve through it and move those through. i am slightly optimistic that they'll be able to come through with a simple fix to the repeal of the daca program. there are a loft republicans coming out saying, look, this is just in you humane . this is the only country they know. let's just push this through and have a separate discussion about large scale reformat later date. i am optimistic that there are a lot of vehicles they could attach this to. there are a lot of things come through that they

with healthcare and the john mccains and sort of the wild card. how tough would it be to get the gop on the same page with something like i am immigration row form. president trump has really underestimated the legislative process, how important it is and how detailed it is. i think that president trump in 2007 who actually went all in on the immigration process and he committed re sources from homeland security , from the congress department, from the white house and was leading the charge and that's the kind of profit. for president trump just to say hey, you have six months to do this and get it done i think that makes it a little bit more difficult especially with all the other things that are on the plate. when i heard sarah hug bisanders say six months, that's a long time. she has not spent a long time in washington. they can't get everything done. >> she hasn't experienced her own administration in washington >> let's talk about that, do you think with the like lie

likelihood. we're going to see daca, the debt ceiling, the budget. >> here's what i am optimistic for whatever the vehicle is for us seeing whether i is permanency or temporary work status for daca recipients is because the entire conversation forth republican party this summer has been trying to distance themselves from the white national list base that trump was placating to. the pardoning of joe apry oh. they disagree with the process but not the content of daca to really stand up and say we support the dreamers we'll pass something clean. what do you think the most significant piece of legislation that the gop can pass, that they can get through and say major achievement right here. i think tax reform is probably the biggest thing they can do that taxes affect everything. i think everybody was looking for trument donald

trump. he was about jobs and bringing the economy back and bringing things home. for his administration that would be the biggest thipg. i think for i am immigration and passing the dream act is a incorporate s l billion. that will be very difficult. the border security wall is going to be a big challenge. a lot of people are going to want reform overall. you are potentially going to look at another extension. he's already done that on haitian refugees. there have been other temporary solutions here where he's extended things. i wouldn't be surprised if that happened again. there's so much to talk about. our producer just gave us the wrap. maybe you guys can come back tomorrow and we can continue the discussion tomorrow. >> james norton and emily tish sussman. a lot of rain coming down sue, how long is this sticking around for tonight snnches i was wonder if you could hear it over there. we've got about another hour and a half to hours to get this line through. we don't he

severe thunderstorm warnings but we sure do have some heavy rain pushing its way closer to the beltway and we are still under a severe thunderstorm watch for northern counties until 9:00. a closer look you can see a lot of lightening, but at least these are moving. earlier they had a history of taking down some tree s and limbs, but it's mostly just a good batch of heavy rain that's pushing on through ahead of a game changing cool front is that trying to push through the area right now. it's dropping the temperatures behind this front by ten, 15, even 20 greece . we were 87 today. we'll be closer to 72-degrees tomorrow and we continue to track the latest on category five hurricane irma at 5:00 still had winds of 185. tropical storm jose trailing just behind it as well. we hope that one will make a turn. it looks bad for the islands for the next 24 hours. hopefully this \rain\reign\ will be out of here soon. >> the north korea and, all

table. the united states plan to rel some the nuclear standup when 5@6:30 comes back after this.

welcome back at five at of:30. in an effort to resolve a nuclear stand off the you s is pushing for some tougher sanctions on korea. tom fitzgerald is live on this one. >>reporter: good evening. >> gotcha in the rain this evening. >>reporter: that seems to be happening a lot, every day right at six:40. boom. but the issue at hand, north korea and it's a deadly serious one because what happened last week and alarmed a the look of people not only here in the united states but around the world. the situation is this and a lot of itself he ' ' focus some of it was up in new york city at the you you united facials. the secretary general of the united

geu tier yeah has made it plain from his viewpoint that he needs uniformity on this issue. he needs russia, china, the united states, frans, grait britain all on the same page and unfortunately that is not what is going on right now. geu tear a says he needs ray greement from all of these parts especially from the un security council to come forward with some sort of plan. now, china and russia did come forward with what they hope will be some framework of what could be a resolution and it is this. they want an agreement, chien and a russia that will in essence provide a trade. the united states and south korea a would stop these military exercises that they have been doing over the last couple of weeks in exchange, in russia and china's viewpoint that north korea would then give up somehow their nuclear program which they obviously been working on very hard lately. that appears to be right now a nonstarter from the united states standpoint. now, the russia

today sir gay, he said directly to rex tillerson. the secretary of state of the us that the united states needs to not do anything emotional in roordz to what has been going on. there was some good news today. earlier this morning the south korean news was reported that they've moving to a launch pad in another missile launch. fortunately that did not happen there was no launch today, at least not so far. so the concern that started this day has not been realized, but know this, a lot of the solution, if there is a solution to this, is going to be what's going on in new york city at the un today. interestingly enough there was some action the white house today. president trump did agree to allow both japan and south korea to purchase more military

framework that we just laid out from what russia and from what china want to see allowing japan and south korea to purchase more military equipment is a big step away from what russia and china are proposing that the united states stop military exercises with south korea. so the good news today, no icbm launch so far, but we are still a long way s away from any diplomatic solution to what we've been see ing over the last couple of days from north korea. tomorrow and going into the weekend that may be a different story. >> after what we saw sunday i guess we'll take it. >> you you got that right. >> fitsz, stay dry out there. >> he did a pretty good job at it. >> honors the heros. how virginia are thanking the us capital police officers when a gunman opened fire at a congressional base brandywine ball practice in alexandria. we'll be right

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welcome back. itself he's hard to believe it seems like so long ago, but it was in june when a gunman opened fire on a congressional baseball practice in alexandria. they are thank ing the us capital police officers for being heros that day. ronica cleary is live in alexandria where a special presentation got underway just a short time ago. hey, jim and sean. when you talk about how long ago that was or how it feels i think that anybody who works in news in this town, if you work in law enforcement in this town or if you you work on the hill in this town you you remember where you were that morning in june when you you heard the news of that shock and horrifying hooting at that congressional baseball game. and today those officers who responded putting their lives on the line they are being honored the resolution was spearheaded by virginia senators time cane and mark warner. though i'll tell you for all of the devisive in on the hill it was

unanimously by senators to honor and recollect myself those officers from capital police and alexandria police. now, i spoke with chief brown of the alexandria police department really about what this honor means to him, what it means to the officers of his who really put their lives on the line on that day back in june. take a listen. in this particular case we have an opportunity to recognize what i think officers do or are willing to do on a day in and day out basis. law enforcement across this country is there to protect the public. it's in the a commitment of the head, it's a commitment of the heart and these officers display ed that on simpson field on june 14 and we're very proud of them. >> i really like what he said there about a commitment of the heart. i think if they really thought about sometimes what they are doing and the harm they're putting themselves in with their minds they might not be willing to take that challenge. they're doing it because it's what they believe

five at six. thirty we took an opportunity to highlight what these guys have done. >> absolutely. they're heros and i'm so glad that they're continuing to be recognized for what they did that day. now that sean spicer is officially out of the white house whee have an idea what he might be doing next. and it's not dancing with the stars. we'll tell you what he's going to be doing when we return.

it was earlier in the summer when sean spicer said i'm done, i'm leaving. but he still worked at the white house until last week and then he finally said goodbye. that was the end of it. >> now we know what he he might be doing next. >> he's going to be on the paid speaking circuit which is typical for a lot of politicos when they leave the white house or whatever they're doing. he signed with a group called worldwide speaker group. audiences from around the world will been spite from

candor that sean spicer brought to the briefing room. not exactly how much he'll be paid for each speech. >> a lot. politico reports his first speech will be next week in new york city. will he bring the same it with and if so will we see me melissa mccarthy as she played him on snl. if you pay money for sean spicer and you are expecting the melissa mccarthy sean spicer you're going to be disappointed. >> a little bit. >> that was sort of his thing. >> think back to and 21 the first press conference where he said we were all lying about the size of the inauguration and that the tone was set. former trump supporter, milwaukee sheriff david clark also taking a new job this one with the pro trump super pack. a senior advisor and

devoted to he electing candidates who support the trump administration. back in june he claimed he rescinded a job with the home land department of security he resigned from his job with the milwaukee herrive. very controversial figure. he was a democrat democratic and he still is a democratic, elected as such and then moved to the right, received a huge ground swell by doing that. everybody thought what was going to laura evans and go to the white house i know there is a the lieutenant of speculation that maybe something happened. we never learned anything. certainly a lieutenant to talk about tonight . what do you have coming up on the final five. the final five at 1678. thirty niel stand is going to join me tonight. he's there at the white house, he give us the un varn issued, unbiased view of the daca. we had the discussion tonight but we'll have it tonight as well. the news of the day

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